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Mister Gardener May 11th 06 11:40 PM

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On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:37 -0400, "Nikki"
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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 09:22:34 -0400, "Nikki"
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"-ED" wrote in message
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Nikki, what's the dimensions of your 120 gal, please ? -ED



72" long
21" high
19" front to back

You made me scare my husband, all he seen was me measuring it.... "we are
not moving it...no way not again" I told him no someone wants to know the
size, he said oh ok.
Its a nice tank, we are still back and forth about what shall go into
it...he wants a cichlid tank, and I want to put angels in it, but we are
going to compromise, I will see if there are any cichlids that can go with
angels, or we will buy another tank for the angels....we have decided we
are
going to make it a planted tank so I been spending a lot of time reading
about planting tanks, it has glass tops which is nice, however I got to be
careful I have almost broke the top pieces a few times now. it has lights
that go on top of the glass. He is making a thing so that you can put a
light behind it also, they will be attached to the oak stand.
Nik

If you're thinking cichlids as in African, forget trying to house them
with the angels. Give the angels a home of their own, with some quiet
little south americans - pencil fish in a school of a dozen are
gorgeous. Apistogrammas as in Ramirez Dwarf Cichlid are also a perfect
match - though many people are having trouble keeping them alive more
than 6 months. Please continue making me jealous, the pain is
wonderful.


-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me


No not African (at least i dont think), up at oddball he has cichlids I have
never seen before in other pet stores, very neat ones, I will have to email
him and ask some of the names, and I will let you know...maybe you can tell
me what I am able to put with them. Like I was saying the only thing we
agree on is... we want a planted tank...I want lots of plants.... so I been
doing lots of reading.
I really did not spend a lot of money up at oddball that day, I seen your
comment...It was a mothers day present, I got fish, tank plants (we got a
bunch of these tall plants for the angels) And he built me a place for my
house plants, strip of lights, high watts, then this circle thing that goes
below the plants and it releases this white mist, looks like fog ..any way
has to do with humidity for the plants, seems to work well...plants are
growing like crazy, so i also got more house plants for mothers day..
Nik
Angels are doing well so far...them seem to have taken over the gourami tank
(temp home) i was worried but they seem to be fine, one was chasing one of
my baby gourami's, i think i will get some more if i do ok with these guys
"fingers crossed".

Quick question, i was at a petstore the other day, looking at tank platns, i
seen devils ivy in a tank, i know house plants and i am 100% sure that is
what it was, i came home and looked it up and read people do put it in their
fish tanks and it lives, of course i also read other places that its a bad
idea, which i tend to agree with, what do you guys think about that. I have
stuck it in to root before but not with leaves under water only the bottom
and root.
Nik

Not much help here. I doubt that it will hurt your fish, but I also
doubt that it will live very long. Philodendron is the only house
plant I know of that people have been keeping growing next to
aquariums with the leaves in the water.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

Nikki May 12th 06 01:11 AM

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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:37 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote:


Not much help here. I doubt that it will hurt your fish, but I also
doubt that it will live very long. Philodendron is the only house
plant I know of that people have been keeping growing next to
aquariums with the leaves in the water.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me


Yes I would not do it myself (keep the entire plant underwater) but I am
sure it was devils ivy I seen in that tank at the store, which is why I
looked it up....I do however stick clippings in my fishtank water because
they root a lot quicker.
I have been watering some of my plants with tank water only and others using
miracle grow to see which do better, in the end I will more then likely do
both but I am wondering.
Nik



Koi-Lo May 12th 06 02:33 AM

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"Nikki" wrote in message
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I have been watering some of my plants with tank water only and others
using miracle grow to see which do better, in the end I will more then
likely do both but I am wondering.

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I add the Miracle Grow or Peter's to the used fish water at 1/2 or less of
the recommended dose. My plants are thriving as can be seen on my website.
--
Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Mister Gardener May 12th 06 12:11 PM

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On Thu, 11 May 2006 20:11:40 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote:


"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:37 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote:


Not much help here. I doubt that it will hurt your fish, but I also
doubt that it will live very long. Philodendron is the only house
plant I know of that people have been keeping growing next to
aquariums with the leaves in the water.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me


Yes I would not do it myself (keep the entire plant underwater) but I am
sure it was devils ivy I seen in that tank at the store, which is why I
looked it up....I do however stick clippings in my fishtank water because
they root a lot quicker.
I have been watering some of my plants with tank water only and others using
miracle grow to see which do better, in the end I will more then likely do
both but I am wondering.
Nik

The miracle grow will give the fastest results, but keep in mind how
many barrels of precious petroleum it required to manufacture that
little can of instant grow. I've forgotten the numbers, but chemical
fertilizers require a lot of oil and natural gas to produce. By using
tank water you are saving oil and helping someone's car to run another
mile.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

-ED May 12th 06 01:01 PM

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On Fri, 12 May 2006 06:11:34 -0500, Mister Gardener
wrote:

On Thu, 11 May 2006 20:11:40 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote:


"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:37 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote:


Not much help here. I doubt that it will hurt your fish, but I also
doubt that it will live very long. Philodendron is the only house
plant I know of that people have been keeping growing next to
aquariums with the leaves in the water.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me


Yes I would not do it myself (keep the entire plant underwater) but Iam
sure it was devils ivy I seen in that tank at the store, which is whyI
looked it up....I do however stick clippings in my fishtank water
because
they root a lot quicker.
I have been watering some of my plants with tank water only and others
using
miracle grow to see which do better, in the end I will more then likely
do
both but I am wondering.
Nik

The miracle grow will give the fastest results, but keep in mind how
many barrels of precious petroleum it required to manufacture that
little can of instant grow. I've forgotten the numbers, but chemical
fertilizers require a lot of oil and natural gas to produce. By using
tank water you are saving oil and helping someone's car to run another
mile.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

Its good to remind us of the bigger picture. We get so consumed in our
daily needs(wants) that we lose sight of the costs of our vanities. Top
of the Morning to Ya'


--
Thanks-ED

Gill Passman May 12th 06 01:10 PM

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-ED wrote:
Its good to remind us of the bigger picture. We get so consumed in our
daily needs(wants) that we lose sight of the costs of our vanities.
Top of the Morning to Ya'



You are so right here....today I woke up to no running water - how
easily we come to take having water provided straight into our homes on
tap....My whole day had been planned around having this basic commodity
- garden, water changes on the tanks, washing etc. etc. and I couldn't
even get a drink out of the tap - Luckily for me it was temporary (I
think it is back on now at very low pressure) but it did make me think
how lucky we are and how much we come to take such things for granted....

To get back on topic - all of the water from my water changes goes on
the terrestial plants - since doing this I've not found any need to use
additional ferts...(although I do use them in the tanks)

Gill

Nikki May 12th 06 02:31 PM

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"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
-ED wrote:
Its good to remind us of the bigger picture. We get so consumed in our
daily needs(wants) that we lose sight of the costs of our vanities. Top
of the Morning to Ya'



You are so right here....today I woke up to no running water - how easily
we come to take having water provided straight into our homes on tap....My
whole day had been planned around having this basic commodity - garden,
water changes on the tanks, washing etc. etc. and I couldn't even get a
drink out of the tap - Luckily for me it was temporary (I think it is back
on now at very low pressure) but it did make me think how lucky we are and
how much we come to take such things for granted....

To get back on topic - all of the water from my water changes goes on the
terrestial plants - since doing this I've not found any need to use
additional ferts...(although I do use them in the tanks)

Gill


I have a couple plants that if I don't use miracle grow in they don't do
well, however most of the others do.
I have a purple "velvet" passion who is hanging on my porch and hangs at
least 4 foot down to the ground, I should clip it but its so pretty....I do
much better with house plants rather then fish tank plants, hope i can get
there with the 120g, some time in the future
Nik



Koi-Lo May 12th 06 03:24 PM

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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
...
The miracle grow will give the fastest results, but keep in mind how
many barrels of precious petroleum it required to manufacture that
little can of instant grow. I've forgotten the numbers, but chemical
fertilizers require a lot of oil and natural gas to produce. By using
tank water you are saving oil and helping someone's car to run another
mile.

========================
But if there are plants in your tanks I would think they already removed
most of the nutrients house plants need. That's why I add some to the old
tank water I use on my houseplants.
--
Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*





Koi-Lo May 12th 06 03:28 PM

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"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
You are so right here....today I woke up to no running water - how easily
we come to take having water provided straight into our homes on tap....My
whole day had been planned around having this basic commodity - garden,
water changes on the tanks, washing etc. etc. and I couldn't even get a
drink out of the tap ...........

====================================
I don't know what you get milk or distilled water in there in the UK, but we
get it in plastic 1g containers. I rinse them and save at least 10g of
water for when we lose ours. Since they ran all new pipes a few years ago
it's not happening anywhere near as often.
--
Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*





Nikki May 12th 06 04:39 PM

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"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
...

"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
...
The miracle grow will give the fastest results, but keep in mind how
many barrels of precious petroleum it required to manufacture that
little can of instant grow. I've forgotten the numbers, but chemical
fertilizers require a lot of oil and natural gas to produce. By using
tank water you are saving oil and helping someone's car to run another
mile.

========================
But if there are plants in your tanks I would think they already removed
most of the nutrients house plants need. That's why I add some to the old
tank water I use on my houseplants.
--
Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*


for some odd reason in the past two months i wake up with brown water at
least a couple times a week, dont last long but still not want you want to
wake up to.
Nik




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