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ranchu April 17th 06 03:03 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
Jan,

Some of the softer foods that are being manufactured now say not to
freeze the food, but if you are using a "hard" food freezing is fine.
The reason for the freeze band on some of the foods is for the oil
separation, as you suspect, and the fact that some of these oils break
down when frozen making them useless for fish nutrition..

Tom L.L.


ranchu April 17th 06 03:54 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
Altum,

I am off work today, so I did what you suggested, using the search you
designated in Google Scholar, "aquaculture koi carp diet" and 149 hits
were listed and not one supported anything that you said. That is not
to say that what you said is not valid, but it does suggest that what
without supporting documentation, it rates semi-close to an opinion,
like several others on this list who depend as not needing to support
their comments with research or quality documentation.

Tom L.L.


ranchu April 17th 06 04:12 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
Ingrid,

In case you have forgotten, KOI and Goldfish are Omnivores. They
process proteins and fats, but also process carbohydrates and
therefore, starches. That is why they are Omnivores, and, oh yes, they
eat algae and digest it.

Tom L.L.


Altum April 17th 06 06:37 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food ThisSeason?
 
ranchu wrote:
Altum,

I am off work today, so I did what you suggested, using the search you
designated in Google Scholar, "aquaculture koi carp diet" and 149 hits
were listed and not one supported anything that you said. That is not
to say that what you said is not valid, but it does suggest that what
without supporting documentation, it rates semi-close to an opinion,
like several others on this list who depend as not needing to support
their comments with research or quality documentation.

Tom L.L.

Well, let's see. First, you seem unwilling and/or unable to provide
quotes so it's rather hard to tell which of my comments you're even
talking about. Do you prefer vague flames to facts? I cited
Untergasser, a well-known authority on fish health. Where are YOUR
references. Hell, where's your netiquette?

*plonk* (I suspect you're too dense to know what that means.)

--
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Andrew Burgess April 17th 06 07:38 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
Some of the softer foods that are being manufactured now say not to
freeze the food, but if you are using a "hard" food freezing is fine.
The reason for the freeze ban on some of the foods is for the oil
separation, as you suspect, and the fact that some of these oils break
down when frozen making them useless for fish nutrition..


Do you know any more about this? I tried googling but
I only found claims that some vege oils were not harmed by freezing.

I can't imagine a mechanism unless its a combination of seperation and
then oxidation?

Just curious...


Derek Broughton April 17th 06 07:50 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
Altum wrote:

*plonk* (I suspect you're too dense to know what that means.)


Ahhh! It's so refreshing to be back to bashing each other over actual
ponding issues! :-)
--
derek

Altum April 17th 06 09:28 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food ThisSeason?
 
Derek Broughton wrote:
Altum wrote:

*plonk* (I suspect you're too dense to know what that means.)


Ahhh! It's so refreshing to be back to bashing each other over actual
ponding issues! :-)


ROFLMAO! Give me a coffee warning before you do that. Now I gotta
clean the screen off. ;-)

--
Put the word aquaria in the subject to reply.
Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com

Derek Broughton April 17th 06 10:02 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This Season?
 
Altum wrote:

Derek Broughton wrote:
Altum wrote:

*plonk* (I suspect you're too dense to know what that means.)


Ahhh! It's so refreshing to be back to bashing each other over actual
ponding issues! :-)


ROFLMAO! Give me a coffee warning before you do that. Now I gotta
clean the screen off. ;-)

Sorry !
--
derek

Gill Passman April 17th 06 10:18 PM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food ThisSeason?
 
Derek Broughton wrote:
Altum wrote:


Derek Broughton wrote:

Altum wrote:


*plonk* (I suspect you're too dense to know what that means.)

Ahhh! It's so refreshing to be back to bashing each other over actual
ponding issues! :-)


ROFLMAO! Give me a coffee warning before you do that. Now I gotta
clean the screen off. ;-)


Sorry !


No need to apologise....he,he


Peter Smith April 18th 06 01:19 AM

What Are You Feeding & Where are You Buying Your Koi Food This...
 
Tetra Variety Pond Food is what I use.
I like the popcorn idea.



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