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Köi-Lö wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
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Nikki wrote:
30 Liters = 7.925161570744453 Gallons
http://www.calculateme.com/Volume/Liters/ToGallons.htm

Well then, Koi-Lo shouldn't be housing 3

Koi-Lo didn't house 3 or more bettas to a 10g tank.

(or more, as you shouldn't
ever just have 2 females per tank) females and one male in that small
of a tank anyway.

Who said my 30 gallon long tanks only hold 10 gallons of water? That makes
no sense.

Ah..there's that twisting, and adding of words that were never said you
are well known for.
Here's my post....copied and pasted. I never once said a 30g tanks hold
3g's water, you nit. LOL
You said 30L which stands for 30 liter. If you were talking about a 30g
as in 30 gallons then you would have made yourself clear.
Everyone here uses G for gallons and L for liters.
If, when referring to a "long" tank, ther proper way to type that to
avoid confusion would be 30gL...meaning 30 gallon long. This has been
the common way of doing this since I was a little girl. Now don't
start with the it has to be my way or it's wrong crap.
Go whine some place else. This is just how it is. Same with the proper
care of Bettas. It has nothing to do with MY way. It's just the proper
way...I learned it just as anyone else can...unless they have a problem
doing this properly.

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Nikki wrote:
30 Liters = 7.925161570744453 Gallons
http://www.calculateme.com/Volume/Liters/ToGallons.htm

Well then, Koi-Lo shouldn't be housing 3 (or more, as you shouldn't
ever just have 2 females per tank) females and one male in that small
of a tank anyway.
Thank Nik, you're a peach.
P.S....you also know what you're doing. = )

Now....Do I need to copy and paste your post where you typed 30L?
Maybe that means 30gL in your head, but anyone else would assume you
meant a 30 Liter...which would be 7.? something gallons.

Köi-Lö wrote:

Who said my 30 gallon long tanks only hold 10 gallons of water? That makes
no sense.

Thank Nik, you're a peach.
P.S....you also know what you're doing. = )

30 gallon tanks hold 30 GALLONS, not 10 gallons of water. ;-)

Here ya go.
I copied and pasted what you said, so that you can't argue about it:

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"Nikki" wrote in message

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They definitely have their own personalities. :-)

Which is a big part of if a male/female can be put together. Most times
people say you can only put a male by him self, and some males that is
true, but not most of them, mind seem to do better in a community.
Tynk I think has hers in a 75g, Ed I think had his in a 55g, I have a pair
in a 30 long, with out no problem.

These are BIGGER tanks and if planted and the bettas are not very
aggressive, it should be ok. I just don't think people should be
encouraged
to even try it if they have a tank smaller than a 30L.

See above....you said 30L..meaning liters.

"Tynk" wrote in message
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Köi-Lö wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
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Nikki wrote:
30 Liters = 7.925161570744453 Gallons
http://www.calculateme.com/Volume/Liters/ToGallons.htm

Well then, Koi-Lo shouldn't be housing 3

Koi-Lo didn't house 3 or more bettas to a 10g tank.

(or more, as you shouldn't
ever just have 2 females per tank) females and one male in that small
of a tank anyway.

Who said my 30 gallon long tanks only hold 10 gallons of water? That
makes
no sense.

=======================
Ah..there's that twisting, and adding of words that were never said you
are well known for.

* Well know for by who? You? All I can go by is what you post. Where did
I ever claim I kept male and female bettas together in small tanks?

THIS is what you posted:
"Well then, Koi-Lo shouldn't be housing 3 (or more, as you shouldn't
ever just have 2 females per tank) females and one male in *that small
of a tank anyway."*

Memory lapse there Tynk, or a troll-trick just to disagree with anything and
everything I post?

Here's my post....copied and pasted. I never once said a 30g tanks hold
3g's water, you nit. LOL

LOL, LOL.... here it is again.
"Well then, Koi-Lo shouldn't be housing 3 (or more, as you shouldn't
ever just have 2 females per tank) females and one male in *that small
of a tank anyway."*

You said 30L which stands for 30 liter.

No Tynk, where I come from a 30L is a 30Long which I often write out. Know
what you're talking about before insulting someone.

If you were talking about a 30g
as in 30 gallons then you would have made yourself clear.

I have made myself clear many times on this NG by writing out 30Long.

Everyone here uses G for gallons and L for liters.

And everyone I know uses 30L to mean a 30 gallon LONG tank. I've used 30L
here many times as well and wrote out 30Long.

If, when referring to a "long" tank, ther proper way to type that to
avoid confusion would be 30gL...meaning 30 gallon long. This has been
the common way of doing this since I was a little girl. Now don't
start with the it has to be my way or it's wrong crap.

Now don't you start to tell me what everyone does here, did here, will do
here, should do here and on and on and on just like a troll does...........
use your killfile.

Go whine some place else.

LOL,... you need to whine somewhere else. The group was peaceful until YOU
came back and are now trying to dominate the group and what people post
here. You're the one constantly whining and sobbing and crying about
everything I post in the mistaken belief that if you troll me long enough
you'll chase me away. Why not post on the moderated group where no one will
disagree with you?

This is just how it is. Same with the proper
care of Bettas. It has nothing to do with MY way. It's just the proper
way...

According to *YOU* and yet they live a long time other ways as well, which
you can't accept for some reason. It's either your way or you troll and
insult the person. You think your insulting disagreeable and obnoxious
aggressiveness will force people to agree with you.

I learned it just as anyone else can...unless they have a problem
doing this properly.

You have the problem accepting that there are other ways to keep bettas than
*YOUR* way.
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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"Tynk" wrote in message
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Köi-Lö wrote:

Who said my 30 gallon long tanks only hold 10 gallons of water? That
makes
no sense.

Thank Nik, you're a peach.
P.S....you also know what you're doing. = )

30 gallon tanks hold 30 GALLONS, not 10 gallons of water. ;-)

Here ya go.
I copied and pasted what you said, so that you can't argue about it:
===============
This has already been covered including your immature nasty trollish insults
in the messages above. And because of your memory problems allow me to
repeat that I have always advocated keeping bettas ALONE. That's because in
MY EXPERIENCE they didn't do well with other fish for a variety of reasons
that have already been covered in the past. The females got along ok as I
already posted several times. The males *IN MY EXPERIENCE* were the problem
and that's why I keep them separate and in their own jars or bowls. Now if
you don't want me to post *MY EXPERIENCES* with bettas here you are out of
luck since this is an open forum for everyone. You may be happier to stay
in a moderated forum where you can tell the moderator who can and can't post
if their experience isn't like yours - you can't do that here.
--
KL....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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There's a very good reason you are not allowed to post on the group
that had to be formed because of your trol followers.
I am not a troll.
I was simply correcting false, or misleading statements.
And no, it's just you. I will correct anyone who states anything false
about Bettas.
Now before you go on again and again about how it's MY opinion and blah
blah blah, anything I say can be checked for fact. Go ahead. Stop
adivsing people like your experience with them is fact. You kept them
in tiny bowls on your wondow sill for goodness sake until you finanlly
ungraded to them a larger container after god knows how long of going
round and round with you. You even said that you were starting to think
it was better to house them in larger tanks.
So get over yourself with the "I'm trolling you" crap. If you don't
want to be corrected, don't say bullcrap. It's quite simple.
Now quit your whining!

This should have read as follows...

On 23 Jul 2006 08:48:32 -0700, "Tynk" wrote:

Thanks.
I have to do what I can to save the poor Bettas living in cold jars!
Sheesh.
Some folks just want to argue.
I just like telling the facts.

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:08:22 -0500, [-=LÈGIÖN=-]
wrote:
Amen...I am seriously considering another 55 gal and just stock it
with female bettas...I'm serious. Just females. If this is a
problem...SOMEBODY STOP ME. PLEASE.

No way! I'm not stopping you, hehe.
You will have a very cool tank in deed.
The only hard part will be when you add them, do it all at once. That
way they are all on neutral territory. This can be done by buying stock
and keeping them in quarantine tanks, or other tanks until you get the
desired amount for the 55g.
You will have bickering at first, as they need to figure out their
hierarchy.
Once that's established you'll see all their every day type body
language. This is so interesting to me and I can't get enough of it,
lol.
You'll soon figure out what each posture or finflash means for the
situation. You'll soon learn who is the alpha..all the way down to the
omega (lowest in rank).
You'll see action when another female wants to take over that role and
the difference between that and just "testing" the alpha. Now when you
have 2 females that refuse to back down, one needs to go to another
home. This is on the rare side, but since you have other tanks already,
it shouldn't be a problem for you.
There are several fin variations available now, and every color of the
rainbow to choose from. Who ever says females are drab, ugly, colorless
fish are ignorant and needs to do some research, lol.

I find the females far more attractive (just my taste)...I'm not
really big on any fish with gobs and gobs of plummage as I like to
call it.

But I realize for the newcomer how one could be attracted to the male
for its large display. It does make the buyer stop and pause.

I am however a big fan of the female betta's profile. It just has
the ideal outline (matter of taste). My experience with my first
male betta started out with his plummage getting damaged and eaten up
by his girlfriend. It grew back fine...wasn't a case of finrot..just
a fish with jagged fins for about 3 weeks.
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[-=\\LÈGIÖN//=-]
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I remember coming home 45 minutes late one day, and my wife (then)
chewed my butt a good one. We had an appointment at the bank with a
loan officer. There were no cell phones then. I was stuck in traffic
that had backed up from a chemical tanker that had jack-knifed on the
highway. I didn't have an SUV to blunder around the fields around the
accident like you'd see on the commercials. It was a Chevy Caprice
Wagon. Yep, that was me, picking up the ladies in my station wagon.

Yep. Scored hundreds of dates in that old rust bucket, rattle-trap of a
car.

""[-=LÈGIÖN=-]"" wrote in message
...
I remember coming home 45 minutes late one day, and my wife (then) chewed
my butt a good one. We had an appointment at the bank with a loan officer.
There were no cell phones then.

I still don't have a cell-phone. :-( I should see about getting one.
Bummer getting caught in traffic.... that seldom happens here in the
boondocks.

I was stuck in traffic
that had backed up from a chemical tanker that had jack-knifed on the
highway. I didn't have an SUV to blunder around the fields around the
accident like you'd see on the commercials. It was a Chevy Caprice Wagon.
Yep, that was me, picking up the ladies in my station wagon.

Out on the highway? LOL!!!!

Yep. Scored hundreds of dates in that old rust bucket, rattle-trap of a
car.

A lift is a lift. Beats walking. ;-)
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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"Tynk" wrote in message
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There's a very good reason you are not allowed to post on the group
that had to be formed because of your trol followers.

Troll followes like YOU? Your doing exactly what the trolls did! :-)
You're no different than they are/were.

I am not a troll.

Then why are you acting like one?

I was simply correcting false, or misleading statements.

In YOUR OPINION. You think only your experiences and opinions should be
allowed here. That's also trollish.

And no, it's just you. I will correct anyone who states anything false
about Bettas.

FALSE in your OPINION.

------- snip the same old rude trollish BS. I've had enough of you and
the trolls ---------

KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Betta are individuals the same way old south american cichlids are.
thats how i see it anyway
kinda like adding a big oscar to your red devil tank
sure it usually works
but each time is different
and often it equals death
I try seperate my females from males in upturned clean soft drink bottles
this lets me see reactions (colour changes, fin raises and snapping) before
they can get at each other.
good way to see which of several chicks ya dude likes without risking deaths
and injurys
espec when some of me female deltas are worth a substantial amount of money!

"Tynk" wrote in message
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Köi-Lö wrote:

Yes, and they got along ok. A nip here and there but otherwise they lived
in relative peace.

You forgot the part about it depending on the individual personality of
each fish.
There are females from time to time that cannot be housed with certain
females, or some that can't be housed with any female.
This needs to be said *each* time.
It doesn't matter if you said it a month ago, or 20 minutes ago.
All Bettas are different and that needs to be said each time. You
should always have a back plan as well if it doesn't turn out the way
you want it to.
It's also so much easier when the females are spawn siblings.
Males things so much easier, as their hierarchy was figured out long
ago when they were babies.