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RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created
"Tynk" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 5, 8:05?pm, "High Fins" wrote: ANOTHER screen name??? What's that make...25 for ya now? [REJECTION] = Hyperbolic Ad Homonym. Endangering Target. |
RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created
On Mar 6, 11:17?am, "Heliope" wrote:
AND ANOTHER!! |
RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created
High Fins wrote:
Who shall we blame this time? Wayne? Tara? Derek? Carol? It's always someone else's fault isn't it? Well I'm pleased to see you included yourself on the list......but sadly the only one on the list to blame for this is you, Carol.......and maybe a bit of Wayne but then he is very new to your games and won't learn from the experience of others.....he will soon enough.....and not via abuse from Roy but from your incessant trolling of a group in which you have no interest other than carrying out your personal vendetta against two posters on the group......then maybe one day he will listen to those that have put up with over 2 years of this crap.....and maybe, just maybe, acknowledge we know what we are talking about...... So come on muppet girl....dance to the tune and prove yourself as the troll and vicious, vindicative person you truly are.....Strings are mine tonight.....if they are not then you will clear off and leave this group alone......so, girl, it is your call.....are you a troll or will you do the adult thing and back off ramr..... Choice is yours, girl Gill |
RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created
"Gill Passman" wrote in message ... High Fins wrote: Who shall we blame this time? Wayne? Tara? Derek? Carol? It's always someone else's fault isn't it? Well I'm pleased to see you included yourself on the list......but sadly the only one on the list to blame for this is you, Carol.......and maybe a bit of Wayne Yep... always BLAME someone else. It's never poor foul mouth Tristan's fault. People MAKE him attack others and have psychotic episodes. People have magical powers. If he flips out completely and kills his wife it's someone else's fault, right Gill? Tristan is a grown man in his 50s. No one can make him do anything he doesn't want to do - accept that truth! but then he is very new to your games and won't learn from the experience of others.....he will soon enough.....and not via abuse from Roy but from your incessant trolling of a group in which you have no interest other than carrying out your personal vendetta against two posters on the group...... Why are you trolling here Gill? Pot calling Kettle black? He surely sees you have some motive to defend a sex-obsessed foul mouth person who refuses to get help for his mental illness. then maybe one day he will listen to those that have put up with over 2 years of this crap.....and maybe, just maybe, acknowledge we know what we are talking about...... Right.... we all MADE poor Tristan go postal on several posters here! We forced him to act like an idiot. So come on muppet girl....dance to the tune and prove yourself as the troll and vicious, vindicative person you truly are..... Gee Gill......... you must be looking in a mirror. :-) Strings are mine tonight.....if they are not then you will clear off and leave this group alone...... You're the one replying to me!!!!!!! LOL!!!! Pot calls kettle black. ;-) so, girl, it is your call.....are you a troll or will you do the adult thing and back off ramr..... Choice is yours, girl Yep girl.......you are truly the muppet girl of the Aquarium groups. Tristan did what he did to himself in all the groups. Anyone who looks in rec.ponds for the past few months is well aware of his obsessive anti-social behavior. Anyone who Googles Roy or ~Roy or ~Roy~ will quickly see what he is. Your defending him isn't going to turn him into a normal person. You're not qualified to deal with his serious borderline personality disorder. |
RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created
"Gill Passman" wrote in message ... High Fins wrote: Who shall we blame this time? Wayne? Tara? Derek? Carol? It's always someone else's fault isn't it? Oh, and here's your good friend Tristan's impersonation of a legitimate poster. Why haven't you taken him to task for this Gill? Or is it Tara's or Wayne's "fault" he did this? Why is it ok for him to nym-shift but you get all upset when someone else does it? Goose and gander... remember? ;-) From: "Reel McKoi" Newsgroups: rec.aquaria.marine.reefs Subject: SUPER LOW PRICES FIJI AND TONGA LIVE ROCK REASONABLE SHIPPING RATES Date: 2 Mar 2007 05:48:41 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: . com NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.255.242.221 |
RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created
"Tynk" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 6, 11:17?am, "Heliope" wrote: AND ANOTHER!! ========================== Really boring on your Google group huh? No action there. I figured you'd be back here where they can't muzzle, leash and control you. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created
On Mar 6, 10:03�pm, "Reel McKoi"
wrote: "Tynk" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 6, 11:17?am, "Heliope" wrote: AND ANOTHER!! ========================== Really boring on your Google group huh? *No action there. * Well Sybill, I still post there. Nobody argues with anyone. People disagree all the time. However, the difference is you're not allowed there. People can disagree without acting like you do. Dance away muppet....Keep dancing. It's a good laugh for eveyrone. |
RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created
"Tynk" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 6, 10:03�pm, "Reel McKoi" wrote: "Tynk" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 6, 11:17?am, "Heliope" wrote: AND ANOTHER!! ========================== Really boring on your Google group huh? No action there. Well Sybill, I still post there. Nobody argues with anyone. People disagree all the time. However, the difference is you're not allowed there. Of course I'm not. I never was one of the cabal, and I was blamed for bringing Roy Tristan Hauer here. Not only that, but I refused to vanish for a few weeks and come back with a new name and persona and pretend to be someone I wasn't from somewhere I've never been with fish I don't have to fool the trolls. How horrible of me! However, you can get as nasty and arrogant and insulting with people as you choose and they see that as ok! Double standard here? People can disagree without acting like you do. Like YOU do you mean. Unless someone agrees with you you get arrogant, nasty and run the off. They don't come back. Dance away muppet....Keep dancing. It's a good laugh for eveyrone. And the laugh is on you for harassing me and failing to drive me off as you did all the others who didn't "see things your way." So keep dancing and prancing and jumping through the hoops......... -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created to get rid of TRISTAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Bye bye psycho case!!!!!!!!!!!! "Tristin" wrote in message ... Wayne don;t like a moderated group it takes the spot light off him just like it does CArol Gulley....Ain;t that right Wayne? On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:14:08 +0000, Gill Passman wrote: FYI only.....for all those that doubt that the trolls can be beaten please read the below......you are being attacked by the same troll group......maybe consider taking this option.... Gill The Big-8 Management Board wrote: RESULT rec.ponds.moderated will be created The Last Call for Comments on 28 Feb 2007 inititated a five-day period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8 Management Board has decided by a vote to create the newsgroup rec.ponds.moderated. The vote was 8 in favor and 0 opposed. 1 active member did not vote. This group will be created on 09 Mar 2007. NEWSGROUPS LINE: rec.ponds.moderated rec.ponds.moderated Care & enjoyment of recreational pods & water gardens. (Moderated) CHARTER: C01 Description and Purpose Rec.ponds.moderated is a moderated newsgroup that provides a friendly, respectful forum for the discussion of all aspects of ponds and water gardens. The rec.ponds.moderated newsgroup appeals to a wide range of people involved in both the recreational and professional aspects of establishing and maintaining a pond or water garden. Participants range from novices to persons with many years of experience, from amateur hobbyists to professional botanists and ichthyologists, from students wishing to get help with science projects to retired persons seeking a quiet, pleasurable pastime. All interested persons are welcomed to share ideas, ask questions, or simply to lurk and learn. C02 Permitted Content Discussions appropriate to a ponding community including, but not limited to: * Building a pond/water garden * Establishing an ecosystem * Plant life * Fish * Amphibians and reptiles * Aquatic environmental concerns * Discussions of large, unlined natural ponds C03 The Following Is Prohibited All posts containing these items are rejected, and returned with explanation if permitted by the automated software. * Obscenities * Implied or direct threats, slander, insults, bigotry, prejudice or harassment * Flaming, trolling, flooding, and personal verbal attacks * Frequent petty criticism of another poster * Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats * Attacks on others based on gender, race, sexual orientation or religion * Commercial posts * Excessive cross-posting, although limited, on-topic cross-posting is permitted * Chain letters * Posts written in HTML * EMP spam * Binaries, other than pgp signatures, x-face headers, and other ancillary article meta-data * Forgery of names, valid email addresses and/or approval headers * Excessive morphing/nym shifting ("excessive" is undefined but is at the discretion of the moderators) * Excessive quoting of old material, with little new content (these will be judgment calls made by the moderators) * Personal identification information associated with anyone other than the poster (e.g. residential addresses, phone numbers and government identifications) * Content advocating acts that would be intrinsically illegal in most places * Copyright violations. (However, pointers to news articles, blogs, etc. that are on-topic are welcome. They must comply with fair use standards.) C04 Charter Implementation The charter of this newsgroup is implemented by a group of moderators. Their task is to develop and carry out the methods and means necessary to insure that the stated purposes of the group charter are accomplished. Their methods shall be defined as Moderation Policy and Practices. (MPP) Moderators make use of whatever tools and discussion processes they deem necessary to carry out their responsibilities. One such tool may include the use of automated moderation software. C05 Moderation Policy Objectives and Practices Moderation policy adheres to and carries out the stated goals and purposes of the group. Moderation policy & practices (MPP) may be changed by the moderators to meet the ongoing needs of the newsgroup charter. Proposed changes are announced by the moderators in the newsgroup, and newsgroup readers are invited to share and discuss their views of the proposed changes. Passage of the changes is by a 2/3 majority vote of the moderators. Changes are published in the newsgroup. C06 Moderator Standards Moderators approve or reject posts based upon content as listed in C02 and C03 above. Moderators maintain a standard of neutrality and non-bias. Moderators do not add, delete, or edit anything within a post. Tags are not added. Decisions of the moderation team are final. Moderators permit posts that may contain technically incorrect information, provided that the post is not deemed to be deliberately deceptive. Any approved post that is forwarded to the newsgroup, and contains incorrect information, may and should be followed up by posts that attempt to correct the misinformation. Such corrective posts may be made by any interested person/s in the newsgroup. All personal posts made by moderators go through the same complete process as posts made by the general readership of the group. Moderators do not review their own posts, nor those of a relative. Moderators who fail to abide by the charter and current moderation policy may be warned and/or removed by the other moderators. C07 Moderator Accessibility and Accountability The moderators provide options for both private and public interaction with the readership of the newsgroup. An email contact address is provided for complaints, appeals, reviews and suggestions. The receipt of emails to the contact address is acknowledged by a return email, provided a valid return address is given. In addition, the Charter provides for limited public discussion of the general issues of moderation policy, group operation and other matters that affect the group. Moderators shall create and occasionally publish FAQ and other documents that promote the functionality of the newsgroup. C08 Readership Participation & Responsibility All participants in the group may: * Request changes to moderation policy and participate in the discussion of changes. * Privately ask for all moderators to review a specific rejected post (within practical numerical limits determined by the moderators.) * Nominate new moderators. MODERATION POLICY: rec.ponds.moderated MPP01 Purpose The purpose of moderation policy & practices is to carry out the objectives and goals of the charter. MPP may be changed as per the Charter and MPP13. MPP02 Automated (robotic) Moderation Software If and when feasible, the moderation team may employ automated moderation software to initially screen and pre-filter all incoming posts, and to ensure that all posts meet certain current moderation policies. Posts that do not will be automatically returned along with a brief explanation (if permitted by the automated software), provided that such posts have a valid return address. All posts that are approved by the automated software will be forwarded to human moderators for further examination. MPP03 Cross-posting Minimal cross-posting to related groups based on subject matter (e.g.,fish hobby, gardening and wildlife management) will be allowed. No cross-posting to irrelevant groups will be permitted. Such cross-posted messages shall be returned, provided a valid return address is provided. When feasible, cross-post filtering may be handled by automated software. MPP04 Authorship of Posts Anyone will be allowed to post as long as they are not forging another poster's name or address. Anonymous posting will be allowed. Occasional name-shifting may be permitted, but excessive name-shifting will not be permitted, as per C03. Automated robotic software methods to protect the author's identity may be employed through the use of voluntary passwords, pgp, or any other methods if and when such methods become technically available. MPP05 Human Moderation After approval by any automated software, messages are forwarded to the moderators who will review them and then make final decisions of approval or rejection based upon the content of the post (C02 and C03). There shall be no editing of any post by any moderator, as stated in C06 of the Charter. Rejected messages shall be returned to the poster, provided a valid return address is available. If permitted by the software, an explanation for the rejection shall be included. MPP06 Moderator Approval and Rejection Policies At a minimum, when using automated software, one moderator may approve a post to be forwarded to the newsgroup, and one moderator may reject a post and have it returned. If the automated robotic software contains a multi-pass/reject option, then more than one moderator may be asked to agree before a post is approved or rejected. Moderators may consult with one another before deciding to pass or reject a post whose content is borderline or questionable. This consultation may add to the time-delay of the processing of a post. If a post is rejected, it may be appealed to the Moderation Team, provided it is seen as a legitimate request, and not as a disruptive attempt or tactic to distract or flood the team with large numbers of obviously inappropriate messages. MPP07 Personal Advertising Very limited personal advertising shall be permitted. Such advertising must be directly related to on-topic aquatic/pond subject matter. Such postings must be non-commercial and of a "for-sale" type for items that the poster no longer needs or wants. The number of ads permitted by any one poster per any given time period shall be left to the discretion of the moderators, with all posters subject to the same conditions. MPP08 Ending Threads The moderators reserve the right to end a thread that has veered significantly off-topic, or that has become dominated by rehashing and/or repetition. MPP09 Moderator Decisions The decisions of the moderation team shall be final. MPP10 Structure of the Human Moderation Team The review and moderation of posts that are approved by the automated software program will be conducted by a Moderation Team. The first moderation team members will be divided into two classes, and appointed for one or two year terms, to end on August 31, 2008 and 2009 respectively. Thereafter a new class of moderators will be elected annually during the month of August, to serve two-year terms, beginning on September 1st of the election year and continuing through August 31st of the second year after the election. The current moderation team will select each new class of moderators, and election will be by a minimum 2/3 vote of the current moderators. The total number of moderators may be changed by the moderation team, which will seek to maintain an equal number of members in each class. The general readership of rec.ponds.moderated are encouraged to propose/nominate potential moderators to the team, as per C08. When nominating and electing new moderators, all persons involved shall remain mindful of the benefit and need for the moderation team to be as globally positioned as possible. This helps to ensure adequate global representation and also to lower the time-delay factor in approving posts. Moderators may be re-elected. The moderation team shall elect persons to fill vacancies using the 2/3 criterion for election. MPP11 Head Moderator The moderation team may choose to elect a (head/chief/administrative) moderator by a majority vote, if it deems such a position to be necessary. The duties and responsibilities of such a position would be determined as needed. MPP12 Moderator Removal If a moderator does not abide by the charter and current moderation policies, the other moderators may warn and, if necessary, remove that moderator by a 2/3 majority vote of the moderation team. Moderators who wish to resign for any reason may do so by emailing the head moderator or the moderation team. MPP13 Changes to Moderation Policy & Practices As stated in the Charter, moderation policy & practices (MPP) may be changed to meet the permanent objectives of the Charter and the ongoing needs of the newsgroup. Proposed changes are announced by the moderators in the newsgroup, and the general readership may discuss the proposed changes. Changes shall be adopted by a 2/3 majority of the current moderators, and will be published in the newsgroup. As stated in C08, the general readership may suggest changes to policy and practices. MPP14 Moderator Posts Moderators shall use [MODERATOR ANNOUNCE:] to preface official informational posts to the readership of rec.ponds.moderated. MPP15 Moderator Contact Address As per C07, the moderators shall provide a contact email address for anyone who wishes to make a complaint, question, or offer a suggestion. MODERATOR INFO: rec.ponds.moderated Moderator: Derek Moderator: Galen Moderator: ~jan Moderator: Jim Moderator: Kathy30a Moderator: Phyllis Moderator: Gill At the time of the submission of the 3rd RFD/LCC, the proponent and proposed moderators of r.p.m have chosen to use ReadySTUMP as the automated software program for the newsgroup. Article Submissions: Administrative Contact: DISTRIBUTION: This document has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups.proposals rec.ponds rec.aquaria.misc rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc The proponent will also post pointers to: rec.aquaria.freshwater.goldfish rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants alt.aquaria PROPONENT: Ron Schompert Co-Proponent: Galen Hekhuis CHANGE HISTORY: 2006-12-14 1st RFD 2007-01-12 2nd RFD 2007-02-28 3rd RFD/LCC 2007-03-05 Results ------- I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know! |
RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created
"swarvegorilla" wrote in message ... YEA BABY!!!! that is super sweet :) jeez took a while but yes a big pat on the back for all involved very very well done WooooooooooooT!!! No more asshole Tristan and no more idiot jabberhole................. Yaaaaaaaaa HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! |
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