none of my feeder guppies ever popped up with any diseases.... i didnt know
they carried diseases?


"Elaine T" wrote in message
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mike wrote:
i always put the feeder guppies in with them never the fancy ones...
Just
plain grey guppies...

Makes sense, but aren't you afraid of the diseases feeders carry? I
wonder how Endler's would do with bettas. *ponder*

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mike wrote:
none of my feeder guppies ever popped up with any diseases.... i didnt know
they carried diseases?

As a general rule, feeders are overcrowded and underfiltered, and
therefore stressed. At my local stores, there are always some dead fish
in the feeder tanks. If your store handles feeders better, that's nice
to hear.

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In article ,
Elaine T wrote:
mike wrote:
i always put the feeder guppies in with them never the fancy ones... Just
plain grey guppies...

Makes sense, but aren't you afraid of the diseases feeders carry? I
wonder how Endler's would do with bettas. *ponder*

As Innes said "the best food for fish is fish" and Endlers are
jsut the right size!

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Thankyou tynk for sorting this out!!!!
I do have something to add...

Bettas do vary in personallity. SOme may be kept with something else, others
may not...Crowntails especially have to be housed alone as they do have a
nasty temper
"Tynk" wrote in message
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mike wrote:
no the bettas wont eat the neons.... Bettas dont eat neons... They
dont even
bother with them... And you dont need heat unless your house is like
freezing, the tank will be good at room temp.... I had them and they
stayed
alive fine without heat, and also the betta didnt eat the guppies or
the
neons... Bettas dont eat live food, They might kill something if it
bothers
them... A neon or guppy will not bother the betta....I even had
bloodfin
tetras in with the betta, nothing happened... The betta wont fight
another
fish unless it picks at the betta or if it is another betta...

check out my webpage, i got pictures of the neons in with my betta,
in a ten
gallon tank somewhere on there...
MY FISH PAGE
http://www.mikesfishsite.com



Wow! You are so off here.
Just so you don't get all snippy when I correct you, I've been a Betta
keeper for 27 years now, and bred them for 19yrs, so I do know what I'm
talking about.

1- Bettas *will* eat Neons if they are small enough to fit into their
mouths.
Some Bettas will simply gut the larger ones and eat at their leisure.
Some Bettas will be peachy with Neons.
The key is that they (Bettas) each have their own individual
personality. That means no 2 are the same, and there is no concrete
rules when it comes to Bettas.
2- They don't need heat??? What's the matter with you?
Bettas should be kept at 78-80*f. That's warmer than most tropical fish
like it. Their native country is very warm and humid at all times. Of
course they need heat!!
3- Bettas don't eat live foods??? Do you know anything about Bettas as
all?
Sorry, I had to ask that one.
Live food, Mosquito larva mainly is their natural food. Small bugs and
small fish (fry) are another favorite food of Bettas.
If you still have Bettas I would advise you to actually research them.
Then you can give your fish the proper care they deserve.
Please do not give out such false information.

sorry i did figure that out earlier : )


"lgb" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

long but i know that a betta will not just eat a neon unless you are
just
feeding it absolutely nothing...

Also any fish will eat
neons if they are small enough to fit into its mouth......


Mike, you're contradicting yourself. And you've done it before in this
thread. You said bettas wouldn't eat live food, I pointed out that mine
ate baby platys, and you said any fish will eat baby fish.

Maybe a little more careful reading before you hit the send key :-).

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Richard Sexton wrote:
In article ,
Elaine T wrote:

mike wrote:

i always put the feeder guppies in with them never the fancy ones... Just
plain grey guppies...


Makes sense, but aren't you afraid of the diseases feeders carry? I
wonder how Endler's would do with bettas. *ponder*


As Innes said "the best food for fish is fish" and Endlers are
jsut the right size!

ROFL. I haven't seen Endler's in the flesh (or in the fins) to visualize
how small they are. Well, you just saved some Endler's or disappointed
my betta.

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What colors are you working with? Got any butterflys or yellows?
I haven't bred any for the past 4 yrs.
I like working with Cambodians - Multi's, pastels, and my fav White
Opaques. (I couldn't get the opaques to spawn though, so they don't
count).
When I do start up again, I will for sure be doing Crowntails. I'm
still trying to convince a local shop that gets good stock from a
breeder, to bring in some Halfmoons.
I would love to bring Halfmoons to the general hobbyist at normal Betta
prices.
I'm a bit against the outrageous prices some of these breeders charge
for Bettas. I can almost see it if these fish lived long lives, like
Oscar's, etc....but they don't. I could see it if these fish were
extremely hard to breed, or only bred every so many years...etc...but
they're not. I cannot justify the prices these breeders are charging,
so I keep bugging them to bring on the Halfmoon's, hehe. = )

And in my house its 72F and if you got your
room temps about right you wont need a heater...

And temp is your Betta's tank at??
It's too cold for Bettas. 72*f is much too cold for Bettas, and room
temp water will be less than that.
You need a heater.
Please research the proper care of Bettas if you won't listen to anyone
here...especially a breeder. Sheesh.

Tynk wrote:
Elaine,
Bettas are sociable to a point.
Within the Betta society, there is a hierarchy. If this didn't
happen,
then they wouldn't be sociable.
Just not the same type of sociable that comes to mind.


Ah. You mean sort of like cichlid sociable? Can they set up colonies
in large enough tanks? I know females will live together with a
cichlid-like heirarchy but what happens with the males?

Yeah, Elaine..I think it's probably like a Cichlid society. Not always
peaceful, but with purpose..rules, a big boss, and always the pne that
gets picked on...
Now in the wild the males all stake out territories. Remember, they
only have small amounts of water during the dry season, and otherwise
their water is usually 12-18" deep.
Each male has an area and defends it against other males....usually
with a show of fins, flaring and a nip or chase and the intruder flees.
No fight to the death in the wild....that's just for shows where
they're in small jars being fought and there's no where for the loser
to flee to. Therefore the wounds are inflicted that otherwise would not
be and the fish usually dies from it's injuries, not the actual winner.
Now, depending on the individual males..some may be able to stake out
territories in something like a 55g, 75g or larger and the pair of
males tolerates each other without too much hostility.
Usually this is VERY rare, and mostly only with spawn siblings that
have never been separated...evenfor water changes.
This is something I don't advise, as you never know when a squabble
would turn nasty and you may not be home to catch it in time.
I will say that I once had spawn brothers occupy a 29g together. Then
one day...I'm talking years later, they decided to go at it and I
returned into the room to find one of them in shreds.
After that, no matter if I had peaceful brothers that seemed not to
spar long after all the others needed to be separated, I sitll would
not try it. It's just not worth it. In the wild they always have some
place to flee to. Not in a tank.

none of my feeder guppies ever popped up with any diseases.... i didnt
know
they carried diseases?

= O