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Hank Nussbacher December 2nd 07 06:36 AM

Winter Pond Questions
 
In article ,
redsockfluff wrote:

if the temp is below 10 degrees C then you should not feed your fish
in your pond. they can last the winter without food because the cold
weather slows their metabolism right down

red


If you feed them and the water temp is below 12c/54f then the food they eat
will not get digested and it will expand in their stomaches, decay and
eventually cause their death.

If you need to feed your fish in the winter then use Sera Koi Professional
Winter Food or TetraPond Wheat Germ Sticks.

UK:
http://www.reptilica.co.uk/product_info.
php/product/Sera_KOI_Professional_Winter_Food

US:
http://www.gardenponds.com/fish7.htm

See:
http://www.feedingkoi.com/koi_feedin...old_water.html

-Hank

[email protected] December 5th 07 02:45 PM

Winter Pond Questions
 
Koi cannot digest carbohydrates. dont know where the idea to feed wheat germ and
cheerios got started, but carbs ferment so dont feed that at all.

I feed my koi a bit of protein when my water is 50oF or better all winter long. I
heat my pond a bit or the koi wouldnt have food for 6 months, too long, too much
stress. this year I am using frozen krill. basically the nibble on algae and itty
bitty critters all winter long when the temp is up so I am just giving them a bit
more. Ingrid

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 06:36:29 GMT, (Hank Nussbacher) wrote:
If you feed them and the water temp is below 12c/54f then the food they eat
will not get digested and it will expand in their stomaches, decay and
eventually cause their death.

If you need to feed your fish in the winter then use Sera Koi Professional
Winter Food or TetraPond Wheat Germ Sticks.


Hank Nussbacher December 6th 07 07:18 AM

Winter Pond Questions
 
In article , wrote:
Koi cannot digest carbohydrates. dont know where the idea to feed wheat germ
and
cheerios got started, but carbs ferment so dont feed that at all.


I don't know anything about Cherrios, but Tetra only recommends to feed the
wheat germ when temps are between 39-50F. I would assume a company like Tetra
isn't killing off all Koi in the winter by selling this food. I would also
assume they have tested this out before marketing it as such. If you feel
otherwise, then here is a good chance for a lawsuit.

-Hank


On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 06:36:29 GMT,
(Hank Nussbacher) wrote:
If you feed them and the water temp is below 12c/54f then the food they eat
will not get digested and it will expand in their stomaches, decay and
eventually cause their death.

If you need to feed your fish in the winter then use Sera Koi Professional
Winter Food or TetraPond Wheat Germ Sticks.


[email protected] December 6th 07 03:47 PM

Winter Pond Questions
 
oh.. you mean tested it out like the pet food industry did for the processed
commercial dog foods. dogs dont digest complex carbs well either which is why they
have these huge dumps. dogs eat meat. koi eat meat. neither are herbivores, and
koi most certainly cannot digest land based, high cellulose carbohydrates. koi have
a very short intestine, just like dogs.

the day they show proof that wheat germ grows in the water and they get pictures of
the koi nibbling on it is the day I will believe it is "good" for the koi.

tetra pond koi wheat germ sticks
Ingredients: wheat germ meal, fish meal, corn flour, dehulled soybean meal, feeding
oat meal, wheat germ, wheat germ meal.

Fish meal, or fishmeal, is a commercial product made from both whole fish and the
bones and offal from processed fish. It is a brown powder or cake obtained by
pressing the whole fish or fish trimmings to remove the fish oil.

Some of these sites are recommending feeding this from 39oF to 50oF. Now koi wont
eat below 45oF. but I ask, how is ANYONE going to PROVE that rotting food in the gut
killed a fish? Look how long it took to connect that melamine powder (used to boost
"protein" levels artificially) was killing dogs and cats.

Ingrid

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 07:18:40 GMT, (Hank Nussbacher) wrote:
I don't know anything about Cherrios, but Tetra only recommends to feed the
wheat germ when temps are between 39-50F. I would assume a company like Tetra
isn't killing off all Koi in the winter by selling this food. I would also
assume they have tested this out before marketing it as such. If you feel
otherwise, then here is a good chance for a lawsuit.



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