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Bryan August 9th 06 12:13 AM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
Sandy,

As far as filter, I have read a lot that canisters aren't the best for
marine aquariums but I do see them a lot. I have no personal experience
with those but might I suggest the Emperor 400? Awesome filter! Go do your
research and ask a few people; you can then decide for yourself.

Lastly, I got a Rio 800 water pump and since have heard several people
dislike them. I haven't had any problems though. My 2nd water pump I
purchased was a Maxi-Jet. Great pump that you can angle and twist and
turn... also many aquarist hold Maxi-Jets as they're favorite so that added
piece of mind for me.

After the ammonia drops from cycle some live rock, get some hermit crabs and
astrea snails to start cleaning up the tank. I don't believe you need 1 per
gallon as I read a lot. That' will just fill your tank up too much. Get
about half of that and you'll be happy.

Test kits in the beginning stages really only need to be : ammonia,
nitrate, nitrite and pH.

Good water, RO/DI can be made at home or bought at many pet stores that have
tanks. I buy mine, so much cheaper and easier for now with the way my home
is set up. Try to avoid tap water but it's not out of the question.

Better details about setting up in you go online. I found www.about.com had
some great stuff. My 90g is running just fine.

Lastly, when it is time to get fishy's, don't just buy pretty ones. Write
down the names of the ones you like at fish stores and do your research
research research at home first. You'll be glad you did for many reasons
you'll find out soon enough.

G'Luck!

B



"Sandy" wrote in message
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Hi,
I am new at sal****er. I have been trying to gather the things I need but
I am not sure all the items I need.

sofar I have a 70gal tank with stand and canopy and a Jager200watt heater,
Coral life 48 inch aqualight T5.

from what I understand I need test kits, filter, protein skimmer.

other then live rock, water, salt and fish...what else do I need.

I plan to set up a reef tank...I understand it takes time to get
everything up and running and to take things very slow before adding
fish.....

TIA




Inabón Yunes August 9th 06 01:16 AM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
I built my own filter which has a skimmer built-in. It also has many other
cool stuff but it is still under development.
What I am trying to say is that I don't belief in any of those expensive
filters. Good luck!
But, since I am not selling my filter YET, I suggest to get you any filter
that controls the TSS (total suspended solids), has activated carbon and
either calcareous or resin media to help nitrifying bacteria do their stuff.
Good luck again!
iy
"Sandy" wrote in message
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thats a good idea, maybe I will start with a FO tank then slowly work my
way up to FWLR....any suggestions for a good reliable filter to get? its
a 70 gallon tank.

"Inabón Yunes" wrote in message
...
Good, I suggest that you start with a FO tank, save money for the
lighting system and then go to reef.
I didn't see any references to lighting, if you did, what kind of
lighting are you going to use?
Then, is there the issue of inverts and their poor tolerance to chlorine.
Reef keeping isn't easy and a good RO filter can save you a lot on the
long run when filtering destilled water.
Do yourself a favor, start with fish only (FO) then take a step to FWLR.
Once you've mastered the sal****er issues it will be easy to step into
corals. They are expensive and hard to maintain.
iy
"Sandy" wrote in message
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That didnt really answer my question , and I have taken that course
already...I just need to know if there any items I am missing other than
a filter and/protien skimmer and test kits. based on what I all ready
have.

Thanks.

"Inabón Yunes" wrote in message
...
Well, you got a lot of work and inve$ments ahead of you.
For starters, go here, http://saltaquarium.about.com/c/ec/1.htm
It has many assumptions but its OK to start here.
iy
"Sandy" wrote in message
news:JduAg.315364$IK3.76390@pd7tw1no...
Hi,
I am new at sal****er. I have been trying to gather the things I need
but I am not sure all the items I need.

sofar I have a 70gal tank with stand and canopy and a Jager200watt
heater, Coral life 48 inch aqualight T5.

from what I understand I need test kits, filter, protein skimmer.

other then live rock, water, salt and fish...what else do I need.

I plan to set up a reef tank...I understand it takes time to get
everything up and running and to take things very slow before adding
fish.....

TIA












Wayne Sallee August 9th 06 01:22 AM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
Inabón Yunes wrote on 8/8/2006 8:16 PM:
I built my own filter which has a skimmer built-in. It also has many other
cool stuff but it is still under development.
What I am trying to say is that I don't belief in any of those expensive
filters. Good luck!
But, since I am not selling my filter YET,


That sure sounds familiar :-) hehehehe


But yes a lot of things can be made if one is crafty. And
it can be fun making them.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Pszemol August 17th 06 10:10 PM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
"Inabón Yunes" wrote in message ...
Good, I suggest that you start with a FO tank, save money for the lighting system and then go to reef.
I didn't see any references to lighting, if you did, what kind of lighting are you going to use?
Then, is there the issue of inverts and their poor tolerance to chlorine. Reef keeping isn't easy and a good RO filter can save
you a lot on the long run when filtering destilled water.
Do yourself a favor, start with fish only (FO) then take a step to FWLR. Once you've mastered the sal****er issues it will be easy
to step into corals. They are expensive and hard to maintain.


Maintaining corals-only tank with no fish is actually easier than FO.


Wayne Sallee August 17th 06 10:47 PM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
Yep, once you know how to take care of them that is.

They don't chase down the other corals and kill them. All
you have to do is give them enough space that they don't
reach out and touch someone.

If a sps coral gets an infection, you can just cut the
infected part off. Can't do that with a fish.

Want more corals, just cut the ones you have in half.
Can't do that with the fish.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Pszemol wrote on 8/17/2006 5:10 PM:
"Inabón Yunes" wrote in message
...
Good, I suggest that you start with a FO tank, save money for the
lighting system and then go to reef.
I didn't see any references to lighting, if you did, what kind of
lighting are you going to use?
Then, is there the issue of inverts and their poor tolerance to
chlorine. Reef keeping isn't easy and a good RO filter can save you a
lot on the long run when filtering destilled water.
Do yourself a favor, start with fish only (FO) then take a step to
FWLR. Once you've mastered the sal****er issues it will be easy to
step into corals. They are expensive and hard to maintain.


Maintaining corals-only tank with no fish is actually easier than FO.


Inabón Yunes August 18th 06 03:10 AM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
It is but very expensive!
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"Inabón Yunes" wrote in message
...
Good, I suggest that you start with a FO tank, save money for the
lighting system and then go to reef.
I didn't see any references to lighting, if you did, what kind of
lighting are you going to use?
Then, is there the issue of inverts and their poor tolerance to chlorine.
Reef keeping isn't easy and a good RO filter can save you a lot on the
long run when filtering destilled water.
Do yourself a favor, start with fish only (FO) then take a step to FWLR.
Once you've mastered the sal****er issues it will be easy to step into
corals. They are expensive and hard to maintain.


Maintaining corals-only tank with no fish is actually easier than FO.




Pszemol August 18th 06 03:52 PM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
"Inabón Yunes" wrote in message .. .
It is but very expensive!


Well... there are many ways to make the cost less painfull.


Inabón Yunes August 19th 06 12:23 AM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
I am working on it
The other day I found a nice lighting system for my aquarium on Ebay. I
didn't win but will keep trying
iy
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"Inabón Yunes" wrote in message
.. .
It is but very expensive!


Well... there are many ways to make the cost less painfull.




Pszemol August 19th 06 06:07 PM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
"Inabón Yunes" wrote in message . ..
I am working on it
The other day I found a nice lighting system for my aquarium on Ebay.
I didn't win but will keep trying


There are variety of corals which do not need extra-strong lighting.
Most of the soft corals you can grow without MH/HID lights, with
VHO/PC fluorescence light only...
I have a tank with bubble tip anemone under pc fluorescence and it
is growing fine and looks good.


Inabón Yunes August 20th 06 12:49 AM

beginner Saltwater tank setup
 
keep talking, what is PC lighting?
iy
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"Inabón Yunes" wrote in message
. ..
I am working on it
The other day I found a nice lighting system for my aquarium on Ebay.
I didn't win but will keep trying


There are variety of corals which do not need extra-strong lighting.
Most of the soft corals you can grow without MH/HID lights, with
VHO/PC fluorescence light only...
I have a tank with bubble tip anemone under pc fluorescence and it
is growing fine and looks good.





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