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Tedd Jacobs March 22nd 06 05:00 AM

OT: usenet clients
 

"Nikki" wrote...

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 04:34:52 -0700, "Tedd Jacobs"
wrote:


"Nikki" wrote in message
...

"Tedd Jacobs" wrote in message
...

"Mr. Gardener" wrote...
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:42:14 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

Mr. Gardener wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:07:01 GMT, Altum
wrote:


Koi-Lo wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Tynk at
was
heard opining:


I have a sent folder?
LOL....I access the group via Google....I have a sent folder?
Hmm...now where might I find this?

feels so dumb right now:: = /

==========================
GACK!!!! You access through Google? Why don't you use OE and a
free
newsserver like I do? Some of them you don't even have to log
onto
like
aioe.cjb.net.

OE sucks beyond belief. Get Free Agent or Thunderbird.


Thunderbird is free. Free Agent is free, but limits your email to
sending out, ie replying to sender by email, of course you can
reply
directly to the mailing list, which is all many people do, it won't
let you receive email, it won't let you killfile, and it won't let
you
transfer and move messages to different folders. And it won't let
you
do a whole lot of things I can't imagine ever wanting to do, but
it's
nice to know I can if I give them $29.
-- Mister Gardener

I use Thunderbird for newsgroup reading/posting - pretty sure I can
block stuff - just can't be bothered...

Yeah - the trouble with kill filing is you'll never know if you
missed
something interesting. Or good, even.

did i just miss something? ;-)

OE is designed for e-mail, not usenet. agent and t-bird are designed
for
usenet,... except for those of us who cant be bothered. :-P~
OE is both a mail/news reader, as long as you have email/news you can
set
it up to use it.
Nikki

nikki and mr gardener,
yes OE can do usenet, but it was not designed for usenet. it was
designed as as a simplified e-mail client without all the extra's of MS
outlook and targeted (as most MS software is) to the general layman of a
mass market that recieved it for free with their OS (i would hope there
is a
realization that MS software and OS are not the best, just the most
available and used; think McDonalds). as a news reader it is _severely_
limited. naturally other clients designed with more consideration for
usenet can handle e-mail, for what it's worth IE can do e-mail/usenet and
it
was designed as a web browser. when making comparisons dont compare
apples
to oranges; OE is no more aplicable for usenet anymore than MSCHAT was
for
IRC. and FWIW, i use OE.

I don't think anyone has attempted to compare quality of Usenet
readers or emailers, we've just been pointing out what's available.
And whether OE was designed to be a newsreader or not, it is the
newsreader of choice for many people. I've never used OE for anything,
so I can't comment on its strengths or weaknesses, I just know that a
lot of folks use it. Agent serves my newsreader needs very nicely, and
MS Outlook is my emailer of choice. Once again, I'm not attempting to
compare any of these programs beyond the features each claims to
offer.

-- Mister Gardener


to the general layman of a
mass market that recieved it for free with their OS (i would hope there
is a
realization that MS software and OS are not the best



I build all my computers and install all software, and still i find OE to
fit all my needs, My husband was a chef for years and i still ate at MC
D's
Nikki


apologies. i think i may have come off the wrong way. i was not advocating
a campaign against MS OE or other MS software, but simply wished to point
out there are vast differences in applications (which most of you already
know) and in specific: applications that software are designed to client and
what is thrown in as a matter of convenience are two different things. i'm
one of the first to admit i use OE, (it fits my needs) but that doesnt mean
it is better or even adiquate for those with specific needs wrt usenet
applications. in reality OE isnt even the best e-mail client... (not to
stir it up a bit more). ;-)



Nikki March 22nd 06 02:05 PM

OT: usenet clients
 

"Tedd Jacobs" wrote in message
...

"Nikki" wrote...

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 04:34:52 -0700, "Tedd Jacobs"
wrote:


"Nikki" wrote in message
...

"Tedd Jacobs" wrote in message
...

"Mr. Gardener" wrote...
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:42:14 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

Mr. Gardener wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:07:01 GMT, Altum

wrote:


Koi-Lo wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Tynk at

was
heard opining:


I have a sent folder?
LOL....I access the group via Google....I have a sent folder?
Hmm...now where might I find this?

feels so dumb right now:: = /

==========================
GACK!!!! You access through Google? Why don't you use OE and a
free
newsserver like I do? Some of them you don't even have to log
onto
like
aioe.cjb.net.

OE sucks beyond belief. Get Free Agent or Thunderbird.


Thunderbird is free. Free Agent is free, but limits your email to
sending out, ie replying to sender by email, of course you can
reply
directly to the mailing list, which is all many people do, it
won't
let you receive email, it won't let you killfile, and it won't let
you
transfer and move messages to different folders. And it won't let
you
do a whole lot of things I can't imagine ever wanting to do, but
it's
nice to know I can if I give them $29.
-- Mister Gardener

I use Thunderbird for newsgroup reading/posting - pretty sure I can
block stuff - just can't be bothered...

Yeah - the trouble with kill filing is you'll never know if you
missed
something interesting. Or good, even.

did i just miss something? ;-)

OE is designed for e-mail, not usenet. agent and t-bird are designed
for
usenet,... except for those of us who cant be bothered. :-P~
OE is both a mail/news reader, as long as you have email/news you can
set
it up to use it.
Nikki

nikki and mr gardener,
yes OE can do usenet, but it was not designed for usenet. it was
designed as as a simplified e-mail client without all the extra's of MS
outlook and targeted (as most MS software is) to the general layman of a
mass market that recieved it for free with their OS (i would hope there
is a
realization that MS software and OS are not the best, just the most
available and used; think McDonalds). as a news reader it is _severely_
limited. naturally other clients designed with more consideration for
usenet can handle e-mail, for what it's worth IE can do e-mail/usenet
and it
was designed as a web browser. when making comparisons dont compare
apples
to oranges; OE is no more aplicable for usenet anymore than MSCHAT was
for
IRC. and FWIW, i use OE.

I don't think anyone has attempted to compare quality of Usenet
readers or emailers, we've just been pointing out what's available.
And whether OE was designed to be a newsreader or not, it is the
newsreader of choice for many people. I've never used OE for anything,
so I can't comment on its strengths or weaknesses, I just know that a
lot of folks use it. Agent serves my newsreader needs very nicely, and
MS Outlook is my emailer of choice. Once again, I'm not attempting to
compare any of these programs beyond the features each claims to
offer.

-- Mister Gardener


to the general layman of a
mass market that recieved it for free with their OS (i would hope there
is a
realization that MS software and OS are not the best



I build all my computers and install all software, and still i find OE to
fit all my needs, My husband was a chef for years and i still ate at MC
D's
Nikki


apologies. i think i may have come off the wrong way. i was not
advocating a campaign against MS OE or other MS software, but simply
wished to point out there are vast differences in applications (which most
of you already know) and in specific: applications that software are
designed to client and what is thrown in as a matter of convenience are
two different things. i'm one of the first to admit i use OE, (it fits my
needs) but that doesnt mean it is better or even adiquate for those with
specific needs wrt usenet applications. in reality OE isnt even the best
e-mail client... (not to stir it up a bit more). ;-)
your right :)

Nik




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