How smart are fish ?
 

Nothing new about that. People have been doing that for
many years on the farm.

Wayne Sallee
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Pszemol wrote on 7/25/2006 9:33 PM:
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Pszemol wrote on 7/24/2006 5:48 PM:
Fish reaction to food is the first kind: they do not have to learn to
eat.
Fish reacting to the fridge opening or seeing a person next to the tank
is the second kind - the same as the one Pavlov dogs developed an
salivation reflex for the sound of the bell. Do more reading here
http://www.es.flinders.edu.au/~matto...lecture30.html


People do that, hence the phrase "mouth watering".

The point was that the dog reflex was the result of the BELL ringing.
Not the result of seeing, smelling or eating the food...

How smart are fish ?
 

Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/26/2006 1:06 AM:
You see, there is a whole world outthere that sees the bible for what it is
worst. A bunch of papers translated from language to language that are most
likely so transformed that it says the opposite of what they were intended.

Don't believe everything your professors told you. Most
translations go back to the original documents.

Wayne Sallee
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How smart are fish ?
 

atomweaver wrote on 7/26/2006 9:19 AM:
The scientific community's support for evolution is universal (we
wouldn't have the fields of modern medicine and genetics without it...
Are you getting a flu vaccine this year, Wayne? If so, thanks for your
support of ToE... your dollars and actions speak far more than your
anecdotes do). I'll only leave a pair of links for that angle. I think
the hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed evolution-related articles in
various scientific journals could also be considered support for ToE;


The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern
medicine, not the theory of evolution.

Wayne Sallee
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How smart are fish ?
 

Wayne Sallee wrote in
:

atomweaver wrote on 7/26/2006 9:19 AM:
The scientific community's support for evolution is universal (we
wouldn't have the fields of modern medicine and genetics without
it... Are you getting a flu vaccine this year, Wayne? If so, thanks
for your support of ToE... your dollars and actions speak far more
than your anecdotes do). I'll only leave a pair of links for that
angle. I think the hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed
evolution-related articles in various scientific journals could also
be considered support for ToE;


The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern
medicine, not the theory of evolution.


How so?

DaveZ
Atom Weaver

How smart are fish ?
 

atomweaver wrote on 7/26/2006 9:19 AM:

Regardless, your opinion is in the minority (wrt both the science, and
the religion).

hehe the old excuse "Everybody's doing it" (so it must be
right).

Wayne Sallee
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How smart are fish ?
 

How so what? how so are we similar, or how so has our
similarities helped modern medicine?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:18 AM:

The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern
medicine, not the theory of evolution.


How so?

DaveZ
Atom Weaver

How smart are fish ?
 

Wayne Sallee wrote in news:44C8DC06.90900
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atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:18 AM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern
medicine, not the theory of evolution.


How so?

DaveZ
Atom Weaver

How so what? how so are we similar, or how so has our
similarities helped modern medicine?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets




How does the fact that we are similar to animals _not_ help the theory of
evolution?

DaveZ
Atom Weaver

How smart are fish ?
 

The similarities are something to look at, and are a good
starting point, but they don't prove anything, no more
than the similarities in machines and computers prove that
they evolved from each other. Look at things in the reef,
many things at a casual observance from a novice would
think that they were the same, when a closer look shows
them to be very different, and some things that look very
different are actually more similar than those that look
similar.

If you were a Martian doing a study on how machines
evolved from one another, some of the order of how you
would say they evolved would be in the same order that
they were created, but some of the things would be in no
way the order that they were created.

Wayne Sallee
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atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:40 AM:
Wayne Sallee wrote in news:44C8DC06.90900
@WayneSallee.com:

atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:18 AM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
The fact that we are similar to animals has helped modern
medicine, not the theory of evolution.

How so?

DaveZ
Atom Weaver
How so what? how so are we similar, or how so has our
similarities helped modern medicine?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets




How does the fact that we are similar to animals _not_ help the theory of
evolution?

DaveZ
Atom Weaver

How smart are fish ?
 

I guess that depends on your definition of wierdos :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 11:50 AM:
Nah, just pointing out how your only peers in the matter are fringe kooks,
wierdos, and extremists of various shades. Its the character of who is
_not_ accepting ToE which should concern you.

For science, It (ToE) is "right", only because it works so incredibly
well...

DaveZ
Atom Weaver

How smart are fish ?
 

Ever played the telephone game in school Wayne? Going through person
after person it never comes out the same
at the end of game.

Wayne Sallee wrote:

Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/26/2006 1:06 AM:

You see, there is a whole world outthere that sees the bible for what
it is worst. A bunch of papers translated from language to language
that are most likely so transformed that it says the opposite of what
they were intended.


Don't believe everything your professors told you. Most translations
go back to the original documents.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



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