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phuile January 13th 07 10:34 PM

Tetra or guppies?
 
It's interesting how my questions of tetra vs. guppies becomes a
discussion of goldfish ! I don't mind though. In fact, that's why I
stop having goldfish. My tank is sort of a feng shui tank to begin with
so I have goldfish originally. I do know about the size, so at the end,
I actually only had one in it. He got quite big as all you guys said.
He is a bubble-eyed one, and was with me for quite many many years.

So going back to smaller, tropicals ... I think I will stick to guppies
(unless someone has more ideas :)). Now the question is how many can I
have in a 10 gal tank. Can someone advise? I know of one formula that
says 1 inch of fish per gal. Is that a correct assumption?

Also, what type of food should I feed them? I used to feed them flake
food (veggie ones and shrimp ones). Can someone give me more advise on
this also? I need to minimize algae problem.

And the last question ... I asked this before ... does someone know (or
know where I can ask) whether it is ok to put guppies in a feng shui
tank??

Thanks a lot guys!


Jen January 13th 07 11:11 PM

Tetra or guppies?
 

"Angie" wrote in message
...
Tynk, who gives a goldfish ass, its JUST a stupid goldfish! Feeder
goldfish are fed to pirahnas and the like, who cares about them!

They are still living creatures, being part of the food chain is natural,
but mistreating them is a different thing entirely. If you didn't know
before, fair enough, but now you do.


Jen



Tynk January 13th 07 11:58 PM

Tetra or guppies?
 

Angie wrote:
Tynk, who gives a goldfish ass, its JUST a stupid goldfish! Feeder goldfish
are fed to pirahnas and the like, who cares about them!


What a troll, lol.

Obviosuly, folks who are Goldfish fanciers care about Goldfish.
I think I have proved my point about your ignorance.
You're obviously a bad tempered, childish person as well.
If you don't carea bout fish and their proper care, why are you even
here?


Charles January 14th 07 12:05 AM

Tetra or guppies?
 
On 13 Jan 2007 14:34:59 -0800, "phuile" wrote:

It's interesting how my questions of tetra vs. guppies becomes a
discussion of goldfish ! I don't mind though. In fact, that's why I
stop having goldfish. My tank is sort of a feng shui tank to begin with
so I have goldfish originally. I do know about the size, so at the end,
I actually only had one in it. He got quite big as all you guys said.
He is a bubble-eyed one, and was with me for quite many many years.

So going back to smaller, tropicals ... I think I will stick to guppies
(unless someone has more ideas :)). Now the question is how many can I
have in a 10 gal tank. Can someone advise? I know of one formula that
says 1 inch of fish per gal. Is that a correct assumption?

Also, what type of food should I feed them? I used to feed them flake
food (veggie ones and shrimp ones). Can someone give me more advise on
this also? I need to minimize algae problem.

And the last question ... I asked this before ... does someone know (or
know where I can ask) whether it is ok to put guppies in a feng shui
tank??

Thanks a lot guys!



Ten Guppies should work well. The ten inches per gallon rule isn't a
good rule, imagine a ten inch koi in there.

Flake food should be fine.

I know nothing about feng shui, there may be other groups that have
opinions about that.

Tynk January 14th 07 01:11 AM

Tetra or guppies?
 

phuile wrote:
It's interesting how my questions of tetra vs. guppies becomes a
discussion of goldfish ! I don't mind though. In fact, that's why I
stop having goldfish. My tank is sort of a feng shui tank to begin with
so I have goldfish originally. I do know about the size, so at the end,
I actually only had one in it. He got quite big as all you guys said.
He is a bubble-eyed one, and was with me for quite many many years.

So going back to smaller, tropicals ... I think I will stick to guppies
(unless someone has more ideas :)). Now the question is how many can I
have in a 10 gal tank. Can someone advise? I know of one formula that
says 1 inch of fish per gal. Is that a correct assumption?

Also, what type of food should I feed them? I used to feed them flake
food (veggie ones and shrimp ones). Can someone give me more advise on
this also? I need to minimize algae problem.

And the last question ... I asked this before ... does someone know (or
know where I can ask) whether it is ok to put guppies in a feng shui
tank??

Thanks a lot guys!


Well, if you just want a colorful tank, without the hassle of over
breeding, just buy males.
8-10 males would be fine.
Quality flake, frozen Brine Shrimp, Bloodworms are both great.
Giving them a well balanced diet is the best thing.
For an on going algae problem, figure out the *why*. Is the tank
getting sunlight, leaving the light on too much, over feeding a bit,
not enough water changes, high phosphates naturally in your tap water,
etc.
Some things can be fixed very easily, others not.
If the *why* is something like tank placement and even though it's
getting too much sunlight-yet you can't move the tank, get an
Otocinclus cat. Forget about a Pleco, as they will get much too large.
An Oto (for short) will happily eat algae and keep it under control.
Don't get a Chinese Algae Eater. They get large and stop eating algae
and start harrassing the fish too.
They will even start eating the slime coat off fish they can latch
onto.
If the *why* is over feeding, or under cleaning the tank...easily
fixed.
My 75g is right across from a large picture window, and we have water
that has a high phosphate level.
I have to no choice but to battle the algae in that tank.
Other tanks around the house are easier managed because of their
placements.
Oh...just thought of something else you can get to eat algae...Amano
Shrimp. Not Ghost Shrimp.
Amano Shrimp are harder to find, but worth it. They can clear a small
tank of algae in no time and keep it close to algae free.
I keep a couple in one of my male Betta tanks. They do a great job. The
other male Bettas around the house would devour the Shrimps, so I keep
their tanks under control via water changes.
As for feng shui...not a clue.
Lastly, the one inch of fish per gallon "rule" is outdated. Gups are
one of the very few fish it would *kind of* work with, but most fish it
doesn't. There are simply too many variables when it comes to stocking
a fish tank properly and adult size is only one of them.
So just forget you ever heard that one.


Alpha January 14th 07 02:22 AM

Tetra or guppies?
 

"Angie" wrote in message
...
How about something like white clouds? I think you could do something
like the feeder goldfish as they don't get big like the fancy or orandas
do.






Excuse me? They do get large. White clouds are a good suggestion. A
heater is better.




Alpha January 14th 07 02:23 AM

Tetra or guppies?
 

"Angie" wrote in message
...
"Tynk" wrote
Please do not ever recommend Goldies for a small tank in the future.
It's inhumane.


Oh please, if you want to go there... keeping ANY fish in ANY tank is
inhumane. I'll give any advise that I want to. I think you will find
that most fish do not live as long as you think they should be living no
matter how well you care for them. I don't think feeder goldfish living
7-8 years is that bad. Geez. Go get on someones case that has some poor
goldfish in a bowl, or the people who keep bettas in a little bowl.







Idiot.



Alpha January 14th 07 02:26 AM

Tetra or guppies?
 

"phuile" wrote in message
ps.com...
I have a 10 gal fish tank. I used to put goldfish in but I think the
tank is too small for them. I then changed to guppies, but a cold spell
wipe them out. I am not thinking whether it is easier to put some tetra
(neon red and blue ones) in, or put guppies again.

This is also a sort of a feng shui tank so if any one knows of whether
guppies or tetra is ok, please let me know. Also, advice of colour of
fish and number will be helpful. Concerning the number of fish, I don't
have a big tank, so I can't have a lot of fish (that's why I am trying
to see if smaller fish works).

Thanks for any advice!


Tetras are workable in a small tank. However, the fish supply is notorious
for poor specimens with tetra disease infestation. It is a crap shoot if
they will live. Since you quote degrees centigrade, you may have a
different fish supply than in North America.




Alpha January 14th 07 02:28 AM

Tetra or guppies?
 
What in the world is a feng shui tank (I understand feng shui, but just wtf
is such a tank? I think you need an education in aquaria...they are not
decorations alone._--------------)

"phuile" wrote in message
ups.com...
It's interesting how my questions of tetra vs. guppies becomes a
discussion of goldfish ! I don't mind though. In fact, that's why I
stop having goldfish. My tank is sort of a feng shui tank to begin with
so I have goldfish originally. I do know about the size, so at the end,
I actually only had one in it. He got quite big as all you guys said.
He is a bubble-eyed one, and was with me for quite many many years.

So going back to smaller, tropicals ... I think I will stick to guppies
(unless someone has more ideas :)). Now the question is how many can I
have in a 10 gal tank. Can someone advise? I know of one formula that
says 1 inch of fish per gal. Is that a correct assumption?

Also, what type of food should I feed them? I used to feed them flake
food (veggie ones and shrimp ones). Can someone give me more advise on
this also? I need to minimize algae problem.

And the last question ... I asked this before ... does someone know (or
know where I can ask) whether it is ok to put guppies in a feng shui
tank??

Thanks a lot guys!




Angie January 14th 07 06:54 PM

Tetra or guppies?
 
"Tynk" wrote
What a troll, lol.


Not a troll. Look up the definition of a troll. I've been in this group
for years. So I don't care about goldfish, whoopy do. I have friends who
feed them to their larger fish. However I do have a 7" oranda who is doing
wonderfully in a 20 gallon community tank of a few smaller fish. Though
pretty, they don't have any intelligence to speak of. I read somewhere that
goldfish in general have a 5 second memory. Oh boy.






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