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John A. Kostelac April 25th 04 06:47 AM

Toads
 
I have only one pic of it just now. It is at www.johnkostelac.com. My wife
shot it.


"Nedra" wrote in message
ink.net...
John,
Your pond sounds soo enticing and interesting. Got any pictures
you can put up? On a freebie website of course.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"John A. Kostelac" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all.

What's the deal with bull frogs? One response mentioned them. Are they

worse
than the toads?

As for chemistry, I am not too concerned about chem changes. I can't

seem
to
get the chemistry t ever move for any reason. We have a slightly

different
pond than I have read about on the list. About five years ago we put in

a
scuba diving swimming pool. It is 13 feet deep and comes to close to

50,000
gallons. After a duck invasion we converted part of the shallow area to

bog
filter/shallow fish and plant area leaving about 44,000 gallons for the

fish
and us to swim in. It has really livened up scuba practice. The

chemistry
has always been odd, but steady as a rock.

pH ~ 8.8 -9.0
ammonia=0
nitrite=0
nitrate=max 20ppm
TA=250
KH300
salt=0.06%

We have a huge variety of fish from koi to pacu to angels, including
guppies, goldfish, gourami's, tiger barbs, clown barbs, 10 very large

plecos
(no string algae ever), tin foil barbs (large), sword tails (millions of
babies), water striders (not invited), two small red eared sliders, and
occasionally 3 humans. We turn the pond over via waterfall and 240 watts

UV
about 3 times a day. Additionally we have a large particle filter

systems
that runs all the water through in about 3 days and a diatomaceous earth

(60
sqft) filter that turns the pond over 3 times a day. Add to this a

booster
pump that pushes about 8000 GPH in a nice circle around the main bowl of

the
pool to provide current. The net is clear water kept at 77F all year

round.
Total aquatic fun.

I have been trying to convince the pH to come down to about 8.0 for the

last
4 weeks to no avail. I have been adding about 20 oz muriatic acid each
evening to one of the treatment tanks that all the water passes through.
Again, not budging. Neither is the TA. But everyone eats and plays and

grows
and BREEDS like mad. Even the tiger barbs were observed scattering eggs
(though none hatched that we could tell). So that ends up a minor worry.

I
had tried a large bale of peat and running the pond water over it to see

if
it would lower the pH, but after 3 weeks I saw no diff. Any ideas

anyone?

Thanks,

John


"John A. Kostelac" wrote in message
...
The last few nights have seen an increase in vocal activity around our

pond.
Last night, it started to lose its beauty about 3 AM. I went out and

in
a
matter of 2 minutes counted a dozen and a half gulf coast toads

(Houston,
TX). This morning the hornwort is covered with strings of eggs. On the

one
hand this would indicate a healthy environment. On the other it likely
indicates that we will be inundated with toads. Any natural

suggestions
for
toad and tadpole control?

Thanks, John









jammer April 25th 04 07:08 AM

Toads
 

The toadpoles here in the house hatched about an hour ago. (Counted 7
so far) That was 4 days after laying. Wow. I also spotted a mystery
creature in the aquarium. I saw it only for 2 seconds and it's either
a teeny new born fish or a damsel fly nymph. Time will tell. Right now
it is near invisable.

If i had a good flashlight handy i would go look in the pond, but
will hold out until tomorrow to see if those eggs also hatched.

I love spring.

jammer April 25th 04 07:08 AM

Toads
 

The toadpoles here in the house hatched about an hour ago. (Counted 7
so far) That was 4 days after laying. Wow. I also spotted a mystery
creature in the aquarium. I saw it only for 2 seconds and it's either
a teeny new born fish or a damsel fly nymph. Time will tell. Right now
it is near invisable.

If i had a good flashlight handy i would go look in the pond, but
will hold out until tomorrow to see if those eggs also hatched.

I love spring.

Offbreed April 25th 04 02:19 PM

Toads
 
John A. Kostelac wrote:

I have only one pic of it just now. It is at www.johnkostelac.com. My wife
shot it.


Sounds a little extreme.


Offbreed April 25th 04 02:19 PM

Toads
 
John A. Kostelac wrote:

I have only one pic of it just now. It is at www.johnkostelac.com. My wife
shot it.


Sounds a little extreme.


Nedra April 25th 04 05:13 PM

Toads
 
Thanks to your wife, John! Stunning picture. Please take more..

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"John A. Kostelac" wrote in message
...
I have only one pic of it just now. It is at www.johnkostelac.com. My wife
shot it.


"Nedra" wrote in message
ink.net...
John,
Your pond sounds soo enticing and interesting. Got any pictures
you can put up? On a freebie website of course.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"John A. Kostelac" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all.

What's the deal with bull frogs? One response mentioned them. Are they

worse
than the toads?

As for chemistry, I am not too concerned about chem changes. I can't

seem
to
get the chemistry t ever move for any reason. We have a slightly

different
pond than I have read about on the list. About five years ago we put

in
a
scuba diving swimming pool. It is 13 feet deep and comes to close to

50,000
gallons. After a duck invasion we converted part of the shallow area

to
bog
filter/shallow fish and plant area leaving about 44,000 gallons for

the
fish
and us to swim in. It has really livened up scuba practice. The

chemistry
has always been odd, but steady as a rock.

pH ~ 8.8 -9.0
ammonia=0
nitrite=0
nitrate=max 20ppm
TA=250
KH300
salt=0.06%

We have a huge variety of fish from koi to pacu to angels, including
guppies, goldfish, gourami's, tiger barbs, clown barbs, 10 very large

plecos
(no string algae ever), tin foil barbs (large), sword tails (millions

of
babies), water striders (not invited), two small red eared sliders,

and
occasionally 3 humans. We turn the pond over via waterfall and 240

watts
UV
about 3 times a day. Additionally we have a large particle filter

systems
that runs all the water through in about 3 days and a diatomaceous

earth
(60
sqft) filter that turns the pond over 3 times a day. Add to this a

booster
pump that pushes about 8000 GPH in a nice circle around the main bowl

of
the
pool to provide current. The net is clear water kept at 77F all year

round.
Total aquatic fun.

I have been trying to convince the pH to come down to about 8.0 for

the
last
4 weeks to no avail. I have been adding about 20 oz muriatic acid each
evening to one of the treatment tanks that all the water passes

through.
Again, not budging. Neither is the TA. But everyone eats and plays and

grows
and BREEDS like mad. Even the tiger barbs were observed scattering

eggs
(though none hatched that we could tell). So that ends up a minor

worry.
I
had tried a large bale of peat and running the pond water over it to

see
if
it would lower the pH, but after 3 weeks I saw no diff. Any ideas

anyone?

Thanks,

John


"John A. Kostelac" wrote in message
...
The last few nights have seen an increase in vocal activity around

our
pond.
Last night, it started to lose its beauty about 3 AM. I went out and

in
a
matter of 2 minutes counted a dozen and a half gulf coast toads

(Houston,
TX). This morning the hornwort is covered with strings of eggs. On

the
one
hand this would indicate a healthy environment. On the other it

likely
indicates that we will be inundated with toads. Any natural

suggestions
for
toad and tadpole control?

Thanks, John











Nedra April 25th 04 05:13 PM

Toads
 
Thanks to your wife, John! Stunning picture. Please take more..

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"John A. Kostelac" wrote in message
...
I have only one pic of it just now. It is at www.johnkostelac.com. My wife
shot it.


"Nedra" wrote in message
ink.net...
John,
Your pond sounds soo enticing and interesting. Got any pictures
you can put up? On a freebie website of course.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"John A. Kostelac" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all.

What's the deal with bull frogs? One response mentioned them. Are they

worse
than the toads?

As for chemistry, I am not too concerned about chem changes. I can't

seem
to
get the chemistry t ever move for any reason. We have a slightly

different
pond than I have read about on the list. About five years ago we put

in
a
scuba diving swimming pool. It is 13 feet deep and comes to close to

50,000
gallons. After a duck invasion we converted part of the shallow area

to
bog
filter/shallow fish and plant area leaving about 44,000 gallons for

the
fish
and us to swim in. It has really livened up scuba practice. The

chemistry
has always been odd, but steady as a rock.

pH ~ 8.8 -9.0
ammonia=0
nitrite=0
nitrate=max 20ppm
TA=250
KH300
salt=0.06%

We have a huge variety of fish from koi to pacu to angels, including
guppies, goldfish, gourami's, tiger barbs, clown barbs, 10 very large

plecos
(no string algae ever), tin foil barbs (large), sword tails (millions

of
babies), water striders (not invited), two small red eared sliders,

and
occasionally 3 humans. We turn the pond over via waterfall and 240

watts
UV
about 3 times a day. Additionally we have a large particle filter

systems
that runs all the water through in about 3 days and a diatomaceous

earth
(60
sqft) filter that turns the pond over 3 times a day. Add to this a

booster
pump that pushes about 8000 GPH in a nice circle around the main bowl

of
the
pool to provide current. The net is clear water kept at 77F all year

round.
Total aquatic fun.

I have been trying to convince the pH to come down to about 8.0 for

the
last
4 weeks to no avail. I have been adding about 20 oz muriatic acid each
evening to one of the treatment tanks that all the water passes

through.
Again, not budging. Neither is the TA. But everyone eats and plays and

grows
and BREEDS like mad. Even the tiger barbs were observed scattering

eggs
(though none hatched that we could tell). So that ends up a minor

worry.
I
had tried a large bale of peat and running the pond water over it to

see
if
it would lower the pH, but after 3 weeks I saw no diff. Any ideas

anyone?

Thanks,

John


"John A. Kostelac" wrote in message
...
The last few nights have seen an increase in vocal activity around

our
pond.
Last night, it started to lose its beauty about 3 AM. I went out and

in
a
matter of 2 minutes counted a dozen and a half gulf coast toads

(Houston,
TX). This morning the hornwort is covered with strings of eggs. On

the
one
hand this would indicate a healthy environment. On the other it

likely
indicates that we will be inundated with toads. Any natural

suggestions
for
toad and tadpole control?

Thanks, John











matrix April 25th 04 07:41 PM

Toads
 
Im in Corpus and used to have the same problem until my koi got over two
feet.

Now the eggs get consumed as soon as they are laid FREE caviar!. Lol

But I still have over 20 toads doing the mating game after every rain
storm


matrix April 25th 04 07:41 PM

Toads
 
Im in Corpus and used to have the same problem until my koi got over two
feet.

Now the eggs get consumed as soon as they are laid FREE caviar!. Lol

But I still have over 20 toads doing the mating game after every rain
storm


John A. Kostelac April 26th 04 03:37 AM

Toads
 
I noticed that we now have tadpoles, but I can't find any eggs. I guess
somebody in there liked the free meal.

John

"matrix" wrote in message
...
Im in Corpus and used to have the same problem until my koi got over two
feet.

Now the eggs get consumed as soon as they are laid FREE caviar!. Lol

But I still have over 20 toads doing the mating game after every rain
storm





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