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KurtG[_3_] January 31st 08 11:25 PM

Titanium Chicken Wire
 

My gray angel is harassing my claims. I had them attached, growing, and
about as happy as a clam can be, but now they are on their sides in the
sand.

I know they can't continue that way, so what to do? I guess I just need
to move the clams or the angel. Or, use titanium chicken wire to keep
the angel away from the clams. Any other ideas?

Crud, I don't have another tank set up. I guess I'll need to get a move
on. I have a 29 gallon which would be easiest. And, I have a 220g
which could probably host both of my angels which I want to do in the
long run to see if I can mate them.

--Kurt

Wayne Sallee February 1st 08 12:00 AM

Titanium Chicken Wire
 
Interesting. I did not know there was titanium
chicken wire.

I think the best thing would be to take the angel
out, unless you like the looks of chicken wire in
your tank.

One other option would be to create a natural
division that would keep the angel on one side of
the tank. But then that would reduce space for for
the angel to live. If the tank was big enough that
would be fine.


Wayne Sallee



KurtG wrote on 1/31/2008 6:25 PM:
My gray angel is harassing my claims. I had them attached, growing, and
about as happy as a clam can be, but now they are on their sides in the
sand.

I know they can't continue that way, so what to do? I guess I just need
to move the clams or the angel. Or, use titanium chicken wire to keep
the angel away from the clams. Any other ideas?

Crud, I don't have another tank set up. I guess I'll need to get a move
on. I have a 29 gallon which would be easiest. And, I have a 220g
which could probably host both of my angels which I want to do in the
long run to see if I can mate them.

--Kurt


KurtG[_3_] February 1st 08 12:11 AM

Titanium Chicken Wire
 
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Interesting. I did not know there was titanium chicken wire.


I'm not sure either, but I was joking about it. A barrier would work.

--Kurt

Wayne Sallee February 1st 08 09:38 PM

Titanium Chicken Wire
 
Also, in case someone does not know, you can use
aluminum in salt water, and it won't corrode, as
long as you keep it under water.

Wayne Sallee



KurtG wrote on 1/31/2008 7:11 PM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Interesting. I did not know there was titanium chicken wire.


I'm not sure either, but I was joking about it. A barrier would work.

--Kurt


charlie February 1st 08 09:54 PM

Titanium Chicken Wire
 
you can get Ti wire. a cheap source of Ti is bicycle spokes, but make sure
they are solid Ti. you'd need to ask for them at a bike repair shop, for
example.

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Also, in case someone does not know, you can use aluminum in salt water,
and it won't corrode, as long as you keep it under water.

Wayne Sallee



KurtG wrote on 1/31/2008 7:11 PM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Interesting. I did not know there was titanium chicken wire.


I'm not sure either, but I was joking about it. A barrier would work.

--Kurt




Pszemol February 3rd 08 04:02 AM

Titanium Chicken Wire
 
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ...
Also, in case someone does not know, you can use
aluminum in salt water, and it won't corrode, as
long as you keep it under water.


Does not dissolve, even slowly?

Wayne Sallee February 3rd 08 01:33 PM

Titanium Chicken Wire
 
After about 2 years of use, I can't see any
deterioration.

When it is left outside the water and salt crystals
form, then serious deterioration occurs. Tough I
have an aluminum rod that is in the sump in a
position that it is in and out of the water, and yet
it has not deteriorated any that I can see. It is
encrusted with coralline algae, and other encrusting
stuff.

Try it with aluminum foil. Stick a piece in your
sump and pull it out, let it sit in your sump, just
outside of the water and let the drops of salt dry.
Give it a few days, and you will see holes in the
aluminum foil. Then stick it back in the water and
leave it submerged. Also at this time ad a fresh
piece of aluminum foil left completely submerged,
and watch what happens. You will see that there will
be no more deterioration.

Wayne Sallee



Pszemol wrote on 2/2/2008 11:02 PM:
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Also, in case someone does not know, you can use aluminum in salt
water, and it won't corrode, as long as you keep it under water.


Does not dissolve, even slowly?


KurtG[_6_] February 3rd 08 03:03 PM

Dumbass leading wanna be dumbasses..............Pszemol............youjknow better than this dude.............Wayne is clueless!
 
On Feb 3, 7:33*am, Wayne Sallee wrote:
After about 2 years of use, I can't see any
deterioration.

When it is left outside the water and salt crystals
form, then serious deterioration occurs. Tough I
have an aluminum rod that is in the sump in a
position that it is in and out of the water, and yet
it has not deteriorated any that I can see. It is
encrusted with coralline algae, and other encrusting
stuff.

Try it with aluminum foil. Stick a piece in your
sump and pull it out, let it sit in your sump, just
outside of the water and let the drops of salt dry.
Give it a few days, and you will see holes in the
aluminum foil. Then stick it back in the water and
leave it submerged. Also at this time ad a fresh
piece of aluminum foil left completely submerged,
and watch what happens. You will see that there will
be no more deterioration.

Wayne Sallee


Pszemol wrote on 2/2/2008 11:02 PM:



"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Also, in case someone does not know, you can use aluminum in salt
water, and it won't corrode, as long as you keep it under water.


Does not dissolve, even slowly?- Hide quoted text -


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Yea ****ing right, like there is on ly one grade of aluminum and most
grades of aluminum that are corrosion resist have alloys of copper as
part of their mix.dumbass assumptions on waynes part again folks.
Aluminum does not belong in water expecially salt water unless its of
the marine grade with copper added which would be 110% contrary to
what is normally follkowed and [preached on about adding any metals
except perhaps stainless in a SW system and even with stainless there
is some alloys which will rust and others that will not. Listen to a
dumbass and use aluminum wire.duh!

Pszemol February 3rd 08 04:49 PM

Titanium Chicken Wire
 
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ...
After about 2 years of use, I can't see any
deterioration.

When it is left outside the water and salt crystals
form, then serious deterioration occurs. Tough I
have an aluminum rod that is in the sump in a
position that it is in and out of the water, and yet
it has not deteriorated any that I can see. It is
encrusted with coralline algae, and other encrusting
stuff.


So even the part which is outside of water did not corrode?

Try it with aluminum foil. Stick a piece in your
sump and pull it out, let it sit in your sump, just
outside of the water and let the drops of salt dry.
Give it a few days, and you will see holes in the
aluminum foil. Then stick it back in the water and
leave it submerged. Also at this time ad a fresh
piece of aluminum foil left completely submerged,
and watch what happens. You will see that there will
be no more deterioration.


Interesting...

Why then reef chiller manufacturers use expensive
and very hard to work with titanium instead of using
cheap and easy to work with aluminium ?

Wayne Sallee February 3rd 08 05:45 PM

Titanium Chicken Wire
 
They either don't know any different, or they figure
that people will let them be exposed to air and salt.

Wayne Sallee



Pszemol wrote on 2/3/2008 11:49 AM:
Interesting...

Why then reef chiller manufacturers use expensive
and very hard to work with titanium instead of using
cheap and easy to work with aluminium ?



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