Future scenario for the home aquarium.
 

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:40:59 -0600, Koi-lo wrote:
You have too much time on your hands. ;-) How about inventing some kind of
heater for betta bowls to sit on and be heated? You know, like a heat tape
that runs along the window sill, table or shelf with the bowls sitting on
them. I'll be your first customer.

You can buy heated pads for mouse cages and similar from pet shops...


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Future scenario for the home aquarium.
 

In article .com,
Curt wrote:
What kinda stupid message is this? Did you write this tripe out of
boredom or you are a little off center? Nothing is ever going to change
as you predict. People will always have "normal" home aquariums. Yes
there are some people that go to extremes but the normal owner will
realize their litiations and have "normal" setups. Next time save your
predictions and do something more productive and constructive.......

It's always 4:19 somewhere isn't it?


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Future scenario for the home aquarium.
 

"Flash Wilson" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:40:59 -0600, Koi-lo
wrote:
You have too much time on your hands. ;-) How about inventing some kind
of
heater for betta bowls to sit on and be heated? You know, like a heat
tape
that runs along the window sill, table or shelf with the bowls sitting on
them. I'll be your first customer.

You can buy heated pads for mouse cages and similar from pet shops...
=============================
Yes, thanks... but I always have 6 to 8 betta bowls in a row and want
something like an unobtrusive strip to run along the windowsill. There's no
way I can afford that many little heaters to go under each one. Also, the
wires would be ugly and in the way.
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Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
Aquariums: http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastada...ium-Page4.html
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Future scenario for the home aquarium.
 

You can buy heated pads for mouse cages and similar from pet shops...
=============================
Yes, thanks... but I always have 6 to 8 betta bowls in a row and want
something like an unobtrusive strip to run along the windowsill. There's no
way I can afford that many little heaters to go under each one. Also, the
wires would be ugly and in the way.

What you really need is a solar powered micro ground source geothermal
unit for your winddow. A little teeny tiny one.

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Future scenario for the home aquarium.
 

"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
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You can buy heated pads for mouse cages and similar from pet shops...
=============================
Yes, thanks... but I always have 6 to 8 betta bowls in a row and want
something like an unobtrusive strip to run along the windowsill. There's
no
way I can afford that many little heaters to go under each one. Also, the
wires would be ugly and in the way.

What you really need is a solar powered micro ground source geothermal
unit for your winddow. A little teeny tiny one.
=======================
Nah, someone needs to invent a heat TAPE for those with bowls or tanks in a
row. The reptile folks would probably buy it as well as the fish people. I
could be sold in several lengths to suit different needs.
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Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
Aquariums: http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastada...ium-Page4.html
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
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Future scenario for the home aquarium.
 

Flash Wilson wrote:

When I did live in
a house with a basement, it was all crumbly and rat infested, with
cold air and rats coming in off the road via an airbrick. I put
a few boxes of stuff in there for storage, and they had rotted
when I moved house 4 years later.

That's not a basement, that's a cellar!

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OT geothermal, was Future scenario for the home aquarium.
 

"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Gail Futoran wrote:
"NetMax" wrote in message
. ..
A possible scenario for the evolution of the aquarium:
[snip]
If we look at the trends, despite the weight, cost & space, aquariums
are
slowly getting larger, however this makes their best location to be
concrete (basement) away from prime viewing area (living room).

Reading other posts, it seems many people don't
have basements! If I had one, it would become
a family/play room, hence would be a perfect
location for a fish wall. Here in TX, basements
are a rarity.

A jackhammer and a few day laborours changes that. The house I live
in was built in 1860 or something, by an English Colonel. He'd never
heard of a basemnt either, that or the solid rock it's built on
deterred him somewhat.

From an engineering perspective, thisis not insurmountable, but
it's not conventional in the way you can, say, walk into a bank
and get a loan to build a miniature Marineland of the Pacific in
your basement that doesn't exist. Yet.

What you could do though is cut a great whacking hole in the floor
and build a foundation on the ground, which is typically giong to
be 2-3 feet lower than the gorund floor.

Now, if you make this bugger big enough the thermal mass becomes
an intersting property.

At the risk of getting too far OT from aquaria, I have wondered what volume
of subterrainian water would be required to cool and heat a home to an
average comfortable temperature. Given my latitude (Canada), I don't think
it's practical, but a bit further south might have possibilities. Build a
road to the edge of a short steep rockface (coastline, riverfront etc),
build a foundation to hold some water (200,000g?), grade with enough earth
for insulating the exposed side, add house on top. You would need some
energy to run the heat pumps, but rockface/coastlines are sometimes suitable
for a combination of wind power and solar (divided between electricity
generation for batteries and water heating to supplement the thermal energy
of the under-house sump.

An interesting angle is that the water would either need to be chemically
treated to be inert, or you could intentionally incorporate a complete
nitrogen cycle (fishies :o). I don't know which would be more practical,
but I know which I would investigate first ;~), though I suspect the
temperature range would not be compatibility to fish.

lol, this should lay to rest any niggley doubts about my being completely
wonkers, - but I still have lucid moments and I'm generally helpful &
harmless ;~).
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"NetMax" wrote in message
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lol, this should lay to rest any niggley doubts about my being completely
wonkers, - but I still have lucid moments and I'm generally helpful &
harmless ;~).
========================
LOL! :-D I was starting to wonder. Since you're as much a fish-addict as
I am, how come you don't have at least one pond?
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Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
Aquariums: http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastada...ium-Page4.html
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Future scenario for the home aquarium.
 

"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
...
Flash Wilson wrote:

When I did live in
a house with a basement, it was all crumbly and rat infested, with
cold air and rats coming in off the road via an airbrick. I put
a few boxes of stuff in there for storage, and they had rotted
when I moved house 4 years later.

That's not a basement, that's a cellar!
================================
It's sounds more like a crumbling dungeon. :-(
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
Aquariums: http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastada...ium-Page4.html
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

OT geothermal, was Future scenario for the home aquarium.
 

NetMax wrote:
"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
...

In article ,
Gail Futoran wrote:

"NetMax" wrote in message
...

A possible scenario for the evolution of the aquarium:

[snip]

If we look at the trends, despite the weight, cost & space, aquariums
are
slowly getting larger, however this makes their best location to be
concrete (basement) away from prime viewing area (living room).

Reading other posts, it seems many people don't
have basements! If I had one, it would become
a family/play room, hence would be a perfect
location for a fish wall. Here in TX, basements
are a rarity.

A jackhammer and a few day laborours changes that. The house I live
in was built in 1860 or something, by an English Colonel. He'd never
heard of a basemnt either, that or the solid rock it's built on
deterred him somewhat.

From an engineering perspective, thisis not insurmountable, but
it's not conventional in the way you can, say, walk into a bank
and get a loan to build a miniature Marineland of the Pacific in
your basement that doesn't exist. Yet.

What you could do though is cut a great whacking hole in the floor
and build a foundation on the ground, which is typically giong to
be 2-3 feet lower than the gorund floor.

Now, if you make this bugger big enough the thermal mass becomes
an intersting property.


At the risk of getting too far OT from aquaria, I have wondered what volume
of subterrainian water would be required to cool and heat a home to an
average comfortable temperature. Given my latitude (Canada), I don't think
it's practical, but a bit further south might have possibilities. Build a
road to the edge of a short steep rockface (coastline, riverfront etc),
build a foundation to hold some water (200,000g?), grade with enough earth
for insulating the exposed side, add house on top. You would need some
energy to run the heat pumps, but rockface/coastlines are sometimes suitable
for a combination of wind power and solar (divided between electricity
generation for batteries and water heating to supplement the thermal energy
of the under-house sump.

An interesting angle is that the water would either need to be chemically
treated to be inert, or you could intentionally incorporate a complete
nitrogen cycle (fishies :o). I don't know which would be more practical,
but I know which I would investigate first ;~), though I suspect the
temperature range would not be compatibility to fish.

lol, this should lay to rest any niggley doubts about my being completely
wonkers, - but I still have lucid moments and I'm generally helpful &
harmless ;~).

Think that it might have been done before...and then adapted to pump the
hot water around the home and lost the reservoir and just takes water in
when necessary...works great in my house g

Gill