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Dark Phoenix January 14th 04 02:11 AM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 

"LoaderLady" wrote in message
. ..
Plants: nothing with small leaves which goldfish can get in their mouths.
Java Fern is highly recommended. I had a goldfish rip apart a piece of
hornwort in seconds but I think she was possibly after some baby snails

and
not the plant itself. I had wisteria in my tank and the fish left it

alone,
too, but the snails wrecked it. It is pretty, but requires alot of light.


Wisteria as in the woody vine??? Or is this also a name for an aquatic
plant?

--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

"Every dog has it's day, but nights are reserved for cats." -



LoaderLady January 14th 04 03:48 AM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 
Different plants require different lighting. I mean wattage per gallon, not
time-wise. I found that out recently myself. LOL. I have 15 watt bulbs in
my planted 5 gallon tanks (3 watt/gallon). Some plants require even more
than that! With big tanks, you're looking at loads of electricity! That's
why I only planted my little tanks. I'm really not into getting 270 watts
for my 90g tank LOL.

There is so much to learn about fish and aquariums that it can get crazy
sometimes. I just stick to "learning" what I personally like. LOL. There
are newsgroups and lots of web pages on fish, plants, etc. If you like to
read, you'll be in heaven! LOL.

--
} Tammy {
Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store from
this address:
http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project

Watkins Business Opportunity
www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
Me and my fish Thank You!!
"ste mc ©" wrote in message
...
Hi Tammy,

Thanks for your post. I don't mind the fish eating the plants, so long as
it does them no harm. But obviously, my main objective is to have a plant
that looks pretty for me! ;-) When you say that Wisteria, you said it's
pretty but requires a lot of light. I've got a single light in my hood,
would this be okay, or not enough? It looks bright enough for me, but I
don't know that particular needs of plants.

I wouldn't mix tropical fish with goldfish, and I'm not using a heater in
the tank either so probably couldn't. When I move house later this year,
I'd then like to get a bigger tank to house some tropical fish on their

own.

That's a cute little story about your swordfish, perhaps you could sell

this
story to the makers of Finding Nemo 2, in case they are looking for a

story!
:-)

Thanks for the advice, and I am a big reader! Perhaps I should have read
more before I got the first fish, but no going back now, just onwards and
upwards! :-)

Thanks,

Stephen



"LoaderLady" wrote in message
. ..
| Plants: nothing with small leaves which goldfish can get in their

mouths.
| Java Fern is highly recommended. I had a goldfish rip apart a piece of
| hornwort in seconds but I think she was possibly after some baby snails
and
| not the plant itself. I had wisteria in my tank and the fish left it
alone,
| too, but the snails wrecked it. It is pretty, but requires alot of

light.
|
| As for other fish, you don't want to mix tropicals with goldfish since

the
| GF produce so much ammonia, and they have different dietary needs.

Also,
a
| common one to put in there is an "algae eater", but this is also a

mistake
| since some will suck on the slime coat of a GF. Besides, goldfish will
| graze on algae so you don't need one.
|
| Most of us just keep our goldfish by themselves, or with a snail or 2.

I
| have a little swordtail in with my goldfish, but he thinks he is a
goldfish.
| LOL. He was among plants which the LFS put in the tank with some
fantails,
| and when he scooped water into the bag to catch my new fantails, he
scooped
| up 2 fry, and this little guy is the surviving one. He's now 5 months

old
| and I don't have the heart to separate them. When I first got my big

tank
| set up and moved the goldfish into it, I left the swordtail in the

little
| tank by himself and he was "pacing" and swimming frantically around, so

I
| finally gave in and put him in the GF tank. He hangs around my smallest
| fish and eats goldfish food, etc. he's healthy and happy so I haven't
| bothered to move him, but other than that, I have guppies and Angelfish
and
| they have their own tanks.
|
| Good luck with your new fish, and don't hesitate to ask if you have any
| concerns. Sometimes people here can be blunt, but it doesn't mean you
| should take it personally. Unfortunately, many people don't do their
| homework, nor do they bother to ask about the fish, and us folks

dedicated
| to the hobby get upset when this happens, that's all. But we are here

to
| help, and you have a delete button for posts you don't like...
|
|
|
| --
| } Tammy {
| Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store
from
| this address:
| http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
| purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
|
| Watkins Business Opportunity
| www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
| Me and my fish Thank You!!
| "ste mc ©" wrote in message
| ...
| Hey there,
|
| First of all, thanks to Mel, Ingrid, and Deanna for your replies. I

was
| going to come back here and tell you that I thought your advice was a
bit
| over the top, and that my fish tank would be fine as it was. I was
going
| to
| say, if you want such a big tank for your fish, why don't you do the
right
| thing and let them back in the ocean where they belong, rather than
| keeping
| them trapped in some aquarium, which no matter how big, will never
compare
| to their natural habitats.
|
| But I then started reading more after your advice, so I've followed

it.
| :-)
| I bought a new tank today to replace the large goldfish bowl which we
had
| beforehand. The new tank came with a Fluval 2 filter. Hopefully, it
will
| do the job. If not, we'll just get a bigger filter later on. The

tank
| also
| came with a light in the hood, and the tank is 80cm x 30cm x 40cm,

which
| holds 96 litres, or 21 gallons.
|
| I've got two fish in this, a Blackmoor, and something else - I will

take
a
| photo later in the week and upload it to my webspace so someone can
| identify
| it! ;-)
|
| If anyone can recommend any real plants that will look nice in the

tank
| and
| be okay with my fish, then please feel free to do so. We've currently
got
| some of those plastic plants, but they look ever so tacky. Also, if
| anyone
| can recommend any other aquatic life that would work well within our
| aquarium, then please let me know.
|
| So thanks to everyone for their help, it's much appreciated - not by

me
or
| my bank balance so much, but my two little fishies! :-)
|
| Thanks,
|
| Stephen
|
|
|
| "ste ©" wrote in message
| ...
| | Hi there,
| |
| | I've got a small goldfish tank with two goldfish. To clean it, I've
| been
| | putting the fish into a bowl of clean water, then cleaning out their
| tank
| | and gravel in the bath.
| |
| | The tank is probably too small to bother with a filter, but is there
any
| | other way to keep the water clean without changing it every week?

Are
| there
| | any small water creatures I can get that will keep it cleaner for
| example?
| | I've also read somewhere about some sort of 'water hoover,' would

that
| be
| | any good for what I'm talking about?
| |
| | Thanks for any advice.
| |
| | Regards,
| |
| | Stephen
| |
| |
|
|
|
|





LoaderLady January 14th 04 04:02 AM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 
It reminded me of a carrot top, but lighter in color and bushier. Maybe I
spelled that wrong, but I'm sure that's the name... Wisteria. Of course, I
did purchase it at Petsmart, so they could have had it wrong, too.

--
} Tammy {
Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store from
this address:
http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project

Watkins Business Opportunity
www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
Me and my fish Thank You!!
"Dark Phoenix" wrote in message
...

"LoaderLady" wrote in message
. ..
Plants: nothing with small leaves which goldfish can get in their

mouths.
Java Fern is highly recommended. I had a goldfish rip apart a piece of
hornwort in seconds but I think she was possibly after some baby snails

and
not the plant itself. I had wisteria in my tank and the fish left it

alone,
too, but the snails wrecked it. It is pretty, but requires alot of

light.

Wisteria as in the woody vine??? Or is this also a name for an aquatic
plant?

--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

"Every dog has it's day, but nights are reserved for cats." -





ste mc © January 14th 04 01:08 PM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 
Hi Tammy,

270 watts is a lot of light! I think I'll pass on those for now. :-)

Talking of web pages, can you or anyone else recommend some informative
websites for goldfish etc? I've already been on a few sites mentioned in
this group, but wondered if there were a few definiteive websites people
here would recommend me to refer to as my 'bible' if I needed to find
information on anything?

Thanks,

Stephen


"LoaderLady" wrote in message
...
Different plants require different lighting. I mean wattage per gallon,

not
time-wise. I found that out recently myself. LOL. I have 15 watt bulbs

in
my planted 5 gallon tanks (3 watt/gallon). Some plants require even more
than that! With big tanks, you're looking at loads of electricity!

That's
why I only planted my little tanks. I'm really not into getting 270 watts
for my 90g tank LOL.

There is so much to learn about fish and aquariums that it can get crazy
sometimes. I just stick to "learning" what I personally like. LOL.

There
are newsgroups and lots of web pages on fish, plants, etc. If you like to
read, you'll be in heaven! LOL.

--
} Tammy {
Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store

from
this address:
http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project

Watkins Business Opportunity
www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
Me and my fish Thank You!!
"ste mc ©" wrote in message
...
Hi Tammy,

Thanks for your post. I don't mind the fish eating the plants, so long

as
it does them no harm. But obviously, my main objective is to have a

plant
that looks pretty for me! ;-) When you say that Wisteria, you said it's
pretty but requires a lot of light. I've got a single light in my hood,
would this be okay, or not enough? It looks bright enough for me, but I
don't know that particular needs of plants.

I wouldn't mix tropical fish with goldfish, and I'm not using a heater

in
the tank either so probably couldn't. When I move house later this

year,
I'd then like to get a bigger tank to house some tropical fish on their

own.

That's a cute little story about your swordfish, perhaps you could sell

this
story to the makers of Finding Nemo 2, in case they are looking for a

story!
:-)

Thanks for the advice, and I am a big reader! Perhaps I should have

read
more before I got the first fish, but no going back now, just onwards

and
upwards! :-)

Thanks,

Stephen



"LoaderLady" wrote in message
. ..
| Plants: nothing with small leaves which goldfish can get in their

mouths.
| Java Fern is highly recommended. I had a goldfish rip apart a piece

of
| hornwort in seconds but I think she was possibly after some baby

snails
and
| not the plant itself. I had wisteria in my tank and the fish left it
alone,
| too, but the snails wrecked it. It is pretty, but requires alot of

light.
|
| As for other fish, you don't want to mix tropicals with goldfish since

the
| GF produce so much ammonia, and they have different dietary needs.

Also,
a
| common one to put in there is an "algae eater", but this is also a

mistake
| since some will suck on the slime coat of a GF. Besides, goldfish

will
| graze on algae so you don't need one.
|
| Most of us just keep our goldfish by themselves, or with a snail or 2.

I
| have a little swordtail in with my goldfish, but he thinks he is a
goldfish.
| LOL. He was among plants which the LFS put in the tank with some
fantails,
| and when he scooped water into the bag to catch my new fantails, he
scooped
| up 2 fry, and this little guy is the surviving one. He's now 5 months

old
| and I don't have the heart to separate them. When I first got my big

tank
| set up and moved the goldfish into it, I left the swordtail in the

little
| tank by himself and he was "pacing" and swimming frantically around,

so
I
| finally gave in and put him in the GF tank. He hangs around my

smallest
| fish and eats goldfish food, etc. he's healthy and happy so I haven't
| bothered to move him, but other than that, I have guppies and

Angelfish
and
| they have their own tanks.
|
| Good luck with your new fish, and don't hesitate to ask if you have

any
| concerns. Sometimes people here can be blunt, but it doesn't mean you
| should take it personally. Unfortunately, many people don't do their
| homework, nor do they bother to ask about the fish, and us folks

dedicated
| to the hobby get upset when this happens, that's all. But we are here

to
| help, and you have a delete button for posts you don't like...
|
|
|
| --
| } Tammy {
| Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store
from
| this address:
| http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
| purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
|
| Watkins Business Opportunity
| www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
| Me and my fish Thank You!!
| "ste mc ©" wrote in message
| ...
| Hey there,
|
| First of all, thanks to Mel, Ingrid, and Deanna for your replies. I

was
| going to come back here and tell you that I thought your advice was

a
bit
| over the top, and that my fish tank would be fine as it was. I was
going
| to
| say, if you want such a big tank for your fish, why don't you do the
right
| thing and let them back in the ocean where they belong, rather than
| keeping
| them trapped in some aquarium, which no matter how big, will never
compare
| to their natural habitats.
|
| But I then started reading more after your advice, so I've followed

it.
| :-)
| I bought a new tank today to replace the large goldfish bowl which

we
had
| beforehand. The new tank came with a Fluval 2 filter. Hopefully,

it
will
| do the job. If not, we'll just get a bigger filter later on. The

tank
| also
| came with a light in the hood, and the tank is 80cm x 30cm x 40cm,

which
| holds 96 litres, or 21 gallons.
|
| I've got two fish in this, a Blackmoor, and something else - I will

take
a
| photo later in the week and upload it to my webspace so someone can
| identify
| it! ;-)
|
| If anyone can recommend any real plants that will look nice in the

tank
| and
| be okay with my fish, then please feel free to do so. We've

currently
got
| some of those plastic plants, but they look ever so tacky. Also, if
| anyone
| can recommend any other aquatic life that would work well within our
| aquarium, then please let me know.
|
| So thanks to everyone for their help, it's much appreciated - not by

me
or
| my bank balance so much, but my two little fishies! :-)
|
| Thanks,
|
| Stephen
|
|
|
| "ste ©" wrote in message
| ...
| | Hi there,
| |
| | I've got a small goldfish tank with two goldfish. To clean it,

I've
| been
| | putting the fish into a bowl of clean water, then cleaning out

their
| tank
| | and gravel in the bath.
| |
| | The tank is probably too small to bother with a filter, but is

there
any
| | other way to keep the water clean without changing it every week?

Are
| there
| | any small water creatures I can get that will keep it cleaner for
| example?
| | I've also read somewhere about some sort of 'water hoover,' would

that
| be
| | any good for what I'm talking about?
| |
| | Thanks for any advice.
| |
| | Regards,
| |
| | Stephen
| |
| |
|
|
|
|







ste mc © January 14th 04 01:12 PM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 
Hi Vicky,

I'm looking into getting a few plants soon, so will see what my local
aquatic shops have on offer, as well as taking on board the suggestions made
in this group.

Thanks for the advice about the lights, and it's nice to know that I don't
have to sleep in the light! :-) When you say that you put the lights on
when you most want to view the fish, does that mean that the goldfish would
also be fine in the dark all the time? ie, is the light in my hood meant
for me or the goldfish? :-) Also, thanks for idea about keeping the light
on a timer, I'm going to get one on my dinner hour.

Thanks,

Stephen


"Vicky & John Taylor-Hood" wrote in message
...
Hi Stephen,

You could probably hide the filter with a few plants or a couple of
rocks.

As for the light, you should turn it off at night. I have mine on
timers so that I don't have to think about them. As a general rule,
depending on the type of fish, wattage of lamps and whether you have
plants, the lights only need to be on 10-12 hours per day. My goldfish
lights go on for 10 hours, from noon to 10 pm, when I most want to
watch them.

Good luck!
Vicky

_____________________
Vicky Taylor-Hood
fibre artist * quilter
St. John's, NF, Canada

http://www3.nf.sympatico.ca/vickyth/




Vicky & John Taylor-Hood January 14th 04 01:38 PM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 
Hi Stephen,

The lights are for both you and the fish. They need a regular night
and day cycle just like you do. Very few fish can live completely in
darkness. Your tank as a whole needs regular light and dark, too. If
you leave the lights on all the time, the algae will grow like crazy.
Keep an eye on it as you get used to your tank. If it seems to be
growing too fast, you might need to change your lighting (time,
amount, type, etc.). Keeping the nitrates under control with regular
water changes will help this too.

Timers are godsends to those of us with crazy schedules. Speaking of
which, I must go rescue the 11-month humanoid from the clutches of the
evil coffee table. Gotta love my kid - her first word was
"fisshhhhhh".

Cheers!
Vicky
_____________________
Vicky Taylor-Hood
fibre artist * quilter
St. John's, NF, Canada

http://www3.nf.sympatico.ca/vickyth/

[email protected] January 14th 04 03:32 PM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 
yes

Or is this also a name for an aquatic
plant?




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Mel January 14th 04 04:17 PM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 
Here are a couple of useful websites for you to have a look at,
http://members.aol.com/sirchin/goldfish.htm
http://www.goldfishparadise.com/index.php

And for fishy supplies here's a good one .I order all my stuff from them
and they've always been reliable and the prices are good, especially for
internal filters http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/acatalog/index.html

Mel.


"ste mc ©" wrote in message
...
Hi Tammy,

270 watts is a lot of light! I think I'll pass on those for now. :-)

Talking of web pages, can you or anyone else recommend some informative
websites for goldfish etc? I've already been on a few sites mentioned in
this group, but wondered if there were a few definiteive websites people
here would recommend me to refer to as my 'bible' if I needed to find
information on anything?

Thanks,

Stephen


"LoaderLady" wrote in message
...
Different plants require different lighting. I mean wattage per gallon,

not
time-wise. I found that out recently myself. LOL. I have 15 watt

bulbs
in
my planted 5 gallon tanks (3 watt/gallon). Some plants require even

more
than that! With big tanks, you're looking at loads of electricity!

That's
why I only planted my little tanks. I'm really not into getting 270

watts
for my 90g tank LOL.

There is so much to learn about fish and aquariums that it can get crazy
sometimes. I just stick to "learning" what I personally like. LOL.

There
are newsgroups and lots of web pages on fish, plants, etc. If you like

to
read, you'll be in heaven! LOL.

--
} Tammy {
Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store

from
this address:
http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project

Watkins Business Opportunity
www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
Me and my fish Thank You!!
"ste mc ©" wrote in message
...
Hi Tammy,

Thanks for your post. I don't mind the fish eating the plants, so

long
as
it does them no harm. But obviously, my main objective is to have a

plant
that looks pretty for me! ;-) When you say that Wisteria, you said

it's
pretty but requires a lot of light. I've got a single light in my

hood,
would this be okay, or not enough? It looks bright enough for me, but

I
don't know that particular needs of plants.

I wouldn't mix tropical fish with goldfish, and I'm not using a heater

in
the tank either so probably couldn't. When I move house later this

year,
I'd then like to get a bigger tank to house some tropical fish on

their
own.

That's a cute little story about your swordfish, perhaps you could

sell
this
story to the makers of Finding Nemo 2, in case they are looking for a

story!
:-)

Thanks for the advice, and I am a big reader! Perhaps I should have

read
more before I got the first fish, but no going back now, just onwards

and
upwards! :-)

Thanks,

Stephen



"LoaderLady" wrote in message
. ..
| Plants: nothing with small leaves which goldfish can get in their

mouths.
| Java Fern is highly recommended. I had a goldfish rip apart a piece

of
| hornwort in seconds but I think she was possibly after some baby

snails
and
| not the plant itself. I had wisteria in my tank and the fish left

it
alone,
| too, but the snails wrecked it. It is pretty, but requires alot of

light.
|
| As for other fish, you don't want to mix tropicals with goldfish

since
the
| GF produce so much ammonia, and they have different dietary needs.

Also,
a
| common one to put in there is an "algae eater", but this is also a

mistake
| since some will suck on the slime coat of a GF. Besides, goldfish

will
| graze on algae so you don't need one.
|
| Most of us just keep our goldfish by themselves, or with a snail or

2.
I
| have a little swordtail in with my goldfish, but he thinks he is a
goldfish.
| LOL. He was among plants which the LFS put in the tank with some
fantails,
| and when he scooped water into the bag to catch my new fantails, he
scooped
| up 2 fry, and this little guy is the surviving one. He's now 5

months
old
| and I don't have the heart to separate them. When I first got my

big
tank
| set up and moved the goldfish into it, I left the swordtail in the

little
| tank by himself and he was "pacing" and swimming frantically around,

so
I
| finally gave in and put him in the GF tank. He hangs around my

smallest
| fish and eats goldfish food, etc. he's healthy and happy so I

haven't
| bothered to move him, but other than that, I have guppies and

Angelfish
and
| they have their own tanks.
|
| Good luck with your new fish, and don't hesitate to ask if you have

any
| concerns. Sometimes people here can be blunt, but it doesn't mean

you
| should take it personally. Unfortunately, many people don't do

their
| homework, nor do they bother to ask about the fish, and us folks

dedicated
| to the hobby get upset when this happens, that's all. But we are

here
to
| help, and you have a delete button for posts you don't like...
|
|
|
| --
| } Tammy {
| Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite

store
from
| this address:
| http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used

to
| purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
|
| Watkins Business Opportunity
| www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
| Me and my fish Thank You!!
| "ste mc ©" wrote in message
| ...
| Hey there,
|
| First of all, thanks to Mel, Ingrid, and Deanna for your replies.

I
was
| going to come back here and tell you that I thought your advice

was
a
bit
| over the top, and that my fish tank would be fine as it was. I

was
going
| to
| say, if you want such a big tank for your fish, why don't you do

the
right
| thing and let them back in the ocean where they belong, rather

than
| keeping
| them trapped in some aquarium, which no matter how big, will never
compare
| to their natural habitats.
|
| But I then started reading more after your advice, so I've

followed
it.
| :-)
| I bought a new tank today to replace the large goldfish bowl which

we
had
| beforehand. The new tank came with a Fluval 2 filter. Hopefully,

it
will
| do the job. If not, we'll just get a bigger filter later on. The

tank
| also
| came with a light in the hood, and the tank is 80cm x 30cm x 40cm,

which
| holds 96 litres, or 21 gallons.
|
| I've got two fish in this, a Blackmoor, and something else - I

will
take
a
| photo later in the week and upload it to my webspace so someone

can
| identify
| it! ;-)
|
| If anyone can recommend any real plants that will look nice in the

tank
| and
| be okay with my fish, then please feel free to do so. We've

currently
got
| some of those plastic plants, but they look ever so tacky. Also,

if
| anyone
| can recommend any other aquatic life that would work well within

our
| aquarium, then please let me know.
|
| So thanks to everyone for their help, it's much appreciated - not

by
me
or
| my bank balance so much, but my two little fishies! :-)
|
| Thanks,
|
| Stephen
|
|
|
| "ste ©" wrote in message
| ...
| | Hi there,
| |
| | I've got a small goldfish tank with two goldfish. To clean it,

I've
| been
| | putting the fish into a bowl of clean water, then cleaning out

their
| tank
| | and gravel in the bath.
| |
| | The tank is probably too small to bother with a filter, but is

there
any
| | other way to keep the water clean without changing it every

week?
Are
| there
| | any small water creatures I can get that will keep it cleaner

for
| example?
| | I've also read somewhere about some sort of 'water hoover,'

would
that
| be
| | any good for what I'm talking about?
| |
| | Thanks for any advice.
| |
| | Regards,
| |
| | Stephen
| |
| |
|
|
|
|









GiveMeABMW January 14th 04 05:00 PM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 
Talking of web pages, can you or anyone else recommend some informative
websites for goldfish etc? I've already been on a few sites mentioned in
this group, but wondered if there were a few definiteive websites people
here would recommend me to refer to as my 'bible' if I needed to find
information on anything?

Here are some of the sites I have found useful:
http://puregold.aquaria.net/ (naturally)
www.fishpalace.org
www.goldfishparadise.com
http://www.aquahobby.com
http://members.aol.com/sirchin/goldfish.htm
http://www.kokosgoldfish.com
www.aquamaniacs.net
http://www.angelfire.com/grrl/fantailfishy/
http://www.fishpondinfo.com/gfish.htm

For shopping:
www.goldfishconnection.com
www.bigalsonline.com
www.drsfostersmith.com

You can also get fish stuff from
petsmart.com, but I'm trying to not support them. :)

ste mc © January 14th 04 09:26 PM

Cleaning out a small goldfish tank
 
Hi Mel,

Thanks for the links, I'll add all these to my favourites folder and slowly
work my way through them! :-)

Thanks,

Stephen


"Mel" wrote in message
...
| Here are a couple of useful websites for you to have a look at,
| http://members.aol.com/sirchin/goldfish.htm
| http://www.goldfishparadise.com/index.php
|
| And for fishy supplies here's a good one .I order all my stuff from them
| and they've always been reliable and the prices are good, especially for
| internal filters http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/acatalog/index.html
|
| Mel.
|
|
| "ste mc ©" wrote in message
| ...
| Hi Tammy,
|
| 270 watts is a lot of light! I think I'll pass on those for now. :-)
|
| Talking of web pages, can you or anyone else recommend some informative
| websites for goldfish etc? I've already been on a few sites mentioned
in
| this group, but wondered if there were a few definiteive websites people
| here would recommend me to refer to as my 'bible' if I needed to find
| information on anything?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Stephen
|
|
| "LoaderLady" wrote in message
| ...
| Different plants require different lighting. I mean wattage per
gallon,
| not
| time-wise. I found that out recently myself. LOL. I have 15 watt
| bulbs
| in
| my planted 5 gallon tanks (3 watt/gallon). Some plants require even
| more
| than that! With big tanks, you're looking at loads of electricity!
| That's
| why I only planted my little tanks. I'm really not into getting 270
| watts
| for my 90g tank LOL.
|
| There is so much to learn about fish and aquariums that it can get
crazy
| sometimes. I just stick to "learning" what I personally like. LOL.
| There
| are newsgroups and lots of web pages on fish, plants, etc. If you
like
| to
| read, you'll be in heaven! LOL.
|
| --
| } Tammy {
| Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store
| from
| this address:
| http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
| purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
|
| Watkins Business Opportunity
| www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
| Me and my fish Thank You!!
| "ste mc ©" wrote in message
| ...
| Hi Tammy,
|
| Thanks for your post. I don't mind the fish eating the plants, so
| long
| as
| it does them no harm. But obviously, my main objective is to have a
| plant
| that looks pretty for me! ;-) When you say that Wisteria, you said
| it's
| pretty but requires a lot of light. I've got a single light in my
| hood,
| would this be okay, or not enough? It looks bright enough for me,
but
| I
| don't know that particular needs of plants.
|
| I wouldn't mix tropical fish with goldfish, and I'm not using a
heater
| in
| the tank either so probably couldn't. When I move house later this
| year,
| I'd then like to get a bigger tank to house some tropical fish on
| their
| own.
|
| That's a cute little story about your swordfish, perhaps you could
| sell
| this
| story to the makers of Finding Nemo 2, in case they are looking for
a
| story!
| :-)
|
| Thanks for the advice, and I am a big reader! Perhaps I should have
| read
| more before I got the first fish, but no going back now, just
onwards
| and
| upwards! :-)
|
| Thanks,
|
| Stephen
|
|
|
| "LoaderLady" wrote in message
| . ..
| | Plants: nothing with small leaves which goldfish can get in their
| mouths.
| | Java Fern is highly recommended. I had a goldfish rip apart a
piece
| of
| | hornwort in seconds but I think she was possibly after some baby
| snails
| and
| | not the plant itself. I had wisteria in my tank and the fish left
| it
| alone,
| | too, but the snails wrecked it. It is pretty, but requires alot
of
| light.
| |
| | As for other fish, you don't want to mix tropicals with goldfish
| since
| the
| | GF produce so much ammonia, and they have different dietary needs.
| Also,
| a
| | common one to put in there is an "algae eater", but this is also a
| mistake
| | since some will suck on the slime coat of a GF. Besides, goldfish
| will
| | graze on algae so you don't need one.
| |
| | Most of us just keep our goldfish by themselves, or with a snail
or
| 2.
| I
| | have a little swordtail in with my goldfish, but he thinks he is a
| goldfish.
| | LOL. He was among plants which the LFS put in the tank with some
| fantails,
| | and when he scooped water into the bag to catch my new fantails,
he
| scooped
| | up 2 fry, and this little guy is the surviving one. He's now 5
| months
| old
| | and I don't have the heart to separate them. When I first got my
| big
| tank
| | set up and moved the goldfish into it, I left the swordtail in the
| little
| | tank by himself and he was "pacing" and swimming frantically
around,
| so
| I
| | finally gave in and put him in the GF tank. He hangs around my
| smallest
| | fish and eats goldfish food, etc. he's healthy and happy so I
| haven't
| | bothered to move him, but other than that, I have guppies and
| Angelfish
| and
| | they have their own tanks.
| |
| | Good luck with your new fish, and don't hesitate to ask if you
have
| any
| | concerns. Sometimes people here can be blunt, but it doesn't mean
| you
| | should take it personally. Unfortunately, many people don't do
| their
| | homework, nor do they bother to ask about the fish, and us folks
| dedicated
| | to the hobby get upset when this happens, that's all. But we are
| here
| to
| | help, and you have a delete button for posts you don't like...
| |
| |
| |
| | --
| | } Tammy {
| | Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite
| store
| from
| | this address:
| | http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be
used
| to
| | purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
| |
| | Watkins Business Opportunity
| | www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
| | Me and my fish Thank You!!
| | "ste mc ©" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hey there,
| |
| | First of all, thanks to Mel, Ingrid, and Deanna for your
replies.
| I
| was
| | going to come back here and tell you that I thought your advice
| was
| a
| bit
| | over the top, and that my fish tank would be fine as it was. I
| was
| going
| | to
| | say, if you want such a big tank for your fish, why don't you do
| the
| right
| | thing and let them back in the ocean where they belong, rather
| than
| | keeping
| | them trapped in some aquarium, which no matter how big, will
never
| compare
| | to their natural habitats.
| |
| | But I then started reading more after your advice, so I've
| followed
| it.
| | :-)
| | I bought a new tank today to replace the large goldfish bowl
which
| we
| had
| | beforehand. The new tank came with a Fluval 2 filter. Hopefull
y,
| it
| will
| | do the job. If not, we'll just get a bigger filter later on.
The
| tank
| | also
| | came with a light in the hood, and the tank is 80cm x 30cm x
40cm,
| which
| | holds 96 litres, or 21 gallons.
| |
| | I've got two fish in this, a Blackmoor, and something else - I
| will
| take
| a
| | photo later in the week and upload it to my webspace so someone
| can
| | identify
| | it! ;-)
| |
| | If anyone can recommend any real plants that will look nice in
the
| tank
| | and
| | be okay with my fish, then please feel free to do so. We've
| currently
| got
| | some of those plastic plants, but they look ever so tacky.
Also,
| if
| | anyone
| | can recommend any other aquatic life that would work well within
| our
| | aquarium, then please let me know.
| |
| | So thanks to everyone for their help, it's much appreciated -
not
| by
| me
| or
| | my bank balance so much, but my two little fishies! :-)
| |
| | Thanks,
| |
| | Stephen
| |
| |
| |
| | "ste ©" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Hi there,
| | |
| | | I've got a small goldfish tank with two goldfish. To clean
it,
| I've
| | been
| | | putting the fish into a bowl of clean water, then cleaning out
| their
| | tank
| | | and gravel in the bath.
| | |
| | | The tank is probably too small to bother with a filter, but is
| there
| any
| | | other way to keep the water clean without changing it every
| week?
| Are
| | there
| | | any small water creatures I can get that will keep it cleaner
| for
| | example?
| | | I've also read somewhere about some sort of 'water hoover,'
| would
| that
| | be
| | | any good for what I'm talking about?
| | |
| | | Thanks for any advice.
| | |
| | | Regards,
| | |
| | | Stephen
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|




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