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Mark Cooper October 7th 05 03:37 PM

"Pszemol" wrote in
:

"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
...
You ask too much. Methink you have to relax, I just read about
something that happened to a person here and commented on it because
is related to what I am working on. YOU WERE NEVER MY INTEREST, nor
will be, lol. Is that too hard for you to understand?


Its a pity you do not get what a discussion forum or newsgroup is...
Try to understand I wanted to open you eyes on the fact that your
statements were worthless. You do with this gift whatever you want :-)

First, you post with a pseudonym,


What pseudonym ?
This is my name... Is this a problem for you, son ?

second you want to know more than what you can handle...

Relax son, you can't handle much!


Don't you worry about how much I can handle...
The true problem is you have nothing to say :-)
And this is why your emotional response is here...


Pszemol, you're wasting your time on this troll.
Repeat after me: plonk


Jaime R-S October 9th 05 02:33 AM

Good lord!
I commented on someone's experience and now I get insulted by two (if not
the same) different persons I don't even know. Neither of both I was
talking to.

Well my friend, now that you addressed me, lol, let me tell you that the
nitrites problem had been solved and my aquarium is running at 0.15mg/L of
NO2 WITHOUT WATER CHANGE for more than a month.

Other readings to be concerned are
NH3 = 0.3 mg/L
CaCO3 = 400 mg/L
NO3 = 20 mg/L
PH = 8.3
KH = 110

all at a 78 F/ 1.024 S.G.

I had a little setback on nitrites but I figured out how to solve it.

I already said this is a prototype and the size and other specs I keep to
myself.

But, I have to say that the aquarium had been checked by possible buyers and
I already have my investment paid.

Don't fool yourself, it is possible to have an inexpensive salt water
aquarium without the extraordinary cost of today's maintenance.

You guys are just ****ed because someone came up with an idea you CAN'T
UNDERSTAND. Next time you go to buy salr or sal****er, lol, think of me...

jrs

"Mark Cooper" wrote in message
.. .
"Pszemol" wrote in
:

"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
...
You ask too much. Methink you have to relax, I just read about
something that happened to a person here and commented on it because
is related to what I am working on. YOU WERE NEVER MY INTEREST, nor
will be, lol. Is that too hard for you to understand?


Its a pity you do not get what a discussion forum or newsgroup is...
Try to understand I wanted to open you eyes on the fact that your
statements were worthless. You do with this gift whatever you want :-)

First, you post with a pseudonym,


What pseudonym ?
This is my name... Is this a problem for you, son ?

second you want to know more than what you can handle...

Relax son, you can't handle much!


Don't you worry about how much I can handle...
The true problem is you have nothing to say :-)
And this is why your emotional response is here...


Pszemol, you're wasting your time on this troll.
Repeat after me: plonk




Pszemol October 9th 05 03:22 PM

"Jaime R-S" wrote in message ...
Good lord!
I commented on someone's experience and now I get insulted by two (if not
the same) different persons I don't even know. Neither of both I was
talking to.


Remember: you are writing to the whole newsgroup.
Whole group of people reading you and have equal right to respond.
This is the whole idea of a newsgroup. If you were ment to send
a private message to a particular group member, send e-mail only
to him, not to the whole newsgroup or dont be surprised that
someone has a comment to your comment :-))

Well my friend, now that you addressed me, lol, let me tell you that the
nitrites problem had been solved and my aquarium is running at 0.15mg/L of
NO2 WITHOUT WATER CHANGE for more than a month.


WOW... Whole month without a water change ? That is impressive! LOL :-)))))
BTW - that is quite sad you still detect nitrites after a month...

Other readings to be concerned are
NH3 = 0.3 mg/L
CaCO3 = 400 mg/L
NO3 = 20 mg/L
PH = 8.3
KH = 110

all at a 78 F/ 1.024 S.G.

I had a little setback on nitrites but I figured out how to solve it.


Yeah... wait for the cycle to end ? :-)

I already said this is a prototype and the size and other specs I keep to
myself.


You said enough to make me laugh :-)

But, I have to say that the aquarium had been checked by possible
buyers and I already have my investment paid.


:-)))

Don't fool yourself, it is possible to have an inexpensive salt water
aquarium without the extraordinary cost of today's maintenance.

You guys are just ****ed because someone came up with an idea you CAN'T
UNDERSTAND. Next time you go to buy salr or sal****er, lol, think of me...


My friend, you do not understand the nitrogen cycle in a fish tank...
You never need to change water because of ammonia or nitrites :-)
These are neutralized with biological filtration, and there is something
seriously wrong with your tank if ammonia and nitrites are still
detectable after a month of cycling with live rock and sand...
BTW - one month without water change is NOTHING SPECIAL OR UNUSUAL.
It is even recomended that during fish tank cycling you do not change
water for a month or two, to not disturb the cycle... But cycling
with live rock is usually flat if you use live rock cured already...

How do you feel re-inventing the wheel ? :-)))

Chris October 9th 05 04:57 PM

In a well setup tank the only reason to do a water change is to replace
trace elements, i usually go months without a water change
nitrate/nitrite/ammonia are 0...

Pszemol wrote:
"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
...

Good lord!
I commented on someone's experience and now I get insulted by two (if
not the same) different persons I don't even know. Neither of both I
was talking to.



Remember: you are writing to the whole newsgroup.
Whole group of people reading you and have equal right to respond.
This is the whole idea of a newsgroup. If you were ment to send
a private message to a particular group member, send e-mail only
to him, not to the whole newsgroup or dont be surprised that
someone has a comment to your comment :-))

Well my friend, now that you addressed me, lol, let me tell you that
the nitrites problem had been solved and my aquarium is running at
0.15mg/L of NO2 WITHOUT WATER CHANGE for more than a month.



WOW... Whole month without a water change ? That is impressive! LOL :-)))))
BTW - that is quite sad you still detect nitrites after a month...

Other readings to be concerned are
NH3 = 0.3 mg/L
CaCO3 = 400 mg/L
NO3 = 20 mg/L
PH = 8.3
KH = 110

all at a 78 F/ 1.024 S.G.

I had a little setback on nitrites but I figured out how to solve it.



Yeah... wait for the cycle to end ? :-)

I already said this is a prototype and the size and other specs I keep
to myself.



You said enough to make me laugh :-)

But, I have to say that the aquarium had been checked by possible
buyers and I already have my investment paid.



:-)))

Don't fool yourself, it is possible to have an inexpensive salt water
aquarium without the extraordinary cost of today's maintenance.

You guys are just ****ed because someone came up with an idea you
CAN'T UNDERSTAND. Next time you go to buy salr or sal****er, lol,
think of me...



My friend, you do not understand the nitrogen cycle in a fish tank...
You never need to change water because of ammonia or nitrites :-)
These are neutralized with biological filtration, and there is something
seriously wrong with your tank if ammonia and nitrites are still
detectable after a month of cycling with live rock and sand...
BTW - one month without water change is NOTHING SPECIAL OR UNUSUAL.
It is even recomended that during fish tank cycling you do not change
water for a month or two, to not disturb the cycle... But cycling
with live rock is usually flat if you use live rock cured already...

How do you feel re-inventing the wheel ? :-)))


Pszemol October 9th 05 06:11 PM

"Chris" wrote in message ...
In a well setup tank the only reason to do a water change is to replace
trace elements, i usually go months without a water change
nitrate/nitrite/ammonia are 0...


And this is a norm, nothing unusuall.
Of course, all these are not actual 0, they are just
not detectable with aquarium grade color drop tests.

Jaime R-S October 10th 05 03:31 AM

That is good to know
The only difference is that I am getting those numbers on an innexpensive
system.
The systems that I have seen that have the same diversity of fish, size and
light cost 3X more.
You see, is not that I am doing something new...
Is that my system is doing the same thing for much less!
BTW, is not just a month, the month started after the nitrogen cycle was
established.
Again, it is too much to tell but little motivation.
Is my system going to fail in a few more weeks?
probably!
I already have plans and counterplans to overcome every single setback
possible.

My first maintenance only cost me $20! and will only be necessary every
month.

Is there going to be water changes? I hope not but if it comes to it, I
already have an alternate plan.

You see, I am not starting now with this. I had been working in different
systems since my college years and after 10 years putting papers together, I
came out with something that was supposed to be for a wetland's sewage
treatment system.

Well, just keep asking and commenting but keep the insults to yourselves

Jaime
"Chris" wrote in message
...
In a well setup tank the only reason to do a water change is to replace
trace elements, i usually go months without a water change
nitrate/nitrite/ammonia are 0...

Pszemol wrote:
"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
...

Good lord!
I commented on someone's experience and now I get insulted by two (if
not the same) different persons I don't even know. Neither of both I
was talking to.



Remember: you are writing to the whole newsgroup.
Whole group of people reading you and have equal right to respond.
This is the whole idea of a newsgroup. If you were ment to send
a private message to a particular group member, send e-mail only
to him, not to the whole newsgroup or dont be surprised that
someone has a comment to your comment :-))

Well my friend, now that you addressed me, lol, let me tell you that the
nitrites problem had been solved and my aquarium is running at 0.15mg/L
of NO2 WITHOUT WATER CHANGE for more than a month.



WOW... Whole month without a water change ? That is impressive! LOL
:-)))))
BTW - that is quite sad you still detect nitrites after a month...

Other readings to be concerned are
NH3 = 0.3 mg/L
CaCO3 = 400 mg/L
NO3 = 20 mg/L
PH = 8.3
KH = 110

all at a 78 F/ 1.024 S.G.

I had a little setback on nitrites but I figured out how to solve it.



Yeah... wait for the cycle to end ? :-)

I already said this is a prototype and the size and other specs I keep
to myself.



You said enough to make me laugh :-)

But, I have to say that the aquarium had been checked by possible
buyers and I already have my investment paid.



:-)))

Don't fool yourself, it is possible to have an inexpensive salt water
aquarium without the extraordinary cost of today's maintenance.

You guys are just ****ed because someone came up with an idea you CAN'T
UNDERSTAND. Next time you go to buy salr or sal****er, lol, think of
me...



My friend, you do not understand the nitrogen cycle in a fish tank...
You never need to change water because of ammonia or nitrites :-)
These are neutralized with biological filtration, and there is something
seriously wrong with your tank if ammonia and nitrites are still
detectable after a month of cycling with live rock and sand...
BTW - one month without water change is NOTHING SPECIAL OR UNUSUAL.
It is even recomended that during fish tank cycling you do not change
water for a month or two, to not disturb the cycle... But cycling
with live rock is usually flat if you use live rock cured already...

How do you feel re-inventing the wheel ? :-)))




Wayne Sallee October 10th 05 04:10 PM

LOL this is just tooo funny :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Jaime R-S wrote:
That is good to know
The only difference is that I am getting those numbers on an innexpensive
system.
The systems that I have seen that have the same diversity of fish, size and
light cost 3X more.
You see, is not that I am doing something new...
Is that my system is doing the same thing for much less!
BTW, is not just a month, the month started after the nitrogen cycle was
established.
Again, it is too much to tell but little motivation.
Is my system going to fail in a few more weeks?
probably!
I already have plans and counterplans to overcome every single setback
possible.

My first maintenance only cost me $20! and will only be necessary every
month.

Is there going to be water changes? I hope not but if it comes to it, I
already have an alternate plan.

You see, I am not starting now with this. I had been working in different
systems since my college years and after 10 years putting papers together, I
came out with something that was supposed to be for a wetland's sewage
treatment system.

Well, just keep asking and commenting but keep the insults to yourselves

Jaime
"Chris" wrote in message
...

In a well setup tank the only reason to do a water change is to replace
trace elements, i usually go months without a water change
nitrate/nitrite/ammonia are 0...

Pszemol wrote:

"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
. ..


Good lord!
I commented on someone's experience and now I get insulted by two (if
not the same) different persons I don't even know. Neither of both I
was talking to.


Remember: you are writing to the whole newsgroup.
Whole group of people reading you and have equal right to respond.
This is the whole idea of a newsgroup. If you were ment to send
a private message to a particular group member, send e-mail only
to him, not to the whole newsgroup or dont be surprised that
someone has a comment to your comment :-))


Well my friend, now that you addressed me, lol, let me tell you that the
nitrites problem had been solved and my aquarium is running at 0.15mg/L
of NO2 WITHOUT WATER CHANGE for more than a month.


WOW... Whole month without a water change ? That is impressive! LOL
:-)))))
BTW - that is quite sad you still detect nitrites after a month...


Other readings to be concerned are
NH3 = 0.3 mg/L
CaCO3 = 400 mg/L
NO3 = 20 mg/L
PH = 8.3
KH = 110

all at a 78 F/ 1.024 S.G.

I had a little setback on nitrites but I figured out how to solve it.


Yeah... wait for the cycle to end ? :-)


I already said this is a prototype and the size and other specs I keep
to myself.


You said enough to make me laugh :-)


But, I have to say that the aquarium had been checked by possible
buyers and I already have my investment paid.


:-)))


Don't fool yourself, it is possible to have an inexpensive salt water
aquarium without the extraordinary cost of today's maintenance.

You guys are just ****ed because someone came up with an idea you CAN'T
UNDERSTAND. Next time you go to buy salr or sal****er, lol, think of
me...


My friend, you do not understand the nitrogen cycle in a fish tank...
You never need to change water because of ammonia or nitrites :-)
These are neutralized with biological filtration, and there is something
seriously wrong with your tank if ammonia and nitrites are still
detectable after a month of cycling with live rock and sand...
BTW - one month without water change is NOTHING SPECIAL OR UNUSUAL.
It is even recomended that during fish tank cycling you do not change
water for a month or two, to not disturb the cycle... But cycling
with live rock is usually flat if you use live rock cured already...

How do you feel re-inventing the wheel ? :-)))





Pszemol October 10th 05 04:21 PM

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message link.net...
LOL this is just tooo funny :-)


For the long time I was sure he must be joking...
Now, sadly, I discovered he was serious...


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