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"eekamouse" wrote in message ups.com... Too bad most FW enthusiasts do not pasy as much attention to "cleanup" crews as SW folks do. There is all kinds of suitable clean up critters out there but they are pretty drab looking as compared to sal****er critters, so therefore they tend to be ignored. Thats one reason they are hard to find in most LFS as no one is gonna buy that drabold critter when they can get a flashy pictus cat or a golden nugget pleco.......... This may be true. I have 3 albino corys, a rubberlip pleco and 2 clown plecos which I almost never see. The clown loaches also seem to like checking out the gravel. RM.any of the sand with the exception of calcium based (old castle or southdown) is fine. So just look for grain size that suits you. If in doubt if its calcium (limestone based) take a smallbottle of vinegar with you and apply a couple of drops to the sand or gravel and if it fizzes its limestone or calcium based...........which would not b e good unless its used in a african cichlid environment. You'll find the calcium / limestone based sands moreinthe paver section as they tend to quarry rocks and grind it and its limestone they usually use for that.........and it can be usually a grey or white in color. Silica or quartz based looks like sugar and is uniformin grain size (about like sugar|) That's one of the sands I use to mix with potting soil for for my cacti and succulents. and plain silica based masonary is a tan to yellow color and is commonly used in m,asonary work / concrete etc. This is the other sand I have, the one I was thinking on putting in the 55g, nixed with a fine brown gravel from Lowe's. I wold not pay any attention to tube, traction or what have you as it matters not. Its just a packaging and nameing game so do not let the package name sway you one way or the other. Look for color and grain size and what type of sand it is.not its intended use. If its stated for masonary or concrete or playsand you can pretty well guaraantee its free of mud and mica particles, and only needs a good washing. They also sell a sand called river run which is commonly sucked form river bottoms and is a brown in color. It is usually washed by the dredge company prior to it being marketed and it too is used in masonary and is perfectly suitable, but I have never seen it in bagged packs, only huge outdoor piles. Thanks for this information. I have plenty of time to check around the different stores. I'm kind of busy this time of year repotting and working with all my houseplants so this tank wont be filled until maybe the end of the month. :-) -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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On Oct 10, 9:59 am, Tynk wrote:
On Oct 9, 1:42?pm, "Reel McKoi" wrote: I just know about the concrete type and the tube (or traction) sand. Right now I've got 4 tubes of it on the garage floor waiting until winter. = ) Tubes? ?What do you mean "tubes" of it? ?Here it's sold in 50lb bags like the play sand. I know exactly what you mean. The paper bagged ones...same as the concrete mix bags. Tube sand is basically how the bag it comes in is shaped. It's a long tube form. The bag is some type of really tuff plastic, and they're about maybe 2 1/2 feet long or so. Mine are 60 pounds each. They're great for a little added weight over the rear axle of vehicles that tend to slide around in the winter (vans, trucks, little hotrods like mine, hehe). The only thing that slides around on TY|NK is her new dick in her panties and her tiny brain in that big ****ing head of hers! |
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"Tynk" wrote in message ups.com... I know exactly what you mean. The paper bagged ones...same as the concrete mix bags. Tube sand is basically how the bag it comes in is shaped. It's a long tube form. The bag is some type of really tuff plastic, and they're about maybe 2 1/2 feet long or so. Mine are 60 pounds each. They're great for a little added weight over the rear axle of vehicles that tend to slide around in the winter (vans, trucks, little hotrods like mine, hehe). ========================= Gotcha! ;-) -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(รถ |
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I've used fine beach sand for over a decade. And builders sand which
needs to be rinsed well. You always end up siphoning some out when you chnage water. Maybe a tablespoon or so per 5 gal bucket. Every few years I add maybe a handful of new sand. It's not a big deal. The nice thing is nothing can get stuck in gaps like what happens with courser grained gravels. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
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Reel McKoi wrote: "Jeffrey St. Clair, Ph.D." wrote in message ... Are you referring to play type sand? No, not the play sand. It's too fine. Works ok for me: http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2000/Mar26/ I was afraid it would go anaerobic from fine mulm if I used just sand or a sand mix and didn't or couldn't vac it. I count on it being anaerobic at the bottom of 4-5" of sand. I put a half inch layer of manure under there plus some washers and steel wool. Under anaerobic conditions the iron is reduced to a state usable by plants. I've found roots just utterly tangled around washes like they were sucking the iron right of if like a life-saver (UK: polo mint). I also notife on crypt roots that the top 2-3" of root will be white while the bottom half will look like it has rust on it. Which is pretty much whats happening. I dunno if you folks have ever pulled plants in nature but aquatic substrates are frequently anaerobic. I've kept shrimp in these tanks long term, which meand no ammonia and no metal ions getting into the water column. Either even in the smallest amounts would kill shrimp in short order. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Reel McKoi wrote: "Jeffrey St. Clair, Ph.D." wrote in message ... Are you referring to play type sand? No, not the play sand. It's too fine. Works ok for me: http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2000/Mar26/ I was afraid it would go anaerobic from fine mulm if I used just sand or a sand mix and didn't or couldn't vac it. I count on it being anaerobic at the bottom of 4-5" of sand. I put a half inch layer of manure under there plus some washers and steel wool. Under anaerobic conditions the iron is reduced to a state usable by plants. I've found roots just utterly tangled around washes like they were sucking the iron right of if like a life-saver (UK: polo mint). I also notife on crypt roots that the top 2-3" of root will be white while the bottom half will look like it has rust on it. Which is pretty much whats happening. I dunno if you folks have ever pulled plants in nature but aquatic substrates are frequently anaerobic. I've kept shrimp in these tanks long term, which meand no ammonia and no metal ions getting into the water column. Either even in the smallest amounts would kill shrimp in short order. ========================================= I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... The nice thing is nothing can get stuck in gaps like what happens with courser grained gravels. ============================ At this time I'm using the finest gravel I could find and vac it on a regular basis. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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Reel McKoi wrote: I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image39x.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image19s.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2004/Oct/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/1999/Dec28/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image25.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...0/Image29a.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image31.jpg Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras" and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank. I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Reel McKoi wrote: I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image39x.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image19s.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2004/Oct/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/1999/Dec28/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image25.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...0/Image29a.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image31.jpg Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras" and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank. I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails. ============================= Beautiful plants. Is Aquanet your website? -- RM.... Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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Reel McKoi wrote: "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Reel McKoi wrote: I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image39x.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image19s.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2004/Oct/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/1999/Dec28/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image25.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...0/Image29a.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image31.jpg Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras" and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank. I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails. ============================= Beautiful plants. Is Aquanet your website? I'm not sure what "aquanet" is but aquaria.net is mine and has been since about 93 or so. It says that on the front page of http://aquaria.net -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
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