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Mellie101 April 25th 06 02:01 PM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 
Hi, i had this with one of my goldfish. I was using 'quick cure' at
the time for a fungal infections and then gave her some antibiotic
food. It was a long process but did work in eventually. Probably not
much help but maybe an alternative if you can't get anything else. I
assume that you can get antibiotic food in AU? The fish hated it but
the problem did stop. Haven't seen anything resembling it for at least
5-6 weeks now.

I'm a newbie and so not experienced like the other 'pro's' here.
It worked for me
Mellie


Koi-Lo April 25th 06 03:15 PM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 
Moments before spontaneously combusting Sunny at
was heard opining:

"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
...
snip
Here if you want an antibiotic from a vet they want you to bring the
fish or pet in so they can charge you $40+ just to look at it.


Went to our local pet shop vet here in Aus, explained what was wrong
with my Betta.
She gave me two antibiotic tablets with instructions - aud$ 5.00 :-)

========================
What a DEAL!!! Too many of our vets here are $$$$$ minded knowing
desperate people will pay the price. Speaking of vets - it cost us over
$300 the last time we took our 3 dogs in for their shots, and unwanted,
unneeded exam at $40 each, and heart-worm medication. Then we had to
replenish the HW meds every few months. Soon the cost of keeping dogs and
cats will be out to the price range of the poor and elderly.
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o





Frank April 25th 06 03:33 PM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 
Beano wrote,
well if that fails, does Protozin do the job against hexamita?


No - Metronidazole is the drug of choice for the disease... Well, if
you can't find it at the petstore, you can always use Fenbenzadole. It
is a dewormer for livestock (sheep and cattle). You can buy it in
livestock or feed stores. An overdose can kill livestock, so watch what
your doing with it. Treatment and dose = 1/4 teaspoon per 20 gals.
Treat tank day 1, day 2 do a 50% water change, day 3 do another 50%
water change and retreat the tank. Repeat for 2 to 3 weeks. May be a
little hard to mix in the tank - pre-mix it in a jar so you can shake
real good, then pour into your tank. You do know, you will have to
treat *both* fish, don't you. Otherwise they will just reinfect each
other............ Frank


Frank April 25th 06 03:44 PM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 
Beano wrote,
but I honestly didn't think vets looked at fish...


There is one vet in the area that make house calls and will look at
fish - high dollar treatments. I used to put a few shoes on horses and
got to know a couple of vets - they eather call me or give out my phone
# when it comes to treating fish - most vets don't treat fish!
............. Frank


Beano April 26th 06 12:56 AM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 
haha I just phoned one and they said "ummm, yeah we dont' really deal
with fish!" HA! If only it was like UK or USA here, where you can buy
things over the counter for your fish - it's not like the antibiotics
for fish would be cheaper, in fact I think they would cost more than
they would for humans... but the potential for abuse is high, and there
has been a few discussions about that here lately.

Thanks for your help everyone! I'll keep looking...


Gill Passman April 26th 06 01:07 AM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 
Beano wrote:
haha I just phoned one and they said "ummm, yeah we dont' really deal
with fish!" HA! If only it was like UK or USA here, where you can buy
things over the counter for your fish - it's not like the antibiotics
for fish would be cheaper, in fact I think they would cost more than
they would for humans... but the potential for abuse is high, and there
has been a few discussions about that here lately.

Thanks for your help everyone! I'll keep looking...


Hmm...like yourself, we cannot get anti-biotics in the UK without a
prescription from a vet...and long may it remain IMO...the number of
bacteria now immune to antibiotics is proof of the fact that
indiscriminate use of these drugs is wrong.....they were a great gift to
all of us...misuse has lessened this gift....feeding anti-biotics on a
hunch not just for fish but people as well as led to bacteria immune to
this treatment....my GP will no longer prescribe these drugs on his
medical opinion without lab reports....it is wrong for fish keepers to
give these type of drugs without the correct medical diagnosis...and as
a palative or preventitive treatment is even worse...

JMO but strongly held...

Gill

Beano April 26th 06 04:53 AM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 
Gill Passman wrote:
Beano wrote:
haha I just phoned one and they said "ummm, yeah we dont' really deal
with fish!" HA! If only it was like UK or USA here, where you can buy
things over the counter for your fish - it's not like the antibiotics
for fish would be cheaper, in fact I think they would cost more than
they would for humans... but the potential for abuse is high, and there
has been a few discussions about that here lately.

Thanks for your help everyone! I'll keep looking...


Hmm...like yourself, we cannot get anti-biotics in the UK without a
prescription from a vet...and long may it remain IMO...the number of
bacteria now immune to antibiotics is proof of the fact that
indiscriminate use of these drugs is wrong.....they were a great gift to
all of us...misuse has lessened this gift....feeding anti-biotics on a
hunch not just for fish but people as well as led to bacteria immune to
this treatment....my GP will no longer prescribe these drugs on his
medical opinion without lab reports....it is wrong for fish keepers to
give these type of drugs without the correct medical diagnosis...and as
a palative or preventitive treatment is even worse...

JMO but strongly held...

Gill


Yeah preventative use is bad. I'm a medical student, and after years of
hearing people get told to take the whole course of antibiotics, I still
know doctors who don't take the whole course!! But the downside to
taking the whole course is if it's not working, then you create
selection pressure, which weeds out all the susceptible bacteria and
leaves the resistant one, then you end up with a colony of resistant
bacteria in you that you can't get rid of. That's why in hospitals,
you'll see them prescribe about 3 antibiotics at once (to cover what
they think the bug could be) and then when the find out, immediately
cease the ones that aren't required and continue with the one that is,
or change it completely without finishing a course. But still, it would
be interesting to find out the results of this practice after years,
whether it's better, worse, or no different. I suppose I should go and
find some articles in case this is on my exam...

Nikki April 26th 06 03:51 PM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 

"Beano" wrote in message
...
Gill Passman wrote:
Beano wrote:
haha I just phoned one and they said "ummm, yeah we dont' really deal
with fish!" HA! If only it was like UK or USA here, where you can buy
things over the counter for your fish - it's not like the antibiotics
for fish would be cheaper, in fact I think they would cost more than
they would for humans... but the potential for abuse is high, and there
has been a few discussions about that here lately.

Thanks for your help everyone! I'll keep looking...


Hmm...like yourself, we cannot get anti-biotics in the UK without a
prescription from a vet...and long may it remain IMO...the number of
bacteria now immune to antibiotics is proof of the fact that
indiscriminate use of these drugs is wrong.....they were a great gift to
all of us...misuse has lessened this gift....feeding anti-biotics on a
hunch not just for fish but people as well as led to bacteria immune to
this treatment....my GP will no longer prescribe these drugs on his
medical opinion without lab reports....it is wrong for fish keepers to
give these type of drugs without the correct medical diagnosis...and as a
palative or preventitive treatment is even worse...

JMO but strongly held...

Gill


Yeah preventative use is bad. I'm a medical student, and after years of
hearing people get told to take the whole course of antibiotics, I still
know doctors who don't take the whole course!! But the downside to taking
the whole course is if it's not working, then you create selection
pressure, which weeds out all the susceptible bacteria and leaves the
resistant one, then you end up with a colony of resistant bacteria in you
that you can't get rid of. That's why in hospitals, you'll see them
prescribe about 3 antibiotics at once (to cover what they think the bug
could be) and then when the find out, immediately cease the ones that
aren't required and continue with the one that is, or change it completely
without finishing a course. But still, it would be interesting to find
out the results of this practice after years, whether it's better, worse,
or no different. I suppose I should go and find some articles in case
this is on my exam...


(off topic)
My 6 year old son Luke has health problems asthma/sinus being two major ones
we deal with a lot, two years ago he got a sinus infection that would not go
away for at least two months, it set off his asthma to the point he was on
oxygen, in the hospital, they did several treatments of amoxicillin through
that winter, which I was against but was forced being he was in bad shape,
this past winter he started again and the first antibiotic they gave was
amoxicillin by the second dose he was covered head to toe in fluid filled
bubbles and could not breath, I wondered if it had to do with them giving
him so much of it the year before, I know sometimes you can just become
allergic to something but it was strange that it was amoxicillin that they
kept giving him and it caused such a bad reaction.
Nik
PS: at one point they gave us a script for antibiotics with four refills and
said any time his nose is running and his eyes are swollen start him on the
antibiotics because its a sinus infection, ugh that's when we decided to get
him a different doctor, now he only gets them when its effecting his asthma
and causing breathing problems, and we are trying to treat what's causing
the problems instead of just treating the symptoms.



swarvegorilla April 26th 06 03:51 PM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 

"Mellie101" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi, i had this with one of my goldfish. I was using 'quick cure' at
the time for a fungal infections and then gave her some antibiotic
food. It was a long process but did work in eventually. Probably not
much help but maybe an alternative if you can't get anything else. I
assume that you can get antibiotic food in AU? The fish hated it but
the problem did stop. Haven't seen anything resembling it for at least
5-6 weeks now.

I'm a newbie and so not experienced like the other 'pro's' here.
It worked for me
Mellie


No you can't get it easily which is good.
It's a very useful drug and it's stupid to just use it all the time.
It wipes out gut bacteria, and continued use leads to resistant strains of
badeeeeees!
Anyway if you have a real use ya can see a vet.
It's a cheap med dude but ya don't wanna just use it at every chance....
Try some spinach/pea/geletin/fresh crushed garlic and beef heart.
Might just need a clean out
or could be worms either way dam




swarvegorilla April 26th 06 03:53 PM

Where can I get metronidazole in AU?
 

"Beano" wrote in message
oups.com...
I checked for Hex-a-mit. The only Australian websites that come up on
the search just tell you to use it, there's no sites to purchase it.

I figured the vet would have it - I really love this fish, but I
honestly didn't think vets looked at fish... I thought fish were one of
those animals where the vet would laugh and say "meh, just flush
it!"...

Has anyone here taken a fish to the vet???


Many a time.
We cut them up together sometimes.
very romantic
LOL
nah it's good to know sometimes and a good fish vet is worth gold




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