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Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/26/2006 1:06 AM:
You see, there is a whole world outthere that sees the bible for what it is worst. A bunch of papers translated from language to language that are most likely so transformed that it says the opposite of what they were intended. Don't believe everything your professors told you. Most translations go back to the original documents. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets |
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atomweaver wrote on 7/26/2006 9:19 AM:
The scientific community's support for evolution is universal (we wouldn't have the fields of modern medicine and genetics without it... Are you getting a flu vaccine this year, Wayne? If so, thanks for your support of ToE... your dollars and actions speak far more than your anecdotes do). I'll only leave a pair of links for that angle. I think the hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed evolution-related articles in various scientific journals could also be considered support for ToE; The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern medicine, not the theory of evolution. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets |
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Wayne Sallee wrote in
: atomweaver wrote on 7/26/2006 9:19 AM: The scientific community's support for evolution is universal (we wouldn't have the fields of modern medicine and genetics without it... Are you getting a flu vaccine this year, Wayne? If so, thanks for your support of ToE... your dollars and actions speak far more than your anecdotes do). I'll only leave a pair of links for that angle. I think the hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed evolution-related articles in various scientific journals could also be considered support for ToE; The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern medicine, not the theory of evolution. How so? DaveZ Atom Weaver |
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How so what? how so are we similar, or how so has our
similarities helped modern medicine? Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:18 AM: The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern medicine, not the theory of evolution. How so? DaveZ Atom Weaver |
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Wayne Sallee wrote in news:44C8DC06.90900
@WayneSallee.com: atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:18 AM: Wayne Sallee wrote: The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern medicine, not the theory of evolution. How so? DaveZ Atom Weaver How so what? how so are we similar, or how so has our similarities helped modern medicine? Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets How does the fact that we are similar to animals _not_ help the theory of evolution? DaveZ Atom Weaver |
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The similarities are something to look at, and are a good
starting point, but they don't prove anything, no more than the similarities in machines and computers prove that they evolved from each other. Look at things in the reef, many things at a casual observance from a novice would think that they were the same, when a closer look shows them to be very different, and some things that look very different are actually more similar than those that look similar. If you were a Martian doing a study on how machines evolved from one another, some of the order of how you would say they evolved would be in the same order that they were created, but some of the things would be in no way the order that they were created. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:40 AM: Wayne Sallee wrote in news:44C8DC06.90900 @WayneSallee.com: atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:18 AM: Wayne Sallee wrote: The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern medicine, not the theory of evolution. How so? DaveZ Atom Weaver How so what? how so are we similar, or how so has our similarities helped modern medicine? Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets How does the fact that we are similar to animals _not_ help the theory of evolution? DaveZ Atom Weaver |
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I guess that depends on your definition of wierdos :-)
Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:50 AM: Nah, just pointing out how your only peers in the matter are fringe kooks, wierdos, and extremists of various shades. Its the character of who is _not_ accepting ToE which should concern you. For science, It (ToE) is "right", only because it works so incredibly well... DaveZ Atom Weaver |
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Ever played the telephone game in school Wayne? Going through person
after person it never comes out the same at the end of game. Wayne Sallee wrote: Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/26/2006 1:06 AM: You see, there is a whole world outthere that sees the bible for what it is worst. A bunch of papers translated from language to language that are most likely so transformed that it says the opposite of what they were intended. Don't believe everything your professors told you. Most translations go back to the original documents. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets -- Ric Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson |
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:02:37 GMT, Wayne Sallee
wrote: atomweaver wrote on 7/26/2006 9:19 AM: The scientific community's support for evolution is universal (we wouldn't have the fields of modern medicine and genetics without it... Are you getting a flu vaccine this year, Wayne? If so, thanks for your support of ToE... your dollars and actions speak far more than your anecdotes do). I'll only leave a pair of links for that angle. I think the hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed evolution-related articles in various scientific journals could also be considered support for ToE; The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern medicine, not the theory of evolution. And why are we similar to animals? (hint: learn something about evolution) LOL! |
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Most translations go back to the original documents.
If what you say was true, then the many different translations would vary greatly, and they would vary greatly over the years. But that is not the case. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets RicSeyler wrote on 7/27/2006 12:11 PM: Ever played the telephone game in school Wayne? Going through person after person it never comes out the same at the end of game. Wayne Sallee wrote: Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/26/2006 1:06 AM: You see, there is a whole world outthere that sees the bible for what it is worst. A bunch of papers translated from language to language that are most likely so transformed that it says the opposite of what they were intended. Don't believe everything your professors told you. Most translations go back to the original documents. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets |
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RicSeyler wrote on 7/27/2006 12:11 PM:
Ever played the telephone game in school Wayne? Going through person after person it never comes out the same at the end of game. Yea, by the time it got to me, it would be senseless, so I always created a new statement, and passed it on then everybody would be cracking up wondering how it go to that :-) hehehe And fish are a lot smarter than people give them credit for. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets |
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Wayne Sallee wrote in
: The similarities are something to look at, and are a good starting point, but they don't prove anything, no more than the similarities in machines and computers prove that they evolved from each other. But unlike machines, the fact that living things have heritable traits is common knowledge (you like like your parent's right? So does most everyone, and every thing, else), and here is why your machine analogy fails so miserably and obviously. DNA is the vehicle by which heritable traits are pssed from one living organism to its offspring (a feature which machines obviusly lack). Taxonomy by physical similarities was a common practice of early scientists (they had little else to go on), and still has value today, inasmuch as living things with similar physical characteristics are likely (not guaranteed, see convergent evolution) to be somehow related. But you are right, proof does not come from a single example of physical similarity. Fortunately, commonality of genetic material serves to _heavily_ reinforce with additional evidence that which was previously posited upon appearance alone. Look at things in the reef, many things at a casual observance from a novice would think that they were the same, when a closer look shows them to be very different, and some things that look very different are actually more similar than those that look similar. This shows that a novice simply doesn't know what he's looking for. Hell, even experienced professionals will adjust taxonomies frequently, on the basis of additional gathered evidence. That's a large part of the value of scientific theory over dogmatic scripture. This month's TFH has an article on exactly how such evidence was used to assign the chanchito (sp?) a different species name, IIRC. One small improvement to the theory... All of this merely means that the task of properly tracking heritable traits is a complex one, not that the task is impossible (in fact, genetics makes the taks much easier and more accurate) More ToE at work; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2005/08/06/AR2005080600849.html Can you link me to any recent research that Creationists have done, to find support for their various assertions in the physical world (evidence in _support_ of their claims, not just attempts to discredit evolution)? If you were a Martian doing a study on how machines evolved from one another, some of the order of how you would say they evolved would be in the same order that they were created, but some of the things would be in no way the order that they were created. If I were a Martian doing such a study, I would be doing it with the pre-supposition that machines had the ability to pass on heritable traits to one another, and thus would be a very stupid Martian. If I were an Earthling doing the same study on _living_ things, which I had _observed_ to pass on heritable traits, I would be going about things in a much more intelligent way. I'd probably also be searching for the mechanism by which those traits are passed along. Saaay... those Earthlings are pretty smart critters (well, some of them, anyways). Regards, DaveZ |
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atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 1:08 PM:
But unlike machines, the fact that living things have heritable traits is common knowledge (you like like your parent's right? So does most everyone, and every thing, else), and here is why your machine analogy fails so miserably and obviously. DNA is the vehicle by which heritable traits are pssed from one living organism to its offspring (a feature which machines obviusly lack). Good point, DNA tells everything about the creature, it is the instructions for the cells, on how to grow, and everything else. It's like with computer programing, I prefer assembly language/machine language, because machine language is the only language that the computer chip understands. To me, programing in machine language, is like changing the DNA of a fish, while programing in other languages is like breeding the fish to get the characteristics you want. DNA has done wonders in the criminal justis system, and in science, it still does not prove that one creature evolved from another any more than if I write a computer program, and then write another computer program using much of the same code. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets |
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Wayne Sallee wrote in
: DNA has done wonders in the criminal justis system, and in science, it still does not prove that one creature evolved from another any more than if I write a computer program, and then write another computer program using much of the same code. Patently false. Myriad examples of contemporary speciation exist; http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html speciation examples in section 5.0 http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html Most all can be verified by documented alterations in genetic material... DaveZ Atom Weaver |
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You can take guppies or other fish, and breed them to get
them the way you want them in color and fin pattern, but you can only go so far, and you start running into problems with defects such as sterility. There is some cross breeding that people can do, but again there are limits, and often sterility. It's like there's a wall that keeps you from going too far. Everything has it's limits. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 1:50 PM: Wayne Sallee wrote in : DNA has done wonders in the criminal justis system, and in science, it still does not prove that one creature evolved from another any more than if I write a computer program, and then write another computer program using much of the same code. Patently false. Myriad examples of contemporary speciation exist; http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html speciation examples in section 5.0 http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html Most all can be verified by documented alterations in genetic material... DaveZ Atom Weaver |
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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ...
Nothing new about that. People have been doing that for many years on the farm. So now compare this to your fish recognising the fridge opening. |
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This one: ...
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... What question? Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets Pszemol wrote on 7/25/2006 9:37 PM: "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... What question? The one you cut off the bottom of my previous message. |
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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ...
Most translations go back to the original documents. It is not true. I bet many european languages like German, English, French were translated from the Latin version, not from the original Hebrew/Aramaic... And even so - each translating person/team will have different "flavor" added to the translation... It is impossible to translate word-to-word from one language to another, especially so different languages as English and Hebrew... Do an experiment: Try to do modern text translation from English to German, hire two different translators, then get two Germant versions of the same English text and compare them word-by-word. I bet they will be different. Then hire another two translators and ask them to translate these two German copies back to English - you will be amazed what will you do in return. If what you say was true, then the many different translations would vary greatly, and they would vary greatly over the years. But that is not the case. They DO vary greatly. |
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atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 3:39 PM: Wayne Sallee wrote in : You can take guppies or other fish, and breed them to get them the way you want them in color and fin pattern, but you can only go so far, and you start running into problems with defects such as sterility. We talked about aquarium breeders before, Wayne. They don't compare at all to strains in nature. 1. How wide is a breeder's selection of genetic stock, as compared to that of nature? If the richest breeder in the world put all of his resources into one common fish variety (sya, guppies, per your example), he couldn't get get one millionth of the variety of genetic stock available in nature... Not true, many creatures can be raised in such numbers that they would never come in contact with in the wild. 2. What impact does the artificial selection process of the breeder have on the longevity of that genetic stock, as compared to the selection process outlined by natural selection? As you yourself pointed out above, breeders don't select for the species most fit to survive to a reproductive age (and then let them breed), they cull based on colorforms, size, finnage, etc, call them "sellable" traits, and work to "fix" those sellable traits, by cross and inter-breeding lines. Thats not the same process as Dear ol' Mother Nature, at all. Sure it is, it's survival of the fittest. Those that are not as fit get sold to pet stores. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets |
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The "original documents" were compiled from stories passed down through
generations.... Wayne Sallee wrote: Most translations go back to the original documents. If what you say was true, then the many different translations would vary greatly, and they would vary greatly over the years. But that is not the case. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets -- Ric Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson |
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I always use that as a proof that humans come from one cell. That it is
possible, that we can see it everyday... Then again, what is evolution? Because humans and all animals for that matter come from a unicellular organism is why our development include that fact. While embryon development is not evolution, it exists because evolution happened. iy "Wilbur Slice" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:06:25 -0400, "Inabón Yunes" wrote: For God's sake Wayne, you are taking fire from everywhere dude! You see, go to church to talk about this, is the only place they'll belief you blindfolded. Here, hehehe, well, you can't take anymore beating. When I first entered this NG I was under the impression that you knew a little about something, at this point I am not sure how you made it thru high school. You see, there is a whole world outthere that sees the bible for what it is worst. A bunch of papers translated from language to language that are most likely so transformed that it says the opposite of what they were intended. For example, the bible says that the Israelites were the chosen people, apparently they were the chosen ones alright but to be punish by God for eternity. For 5,000 years their people had done nothing but suffer. Even today a few descendants of David died at the hands of the descendants of Goliath. See, they were the chosen people to get screwed over millennia... Do you still belief LITERALLY in the bible? Evolution rules dude! Just watch a zygote, unicellular, transform in 9 months into a human being. Ummm... I am an evolutionist, to be sure. Creationism is simple mided ignorant foolishness. But the development of a zygote into a human being is *not* evolution. Has nothing to do with it. |
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Yeah?
Where is the original document? iy "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/26/2006 1:06 AM: You see, there is a whole world outthere that sees the bible for what it is worst. A bunch of papers translated from language to language that are most likely so transformed that it says the opposite of what they were intended. Don't believe everything your professors told you. Most translations go back to the original documents. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets |
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Not only is that the case, you know it but your faith won't let you remember
it. Where are the original documents? iy "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... Most translations go back to the original documents. If what you say was true, then the many different translations would vary greatly, and they would vary greatly over the years. But that is not the case. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets RicSeyler wrote on 7/27/2006 12:11 PM: Ever played the telephone game in school Wayne? Going through person after person it never comes out the same at the end of game. Wayne Sallee wrote: Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/26/2006 1:06 AM: You see, there is a whole world outthere that sees the bible for what it is worst. A bunch of papers translated from language to language that are most likely so transformed that it says the opposite of what they were intended. Don't believe everything your professors told you. Most translations go back to the original documents. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets |
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Well Wayne, I knew better than to comment in your posts. I was stupid
enough to try to bring reason to an ignorant christian republican. You guys make up the lowest class of the American society. In the future, our descendants are going to make jokes of people that use to say things like the ones you say. Yeap! in the same way we laugh when read about Europeans threatening to kill Gallileo for saying that the sun, not the Earth, was the center of our solar system. In the same way in a few hundred years, people are going to laugh at those that belief in creationism. I give up! iy "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... The similarities are something to look at, and are a good starting point, but they don't prove anything, no more than the similarities in machines and computers prove that they evolved from each other. Look at things in the reef, many things at a casual observance from a novice would think that they were the same, when a closer look shows them to be very different, and some things that look very different are actually more similar than those that look similar. If you were a Martian doing a study on how machines evolved from one another, some of the order of how you would say they evolved would be in the same order that they were created, but some of the things would be in no way the order that they were created. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:40 AM: Wayne Sallee wrote in news:44C8DC06.90900 @WayneSallee.com: atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:18 AM: Wayne Sallee wrote: The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern medicine, not the theory of evolution. How so? DaveZ Atom Weaver How so what? how so are we similar, or how so has our similarities helped modern medicine? Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets How does the fact that we are similar to animals _not_ help the theory of evolution? DaveZ Atom Weaver |
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I HAVE YOUR ANSWER.
FISH ARE SMARTER THAN THE PEOPLE WRITING IN THESE POSTINGS, WHO BELIEVE THEY KNOW EVERYTHING BUT HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. THIS THREAD IS NOTHING BUT A P'SING CONTEST WHICH EVERYBODY LOST AT START. FOR CRYING ALOUD STOP THE NONSENSE AND FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL NEWSGROUP: FISH. PLEASE, DON'T BOTHER REPLYING UNLESS YOU ARE A FISH. "Pszemol" wrote in message ... I have a problem... in my huge wisom I have covered a side wall of the fishtank with a mirror-foil. Just to cover the unpleasant view behind of the tank... and to get some more light reflected back. Today I let the fish in this new tank... A pair of maroon clowns and hepatus tang get crazy seeing their own reflection in the tank wall. Now my title question: will they realize this is just a mirror soon or they will continue to fight the other fish in the mirror? How smart are they ? It is difficult to take the foil off since it is in a tight space between the tank and room wall... First day I turned off the lights sooner and wonder what will the group advice be... Should I go trought the trouble of removing the foil or the fish will get used to this reflection soon ? If so, how soon will it be ? |
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"RubenD" wrote in message t...
I HAVE YOUR ANSWER. FISH ARE SMARTER THAN THE PEOPLE WRITING IN THESE POSTINGS, WHO BELIEVE THEY KNOW EVERYTHING BUT HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. THIS THREAD IS NOTHING BUT A P'SING CONTEST WHICH EVERYBODY LOST AT START. FOR CRYING ALOUD STOP THE NONSENSE AND FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL NEWSGROUP: FISH. PLEASE, DON'T BOTHER REPLYING UNLESS YOU ARE A FISH. Your Outlook Express has a magical function called "Ignore thread". You can use it for threads you are not interested in... Do it, instead trying to influence what we want to do here, ok? :-) |
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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ...
Pszemol wrote on 7/27/2006 2:42 PM: This one: ... I'm going to assume that you don't know what you are typing. Why? Link did not work for you ? |
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hehe nope, I don't subscribe to that news group server,
and even if I did, it still might not do anything productive. It did add a stupid additional nonoperational account that I had to delete to get it out of my way, thank you :-) Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets Pszemol wrote on 7/28/2006 1:27 PM: "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... Pszemol wrote on 7/27/2006 2:42 PM: This one: ... I'm going to assume that you don't know what you are typing. Why? Link did not work for you ? |
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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ...
hehe nope, I don't subscribe to that news group server, and even if I did, it still might not do anything productive. It did add a stupid additional nonoperational account that I had to delete to get it out of my way, thank you :-) Looks like you Thunderbird does not understand proper links to the newsgroups articles (the link was to the article on you DEFAULT server not to the server itself). Try this then: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...d2454f6138af6d |
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No, the link was for "poczta.onet.pl". That's the
newsgroup server that you are using. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets Pszemol wrote on 7/28/2006 3:00 PM: "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... hehe nope, I don't subscribe to that news group server, and even if I did, it still might not do anything productive. It did add a stupid additional nonoperational account that I had to delete to get it out of my way, thank you :-) Looks like you Thunderbird does not understand proper links to the newsgroups articles (the link was to the article on you DEFAULT server not to the server itself). Try this then: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...d2454f6138af6d |
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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ...
No, the link was for "poczta.onet.pl". That's the newsgroup server that you are using. You are incorrect again, but this is not the point of this conversation. Are you going to answer my question or you pass ? |
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I just now did via e-mail. This thread is getting a bit
old for the newsgroup. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets Pszemol wrote on 7/28/2006 4:19 PM: "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... No, the link was for "poczta.onet.pl". That's the newsgroup server that you are using. You are incorrect again, but this is not the point of this conversation. Are you going to answer my question or you pass ? |
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It gets even worst!
The "originals" were actually written in Greek which, at the time, was the official written language. Or they use they Greek alphabets. Remember, Paul to mention one, was a Roman... iy "Pszemol" wrote in message ... "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... Most translations go back to the original documents. It is not true. I bet many european languages like German, English, French were translated from the Latin version, not from the original Hebrew/Aramaic... And even so - each translating person/team will have different "flavor" added to the translation... It is impossible to translate word-to-word from one language to another, especially so different languages as English and Hebrew... Do an experiment: Try to do modern text translation from English to German, hire two different translators, then get two Germant versions of the same English text and compare them word-by-word. I bet they will be different. Then hire another two translators and ask them to translate these two German copies back to English - you will be amazed what will you do in return. If what you say was true, then the many different translations would vary greatly, and they would vary greatly over the years. But that is not the case. They DO vary greatly. |
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Agree 110%
iy "RubenD" wrote in message t... I HAVE YOUR ANSWER. FISH ARE SMARTER THAN THE PEOPLE WRITING IN THESE POSTINGS, WHO BELIEVE THEY KNOW EVERYTHING BUT HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. THIS THREAD IS NOTHING BUT A P'SING CONTEST WHICH EVERYBODY LOST AT START. FOR CRYING ALOUD STOP THE NONSENSE AND FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL NEWSGROUP: FISH. PLEASE, DON'T BOTHER REPLYING UNLESS YOU ARE A FISH. "Pszemol" wrote in message ... I have a problem... in my huge wisom I have covered a side wall of the fishtank with a mirror-foil. Just to cover the unpleasant view behind of the tank... and to get some more light reflected back. Today I let the fish in this new tank... A pair of maroon clowns and hepatus tang get crazy seeing their own reflection in the tank wall. Now my title question: will they realize this is just a mirror soon or they will continue to fight the other fish in the mirror? How smart are they ? It is difficult to take the foil off since it is in a tight space between the tank and room wall... First day I turned off the lights sooner and wonder what will the group advice be... Should I go trought the trouble of removing the foil or the fish will get used to this reflection soon ? If so, how soon will it be ? |
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I beginning to think that fish are smarter than all you guys arguing :-) God , no God.
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What internet provider do you use? Do they not provide
newsgroups? Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets billyguy68 wrote on 7/29/2006 11:19 AM: All of this has NOTHING to do with my reef aquarium. My daily digest emails are worthless. I don't want to read a bunch of name calling and pointless argueing. Is there someway I can filter these posting's to only see the one's that are on the topic of the group -Aquariums??? Wayne Sallee wrote: I just now did via e-mail. This thread is getting a bit old for the newsgroup. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets Pszemol wrote on 7/28/2006 4:19 PM: "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ... No, the link was for "poczta.onet.pl". That's the newsgroup server that you are using. You are incorrect again, but this is not the point of this conversation. Are you going to answer my question or you pass ? |
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