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Tristan January 10th 07 10:06 PM

Diatoms
 
Silica is not even close to silcates. Silicates make problems silcia
is inert and comprises 97% of all ocean bottom and beach sands.




On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:04:13 -0500, KurtG
wrote:

kim gross wrote:
Normally Diatom blooms come from Silca.

Silica, right? Silicon dioxide which acidifies when dissolved in water.

And your water source is
normally the main source of diatoms.

You meant silica again, right?


Are you using RO/DI water? If not
I would be willing to bet that you have silca in your water source and
that is causing the diatom bloom.

Interesting. I heard that silica doesn't belong in a reef aquarium, but
I never knew why.

--Kurt



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

rtk January 11th 07 12:13 AM

Diatoms
 
kim gross wrote:



Normally Diatom blooms come from Silca. And your water source is
normally the main source of diatoms. Are you using RO/DI water? If not
I would be willing to bet that you have silca in your water source and
that is causing the diatom bloom.

Also adding that inch of fine sand could have released some silca into
the tank also, if it was added before the bloom I would say it was the
source, but with it being added after the bloom it could not have caused
the initial bloom.

Kim


I use RO/DI and the canisters are quite fresh. I added the
fine sand to solve the problem, but you're right that now
it's worse. I'm hoping lessening the light will help because
it doesn't accumulate overnight.

rtk

rtk January 11th 07 12:16 AM

Diatoms
 
Add Homonym wrote:


By the "narrow tube" of the skimmer... you mentioned you had an aqua c
remora I think? Do you mean the "spray injection" tube? You might check
that, but what I meant is is there crap growing on the inside of the
reaction chamber and or intake tube? Do you have the preskimmer/baffle
thingy that they sell as an option for the remora's? If not, and if
there is crap growing inside the reaction chamber, it COULD be that your
skimmer is putting out water with more dissolved organics in it than the
water that is going INTO it.


I mean the very skinny tube that requires removal of a
plastic screw to put a 1/2 inch cleaner down. I clean the
skimmer twice a week. Tomorrow I'm going to take down the
whole skimmer and scrub all of it.

rtk

LoŠust-101 January 11th 07 12:17 AM

Diatoms
 

"Tristan" wrote in message
...
Silica is not even close to silcates. Silicates make problems silcia
is inert and comprises 97% of all ocean bottom and beach sands.

Beat up any old granmothers today yet tristan? punch them in the face eh?
Why yo udont attack the men?
remeber before you lose ISP tristan when you were Roy? Wich old granny this
one was, eh?

"Roy" Tristan wrote in message
...
I used to use a product called a Windsong, it was later changed to
the name of Roy Mckoi, and then later it became a Roy lo.......but
its genetically known as a Roy Wolf. It worked fine except yu had
to keep holdiing its head under while it sucked up the skum. Perhaps a
few bricks or weights around the neck of that device would make it
work better.......



On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:04:13 -0500, KurtG
wrote:

kim gross wrote:
Normally Diatom blooms come from Silca.

Silica, right? Silicon dioxide which acidifies when dissolved in
water.

And your water source is
normally the main source of diatoms.

You meant silica again, right?


Are you using RO/DI water? If not
I would be willing to bet that you have silca in your water source
and
that is causing the diatom bloom.

Interesting. I heard that silica doesn't belong in a reef aquarium,
but
I never knew why.

--Kurt



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



Wayne Sallee January 11th 07 05:15 PM

Diatoms
 
Yep, Since "silica" is shorter than "silicon" one would
tend to think that "silica" was the name for the element,
instead of "silicon" But "silicone" is the element. Now
why couldn't scientist have done a better job of naming? :-)


Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Tristan wrote on 1/10/2007 5:06 PM:
Silica is not even close to silcates. Silicates make problems silcia
is inert and comprises 97% of all ocean bottom and beach sands.




On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:04:13 -0500, KurtG
wrote:

kim gross wrote:
Normally Diatom blooms come from Silca.

Silica, right? Silicon dioxide which acidifies when dissolved in water.

And your water source is
normally the main source of diatoms.

You meant silica again, right?


Are you using RO/DI water? If not
I would be willing to bet that you have silca in your water source and
that is causing the diatom bloom.

Interesting. I heard that silica doesn't belong in a reef aquarium, but
I never knew why.

--Kurt



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!


Peter Pan January 11th 07 10:53 PM

Diatoms
 
Can anyone explain to me in simple terms what Diatoms are. I tried to
google it, but the site are all checical this or chemcal that. Its beyond
what I know.
Thanks
"rtk" wrote in message
...
I've developed a nasty case of brownies. I think it's just a
coincidence that I opened a new bag of salt, same company.
No new anything in the tank. I tried an inch of fine sand on
top of the old, but that didn't stop anything. I change 6
gallons of water per week from the 55 gallon tank. Here's a
pic with a few details:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/...wSal****er/Sal
****erID.html
I'd appreciate any suggestions. It is seriously ugly.

rtk




KurtG January 11th 07 11:32 PM

Diatoms
 
single cell algae.

http://www.indiana.edu/~diatom/diatom.html

Diatoms are unicellular algae generally placed in the family
Bacillariophyceae. The cell walls of these organisms are made of silica,
and the varied shapes and beautiful ornamentation of these walls made
the study of the diatoms and related siliceous organisms a favored
pursuit of the microscopical pioneers.


Peter Pan wrote:
Can anyone explain to me in simple terms what Diatoms are. I tried to
google it, but the site are all checical this or chemcal that. Its beyond
what I know.
Thanks
"rtk" wrote in message
...
I've developed a nasty case of brownies. I think it's just a
coincidence that I opened a new bag of salt, same company.
No new anything in the tank. I tried an inch of fine sand on
top of the old, but that didn't stop anything. I change 6
gallons of water per week from the 55 gallon tank. Here's a
pic with a few details:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/...wSal****er/Sal
****erID.html
I'd appreciate any suggestions. It is seriously ugly.

rtk




Peter Pan January 12th 07 07:23 PM

Diatoms
 
I found this site when I looked it up, and it I didn't understand it. I
wanted to know more specifically what it looks like how do you know if you
have it and why is it bad.




http://www.indiana.edu/~diatom/diatom.html

Peter Pan wrote:
Can anyone explain to me in simple terms what Diatoms are. I tried to
google it, but the site are all checical this or chemcal that. Its

beyond
what I know.
Thanks





KurtG January 12th 07 07:47 PM

Diatoms
 

Don't you get Brown algae on your glass? I need to clean mine almost
daily. It's not really algae, but diatoms.

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/alg...algaediato.htm

--Kurt



Peter Pan wrote:
I found this site when I looked it up, and it I didn't understand it. I
wanted to know more specifically what it looks like how do you know if you
have it and why is it bad.



http://www.indiana.edu/~diatom/diatom.html

Peter Pan wrote:
Can anyone explain to me in simple terms what Diatoms are. I tried to
google it, but the site are all checical this or chemcal that. Its

beyond
what I know.
Thanks




Peter Pan January 12th 07 09:23 PM

Diatoms
 
I have some but not a lot. I need to clean it about once a month or so. I
never knew what it was, I always thought is was a bi-product of over
feeding.
Other then an eye sore, is it harmful to the tank?
"KurtG" wrote in message
...

Don't you get Brown algae on your glass? I need to clean mine almost
daily. It's not really algae, but diatoms.

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/alg...algaediato.htm

--Kurt



Peter Pan wrote:
I found this site when I looked it up, and it I didn't understand it. I
wanted to know more specifically what it looks like how do you know if

you
have it and why is it bad.



http://www.indiana.edu/~diatom/diatom.html

Peter Pan wrote:
Can anyone explain to me in simple terms what Diatoms are. I tried to
google it, but the site are all checical this or chemcal that. Its

beyond
what I know.
Thanks







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