Worthless test kits......
 

"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
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Koi-Lo wrote:
What kind of waste? And what nutrient or nutrients would be in excess? I
have to know what that excess is in order to fix the problem and constant
water changes and gravel vacuuming isn't doing it. Flourish Excel my not
work if the underlying problem can't be solved and fixed. Do you know
which
nutrient this black crud thrives on?
===========================
High iron and low NPK. Ammonia.

How then do I supply the other plants with iron to keep them from getting
pale? Our water is very deficient in iron and plants (including
houseplants) don't thrive in it. I have to add Ironite to the potting soil
of even my pond plants or they start to fade away.

Algae cannot live in the presence of excel.

If it kills off this black crud algae I'll order a case of it! I may even
use it in my ponds. This is really good to know. I can't wait until it
gets here. Meanwhile I'll keep up the constant water changes and cut out
their mid day snack.

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In article ,
Koi-Lo wrote:
nutrient this black crud thrives on?
===========================
High iron and low NPK. Ammonia.

How then do I supply the other plants with iron to keep them from getting
pale? Our water is very deficient in iron and plants (including
houseplants) don't thrive in it. I have to add Ironite to the potting soil
of even my pond plants or they start to fade away.

It's dificult to micromanage these things over the wire. But it's easier
to fix that diagnose. Feed way less, change way more water.

Algae cannot live in the presence of excel.

If it kills off this black crud algae I'll order a case of it! I may even
use it in my ponds. This is really good to know. I can't wait until it
gets here. Meanwhile I'll keep up the constant water changes and cut out
their mid day snack.

The stuff is not cheap. And there's no second source.

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Worthless test kits......
 

"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
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In article ,
Koi-Lo wrote:
How then do I supply the other plants with iron to keep them from getting
pale? Our water is very deficient in iron and plants (including
houseplants) don't thrive in it. I have to add Ironite to the potting
soil
of even my pond plants or they start to fade away.

It's dificult to micromanage these things over the wire. But it's easier
to fix that diagnose. Feed way less, change way more water.

OK. You convinced me. I'll start to feed once a day now.

Algae cannot live in the presence of excel.

If it kills off this black crud algae I'll order a case of it! I may even
use it in my ponds. This is really good to know. I can't wait until it
gets here. Meanwhile I'll keep up the constant water changes and cut out
their mid day snack.

The stuff is not cheap. And there's no second source.

I noticed that but if it works it's worth it's weight in gold. It was on
sale for $3.79 from Foster & Smith.
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Worthless test kits......
 

The stuff is not cheap. And there's no second source.

I noticed that but if it works it's worth it's weight in gold. It was on
sale for $3.79 from Foster & Smith.

The chesapest I've seen is $18.99 for 2L at Big Als, the American version.
Never mind the same stuff is $47 here, with only a 10% diffeerence bewteen
US and Canadian dollars. Grrrr....


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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
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The chesapest I've seen is $18.99 for 2L at Big Als, the American version.
Never mind the same stuff is $47 here, with only a 10% diffeerence bewteen
US and Canadian dollars. Grrrr....
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Foster & Smith = 2L is $17.99 on sale. Regular price is $18.99. You can't
have it shipped to Ca?
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Foster & Smith = 2L is $17.99 on sale. Regular price is $18.99. You can't
have it shipped to Ca?

Nah. UPS or fedex charges $17 to broker it. USPS charged nothing, but lemme guess,
they don't do USPS because they don't pick up.

I could have it shipped to a friend just across the border (I live close) but the
fuel it takes to get there is more than $17. I just pick some up when I'm in
Toronto and don't sweat it.


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Exactly. Salifert is about as high a quality test kit as is needed by
99.95% of anyone in this hobby.......but then again there are folks
that think just because it costs more momey it has to be better......

And I am not too sure Salifert is all that much more of a better kit
anyway, as Seatest and Fastest kits are super and very reasonable to
buy. I have been fooliing with fish over 35 years and have yet to
loose any due to a test kit being so inferior, so that a high dollar
LaMotte etc would not have made any difference.



On 27 Feb 2006 16:11:00 -0800, "IDzine01"
wrote:
Nobody who nows about this stuff trusts anyhting but the Hacher/LaMotte kit;


Oh please! *place eye-roll here*

Perfectly serious aquarists use the Hagen / AP / etc kits all the time.
They are far more standard even if they are less accurate. On the
contrary I think only a select few whose set ups are so delicate (and
expensive) could warrant spending the money on a Hach or LaMotte kit.
It wasn't even intended for us.

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In article .com,
IDzine01 wrote:
Nobody who nows about this stuff trusts anyhting but the Hacher/LaMotte kit;


Oh please! *place eye-roll here*

Perfectly serious aquarists use the Hagen / AP / etc kits all the time.

For anything other than nitrates, sure. But check the APD archives
to see at best, and I mean at very best, hobby NO3 kits are
only good for "low", "medium", "high" readings and I've
seen them flat out fail, that is read zero when there is
considerable No3.


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