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I'm sure she does know, but she only has one ick med, one antibodic, pretty
much one of everything (or at least the things she carries) in her store
and i guess that is what she orders and uses.
she does not know a lot about the things she sells, she was trying to tell
me betta's are ok in a few inches of water, which i always tell everyone
just because you can do something..... does not mean you should, yes they
will live but they wont be happy, she said they dont like havng a lot of
room, i tried to tell her different she said i did not know.
some of the stuff she tells me, i just smile and say yeah ok
Nikki



"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
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"Nikki" wrote in message
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I'll second that....My neighborhood fish store is not a chain (closing
this month) a older lady owns it she opened it after she retired for
something to do, and I kind of talked to her the other day about her
closing she said she was not doing to good with business,

My nearest town had several mom & pop pet shops try to make a go of it
over the years. Most of these stores did take good care of the fish,
medicate them, guarantee them etc. but people would not pay the prices
they had to charge to stay in business. The average Joe Blow went to *you
know where* to get fish for 1/3rd less the price the private stores had to
charge. Never mind they were sick and diseased, they were CHEAP! All
these M&Ps closed in less than 2 years. One only lasted about 6 months.
However we now have a brand spanking new PetSupermarket and they're
thriving! The fish are selling as fast as she gets them in (several older
women run the place).

and I am not the kind of person to say
"hay your store sucks" but I did tell her I had many problems with fish I
bought there, and she said the ones you just got in the last few months
(she said because she has not been as involved) I said no its been all of
them. She said its probably because I don't quarantine my fish I don't
have the room, so there is much more change of disease, she also was very
honest in saying if someone comes in and my tank is blue from being
treated they will not buy fish from me at all,

But there are colorless medications such as Aquari-Sol that no one would
know was in the water. How could she not know that? The wholesalers
could have told her what to use that works and is invisible. I think some
people just don't have enough knowledge to make a go of these pet stores.
That real bad place I mention here stays in business because they sell
other pets besides fish. I wish they'd just concentrate on the birds and
small animals and get rid of all their diseased tanks of fish.

even in the clean tanks, I said I don't know I
would be more likely to because then I know your on top of it instead of
thinking you don't care what you are selling.
she was nice about it
Nikki
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Aquariums since 1952
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netmax
You know one thing about her store which is now closing, she had retired and
i think she was one of those people who was not ready to, she opened her
store about six years ago, no one else ever worked there but her, six days a
week, 12 hours a day, and i do think it got ahead of her, she does not just
sell fish she sells birds, small animals, and supplies, and i think a lot of
the problem was she needed to charge more since she was a smaller place,
most of the time her tanks did not look well, a lot of dead fish, and from
word of mouth people stopped getting feeder and stuff, so any way she her
self was not a bad person, but she had twenty tanks plus a big round thing
she kept feeders in and i think it may have been a bit much to do alone. and
unlike some bigger places she could only get a limited number of fish being
she only had 20 tanks.
any way
Nikki


"NetMax" wrote in message
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"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
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"Nikki" wrote in message
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I'll second that....My neighborhood fish store is not a chain (closing
this month) a older lady owns it she opened it after she retired for
something to do, and I kind of talked to her the other day about her
closing she said she was not doing to good with business,

My nearest town had several mom & pop pet shops try to make a go of it
over the years. Most of these stores did take good care of the fish,
medicate them, guarantee them etc. but people would not pay the prices
they had to charge to stay in business. The average Joe Blow went to
*you know where* to get fish for 1/3rd less the price the private stores
had to charge. Never mind they were sick and diseased, they were CHEAP!
All these M&Ps closed in less than 2 years. One only lasted about 6
months. However we now have a brand spanking new PetSupermarket and
they're thriving! The fish are selling as fast as she gets them in
(several older women run the place).

Koi-Lo, as soon as someone posts something about store quality, even
something good about it, I can always count on you jumping in to tell us
how bad your stores are, the clerks are ignorant and underpaid, and it
won't get better because it is the American way. All this negativity is
no good for you. Chill :o) I don't doubt what you see is happening where
you are (Tennesee?), but there are thousands of gorgeous stores in North
America. Forget your big chains, though even they have a few stand-out
stores where you see the management is on the ball. Many of the smaller
chains are doing very nicely. They know where they want to be, and are
slowly moving that way (live plants in all the tanks, state-of-the-art
filtration, rotating stock for disease control etc). Then there are many
mom & pop stores doing their best, which is much better than the average
home tank. Finally there are the specialty stores, who practice a
husbandry beyond the average person's abilities because of the value of
their stock, whether it is Discus, Arrowanas or Koi.

At least you now have one good store which you can frequent. Try to stay
out of all the others, especially that other one we both know about
(W**-***t), it's bad for your health ;~).

and I am not the kind of person to say
"hay your store sucks" but I did tell her I had many problems with fish
I bought there, and she said the ones you just got in the last few
months (she said because she has not been as involved) I said no its
been all of them. She said its probably because I don't quarantine my
fish I don't have the room, so there is much more change of disease, she
also was very honest in saying if someone comes in and my tank is blue
from being treated they will not buy fish from me at all,

But there are colorless medications such as Aquari-Sol that no one would
know was in the water. How could she not know that? The wholesalers
could have told her what to use that works and is invisible. I think
some people just don't have enough knowledge to make a go of these pet
stores. That real bad place I mention here stays in business because
they sell other pets besides fish. I wish they'd just concentrate on the
birds and small animals and get rid of all their diseased tanks of fish.

A common store policy is to medicate with anything which is not
detectable. I liked it when we got in dark-blue painted tanks. I could
medicate just after closing, and the color would not be evident by
morning. Many medications are not colorless (like fungus treatments), so
then it was off to the back room quarantine tanks. I kept six Q-tanks
running, and I would have 4 typically in operation, and sometimes I would
double them up (fish from different tanks with different diseases, which
were both covered by the meds in use.

In an extreme case (the EUS discussed in another thread), I treated the
display tank, but I took a sheet of black background and pasted it on the
front of the wall tank with a sign "shhh hospital tank, fish may be
sleeping". Most customers took it in stride and didn't hold it against us
for having 'diseased' fish. A few said they were not coming back because
of it. C'est la vie. The occasional kid pealed back a corner to look
into the yellow water, but the fish were all swimming around quite
oblivious to it. Anyways, my long winded point... not all meds are
color-less. I think I have to learn brevity.
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www.NetMax.tk

even in the clean tanks, I said I don't know I
would be more likely to because then I know your on top of it instead of
thinking you don't care what you are selling.
she was nice about it
Nikki
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

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"Nikki" wrote in message
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netmax
You know one thing about her store which is now closing, she had
retired and i think she was one of those people who was not ready to,
she opened her store about six years ago, no one else ever worked there
but her, six days a week, 12 hours a day, and i do think it got ahead
of her, she does not just sell fish she sells birds, small animals, and
supplies, and i think a lot of the problem was she needed to charge
more since she was a smaller place, most of the time her tanks did not
look well, a lot of dead fish, and from word of mouth people stopped
getting feeder and stuff, so any way she her self was not a bad person,
but she had twenty tanks plus a big round thing she kept feeders in
and i think it may have been a bit much to do alone. and unlike some
bigger places she could only get a limited number of fish being she
only had 20 tanks.
any way
Nikki


I can certainly sympathise. Even with an automated water change system,
our 3 fish depts had the biggest budget for man-hours in stores which
also sold reptiles, small animals and birds. To make money, it's a
labour intensive operation to keep the tanks clean (gravel-vac and algae
cleaning), planted and properly fed. Maintenance averaged 1/2 man-hour
per tank per week. That's 10 hours a week for 20 tanks done properly.
On top of that, you need to inventory, order, receive, make signage and
sell the stock, and after spending all that time, livestock was not where
you made the money, it was in dry goods (which need to be inventoried,
ordered, received, shelved and refaced every day). I'm getting tired
just remembering all that work.
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www.NetMax.tk