"HA HA Budys Here" wrote in message
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From: "Stephen M. Henning"


"~ Windsong ~" wrote:

That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees.
As
for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones
who
order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores.

But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't
sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one
sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the
stock room or storage trailer, etc.

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Walmart doesn't have a stockroom. Managers, if doing their job, make sure
the
merchandise is in the proper display in it's proper place. (Entire stores
are
plan-o-grammed) They're not on commission and most are eligable for either
welfare, food stamps or both. Store security and cameras are there not so
much
to deter customer theft, but employee theft. When such radical measures
are
needed by the worlds largest and most profitable corporation against it's
own
employees one has to wonder why.
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Allow me to guess. They pay them PEANUTS! They give them no benefits and
they work abominable hours plus most weekends. They're not appreciated and
they know it. I can't think of a worse place to work than one of these
discount stores. Maybe if they paid a living wage there wouldn't be so much
theft.

The turnover at our local Wal-Mart is constant. You seldom see the same
face more than twice.
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"Jabba" wrote in message
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There is no GREED when you get or look for a bargain. A bargain
benefits
BOTH sides, not just one side. The items are sold cheaply and the store
doesn't take a loss, or worse yet, dishonestly claim a loss from their
insurance Co. The person gets a good deal on the item and saves money
that
they're usually end up spending in the same store on something else.

What would you describe it as then?
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I would describe it as CAREFUL and WISE shopping. Since I retired some
years ago I seldom buy anything unless it's on sale. Why should I not do
this? The store is still making money on my purchases, or at least
breaking even. Isn't this society wasteful enough as it is?

'they're usually end up spending in the same store on something else' any

proof of this - LOL

Proof of what? You must be a stockholder.... LOL!!! :-D
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"SVTKate" wrote in message
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There's an old saying that I try to live by.

"Waste Not, want not."

Chances are it's not the greed of a good deal, but the financial economics
of it.
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EXACTLY!!!! :-)
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"Crashj" wrote in message
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"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
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That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to
theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed
ponds
rather than let someone enjoy them.
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C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure
Wal-Mart
is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance
company to be defrauded in this case.

## You just mentioned the INSURED employees! You can tell me these stores
don't carry general theft insurance. Someone is PAYING for the ponds cut up
and tossed out, along with all the things from the greenhouse that are
dumped in a huge pile behind the building for the trash truck.

As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what
taxes
are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense.
If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers?

## I still say the insurance companies. Either them or the company they
bought the merchandise from. Does anyone know for sure that Wally World
EATS these losses? I'm only going by what I heard over the years from
people who worked there (and K-Mart). It's still a selfish self-interested
act on their part. Lowe's and HD mark things down as much 75% or more, and
people love it - I don't see these places going under and it's good PR.

The
customer, that's who. That would be you and me.

## Yep, us too.......

Crashj
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"HA HA Budys Here" wrote in message
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Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home
Depot,
Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer. That's why the stores
don't
care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer
(especially
seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than
sending
it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it.
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What a waste....
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"Lydia" wrote in message
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I used to work at Barnes & Noble. During peak retail times publishers
would
send us extra copies of books thought to be in higher demand in the "mass
market" format - that's the smaller size paperbacks. After said peak
season
ended and we had leftovers, the cover would be torn off and sent back to
the
publisher who would give the company credit for what they didn't sell.
The
staff were allowed to take 1 or 2 titles w/o their front covers home, but
the rest were torn up into small sections of book and thrown in the
dumpster! Surely those could have been donated to a charity organization
or
something. I always hated that.

$$ How sickening. Think how much old people in a NH, or disabled shut-ins
would love to have them. It's crossed my mind how much the elderly or
disabled would love some of those plants piled up behind the Wal-Mart store.

I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my
little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just
toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they
were just going in the dumpster.

$$ Or mark then down to almost nothing like the Lowe's store does. This way
the store gets something, and people are very happy to remove this
merchandise from the manager's face. :-) It makes for good will.
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:09:23 -0500, "~ Windsong ~"
wrote:

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===$$ How sickening. Think how much old people in a NH, or disabled shut-ins
===would love to have them. It's crossed my mind how much the elderly or
===disabled would love some of those plants piled up behind the Wal-Mart store.
===
=== I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my
=== little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just
=== toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they
=== were just going in the dumpster.
===
===$$ Or mark then down to almost nothing like the Lowe's store does. This way
===the store gets something, and people are very happy to remove this
===merchandise from the manager's face. :-) It makes for good will.


This is exactly how I feel. Our local Lowes may mark something down
but their dumpster is off limits and they never ever give anything for
free, even old pallets or broken pavers. Home Depot on the oter hand
has an area set up behind the store, and have pallets there with piles
of broken and busted merchandise like walkay pavers, edgers, plants,
busted bags of gravel and mulch with a big sign above the stuff saying
FREE.......For the most part stuff will remain laying there for a long
time, and even myself I will let a lot of stuff remain even if I could
use it "eventually"......its not like I just have to have it, and why
be selfish. Just yesterday I got 9 broken bags of cypress mulch and 11
bags of various bagged decorative stones etc, as well as a heap of
broken walk pavers.......and 8 bags of shredded tires listed as soft
playground mulch......The majority of plants and pavers and edgers I
have around my property and used in my pond construction were obtained
over time for free this way........They do not mind scratching my back
and I sure don't mind repaying the favor as I then spend more money or
at least try my best to utilize these places for any purchase I need.
I spend some serious money in Home Depot, but very little in places
like Lowes. Wal MArts reply to retreiving stuff from the dumpster is.
We do not allow it, but we are not going to make any effort to guard
our dumpster either........or go out of our way to prevent it. They
simply can't give permission to remove the stuff, but once in the
dumpster they are not going to stop you from retreiving plants etc
either..........its at this point when stuff is in the dumpster that
they met their responsibility in what their policy requires. Other
places will have you arrested for tresspassing if you dive their
dumpsters.........

I have also been known to get flowers from Wal MArts dumpster and also
from Home Depot, and take my time and nurse them back to health, and
take them and plant them at various roadway memorial markers you see
setup where people have been killed in accidents......This little act
gives me a sense of pleasure and presents no hazzard to roadways. I
have also nursed back to health a lot of plants and gave them to a
elderly care center nearby, which really made the residents
day..........I think there is much more to be gained for donating or
giving items away to be used by those less fortunate or by those that
really appreciate it even in a state of dissrepair than filling a
landfill up and increasing the bank account.

I sure did not intend for my original post to get so lengthy
especially when the only content about ponding was the fact they were
going to destroy and trash the liners..........
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"~ Windsong ~" wrote:

"Stephen M. Henning" wrote:
But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't
sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one
sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the
stock room or storage trailer, etc.
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Again you have a *management* problem then. Where is the store MANAGER and
ass't manager?

Managers are employees also.

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"SVTKate" wrote:

This means an entire store with only 5 people on staff,
one of them a manager, one of them an operations officer three of them
minimum wage sales associates.

Our Walmart has that many Seniors at the door greeting people. It has a
similar number in the garden section just loading peoples cars.

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"SVTKate" wrote:

If you want to blame someone, blame the sorporation, not the
employees. The company is to blame 80% of the time.

It sounds like you don't like your job. Have you tried a different line
of work. If you have to go around blaming people perhaps you aren't busy
enough.