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Shagster April 29th 05 01:54 AM

96 Watts.

"js1" wrote in message
...
On 2005-04-28, Troy Bruder wrote:
It's a 29 Gallon tank, with CO2 injection right into the intake of my
Fluval
204 canister filter.. I have a Turbo Twist 6x UV driven by a Quiet One
1200
pump...


How much lighting do you have in the 29G?

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js1 April 29th 05 02:04 AM

On 2005-04-29, Shagster wrote:
96 Watts.


Yeah, I use 65W on my 29G, and it's really managable. You may just need
to stock more plants.

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"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman


Elaine T April 29th 05 02:42 AM

js1 wrote:
On 2005-04-29, Shagster wrote:

96 Watts.



Yeah, I use 65W on my 29G, and it's really managable. You may just need
to stock more plants.

I had 60W of Tritons over a 29G and found it very managable too. If you
don't have tremendously high light plants, I wonder if dropping the
light a bit wouldn't help? Unless you're trying to grow submerged
riccia or something, I don't know that you need that much light. I was
growing bright red Rotala macrantha with no problems.

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[email protected] April 29th 05 03:36 AM

O)kay, you have 96 watt of PC lighting over a small tank, you add CO2,
is this DIY or a Gas tank system?

Either way, you need to make certain you have good high CO2 during the
light cycle. 25-30ppm.

As far as nutrients etc, adding them will not help nor hurt the algae.
The UV should work fine, but something is wrong, most likely the bulb.
Get a new one.

In the meantime, don't worry, the algae will not hurt the plants, nor
cause any problems, nor be going anywhere.

Just be patient.

After wards, the UV will roast the algae and this will not be a problem
in the future again.

Nutrient routine:
1/4 teaspoon KNO3, 1/16" KH2PO4 3x aweek
5mls of Trace mix, 3x a week.
50% weekly water change.

Vacuum up any mulm/detritus and clean the equipment etc.
Your tank will be very clean inside a couple of weeks and adding the
new light will top things off.

Add light for 10 hours.

Regards,
Tom Barr


3rd annual Plant Fest July 8-14th 2005!
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Shagster April 30th 05 03:31 AM

Tom,

Thank you VERY much.. Right now, I have black algae all over the plants...
You think it will go away?? Also, you mention 5ml of "Trace" mix.. Can you
recommend one?

THANKS!
Troy

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oups.com...
O)kay, you have 96 watt of PC lighting over a small tank, you add CO2,
is this DIY or a Gas tank system?

Either way, you need to make certain you have good high CO2 during the
light cycle. 25-30ppm.

As far as nutrients etc, adding them will not help nor hurt the algae.
The UV should work fine, but something is wrong, most likely the bulb.
Get a new one.

In the meantime, don't worry, the algae will not hurt the plants, nor
cause any problems, nor be going anywhere.

Just be patient.

After wards, the UV will roast the algae and this will not be a problem
in the future again.

Nutrient routine:
1/4 teaspoon KNO3, 1/16" KH2PO4 3x aweek
5mls of Trace mix, 3x a week.
50% weekly water change.

Vacuum up any mulm/detritus and clean the equipment etc.
Your tank will be very clean inside a couple of weeks and adding the
new light will top things off.

Add light for 10 hours.

Regards,
Tom Barr


3rd annual Plant Fest July 8-14th 2005!
Get connected
www.BarrReport.com Get the information




Shagster April 30th 05 03:33 AM

Actually, my plant stock is LOW... I'm thinking of removing everything with
black algae on it, cleaning all of the mulm, then doing a massing
replanting...

THANKS!
Troy

"js1" wrote in message
...
On 2005-04-29, Shagster wrote:
96 Watts.


Yeah, I use 65W on my 29G, and it's really managable. You may just need
to stock more plants.

--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman




Elaine T April 30th 05 05:16 AM

Shagster wrote:
Actually, my plant stock is LOW... I'm thinking of removing everything with
black algae on it, cleaning all of the mulm, then doing a massing
replanting...

THANKS!
Troy


You need SAE to eat the black algae. Here's how to ID the fish.
http://www.thekrib.com/Fish/Algae-Eaters/ They're almost magical in
their ablity to gradually clear the stuff out.

"js1" wrote in message
...

On 2005-04-29, Shagster wrote:

96 Watts.


Yeah, I use 65W on my 29G, and it's really managable. You may just need
to stock more plants.

--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman






--
Elaine T __
http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__
rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com

js1 April 30th 05 08:58 PM

On 2005-04-30, Shagster wrote:
Actually, my plant stock is LOW... I'm thinking of removing everything with
black algae on it, cleaning all of the mulm, then doing a massing
replanting...


The trick with SAE is not to feed them. That way, they will start
looking for algae to eat instead of waiting for food. Maybe supplement
their diet by feeding them once a week with algae wafers, but you just
don't want them becoming dependent on your feeding. This is harder
to do when you have other fish in the tank.

--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman


[email protected] April 30th 05 09:30 PM

No, the BBA will not go away on it's own, it will stop growing if you
add ample CO2, then it will no longer spread and new plant growth will
appear.

So trim it off.
Add fresh plants if you need to trim off a lot.
Keep the plant biomass up and the algae low.

Bleaching is often suggested, but ther leaves look like crap afterwards
and really don't recover well and offer no good support contribution
for the plant.

Beeter and easier to trim them off, replant with new plants and wait
for the new growth to come in and then phase out cheapy plants.

Next time, don't allow the tank to get that bad before you decide to
treat and fix the issue.
I know you did not know this to start with, but now you'll know what to
do and how to do it.

Then it becomes old hat and the same old thing over and over.

TMG or Flourish are the two best Traces I feel. Sort of a subjective
endorsement though.

Regards,
Tom Barr


Shagster May 1st 05 03:04 AM

I have TWO of 'em.... Not the "fake" ones either... They ARE cleaning the
leaves... Since 5 straight days of water changes, plus manual cleaning of
the plants, things are looking MUCH better.


"js1" wrote in message
...
On 2005-04-30, Shagster wrote:
Actually, my plant stock is LOW... I'm thinking of removing everything
with
black algae on it, cleaning all of the mulm, then doing a massing
replanting...


The trick with SAE is not to feed them. That way, they will start
looking for algae to eat instead of waiting for food. Maybe supplement
their diet by feeding them once a week with algae wafers, but you just
don't want them becoming dependent on your feeding. This is harder
to do when you have other fish in the tank.

--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman





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