Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

You know what is disappointing to me .. I am a 30 year old BLUE COLLAR
WORKER without any college education. Served in military and seen
Kuwaitii sand on 3 different occasions and I know when to stop
throwing cheap shots at people caus eI got some difference of opinion.
Seriously this group has and continually and is letting me down. On
first glace it appears to be a bunch of very helpful indivuduals but
dare not put your foot in your mouth once not like noone in here has
EVER DONE THAT! Seriously you have a PhD and other person is min a
bachelors to claim themselves an Electronic engineer and you guys
seriously are hung up on creditals and not trying to help. Stop with
the damn EGO BOOSTER CRAP already.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:06:56 -0800, Don Geddis wrote:

"J R-S" wrote on Mon, 20 Mar 2006:
I am also a step away from entering a university in search of a PhD.

So, you're not even a graduate student yet?

And here I had the impression that you were a professor with a long and
distinguished career. (I graduated with my own PhD a decade ago.) Instead,
you're just a college grad.

OK, no shame in that. Thanks for clearing it up, though.

-- Don
_________________________________________________ ______________________________
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The chicken is involved; the pig is committed.

Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

And I guess I better stop posting in here since after I wont be
wlecome either lat and luck .. It doesnt matter what the guy is to be
honest .. He obviously put the axe down in past few posts didnt he ..
think about that for a sec

Later and luck with all this crap!


On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:24:37 GMT, AverageSchmuck
wrote:

You know what is disappointing to me .. I am a 30 year old BLUE COLLAR
WORKER without any college education. Served in military and seen
Kuwaitii sand on 3 different occasions and I know when to stop
throwing cheap shots at people caus eI got some difference of opinion.
Seriously this group has and continually and is letting me down. On
first glace it appears to be a bunch of very helpful indivuduals but
dare not put your foot in your mouth once not like noone in here has
EVER DONE THAT! Seriously you have a PhD and other person is min a
bachelors to claim themselves an Electronic engineer and you guys
seriously are hung up on creditals and not trying to help. Stop with
the damn EGO BOOSTER CRAP already.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:06:56 -0800, Don Geddis wrote:

"J R-S" wrote on Mon, 20 Mar 2006:
I am also a step away from entering a university in search of a PhD.

So, you're not even a graduate student yet?

And here I had the impression that you were a professor with a long and
distinguished career. (I graduated with my own PhD a decade ago.) Instead,
you're just a college grad.

OK, no shame in that. Thanks for clearing it up, though.

-- Don
________________________________________________ _______________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
The chicken is involved; the pig is committed.

Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

You simply do not get it. That is the problem!

This thread was NOT about joining biologists profession.
Re-read the original poster and try to understand the subject.
It was just about Jaime complaining how bad group treated him...
And how does he disrespect everybody here because we are
simple hobbyist and not BIG SHOT "professionals" like him...
And it turned out his whole career achevments are two (2)
papers with a very suspicious existence anyway...

Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

To tell you the truth, the name is Bulletin not journal but I will post the
proper citation here later. No problem, if you just want to dissect it to
find any excuse to challenge my credibility, well, you'll find it.
Nevertheless, please take the veil off, I am not the topic, your over
spending on useless technology is...

jrs
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"J R-S" wrote in message
...
In my case, I have two publications,
one with the Journal of Marine Biology of the University of Miami
and the other as a comulative environmental impact statement in
the XVIII symposium of the natural resources of Puerto Rico.

Is there any way to see this copy of the "Journal of Marine Biology"?
I have visited the library of University of Miami online and
they do not list this journal title at all. Is the journal name
any different? Or maybe I did not look hard enough... ?

I was also searching journals catalog by your first & last name and
also could not find it. I am so much interested in reading any of
your marine biologists texts but they are so, so hard to find!

Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

lol, you are so pathetic I am not going to bother with you anymore, ignored
from now on!

jrs
"Boomer" wrote in message
...
"Nevertheless is more profitable than Oceanography, you see, if you want
to
be in a ship 3/4 of the year, you want to be an oceanographer. A marine
biologists is more of a lab freak."

You are clueless again lol Troll


" XVIII symposium of the natural resources of Puerto
" Rico.

Sure, show me a link to that or any ref to that

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"J R-S" wrote in message
...
: Well, let me give you my view...
: As for deciding for a biology career, Marine Biology is not the most
: profitable one. There are little positions and a lot of competition.
: Nevertheless is more profitable than Oceanography, you see, if you want
to
: be in a ship 3/4 of the year, you want to be an oceanographer. A marine
: biologists is more of a lab freak. You will be learning how to deal
with
: ALL the newest equipment and software there is.
: There is when a marine biologist looks more like an aquarist. We spend
a
: lot of time in the lab testing, testing and testing some more. Then we
read
: and test some more.
: An aquarist is just a hobbyist that chose aquariums as it target hobby.
: I mixed both looking for a cheaper way to built a sal****er aquarium
with my
: coastal experience and some experience working for the Department of
Health;
: Environmental Protection.
: It is interesting how easy is to apply your lab knowledge to a custom
: aquarium and how much money you save.
: About your ankle, well, you are going to be in the lab not scuba diving,
for
: the latter, become an oceanographer.
: In my case, I have two publications, one with the Journal of Marine
Biology
: of the University of Miami and the other as a comulative environmental
: impact statement in the XVIII symposium of the natural resources of
Puerto
: Rico. Currently I am producing and editing a series of fieldguides of
the
: wildlife of the Florida Keys, an interactive software to help in the
: delineation of wetlands in Central Florida and developing a
maintenance-less
: filtration system for small sal****er aquariums. I am also a step away
from
: entering a university in search of a PhD.
: What does it all have to do with your knee? an accident destroyed half
of
: my left knee's ligaments, pressure-fracture my lumbar 1 & 3 and left me
: partially incapacitaded, yet look at all I've accomplished.
: Don't let any physical impediment be an obstacle in your life!
: jrs
: "AverageSchmuck" wrote in message
: ...
: Ok.. Forgive and forget sounds like a great thing you know and that is
: well to everyone without exception.
:
:
: However this discussion on Aquarists and Marine Biologists sounds
: interesting to me if people can stop freaking argueing and dredging up
: old stones from other threads .. Seriously I am about to embark on a
: Biology degree and I am very very seriously thinking about going
: towards Marine biology. I have a number of hurdles one being I can not
: communcate well take a look at my grammer and spelling. Another
: hurdle would be my physical problem with my right ankle not working
: very well. I would be very interested in whatever information people
: are willing to share on either side of these Aquarist and marine
: biology seriously.
:
:
:

Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

"J R-S" wrote in message ...
To tell you the truth, the name is Bulletin not journal but I will post the
proper citation here later. No problem, if you just want to dissect it to
find any excuse to challenge my credibility, well, you'll find it.

http://mt7kx4ww9u.search.serialssolu...=B&N=25&B=1400
Let me guess, it was not a "journal" but "bulletin", and not "marine biology"
but "marine science" or something else - you are not really sure what... ;-)

Nevertheless, please take the veil off, I am not the topic,

YOU are making yourself a topic! Nobody wants that, but you made yet
another topic not related to marine aquariums on this newsgroup...

your over spending on useless technology is...

I am not overspending - my tank is using very natural methods
well known in this hobby before you have even started your first tank.
I wonder when you will realise you are trying to reinvent the wheel...

Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

"Boomer" wrote in message ...
" XVIII symposium of the natural resources of Puerto
" Rico.

Sure, show me a link to that or any ref to that

Look for "XVIII Simposio de los recursos naturales".
I have found something about XVII'th but nothing about XVIII'th.
Knowing how precise Jaime is with his quotations, it could
be even XIII or VII Simposio. It was so important paper even
he does not really remember ;-)

Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

Here let me help you find it

Bulletin of Marine Science, Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science,
University of Miami, 4600 Rickenbacker Causeway, Miami, Florida

http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/bms/thejournal.html


That is a far cry from the title you gave "Journal of Marine Biology
of the University of Miami"

So, you should now a friend of mine there to back you up, Dr. Frank Millero. Should I give
him a buzz ??????
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"J R-S" wrote in message
...
: To tell you the truth, the name is Bulletin not journal but I will post the
: proper citation here later. No problem, if you just want to dissect it to
: find any excuse to challenge my credibility, well, you'll find it.
: Nevertheless, please take the veil off, I am not the topic, your over
: spending on useless technology is...
:
: jrs
:

Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

"AverageSchmuck" wrote in message ...
Like I said before ..

DOES IT REALLY MATTER?

Yes, it does matter what the the thread is about :-)

See your wanting to completely humilate a
human being over this .. You looking to take apart everything he has
ever done and will do over something completely petty .. that is
ridiculous

You are missing the point, again.
I would suggest you to do a quick search of articles Jaime wrote here
and read them to get your own opinion. It looks like you have joined
this group recently and you have not witnessed his previous "shows".

Here is a link to this newsgroup archives:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=gr...%40hotmail.com

Aquarists vs Marine Biologists
 

I think I get get it now .. You ****ed on the trees and he is on wrong
side of them.. Oh sorry didnt realize you have staked out a portion of
the net. I know that is completely ridiculous statement but that is
what is going on here. hmm maybe a time line will help me understand

1. person made claims that go against what I have learned and
understood and everyone else. Does this make them wrong. Maybe maybe
not
2. Everyone asks for research data anything to back these claims.
3. none provided perosn says they plan on turning future profit
4. still none provided ... people start takeing cheap shots at each
other
5. cheap shots are getting more brutal Both sides here are guilty
6. alleged person is now trying to slow it up a bit but is still not
providing information
7. people still thowing stones at each other


Do you see here their seems to repitive nature to this paradign here.
The insults and trying to tear down a person is not getting you this
precious information your wanting to see. I hate to have to explain it
but what you have chosen to call off topic I call trying to turn a
negative downward spiralling conversation to something constructive
and maybe just maybe some sort of information would be produced. I
mean after all you can catch more flies with honey than vineger.

Their is absolutely no reason to attempt to kill someone reputation
over a claim they made if that was true the entire scientific
community would be in complete ruins .. Some very respected people of
today and yesterday have some very radical theories out their that
were never accepted in community but yet they still produced something
worth while later or earlier in their careers. Ussually best to in my
opinion to say eh I chose to disagree till I can be provided with
data to show me otherwise and leave it their. That way your still
looked at as an open resource and so are they. Nobody is ****ed nobody
is enemies and most of all noone has to waste their time with constant
insults. See when a person makes a claim and doesnt provide data they
have already lost debate until data is provided so no matter how you
see it your point was made leave it their already.

Hell I more than anyone would love to be able to have a reef without
MH lights etc.. OMG I would love that then I would have several but I
can barely afford the one I got because .. bingo lighting is insanely
expensive and I make my own completely from local electrical supply.
So I am already getting off cheaper than buying coralife or some of
those other lighting products on market.



On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:13:49 -0600, "Pszemol"
wrote:

"AverageSchmuck" wrote in message ...
Like I said before ..

DOES IT REALLY MATTER?

Yes, it does matter what the the thread is about :-)

See your wanting to completely humilate a
human being over this .. You looking to take apart everything he has
ever done and will do over something completely petty .. that is
ridiculous

You are missing the point, again.
I would suggest you to do a quick search of articles Jaime wrote here
and read them to get your own opinion. It looks like you have joined
this group recently and you have not witnessed his previous "shows".

Here is a link to this newsgroup archives:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=gr...%40hotmail.com