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Andrew Burgess April 5th 06 04:40 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
"JB" writes:

I visited a couple of web sites pricing food for this season (Aqua Mart for
Hakari Staple & Western Pond for Sho Koi) and noticed a jump in prices.
Between the two, Western Pond was offering 10 lbs of Sho Koi for $56.98,
including shipping costs. This seems about $7.00 higher than last year.


What are you feeding? And, where are you buying it?


I order Rangen 25 lb bags direct from the factory.
The last number I used was 208 543 6421
If I recall correctly, it was about $30 plus $10 shipping.

I still want to try catfish or trout chow someday. Does anyone know if
one floats better than the other? I would guess that catfish sinks
and trout floats...



Koi-Lo April 5th 06 05:48 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 

"Andrew Burgess" wrote in message
...
I still want to try catfish or trout chow someday. Does anyone know if
one floats better than the other? I would guess that catfish sinks
and trout floats...

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BOTH of them float.
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Gareee© April 5th 06 06:19 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
...

BOTH of them float.


For a while at least... LOL!

"They all float.. they all float down here......"

....Pennywise the Clown....

;)


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[email protected] April 5th 06 08:06 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
the problem with corn based foods is the same problem found with that dog food that
was killing dogs earlier this year... contamination with fungus that causes toxins.
food for trout and catfish is formulated to first be as cheap as possible and then
put weight on the fish as fast as possible so they can be harvested as fast as
possible. this food is not formulated for the long term health of pet fish. corn is
implicated in liver disease in fish, perhaps rancidity and fungal toxins are the
underlying cause. a good rule of thumb is feed what the breeders feed.
Ingrid

Andrew Burgess wrote:

"JB" writes:

I visited a couple of web sites pricing food for this season (Aqua Mart for
Hakari Staple & Western Pond for Sho Koi) and noticed a jump in prices.
Between the two, Western Pond was offering 10 lbs of Sho Koi for $56.98,
including shipping costs. This seems about $7.00 higher than last year.


What are you feeding? And, where are you buying it?


I order Rangen 25 lb bags direct from the factory.
The last number I used was 208 543 6421
If I recall correctly, it was about $30 plus $10 shipping.

I still want to try catfish or trout chow someday. Does anyone know if
one floats better than the other? I would guess that catfish sinks
and trout floats...




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Koi-Lo April 5th 06 08:13 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 

"Gareee©" wrote in message
...
"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
...

BOTH of them float.


For a while at least... LOL!

"They all float.. they all float down here......"

...Pennywise the Clown....

;)

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Hey, I read that book. :-)
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Aquariums since 1952
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Altum April 5th 06 08:58 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food ThisSeason?
 
wrote:
Rangen.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U10B215EC
look for fish food with water type proteins, like krill or fish meal in the first
couple ingredients. and take a good sniff... if it smells rancid for God's sake dont
feed it to the fish. High quality food should be frozen and only take out what is
needed for the week. Ingrid


I have a small pond with three comets, a ryukin, and some white clouds.
There's no way I could use up 25 lb. of Rangen food! I'm using Tetra
Color flakes at the moment (first ingredient is fish meal), bought fresh
in small batches. I've always gotten good results with a combination of
Tetra foods and live foods for tropicals, but is there a better mass
market food for goldfish?

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Roy April 6th 06 12:05 AM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
Yet another uneducated unresearched guess, made by someone who thinks
they know it all...........Catfish and trout chow can be had in
sinking or floating types.........The feed mill here as well as the
local farm and feed supply stores sell it in sinking and floating
types.......
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[email protected] April 6th 06 12:22 AM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
stick with what you got. altho........ GF LOVE brine shrimp and especially
daphnia. Ingrid

Altum wrote:

wrote:
Rangen. http://makeashorterlink.com/?U10B215EC
look for fish food with water type proteins, like krill or fish meal in the first
couple ingredients. and take a good sniff... if it smells rancid for God's sake dont
feed it to the fish. High quality food should be frozen and only take out what is
needed for the week. Ingrid


I have a small pond with three comets, a ryukin, and some white clouds.
There's no way I could use up 25 lb. of Rangen food! I'm using Tetra
Color flakes at the moment (first ingredient is fish meal), bought fresh
in small batches. I've always gotten good results with a combination of
Tetra foods and live foods for tropicals, but is there a better mass
market food for goldfish?




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http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/
sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website.
I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan

Koi-Lo April 6th 06 12:24 AM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 

wrote in message
...
the problem with corn based foods is the same problem found with that dog
food that
was killing dogs earlier this year... contamination with fungus that
causes toxins.
food for trout and catfish is formulated to first be as cheap as possible
and then
put weight on the fish as fast as possible so they can be harvested as
fast as
possible. this food is not formulated for the long term health of pet
fish. corn is
implicated in liver disease in fish, perhaps rancidity and fungal toxins
are the
underlying cause. a good rule of thumb is feed what the breeders feed.
Ingrid

==============
Any food can *go rancid* if it's not kept cool and dry, not just catfish and
trout chow. My koi and goldfish have been on these feeds at least 7 years
and breed like crazy. All are healthy and active with excellent color. No
$8 to $10 a lb food fed or needed.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
rec.pond's FAQ are at: http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o





~ janj April 6th 06 12:43 AM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
wrote in message
the problem with corn based foods is the same problem found with that dog
food that was killing dogs earlier this year... contamination with fungus that
causes toxins. food for trout and catfish is formulated to first be as cheap as possible
and then put weight on the fish as fast as possible so they can be harvested as
fast as possible. this food is not formulated for the long term health of pet
fish. corn is implicated in liver disease in fish, perhaps rancidity and fungal toxins
are the underlying cause. a good rule of thumb is feed what the breeders feed.
Ingrid

==============
Any food can *go rancid* if it's not kept cool and dry, not just catfish and
trout chow. My koi and goldfish have been on these feeds at least 7 years
and breed like crazy. All are healthy and active with excellent color. No
$8 to $10 a lb food fed or needed.


That's true, rancidity, and that's great, if those foods work for you and
you're happy with them. If I had as many fish as say Roy or Carol feeds,
I'd be looking at Rangen, a koi food that is still fairly reasonable
priced, jmo.

As tis, many of us, similar to Altuma, have fewer fish, so we don't need to
buy in bulk, and it would/could be hazardous to our fishes health if we did
(rancidity).

Ingrid did mention something about keep foods frozen, and that's one of the
reasons I like ShoKoi, it is freezable. Some brands mention not to freeze,
it was explained to me something about the oils separating??? I'm not quite
sure, so read the label. And just an aside, if you go to a backyard fish
store and they try to sell you X-koi food in an old ice cream container,
take a pass on it. ;o) ~ jan

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