Sick Lotus brown leaves
 

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:37:11 GMT, "jrock64" wrote:

Zone 4 NW Iowa
Temps in the low 90's
PH 8.5 to 9+

There's your problem, high temps and the plant is wanting to grow, grow,
grow, but the pH is limiting its ability to take up nutrients. Check your
Kh, give me how many gallons and what critters resides in your pond and I
can help you lower that pH with muriatic acid. Wonder if MirAcid makes a
spike? ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Sick Lotus brown leaves
 

Jan, I notice you mention Muriatic Acid ... My Pond pH
is always high. I use 1 cup of Baking Soda for every 1,000
gallon of water. I do this as a matter of course. Every two
weeks or so I put in another 1 cup of Baking Soda - next
day I test KH. It has worked fine for the pond. This fish
pond water is then used to flood the lotus pond.

I notice you are using sand for a planting medium ... works
fine, doesn't it? The gals who were advising me told me not
to use sand .... I didn't listen (!) and has worked for me.
That must have been one of the things that worked for you
too. That, and adding the touch of acid to the water ;)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:37:11 GMT, "jrock64" wrote:

Zone 4 NW Iowa
Temps in the low 90's
PH 8.5 to 9+

There's your problem, high temps and the plant is wanting to grow, grow,
grow, but the pH is limiting its ability to take up nutrients. Check your
Kh, give me how many gallons and what critters resides in your pond and I
can help you lower that pH with muriatic acid. Wonder if MirAcid makes a
spike? ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Sick Lotus brown leaves
 

I agree with Nedra and Jan.. pea gravel, sand, etc makes fine potting media,
instead of soil. No nutrients to leach out into the pond and cause further
algal blooms.
I use the gravel as it is lighter than the sand, and much easier to clean up
if you knock it over..
Happy ponding,
Greg
--


"Nedra" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Jan, I notice you mention Muriatic Acid ... My Pond pH
is always high. I use 1 cup of Baking Soda for every 1,000
gallon of water. I do this as a matter of course. Every two
weeks or so I put in another 1 cup of Baking Soda - next
day I test KH. It has worked fine for the pond. This fish
pond water is then used to flood the lotus pond.

I notice you are using sand for a planting medium ... works
fine, doesn't it? The gals who were advising me told me not
to use sand .... I didn't listen (!) and has worked for me.
That must have been one of the things that worked for you
too. That, and adding the touch of acid to the water ;)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:37:11 GMT, "jrock64" wrote:

Zone 4 NW Iowa
Temps in the low 90's
PH 8.5 to 9+

There's your problem, high temps and the plant is wanting to grow, grow,
grow, but the pH is limiting its ability to take up nutrients. Check
your
Kh, give me how many gallons and what critters resides in your pond and
I
can help you lower that pH with muriatic acid. Wonder if MirAcid makes a
spike? ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Sick Lotus brown leaves
 

I need to correct my last post.. I was referring to marginals and lilies
when I mentioned pea gravel/sand. For lotuses, I still use clay, as I sink
them in my "farm"/dirt pond in 3 ft diameter containers, which I fill with
the clay I dug out of the pond to put the container into.
I don't maintain lotus in my 8,000 gallon water garden per se, although
there is no reason I could not.
I also have a couple of tubs sunk in gardens away from ponds and water
gardens with lotus in them.
Easy to maintain and no weeding hassles! Make great backdrops to buildings,
etc.
Happy ponding,
Greg

--


"Gregory Young" wrote in message
...
I agree with Nedra and Jan.. pea gravel, sand, etc makes fine potting
media,
instead of soil. No nutrients to leach out into the pond and cause further
algal blooms.
I use the gravel as it is lighter than the sand, and much easier to clean
up
if you knock it over..
Happy ponding,
Greg
--


"Nedra" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Jan, I notice you mention Muriatic Acid ... My Pond pH
is always high. I use 1 cup of Baking Soda for every 1,000
gallon of water. I do this as a matter of course. Every two
weeks or so I put in another 1 cup of Baking Soda - next
day I test KH. It has worked fine for the pond. This fish
pond water is then used to flood the lotus pond.

I notice you are using sand for a planting medium ... works
fine, doesn't it? The gals who were advising me told me not
to use sand .... I didn't listen (!) and has worked for me.
That must have been one of the things that worked for you
too. That, and adding the touch of acid to the water ;)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:37:11 GMT, "jrock64" wrote:

Zone 4 NW Iowa
Temps in the low 90's
PH 8.5 to 9+

There's your problem, high temps and the plant is wanting to grow,
grow,
grow, but the pH is limiting its ability to take up nutrients. Check
your
Kh, give me how many gallons and what critters resides in your pond
and
I
can help you lower that pH with muriatic acid. Wonder if MirAcid makes
a
spike? ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Sick Lotus brown leaves
 

Hi Greg,

Your method of planting lotuses is the "old fashioned" way!
Wish I were physically able to handle 3 foot wide containers
of clay. Your containers of lotus sound charming... scattered
about so to speak.

My lotus pond is lined only because the two 'on-line' ladies who were
helping me told me to line it ... lol There is no way I could
handle a 3 foot wide container full of clay and lotus. My largest
container is about 20 inches wide - I'm doing good to get that
eased into the pond. I have so many plants that have jumped
the pots and are growing into the sand in the pond. I will have a heck of
time trying to divide next spring.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Gregory Young" wrote in message
...
I need to correct my last post.. I was referring to marginals and lilies
when I mentioned pea gravel/sand. For lotuses, I still use clay, as I sink
them in my "farm"/dirt pond in 3 ft diameter containers, which I fill with
the clay I dug out of the pond to put the container into.
I don't maintain lotus in my 8,000 gallon water garden per se, although
there is no reason I could not.
I also have a couple of tubs sunk in gardens away from ponds and water
gardens with lotus in them.
Easy to maintain and no weeding hassles! Make great backdrops to
buildings,
etc.
Happy ponding,
Greg

--


"Gregory Young" wrote in message
...
I agree with Nedra and Jan.. pea gravel, sand, etc makes fine potting
media,
instead of soil. No nutrients to leach out into the pond and cause
further
algal blooms.
I use the gravel as it is lighter than the sand, and much easier to
clean
up
if you knock it over..
Happy ponding,
Greg
--


"Nedra" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Jan, I notice you mention Muriatic Acid ... My Pond pH
is always high. I use 1 cup of Baking Soda for every 1,000
gallon of water. I do this as a matter of course. Every two
weeks or so I put in another 1 cup of Baking Soda - next
day I test KH. It has worked fine for the pond. This fish
pond water is then used to flood the lotus pond.

I notice you are using sand for a planting medium ... works
fine, doesn't it? The gals who were advising me told me not
to use sand .... I didn't listen (!) and has worked for me.
That must have been one of the things that worked for you
too. That, and adding the touch of acid to the water ;)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:37:11 GMT, "jrock64"
wrote:

Zone 4 NW Iowa
Temps in the low 90's
PH 8.5 to 9+

There's your problem, high temps and the plant is wanting to grow,
grow,
grow, but the pH is limiting its ability to take up nutrients. Check
your
Kh, give me how many gallons and what critters resides in your pond
and
I
can help you lower that pH with muriatic acid. Wonder if MirAcid
makes
a
spike? ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Sick Lotus brown leaves
 

Hi Nedra:
Don't feel bad. One of my lotuses (Indian variety... of course the largest),
"secretly" sent out 3 runners into main natural/farm/dirt pond. I went out
and carefully dug them out, lifted them up and wrapped them in a circular
fashion, and then pushed them back into soil in the 3 foot container it was
planted in.
Only broke off one leading edge, which had rooted pretty deep into mud pond.
Got all the remnants of that, fortunately.
Once the lotuses get away from you, they can be worse than cattails (am
referring to strictly in natural/mud/farm ponds).
I will have to keep a closer eye on that lotus.
Other 4 are well behaved, staying in their tubs!
I can not move the tubs once filled with clay either.. no way, but then
again I don't think I could move them filled with sand/rock either.
Once in, they stay in place!
The ones in the terrestrial garden are different. I could always dig the
clay back out, and then remove the tubs, but they look fine where they are
(got the boss to approve the location first. I told her I wasn't going to be
moving those around..
Happy ponding,
Greg
--


"Nedra" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Hi Greg,

Your method of planting lotuses is the "old fashioned" way!
Wish I were physically able to handle 3 foot wide containers
of clay. Your containers of lotus sound charming... scattered
about so to speak.

My lotus pond is lined only because the two 'on-line' ladies who were
helping me told me to line it ... lol There is no way I could
handle a 3 foot wide container full of clay and lotus. My largest
container is about 20 inches wide - I'm doing good to get that
eased into the pond. I have so many plants that have jumped
the pots and are growing into the sand in the pond. I will have a heck of
time trying to divide next spring.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Gregory Young" wrote in message
...
I need to correct my last post.. I was referring to marginals and lilies
when I mentioned pea gravel/sand. For lotuses, I still use clay, as I
sink
them in my "farm"/dirt pond in 3 ft diameter containers, which I fill
with
the clay I dug out of the pond to put the container into.
I don't maintain lotus in my 8,000 gallon water garden per se, although
there is no reason I could not.
I also have a couple of tubs sunk in gardens away from ponds and water
gardens with lotus in them.
Easy to maintain and no weeding hassles! Make great backdrops to
buildings,
etc.
Happy ponding,
Greg

--


"Gregory Young" wrote in message
...
I agree with Nedra and Jan.. pea gravel, sand, etc makes fine potting
media,
instead of soil. No nutrients to leach out into the pond and cause
further
algal blooms.
I use the gravel as it is lighter than the sand, and much easier to
clean
up
if you knock it over..
Happy ponding,
Greg
--


"Nedra" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Jan, I notice you mention Muriatic Acid ... My Pond pH
is always high. I use 1 cup of Baking Soda for every 1,000
gallon of water. I do this as a matter of course. Every two
weeks or so I put in another 1 cup of Baking Soda - next
day I test KH. It has worked fine for the pond. This fish
pond water is then used to flood the lotus pond.

I notice you are using sand for a planting medium ... works
fine, doesn't it? The gals who were advising me told me not
to use sand .... I didn't listen (!) and has worked for me.
That must have been one of the things that worked for you
too. That, and adding the touch of acid to the water ;)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:37:11 GMT, "jrock64"
wrote:

Zone 4 NW Iowa
Temps in the low 90's
PH 8.5 to 9+

There's your problem, high temps and the plant is wanting to grow,
grow,
grow, but the pH is limiting its ability to take up nutrients.
Check
your
Kh, give me how many gallons and what critters resides in your
pond
and
I
can help you lower that pH with muriatic acid. Wonder if MirAcid
makes
a
spike? ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website