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Jim April 8th 04 11:57 PM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
I'm thinking about adding an inside-the-liner bottom drain with an
external pump and filter.

Can anyone comment on bead filters or suggest something better? I've
got my eye on the Aquabead 2.5 CU. FT. model. Here's a link.

http://www.macarthurwatergardens.com...d_Filters.html

The pump I'm considering is a Dragon.

http://www.macarthurwatergardens.com...gon_pumps.html

I also would appreciate some suggestions for an internal bottom drain.

Thanks,

Jim
Zone 8a - Dallas, Texas
Pond, Veggie Filter, Pond Maintenance & Pond Tour Pics:
http://community.webshots.com/user/dallas75248

RichToyBox April 9th 04 01:04 AM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
Jim,

I like bead filters but you really need some form of settling tank between
the bottom drain and the bead filter. You might get by with Aqua
Ultraviolet Ultra Leaf Basket since it is so large. I found that the size
of the waste was such that it clogged the intake screen at the bottom of
bead filter reducing water flow, and was hard to blast back out of the
intake. I started out with only the bead filter the first year for my pond.
Then I added a TurboVortex, but it is too small for my ponds, clogged and
didn't backwash as well as it should, and it is mounted on the suction side
of the pump, so when it clogs is really reduces water flow. Then I took out
the TurboVortex and went with a vortex settling tank. This seems to be the
best fit for my pond.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Jim" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking about adding an inside-the-liner bottom drain with an
external pump and filter.

Can anyone comment on bead filters or suggest something better? I've
got my eye on the Aquabead 2.5 CU. FT. model. Here's a link.

http://www.macarthurwatergardens.com...d_Filters.html

The pump I'm considering is a Dragon.

http://www.macarthurwatergardens.com...gon_pumps.html

I also would appreciate some suggestions for an internal bottom drain.

Thanks,

Jim
Zone 8a - Dallas, Texas
Pond, Veggie Filter, Pond Maintenance & Pond Tour Pics:
http://community.webshots.com/user/dallas75248




RichToyBox April 9th 04 01:04 AM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
Jim,

I like bead filters but you really need some form of settling tank between
the bottom drain and the bead filter. You might get by with Aqua
Ultraviolet Ultra Leaf Basket since it is so large. I found that the size
of the waste was such that it clogged the intake screen at the bottom of
bead filter reducing water flow, and was hard to blast back out of the
intake. I started out with only the bead filter the first year for my pond.
Then I added a TurboVortex, but it is too small for my ponds, clogged and
didn't backwash as well as it should, and it is mounted on the suction side
of the pump, so when it clogs is really reduces water flow. Then I took out
the TurboVortex and went with a vortex settling tank. This seems to be the
best fit for my pond.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Jim" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking about adding an inside-the-liner bottom drain with an
external pump and filter.

Can anyone comment on bead filters or suggest something better? I've
got my eye on the Aquabead 2.5 CU. FT. model. Here's a link.

http://www.macarthurwatergardens.com...d_Filters.html

The pump I'm considering is a Dragon.

http://www.macarthurwatergardens.com...gon_pumps.html

I also would appreciate some suggestions for an internal bottom drain.

Thanks,

Jim
Zone 8a - Dallas, Texas
Pond, Veggie Filter, Pond Maintenance & Pond Tour Pics:
http://community.webshots.com/user/dallas75248




[email protected] April 9th 04 01:51 PM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
FOR GODS SAKE MEN .. quit with the damn imitation of Tim Taylor and the endless quest
for BIGGER, better and more machines. Make a veggie filter. Easy, simply, natural.
Ingrid

Jim wrote:
Can anyone comment on bead filters or suggest something better? I've
got my eye on the Aquabead 2.5 CU. FT. model. Here's a link.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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endorsements or recommendations I make.

[email protected] April 9th 04 01:51 PM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
FOR GODS SAKE MEN .. quit with the damn imitation of Tim Taylor and the endless quest
for BIGGER, better and more machines. Make a veggie filter. Easy, simply, natural.
Ingrid

Jim wrote:
Can anyone comment on bead filters or suggest something better? I've
got my eye on the Aquabead 2.5 CU. FT. model. Here's a link.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

GaneaRowenna April 9th 04 03:26 PM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
Subject: Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
From:
Date: 4/9/2004 5:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:


I just recently purchased a 3000psi Tsurumi pump. I dropped it into a 5 gallon
bucket with 3" holes drilled around for water flow, covered it with a black
mesh bag and dropped it in the bottom of my pond. I then built a filter out of
a 70 gal stock tank filled with swamp cooler pads and plants. Within a couple
of hours my pond was almost crystal clear. I should have done this last year.
I do not have any fancy skimmers, UV lights, etc. I do not even have a bottom
drain. My pond is looking great this year. I have done everything myself and
am very proud of it. I agree with Ingrid that a natural filter works great,
costs less and is much more fulfilling.
Shawn


FOR GODS SAKE MEN .. quit with the damn imitation of Tim Taylor and the
endless quest
for BIGGER, better and more machines. Make a veggie filter. Easy, simply,
natural.
Ingrid

Jim wrote:
Can anyone comment on bead filters or suggest something better? I've
got my eye on the Aquabead 2.5 CU. FT. model. Here's a link.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.





GaneaRowenna April 9th 04 03:26 PM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
Subject: Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
From:
Date: 4/9/2004 5:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:


I just recently purchased a 3000psi Tsurumi pump. I dropped it into a 5 gallon
bucket with 3" holes drilled around for water flow, covered it with a black
mesh bag and dropped it in the bottom of my pond. I then built a filter out of
a 70 gal stock tank filled with swamp cooler pads and plants. Within a couple
of hours my pond was almost crystal clear. I should have done this last year.
I do not have any fancy skimmers, UV lights, etc. I do not even have a bottom
drain. My pond is looking great this year. I have done everything myself and
am very proud of it. I agree with Ingrid that a natural filter works great,
costs less and is much more fulfilling.
Shawn


FOR GODS SAKE MEN .. quit with the damn imitation of Tim Taylor and the
endless quest
for BIGGER, better and more machines. Make a veggie filter. Easy, simply,
natural.
Ingrid

Jim wrote:
Can anyone comment on bead filters or suggest something better? I've
got my eye on the Aquabead 2.5 CU. FT. model. Here's a link.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.





Jim April 9th 04 03:31 PM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
FOR GODS SAKE MEN .. quit with the damn imitation of Tim Taylor
and the endless quest for BIGGER, better and more machines.
Make a veggie filter.


LOL Ingrid.... I have a veggie filter.

Jim
Zone 8a - Dallas, Texas
Pond, Veggie Filter, Pond Maintenance & Pond Tour Pics:
http://community.webshots.com/user/dallas75248

Jim April 9th 04 03:31 PM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
FOR GODS SAKE MEN .. quit with the damn imitation of Tim Taylor
and the endless quest for BIGGER, better and more machines.
Make a veggie filter.


LOL Ingrid.... I have a veggie filter.

Jim
Zone 8a - Dallas, Texas
Pond, Veggie Filter, Pond Maintenance & Pond Tour Pics:
http://community.webshots.com/user/dallas75248

GaneaRowenna April 9th 04 03:34 PM

Bead Filter, External Pump, and Bottom Drain.
 
I just recently purchased a 3000psi Tsurumi pump.

that should have been 3000gph. hehe


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