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Kay February 20th 04 03:06 AM

comet with popeye, please help!
 
BErney1014 wrote:

dont use tea tree oil derivatives with your GF



When Melafix came out your opinions were based on dog and bird anecdotes. Have
you ever tried it?


I have used tee tree oil myself for years! I like http://naturesgift.com

I used it with myrrth before and after surjury and the healing was so
fast the doctor was surprised. When I heard about melafix I was excited,
and when I used it I was satisified.

Other oils I have used on people is french lavendertension headaches,
Myrrthteeth and I used also after surjury, Sweet Majorumexcellent
pain reliever worked on my carpaltunnel,musle,nerve,joint and bone
pain, peppermintmigraines, tangerinejust cause I like it,

Kay


Tom La Bron February 21st 04 03:43 AM

comet with popeye, please help!
 
Kay,

If you still have carpel tunnel (CT) problems drop me a line privately and I
will tell you how to do an exercise that has taken my CT problems away, and
also worked for my wife. My carpel tunnel was getting so bad that I was
also getting tennis elbow. My wife was thinking about surgery when I found
this method. Found out later that two people that she worked with had the
surgery and it really didn't take care of the problem. May be it will work
for you.

Tom L.L.
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"Kay" wrote in message
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BErney1014 wrote:

dont use tea tree oil derivatives with your GF



When Melafix came out your opinions were based on dog and bird

anecdotes. Have
you ever tried it?


I have used tee tree oil myself for years! I like http://naturesgift.com

I used it with myrrth before and after surjury and the healing was so
fast the doctor was surprised. When I heard about melafix I was excited,
and when I used it I was satisified.

Other oils I have used on people is french lavendertension headaches,
Myrrthteeth and I used also after surjury, Sweet Majorumexcellent
pain reliever worked on my carpaltunnel,musle,nerve,joint and bone
pain, peppermintmigraines, tangerinejust cause I like it,

Kay




[email protected] February 21st 04 07:12 AM

comet with popeye, please help!
 
yes, and the fast healing of the epithelia of a fish is the reason it isnt a good
idea. a look on the literature shows that wounds heal best from the inside out so
that bacteria dont get trapped inside and fester. this is why puncture wounds are so
dangerous. it is even more serious in that fish have the epidermis that holds the
scales and then over this is an epithelial layer that secretes slime and
antimicrobial products. If this heals over while the wound is still festering it
traps the bacteria underneath. this is the reason wounds are palpated to see if they
are hard (indicating proper healing) or if they are soft, indicating an ongoing
infection under the skin. Those wounds have to be opened up to let them drain.
salt is a good "medication" to help heal surface wounds and scrapes. fish epithelial
is a lot more like the inside of our mouths (wet epithelial) than the skin on our
hands. The inside of our mouth heals fast too and the recommended treatment for
minor wounds in the mouth like canker sores ...... salt water rinse.
It isnt just the surface of the fish that is being exposed to things dumped in the
water ... it is the lungs of the fish as well, and the gills are even more tender and
easily burned by chemicals. so why put chemicals into the water that arent going to
work better than frequent water changes and a little salt?
Ingrid

Kay wrote:
I used it with myrrth before and after surjury and the healing was so
fast the doctor was surprised. When I heard about melafix I was excited,
and when I used it I was satisified.
Kay




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Tom La Bron February 23rd 04 04:57 AM

comet with popeye, please help!
 
Yes Ingrid,

What you say is all well and good, but you are making suppositions here with
this message relating it to fish. All you references deal with dogs, cats
and birds, nothing relating with fish. You have never used a product with
tea tree oil and have no experience with the product Melafix or its use and
effectiveness. Those of us who have used it find it to be a very valid and
effective medication for fish, I say again, for FISH, not birds, cats or
dogs.

One of these days people will realize that the "Dr" part of your addys deals
with a teaching degree and has nothing to do with fish or research related
to fish or the Veterinary knowledge gained by that degree with the aspect of
fish husbandry.

Neosporin boosts fast healing and you recommend it or its substitutes all
the time, I guess by what you are saying in this message that this product
is bad also. Or is it only bad when you don't recommend it. You know you
can't have it both ways.

You are such a gem, Ingrid, you say one thing one time and then in couple of
days you actually negate things that you have said previously.

How long have you been keeping Goldfish, now, it should be about eight years
now.

Have a nice day.
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wrote in message
...
yes, and the fast healing of the epithelia of a fish is the reason it isnt

a good
idea. a look on the literature shows that wounds heal best from the

inside out so
that bacteria dont get trapped inside and fester. this is why puncture

wounds are so
dangerous. it is even more serious in that fish have the epidermis that

holds the
scales and then over this is an epithelial layer that secretes slime and
antimicrobial products. If this heals over while the wound is still

festering it
traps the bacteria underneath. this is the reason wounds are palpated to

see if they
are hard (indicating proper healing) or if they are soft, indicating an

ongoing
infection under the skin. Those wounds have to be opened up to let them

drain.
salt is a good "medication" to help heal surface wounds and scrapes. fish

epithelial
is a lot more like the inside of our mouths (wet epithelial) than the skin

on our
hands. The inside of our mouth heals fast too and the recommended

treatment for
minor wounds in the mouth like canker sores ...... salt water rinse.
It isnt just the surface of the fish that is being exposed to things

dumped in the
water ... it is the lungs of the fish as well, and the gills are even more

tender and
easily burned by chemicals. so why put chemicals into the water that arent

going to
work better than frequent water changes and a little salt?
Ingrid

Kay wrote:
I used it with myrrth before and after surjury and the healing was so
fast the doctor was surprised. When I heard about melafix I was excited,
and when I used it I was satisified.
Kay




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.




MartinOsirus February 23rd 04 06:32 AM

comet with popeye, please help!
 


I for one don't care to see these personal hostile attacks on Ingrid just
because you don't agree with her. You seem to have "an axe to grind" and trying
to discredit her - just doesn't fly! IMO - her expertise is without question.
Re - Melafix - the best we can say from web reviews is:
"Opinions seem to be divided on its performance. Some reckon it’s the bee’s
knees, others don’t rate it as highly as some of the more mainstream
medications on the market, and some suggest that it does seem to have a
negative impact on filtration, too. "



Yes Ingrid,

What you say is all well and good, but you are making suppositions here with
this message relating it to fish. All you references deal with dogs, cats
and birds, nothing relating with fish. You have never used a product with
tea tree oil and have no experience with the product Melafix or its use and
effectiveness. Those of us who have used it find it to be a very valid and
effective medication for fish, I say again, for FISH, not birds, cats or
dogs.

One of these days people will realize that the "Dr" part of your addys deals
with a teaching degree and has nothing to do with fish or research related
to fish or the Veterinary knowledge gained by that degree with the aspect of
fish husbandry.

Neosporin boosts fast healing and you recommend it or its substitutes all
the time, I guess by what you are saying in this message that this product
is bad also. Or is it only bad when you don't recommend it. You know you
can't have it both ways.

You are such a gem, Ingrid, you say one thing one time and then in couple of
days you actually negate things that you have said previously.

How long have you been keeping Goldfish, now, it should be about eight years
now.

Have a nice day.




Tom La Bron February 24th 04 03:40 AM

comet with popeye, please help!
 
Martin,

It is neither personal or hostile. Just because I point out the obvious
incongruities that appear, has nothing to do with axe grinding. Just
because Ingrid says it, doesn't make it true or correct in all instances and
this is one of them.
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"MartinOsirus" wrote in message
...


I for one don't care to see these personal hostile attacks on Ingrid just
because you don't agree with her. You seem to have "an axe to grind" and

trying
to discredit her - just doesn't fly! IMO - her expertise is without

question.
Re - Melafix - the best we can say from web reviews is:
"Opinions seem to be divided on its performance. Some reckon it's the bee'

s
knees, others don't rate it as highly as some of the more mainstream
medications on the market, and some suggest that it does seem to have a
negative impact on filtration, too. "





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