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Sean March 3rd 06 08:23 PM

Planting tips?
 

"Altum" wrote in message
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Sean wrote:

The type of peat I am talking about won't leech anything or color the
water at all. It is filtered and cleaned and is mostly used as an anchor
for the plants. The nutrients from the plant gravel gets trapped within
it and the roots grow at a maddening rate. Peet also has that great way
of filtering and processing toxins from the water which cuts down on the
water changes and adds some diversity to a tank that most lack. A decent
anchor for plants ;)


Where do you get it? I've often used AP Plant Plugs - they're fertilized
rockwool. Non-leaching peat sounds even better.



A local pet shop near where I live Pet City...I doubt you'll find it easily
as it isn't always available to them even. I wouldn't even be able to tell
you the name of it since I first planted my tank last April. Sorry.




Sean



Richard Sexton March 3rd 06 09:30 PM

Planting tips?
 
What I do is judt drop them into a tank and see how I like it.
ThenI may move them around a bit. Igenerally don't und plants
from the "lead" (it's not lead) weights as the tissue damage
sets them back a bit, but when they grow to the waters surface
and thena bit more, I trim them 1/3 from the top then plant them
were I've finally decided I want them.

I think ammano does a frigging CAD drawing acurate to 1mm of where
he plants each stem, but, well, ya know, we don't hang much.

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Koi-Lo March 3rd 06 10:52 PM

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"FishNoob" wrote in message
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Whee, so my plants have arrived. Now what do I do? LOL

They're all labelled with what they are and whether they're
foreground etc. Do I just take each bunch apart and shove the roots
under the gravel? Do I need to use weights (some lead weights came
with the plants)? Any other tips?

========================
I remove the weights and spread the bundles apart. I plant no more than 3
stems in each group as some plants branch nicely once rooted in. I got 4
nice clumps from one pot of giant hairgrass. Also, you want the bottoms to
get as much light as possible. I use small rocks and pebbles over the
gravel to help hold them down until rooted. I try to get those needing more
light under the center of the tubes and those needling less more towards the
ends.

Someone recommended Flourish Excel and I've been using it about a week now
along with *more* Flourish Plant Supplement and Flourish Iron Supplement.
The plants have turned a nice dark green. I'm hoping they outpace the black
algae badly infesting a 55 and a 10g tank.
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Altum March 4th 06 01:15 AM

Planting tips?
 
Richard Sexton wrote:
I think ammano does a frigging CAD drawing acurate to 1mm of where
he plants each stem, but, well, ya know, we don't hang much.


Dangit, warn me to put my coffee down before you do that! I love the
Amano "I planted 75 single stems of Rotala behind this rock." Did he
count???

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FishNoob March 4th 06 09:19 AM

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In article ,
says...
It's for raising the pH?


Yes, that's right.

It sounds like crushed limestone or something
similar. It will certainly raise your pH by buffering up your carbonate
hardness.

You should get yourself a KH test kit so you can monitor how much this
"LITH" is buffering up your water. For a planted tank you probably don't
want your KH to get much higher than 4 degrees or so. If you don't monitor
it the limestone will continue to leech into your water regardless of how
hard you want your water to be.


I'll look for a kit. How long is it likely to take for the limestone
to make a difference?

WRT it keeping leaching into the water - doesn't it need to continue
to do that to compensate for the softer water introduced at water
changes?

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Mr. Gardener March 4th 06 11:46 AM

Planting tips?
 
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 01:15:23 GMT, Altum wrote:

Richard Sexton wrote:
I think ammano does a frigging CAD drawing acurate to 1mm of where
he plants each stem, but, well, ya know, we don't hang much.


Dangit, warn me to put my coffee down before you do that! I love the
Amano "I planted 75 single stems of Rotala behind this rock." Did he
count???


The guy misses nothing. I about blew my coffee when I recently saw a
photo of one of his tanks with a few fish swimming by and the caption
read "Choreographed by Amano."

-- Mister Gardener

dc March 4th 06 01:44 PM

Planting tips?
 
FishNoob wrote in
:

I'll look for a kit. How long is it likely to take for the limestone
to make a difference?


It depends on the grade of the limestone and I imagine on the softness of
your water too.

WRT it keeping leaching into the water - doesn't it need to continue
to do that to compensate for the softer water introduced at water
changes?


More or less. It depends on how fast it is going to buffer up your water.
A KH test kit will let you keep track of that. You can always put it back
into your system after a water change. If you are going to be doing huge
water changes regularly, than it may be best to just leave it in all the
time. Test and make a judgement for yourself. :)


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