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Aroon May 23rd 07 05:48 PM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 
On May 23, 7:44 am, Wayne Sallee wrote:
You might see a duplicate of this post. I'm trying
out TeraNews.com. So far I'm not impressed. The
other post has not shown yet, so I'm sending this
one through Earthlink.
**

Yes, set up the protein skimmer from the beginning.
The wet dry filter will be helpful in curing the
live rock, but after you have established live rock,
and live sand, start taking the bioballs out a
little at a time so that the live rock and live sand
will do a better job of denitrifying.

You will need to hold off on the anemones, and you
will eventualy need to get hight intensity lighing
for the anemones. So right now you can window-shop
for lighting.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Aroon wrote on 5/23/2007 12:52 AM:



Hi,


I am in the process of setting up my first sal****er tank (55g), and
have a few questions. I have included my basic plans as well, in-case
anyone has any comments that could improve my first tank setup.


I have read many posts on various boards that discuss new tank setups
and include protein skimmers. Some say not to start the skimmer till
cycling of the tank is complete, but some say go with it.


I have purchased a coralife protein skimmer (needle-wheel), and a
proclear 75 wet/dry filter (sump-style).
I am planning on hanging the skimmer on the side of the wet/dry filter
that will placed under the tank stand.


The current state of the tank is that I have added sal****er to the
top which I mixed in the tank itself over a period of 3 days.. The
temp is set to 80degC. Wet/dry filter is running. I am planning on
purchasing 45lbs of fiji premium LR online any day now.


Is this too much rock to start with considering I have no experience?


Once I place the semi-cured live rock in the tank, should I start the
skimmer?


How many powerheads do I need in a 55G tank?
My guess is that the return pump from the wet/dry will produce decent
water motion for the kind of animals I would like (below). But, just
in-case I have also ordered a powersweep 228 powerhead. But, its not
in the tank yet.


My goal is a fish and invert tank. I am planning a hardy damsel to
start, then an ocellis clownfish, and then a six-line wrasse. other
than a snail or two to control algae, i was going to wait 6 months
before any inverts.


Are any anemones ok to add to this sort of tank b4 6 months?


Thanks for any comments on these plans, and answers my questions.


Cheers.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


thanks for the responses, Wayne and Kurt.
I will definitely start the skimmer when i get the LR.
and heed your other comments.
onwards and upwards!
cheers, Aroon


Wayne Sallee May 23rd 07 06:05 PM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 
Your welcome.

Your welcome.

Your welcome.

Your welcome.

I could not resist :-)

Also it's best to put base rock on the glass, and
put the calcium based sand around the base rock, and
then stack the live rock on top of the base rock. If
you just pile up the live rock on top of the sand,
then when things start to dig in the sand, you will
have an avalanche.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

Aroon wrote on 5/23/2007 11:48 AM:
On May 23, 7:44 am, Wayne Sallee wrote:
You might see a duplicate of this post. I'm trying
out TeraNews.com. So far I'm not impressed. The
other post has not shown yet, so I'm sending this
one through Earthlink.
**

Yes, set up the protein skimmer from the beginning.
The wet dry filter will be helpful in curing the
live rock, but after you have established live rock,
and live sand, start taking the bioballs out a
little at a time so that the live rock and live sand
will do a better job of denitrifying.

You will need to hold off on the anemones, and you
will eventualy need to get hight intensity lighing
for the anemones. So right now you can window-shop
for lighting.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Aroon wrote on 5/23/2007 12:52 AM:



Hi,
I am in the process of setting up my first sal****er tank (55g), and
have a few questions. I have included my basic plans as well, in-case
anyone has any comments that could improve my first tank setup.
I have read many posts on various boards that discuss new tank setups
and include protein skimmers. Some say not to start the skimmer till
cycling of the tank is complete, but some say go with it.
I have purchased a coralife protein skimmer (needle-wheel), and a
proclear 75 wet/dry filter (sump-style).
I am planning on hanging the skimmer on the side of the wet/dry filter
that will placed under the tank stand.
The current state of the tank is that I have added sal****er to the
top which I mixed in the tank itself over a period of 3 days.. The
temp is set to 80degC. Wet/dry filter is running. I am planning on
purchasing 45lbs of fiji premium LR online any day now.
Is this too much rock to start with considering I have no experience?
Once I place the semi-cured live rock in the tank, should I start the
skimmer?
How many powerheads do I need in a 55G tank?
My guess is that the return pump from the wet/dry will produce decent
water motion for the kind of animals I would like (below). But, just
in-case I have also ordered a powersweep 228 powerhead. But, its not
in the tank yet.
My goal is a fish and invert tank. I am planning a hardy damsel to
start, then an ocellis clownfish, and then a six-line wrasse. other
than a snail or two to control algae, i was going to wait 6 months
before any inverts.
Are any anemones ok to add to this sort of tank b4 6 months?
Thanks for any comments on these plans, and answers my questions.
Cheers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


thanks for the responses, Wayne and Kurt.
I will definitely start the skimmer when i get the LR.
and heed your other comments.
onwards and upwards!
cheers, Aroon


KurtG May 23rd 07 06:22 PM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Also it's best to put base rock on the glass, and put the calcium based
sand around the base rock, and then stack the live rock on top of the
base rock. If you just pile up the live rock on top of the sand, then
when things start to dig in the sand, you will have an avalanche.


My Lawnmower Blenny is a voracious digger. He also filled up a cave
with sand to build his own personal space. Everything but a mail box.

He does a little dance in front of the glass every night. My kids call
it his break dance because he flips around. They are working on queuing
up a song on the computer, so he can do it music.

Ugly thing, but they definitely grow on you.

btw, welcome to the hobby. Hopefully, you've been warned that it is
addicting.

--Kurt (currently acclimating a purple xenia)

Pondmeister May 23rd 07 06:44 PM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 
Quit your freaking lying you moron. All but a mailbox, yea ****ing
right ...so I assume he also has a micro wave oven and a TV and Washer
and dryer to..your a dumbass Kurt! That dance he is doing is simply
his way of shaking his dick at his moron keeper.

On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:22:23 -0400, KurtG
wrote:

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Also it's best to put base rock on the glass, and put the calcium based
sand around the base rock, and then stack the live rock on top of the
base rock. If you just pile up the live rock on top of the sand, then
when things start to dig in the sand, you will have an avalanche.

My Lawnmower Blenny is a voracious digger. He also filled up a cave
with sand to build his own personal space. Everything but a mail box.

He does a little dance in front of the glass every night. My kids call
it his break dance because he flips around. They are working on queuing
up a song on the computer, so he can do it music.

Ugly thing, but they definitely grow on you.

btw, welcome to the hobby. Hopefully, you've been warned that it is
addicting.

--Kurt (currently acclimating a purple xenia)



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

kryppy@. May 27th 07 05:26 AM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:09 -0500, Pondmeister
wrote:

Quit your freaking lying you moron. All but a mailbox, yea ****ing
right ...so I assume he also has a micro wave oven and a TV and Washer
and dryer to..your a dumbass Kurt! That dance he is doing is simply
his way of shaking his dick at his moron keeper.



LMFAO. I love usenet!!!!!!!

Wayne Sallee May 27th 07 01:56 PM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 
Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
them. Put the trolls in your kill file.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


kryppy@. wrote on 5/26/2007 11:26 PM:
I love usenet!!!!!!!

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from
http://www.teranews.com


kryppy@. May 27th 07 08:35 PM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 
On Sun, 27 May 2007 07:56:45 -0500, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
them. Put the trolls in your kill file.



Sadly, I could care less.

I never use filters. Even a total troll has something useful to
contribute once in a blue moon, and when everyone has an idiot like
this blocked, they are free to spread unchecked BS to newbies.

I would probably filter me right now, because I intend to give this
guy crap from one end of the usenet to the other.

Perhaps if I have something to contribute I will just nymshift, like I
plan to do about 3000 times in all the pond newsgroups tonight. ;)



Wayne Sallee May 27th 07 08:37 PM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 
Plonk

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


kryppy@. wrote on 5/27/2007 3:35 PM:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 07:56:45 -0500, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
them. Put the trolls in your kill file.



Sadly, I could care less.

I never use filters. Even a total troll has something useful to
contribute once in a blue moon, and when everyone has an idiot like
this blocked, they are free to spread unchecked BS to newbies.

I would probably filter me right now, because I intend to give this
guy crap from one end of the usenet to the other.

Perhaps if I have something to contribute I will just nymshift, like I
plan to do about 3000 times in all the pond newsgroups tonight. ;)



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from
http://www.teranews.com


Pondmeister May 27th 07 08:57 PM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 


uh huh, Wayne Salle doing what Wayne does best!



On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:37:47 -0400, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Plonk

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


kryppy@. wrote on 5/27/2007 3:35 PM:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 07:56:45 -0500, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
them. Put the trolls in your kill file.


Sadly, I could care less.

I never use filters. Even a total troll has something useful to
contribute once in a blue moon, and when everyone has an idiot like
this blocked, they are free to spread unchecked BS to newbies.

I would probably filter me right now, because I intend to give this
guy crap from one end of the usenet to the other.

Perhaps if I have something to contribute I will just nymshift, like I
plan to do about 3000 times in all the pond newsgroups tonight. ;)





-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

kryppy@. May 27th 07 09:16 PM

New Tank Setup - comments and questions
 
On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:57:20 -0500, Pondmeister
wrote:



uh huh, Wayne Salle doing what Wayne does best!


What is that?

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:37:47 -0400, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Plonk

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


kryppy@. wrote on 5/27/2007 3:35 PM:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 07:56:45 -0500, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Ignore the trolls or you will get plonked along with
them. Put the trolls in your kill file.


Sadly, I could care less.

I never use filters. Even a total troll has something useful to
contribute once in a blue moon, and when everyone has an idiot like
this blocked, they are free to spread unchecked BS to newbies.

I would probably filter me right now, because I intend to give this
guy crap from one end of the usenet to the other.

Perhaps if I have something to contribute I will just nymshift, like I
plan to do about 3000 times in all the pond newsgroups tonight. ;)





-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!




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