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boooger September 29th 06 10:57 PM

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Think about this also Pzemol: If only a small fraction of the nitrate is
getting reduced during the time frame of the test then you would have
different results depending on 'your' room temperature. You would have a
high nitrate reading in the summer and a lower nitrate reading in the
winter. The zinc reduction of nitrate is a redox reaction which is
temperature dependent. In order to minimize the effects of temperature on
the outcome of the test, the test must be very efficient (greater than 95%)
in reducing nitrate.

Are you stating to feel a little silly now? :)



Pszemol September 30th 06 12:39 AM

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"boooger" wrote in message ...
Think about this also Pzemol: If only a small fraction of the nitrate is
getting reduced during the time frame of the test then you would have
different results depending on 'your' room temperature. You would have a
high nitrate reading in the summer and a lower nitrate reading in the
winter.


My room temperature does not change much between summer and winter.
I use heater in winter and A/C in summer... how about you ? ;-)

And yes, temperature should affect the reading.
Same as time does. I have already written about time.

Can you explain why there is a color change between the reading
done in 5 minutes and reading done (on the same sample) in 1/2 hour ?

Are you stating to feel a little silly now? :)


No, I am not... How about you ?

Can you point me to any aquarium test kit manufacturer
who states the nitrates reduction rate of their test ?
Or you still stand behind this wishful thinking 95%
which is true for the lab methods and not necesairly
for aquarium tests?

bOO0ger September 30th 06 02:42 AM

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My room temperature does not change much between summer and winter.
I use heater in winter and A/C in summer... how about you ? ;-)


I assume this is a tongue in cheek response.

And yes, temperature should affect the reading.
Same as time does. I have already written about time.


Temperature will have very little effect on the testing process if the
reaction rate is fast to begin with. As is the case here.

Can you explain why there is a color change between the reading
done in 5 minutes and reading done (on the same sample) in 1/2 hour ?


Are your test reagents for measuring nitrate in to separate bottles or one?


Are you stating to feel a little silly now? :)


No, I am not... How about you ?

Can you point me to any aquarium test kit manufacturer
who states the nitrates reduction rate of their test ?
Or you still stand behind this wishful thinking 95%
which is true for the lab methods and not necesairly
for aquarium tests?


Yep. I stand behind it. I stated several times the reaction goes to 95%
complete, NOT 95%.



Pszemol September 30th 06 06:22 AM

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"bOO0ger" wrote in message ...
Can you explain why there is a color change between the reading
done in 5 minutes and reading done (on the same sample) in 1/2 hour ?


Are your test reagents for measuring nitrate in to separate bottles or one?


2 bottles.

Are you stating to feel a little silly now? :)


No, I am not... How about you ?

Can you point me to any aquarium test kit manufacturer
who states the nitrates reduction rate of their test ?
Or you still stand behind this wishful thinking 95%
which is true for the lab methods and not necesairly
for aquarium tests?


Yep. I stand behind it.
I stated several times the reaction goes to 95% complete, NOT 95%.


Repeating the same thing over and over does not make it more
or less true than after the first time - show me the proof!

bOO0ger September 30th 06 02:48 PM

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Are your test reagents for measuring nitrate in to separate bottles or
one?


2 bottles.


Have you ever wondered why they don't put all the reagents in one bottle?
The answer should help explain your question.




Wayne Sallee September 30th 06 03:24 PM

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Since the last used bottle is the same ingredient in both
the nitrate test, and nitrite test kit, being that they
are both testing for nitrite, I wonder if the
concentration in both bottles is the same.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Pszemol September 30th 06 04:24 PM

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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message nk.net...
Since the last used bottle is the same ingredient in both
the nitrate test, and nitrite test kit, being that they
are both testing for nitrite, I wonder if the
concentration in both bottles is the same.


No Wayne - nitrite test is one bottle with water-like liquid
inside, heavy colored. 2nd bottle of nitrate test is very
heavy/dense transparent liquid with metal dust.
They are not the same.

Pszemol September 30th 06 04:25 PM

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"bOO0ger" wrote in message m...
Are your test reagents for measuring nitrate in to separate bottles or
one?


2 bottles.


Have you ever wondered why they don't put all the reagents in one bottle?
The answer should help explain your question.


Explain...

And do not forget showing me the proof for your " 95%" statement.

bO0oger September 30th 06 04:47 PM

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Have you ever wondered why they don't put all the reagents in one bottle?
The answer should help explain your question.


Explain...


Think about some more and take more than 30 minutes.

Hint: What is the reagent in bottle #1?



And do not forget showing me the proof for your " 95%" statement.


This has already been proved.



bO0oger September 30th 06 04:50 PM

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That should have read:

Think about IT some more and take more than 30 minutes.


AND

Hint: What ARE the reagentS in bottle #1?





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