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Tynk July 23rd 06 04:48 PM

Betta question
 

[-=LÈGIÖN=-] wrote:


Thanks.
I have to do what I can to save the poor Bettas living in cold jars!
Sheesh.
Some folks just want to argue.
I just like telling the facts.



Amen...I am seriously considering another 55 gal and just stock it
with female bettas...I'm serious. Just females. If this is a
problem...SOMEBODY STOP ME. PLEASE.



No way! I'm not stopping you, hehe.
You will have a very cool tank in deed.
The only hard part will be when you add them, do it all at once. That
way they are all on neutral territory. This can be done by buying stock
and keeping them in quarantine tanks, or other tanks until you get the
desired amount for the 55g.
You will have bickering at first, as they need to figure out their
hierarchy.
Once that's established you'll see all their every day type body
language. This is so interesting to me and I can't get enough of it,
lol.
You'll soon figure out what each posture or finflash means for the
situation. You'll soon learn who is the alpha..all the way down to the
omega (lowest in rank).
You'll see action when another female wants to take over that role and
the difference between that and just "testing" the alpha. Now when you
have 2 females that refuse to back down, one needs to go to another
home. This is on the rare side, but since you have other tanks already,
it shouldn't be a problem for you.
There are several fin variations available now, and every color of the
rainbow to choose from. Who ever says females are drab, ugly, colorless
fish are ignorant and needs to do some research, lol.


Köi-Lö July 23rd 06 05:22 PM

Betta question
 

"[-=LÈGIÖN=-]" wrote in message
...
Amen...I am seriously considering another 55 gal and just stock it
with female bettas...I'm serious. Just females. If this is a
problem...SOMEBODY STOP ME. PLEASE.

======================
Why not breed your own? You can sell or trade the excess and will soon have
loads of females.
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Köi-Lö July 23rd 06 05:31 PM

Betta question
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...

Köi-Lö wrote:


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Ok....but you just said in another post that Bettas are fine bowls or
jars.
They aren't.

Wild bettas? Or are you talking about the unnaturally long finned bettas
I
keep? You know the ones,... the ones that wouldn't last a day in a rice
patty.
--

========================
Nope. The entire conversation has been about domestic Bettas, not wild
ones.

* As for the *domestic* bettas with the unnaturally long fins - yes, they
are better off in captivity. The conversation/thread in general was about
FISH other than domestic bettas.

You tossed in the native habitats when everyone else was talking about
pet shops types, and aquariums.

* Are you claiming now that we're not allowed to discuss "native habitats?"

Then you started talking about how
tanks can't compare to their native habitats, etc....

* They can't. I'm talking quality of life (think cageless zoos) and you're
talking length of life.

FYI - Patty is a
ladies name, not a rice paddie.

* Are you the spelling police now? Why don't you just killfile me instead
of constantly harassing and trolling me? What are you getting out of this?
It seems you feel only *YOUR* experiences should be posted here, no one
else's experiences count. Maybe you should start a moderated betta group
where only approved messages concerning bettas can appear.
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Köi-Lö July 23rd 06 05:38 PM

Betta question
 

"[-=LÈGIÖN=-]" wrote in message
...
On 22 Jul 2006 12:49:48 -0700, "Tynk" wrote:
I bet the entire problem you have experienced is not enough females and
a tank that was too small.
Besides....if you had overly aggressive males (rare with Splendens) you
should have never tried to house them together.



POPCORN...!!!
PEANUTS....!!!
CRACKER JACKS...!!!

===============
She's just trolling me. No one else's experiences with bettas count but her
own. The "spelling police" message was the tip-off. Some wanna-be trolls
harass others like this in their quest to drive the other person off. Also
egotistical people (and know-it-alls) forbid anyone else's experiences to be
posted that don't agree with what *they* experienced. It infuriates them
for some reason. But that's Usenet for you.
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*





Köi-Lö July 23rd 06 05:42 PM

Betta question
 

"[-=LÈGIÖN=-]" wrote in message
...

SOMEBODY STOP ME.........
We just can't have enough tanks, can we.

===========================
At some point we almost all say ENOUGH ALREADY! I found a home for my
platys. They're going to a gal with a 30Long I gave her as a wedding gift
18 years ago. Yep,... she still keeps fish. :-) The 10g will go back
into storage. But then I have all those huge outdoor tanks.........
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Köi-Lö July 23rd 06 05:47 PM

Betta question
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
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Nikki wrote:
30 Liters = 7.925161570744453 Gallons
http://www.calculateme.com/Volume/Liters/ToGallons.htm


Well then, Koi-Lo shouldn't be housing 3


Koi-Lo didn't house 3 or more bettas to a 10g tank.

(or more, as you shouldn't
ever just have 2 females per tank) females and one male in that small
of a tank anyway.


Who said my 30 gallon long tanks only hold 10 gallons of water? That makes
no sense.

Thank Nik, you're a peach.
P.S....you also know what you're doing. = )


30 gallon tanks hold 30 GALLONS, not 10 gallons of water. ;-)

--
KL.......
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*






Köi-Lö July 23rd 06 05:51 PM

Betta question
 

"[-=LÈGIÖN=-]" wrote in message
...
My neighbor, down the road, were yappin' about fish over coffee this
afternoon. I told him I wish I had known more about bettas when I got
into the hobby in the '80s. Just like the cichilds, I'm absolutely
sold on their personality.


Then you would enjoy raising them! Why not give it a shot?

And since I'm more into heartier (?) fish
these days,


Let's see if she CORRECTS your spelling......... ;-)

as I understand it, the bettas are right up my alley. I
don't want to get into keeping pedigree fish anymore..too much money
and time...the summer drought killed my money tree as it is.

I'm brainstorming a 55 gal with about 12 colored female bettas and the
right planting....I'll sleep good tonight, you can bet.


Check the second-hand stores for cheap tanks. Look for adds in the local
papers in the closest larger town. The last place to find a good bargain
are the pet stores.
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*







Köi-Lö July 23rd 06 05:58 PM

Betta question
 

"[-=LÈGIÖN=-]" wrote in message
...
Put a halloween mask on...march up to the fish isle witha hammer and
bust the damn locks off.

Then run like hell.

Don't forget the insanity plea, just in case. Better yet, fake a
seizure.

======================
It just amazes me they can get away with such cruelty. The boy told me it
was because people would open containers of food from the shelves and feed
the fish, fouling the water. I can see that as the reason for having those
locked boards across the top. But there should be and could be one
designated employee to feed them once a day or every other day.

This is one of those quality-of-life issues I was talking about above. What
chance do these fish have and WM buys them by the million. What's the
chance someone experienced will buy fish there - one in several hundred?
Remember what happened to those beautiful calico lionheads I weakened and
bought there? I knew better than to take a chance. Within days they
developed those contagious ulcers and had to be returned. I'd bet you 99%
of the fish sold to WW are dead in less than a month.
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Köi-Lö July 23rd 06 06:03 PM

Betta question
 

"[-=LÈGIÖN=-]" wrote in message
...

Yeh, about 2 months ago, my closest walmart had great tanks running
with healthy fish of great numbers and variety of species.


This was surely because they accidentally hired someone knowledgeable who
CARED. Don't give credit to the store manager. But few employees stay in
these stores long. The turnover is great.

Then about
a month later, the entire isle is in shambles...I wont say anymore.
You can guess the rest.


Yep,... I've seen this same thing happen here. But as for healthy?!?!?!
There were always a few with fungus or a bacterial infection plus ick. We
have a mom & pop store that's just as bad. I try to avoid temptation and
not stop there........

Shameful. I picked up the betta girl yesterday, and I'll be damned if
I'm not considering picking up another tank and rescue the whole lot
of bettas from them.=?


But that just encourages these stores to order more. Surely you have a Pet
Supermarket or PetsMart there.
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Nikki July 23rd 06 06:06 PM

Betta question
 

"Köi-Lö" $##$$@$##$$.#$$ wrote in message
...

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...

Nikki wrote:
30 Liters = 7.925161570744453 Gallons
http://www.calculateme.com/Volume/Liters/ToGallons.htm


Well then, Koi-Lo shouldn't be housing 3


Koi-Lo didn't house 3 or more bettas to a 10g tank.

(or more, as you shouldn't
ever just have 2 females per tank) females and one male in that small
of a tank anyway.


Who said my 30 gallon long tanks only hold 10 gallons of water? That
makes no sense.

Thank Nik, you're a peach.
P.S....you also know what you're doing. = )


30 gallon tanks hold 30 GALLONS, not 10 gallons of water. ;-)

--
KL.......
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*


She was asking how many gl is 30 liters.
Nik




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