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K30a August 6th 03 12:22 AM

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DIVINE INTERVENTION


If I ever invent a fool proof way to get
rid of algae this is what I'm naming it...


k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html

Anne Lurie August 6th 03 08:24 PM

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I tried to send old Remo a private email when he hit rec.gardens.roses, but
his mailbox was full (probably because he hit a *lot* of newsgroups, based
on what I turned up by doing a group-google), sooooooooo I got his attention
by reviewing his book on Amazon.com -- hey, I figured at least he might
read that!

Old Remo didn't like that one bit, nosirree.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC





"Warren" wrote in message
news:0TWXa.72936$Ho3.10624@sccrnsc03...
R R wrote:
This is only a test..........

Remo Rosati, author
DIVINE INTERVENTION



Sorry, Remo. You fail.

Over 400 groups with "test" in their names on a typical newsfeed, and
you managed to crosspost into 5 groups that don't even have a "t", let
along "test" in their names.

Say... Aren't you the guy who tried making an advertisement for a
romance novel appear to be an on-topic post by saying something insipid
that could have been on-topic if it were in the right context? You
failed then, too.

Usenet was not invented for you to make these posts any more than the
telephone poles was invented to hold your "Loose 40 Pounds, Ask Me
How..." signs.

Sorry. I don't usually respond to trolls like RR, but I'm just in that
kind of mood today.

--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.





K30a August 6th 03 09:07 PM

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Searched by name in Amazon,
Remo Rosati
and found the book.
And Anne's review!
The site doesn't say much about what the book is about but this
snippet gives a clue

Customers interested in *Divine Intervention* may also be interested in:
Sponsored Links
* Intervention Specialists
A national organization of professional interventionists
www.addictionintervention.com


I guess we Porgs qualify?
But do we want to be cured?
What kind of people would do an intervention with
a ponder?

Grass lovers?
Frog phobics?
People who think the only good fish is
the deep fried kind?

Here is the Porg explanation for new folks.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PORG - A term used on rec.ponds from time to time. If you are a Star Trek fan,
the Next Generation specifically, you might remember the evil Borg. Half living
creatures, half robots, flying around the universe assimilating new species
into their collective. Their favorite line, delivered in cold robotic voices,
is 'resistance is futile, you will be assimilated".
We rec.ponders feel the same way about ponding. Watch out you are about to be
assimilated into the Porg collective! We will be here to help with the details.
Remember resistance is futile....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html

ajames54 August 6th 03 10:16 PM

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On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 19:24:50 GMT, "Anne Lurie"
wrote:

I tried to send old Remo a private email when he hit rec.gardens.roses, but
his mailbox was full (probably because he hit a *lot* of newsgroups, based
on what I turned up by doing a group-google), sooooooooo I got his attention
by reviewing his book on Amazon.com -- hey, I figured at least he might
read that!

Old Remo didn't like that one bit, nosirree.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC





Great review!
I found it very helpful ... and voted that way!

K30a August 6th 03 10:19 PM

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Heather wrote what is a troll?????

A troll, or his close cousin, the spammer, can be one of many things ~

a) a socially maladjusted young male who sees posting stuff and nonsense and
inflammatory comments on newsgroups as a satisfactory substitute for his lack
of beer, accommodating girls and skittles in his life.

b-a) a rabid free enterpriser who buys into the theory that 100,000,000,000
posts about his product or service will result in one person purchasing his
wares. (PS - half your post viewers don't own anything that can be
lengthened...)


b-b) the same rabid free enterpriser who thinks we can be fooled into checking
out his merchandise by pretending to be an actual poster (gardening - test
post). We've been there, done that. This troll needs an intervention by
irritated newsgroupers to stop. Rec.ponders can hold him underwater with a
hungry snapping turtle.

c) the absolute bottom dwellers, lower than leeches, bloodworms and anaerobic
bacteria - the pornographer spammer who thinks we really need to view naked
people and what they do with various and sundry farm animals. We get enough of
that with frogs breeding and koi spawning.






k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html

john rutz August 7th 03 12:23 AM

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ajames54 wrote:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 19:24:50 GMT, "Anne Lurie"
wrote:


I tried to send old Remo a private email when he hit rec.gardens.roses, but
his mailbox was full (probably because he hit a *lot* of newsgroups, based
on what I turned up by doing a group-google), sooooooooo I got his attention
by reviewing his book on Amazon.com -- hey, I figured at least he might
read that!

Old Remo didn't like that one bit, nosirree.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC






Great review!
I found it very helpful ... and voted that way!



--
I poste my own he aint gonna like us ;-)




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com


Cybe R. Wizard August 7th 03 12:49 AM

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On 06 Aug 2003 21:19:32 GMT
ESPMER (K30a) wrote:

b-b) the same rabid free enterpriser who thinks we can be fooled into
checking out his merchandise by pretending to be an actual poster
(gardening - test post). We've been there, done that. This troll
needs an intervention by irritated newsgroupers to stop. Rec.ponders
can hold him underwater with a hungry snapping turtle.


Often times they munge their email address and their reply_to header,
but equally often a newsreader or ISP will put identifiers into post's
headers. Maybe a few dozen emails to the offender's ISP about spamming
and such would put a halt to some of them? It has worked well in other
groups.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

Cybe R. Wizard August 7th 03 12:54 AM

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On 06 Aug 2003 20:07:31 GMT
ESPMER (K30a) wrote:

Here is the Porg explanation for new folks.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PORG - A term used on rec.ponds from time to time. If you are a Star
Trek fan, the Next Generation specifically, you might remember the
evil Borg. Half living creatures, half robots, flying around the
universe assimilating new species into their collective. Their
favorite line, delivered in cold robotic voices, is 'resistance is
futile, you will be assimilated". We rec.ponders feel the same way
about ponding. Watch out you are about to be assimilated into the Porg
collective! We will be here to help with the details. Remember
resistance is futile.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

k30a


Someone, I forget who, added, "...you will be pond elated."
I like that, it's in keeping with the original BORG phrase, it's punny
(which has special meaning for me), and I hereby nominate it as a
regular inclusion.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

K30a August 7th 03 01:01 AM

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Cybe wrote Someone, I forget who, added, "...you will be pond elated

I'm pretty sure jj coined that phrase.
I will check with her.
I have an email in the mailbox from her right now.


k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html

~ jan JJsPond.us August 7th 03 07:17 AM

Gardening - test
 
Here is the Porg explanation for new folks.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PORG - snipped extremely long explanation by K30s ;o)


Cybe R. Wizard replied:
Someone, I forget who, added, "...you will be pond elated."
I like that, it's in keeping with the original BORG phrase, it's punny
(which has special meaning for me), and I hereby nominate it as a
regular inclusion.


Tis I (Ye Ole Queen) the *someone* of whom you speak:

The Borg said:
"We are _Borg_ resistant is futile, you will be assimilated."
The Porg say:
"We are Porg, resistant IS futile, you will be pond-elated."

P - Pond,
O - Oriented,
R - Recreational,
G - Group

Hmmmm, and looking at this again, I guess one could say a ponder is always
POed. :o)

I figure if they aren't aware of Star Trek & the Borg they aren't reading
this newsgroup either. ;o) ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

K30a August 7th 03 06:14 PM

Gardening - test
 

Question.
If this post was cross posted in the first place, Anne mentioned several
gardening groups it showed up on... is it still being cross posted?
I'm posting on rec.ponds here.

k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html

Anne Lurie August 7th 03 06:41 PM

Gardening - test
 
Unless you take care to remove the extraneous groups, any "group reply" will
go to all the groups that received the post to which you are replying.

You can tell by looking closely at the To: list for each message. These
things can really deteriorate fast because suddenly posters of a particular
group are seeing posts from strangers, etc., and so on.

To confuse this issue even more, we've suddenly picked up another "anne"
(gasp!) here in rec.ponds!

What's the big complaint about top posting, anyway? Unless there are
multiple parts to debate, it makes a *lot* more sense to me -- at least
it's much easier to figure exactly who the current poster is.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"K30a" wrote in message
...

Question.
If this post was cross posted in the first place, Anne mentioned several
gardening groups it showed up on... is it still being cross posted?
I'm posting on rec.ponds here.

k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html




K30a August 7th 03 06:50 PM

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Anne wrote Unless you take care to remove the extraneous groups, any "group
reply" will
go to all the groups

Hmmmm. Primitive AOL doesn't seem to have a button for that (MAC on 5.0).
But it does say at the top that it is posting to rec.ponds and no other group
is listed.
I feel like we are eavesdropping on some other groups squabble. ;-)





k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html

BenignVanilla August 7th 03 07:16 PM

Gardening - test
 
I think all top posters should be shot.

BV.

"Anne Lurie" wrote in message
.com...
Unless you take care to remove the extraneous groups, any "group reply"

will
go to all the groups that received the post to which you are replying.

You can tell by looking closely at the To: list for each message. These
things can really deteriorate fast because suddenly posters of a

particular
group are seeing posts from strangers, etc., and so on.

To confuse this issue even more, we've suddenly picked up another "anne"
(gasp!) here in rec.ponds!

What's the big complaint about top posting, anyway? Unless there are
multiple parts to debate, it makes a *lot* more sense to me -- at least
it's much easier to figure exactly who the current poster is.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"K30a" wrote in message
...

Question.
If this post was cross posted in the first place, Anne mentioned several
gardening groups it showed up on... is it still being cross posted?
I'm posting on rec.ponds here.

k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html






K30a August 7th 03 07:45 PM

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BV wrote I think all top posters should be shot.

I've seen this complaint for years and don't know what it is? Is it when
everything ever written in a thread comes first and then the reply is waaaay
down there at the very end?


k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html

Nedra August 7th 03 09:47 PM

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Bottom posters just don't get read on my machine ;-)
Why should I scroll thru dozens of other posts to reply?
I have tagged onto the one I want to reply to.

I top post ... always!

So there, BV .... how do you post a tongue sticking out?
LOLOLOL!!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"K30a" wrote in message
...
BV wrote I think all top posters should be shot.

I've seen this complaint for years and don't know what it is? Is it when
everything ever written in a thread comes first and then the reply is

waaaay
down there at the very end?


k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html




john rutz August 8th 03 01:31 AM

Gardening - test
 


Nedra wrote:
Bottom posters just don't get read on my machine ;-)
Why should I scroll thru dozens of other posts to reply?
I have tagged onto the one I want to reply to.

I top post ... always!

So there, BV .... how do you post a tongue sticking out?
LOLOLOL!!

Nedra

thats why I always cut and leave what is pertinent to my answer so
dummys like me can figure out what Im talking about
ones that post an answer with no clue to which part of the thread they
are answering drive me nuts


John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com


BenignVanilla August 8th 03 02:55 PM

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Nedra...I think you missed my joke...in that, I TOP POSTED saying all top
posters should be shot. Irony?

BV./

"Nedra" wrote in message
link.net...
Bottom posters just don't get read on my machine ;-)
Why should I scroll thru dozens of other posts to reply?
I have tagged onto the one I want to reply to.

I top post ... always!

So there, BV .... how do you post a tongue sticking out?
LOLOLOL!!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"K30a" wrote in message
...
BV wrote I think all top posters should be shot.

I've seen this complaint for years and don't know what it is? Is it when
everything ever written in a thread comes first and then the reply is

waaaay
down there at the very end?


k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html






Nedra August 8th 03 04:01 PM

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Ohhhhhh!! I completely missed that. Yep, your joke flew right
over my head. Not an *unusual* thing to happen to me ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...
Nedra...I think you missed my joke...in that, I TOP POSTED saying all top
posters should be shot. Irony?

BV./

"Nedra" wrote in message
link.net...
Bottom posters just don't get read on my machine ;-)
Why should I scroll thru dozens of other posts to reply?
I have tagged onto the one I want to reply to.

I top post ... always!

So there, BV .... how do you post a tongue sticking out?
LOLOLOL!!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"K30a" wrote in message
...
BV wrote I think all top posters should be shot.

I've seen this complaint for years and don't know what it is? Is it

when
everything ever written in a thread comes first and then the reply is

waaaay
down there at the very end?


k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html









mad August 9th 03 03:42 AM

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LOLOL
mad
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/ O O \
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From: "BenignVanilla"
Reply-To: "BenignVanilla"
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 14:16:51 -0400
Subject: Gardening - test

I think all top posters should be shot.

BV.

"Anne Lurie" wrote in message
.com...
Unless you take care to remove the extraneous groups, any "group reply"

will
go to all the groups that received the post to which you are replying.

You can tell by looking closely at the To: list for each message. These
things can really deteriorate fast because suddenly posters of a

particular
group are seeing posts from strangers, etc., and so on.

To confuse this issue even more, we've suddenly picked up another "anne"
(gasp!) here in rec.ponds!

What's the big complaint about top posting, anyway? Unless there are
multiple parts to debate, it makes a *lot* more sense to me -- at least
it's much easier to figure exactly who the current poster is.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"K30a" wrote in message
...

Question.
If this post was cross posted in the first place, Anne mentioned several
gardening groups it showed up on... is it still being cross posted?
I'm posting on rec.ponds here.

k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html








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~ jan JJsPond.us August 9th 03 06:43 AM

Gardening - test
 
Not crossing posting as we seem to have picked up some non-Porgers, but
what is a "top poster"? Or would that be what I'm doing now? ~ jan

No, but top-posters are.

[Franz Heymann]


For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being.


Not nearly as boring as seeing continued top posting.
If you think it boring to remind others of good manners, then so be it.

Oh never mind *PLONK*


I bet you did not plonk me.

[Franz Heymann]



See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

~ jan JJsPond.us August 9th 03 06:47 AM

Gardening - test
 
On 07 Aug 2003 17:50:48 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:

Anne wrote Unless you take care to remove the extraneous groups, any "group
reply" will
go to all the groups

Hmmmm. Primitive AOL doesn't seem to have a button for that (MAC on 5.0).
But it does say at the top that it is posting to rec.ponds and no other group
is listed.
I feel like we are eavesdropping on some other groups squabble. ;-)

K30, you'll have to use the kids' PC on this thread and see what it does
when you do a reply. Agent gives me the choice of posting to all, or just
current. ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

K30a August 9th 03 06:53 AM

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jj wrote K30, you'll have to use the kids' PC on this thread

The kids' PC just went light years beyond me when it went DSL... there isn't
enough time or brain power to figure it all out again ;-)




k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html

Nedra August 9th 03 12:00 PM

Gardening - test
 
Top posters are frowned on in most other newsgroups.
What you have posted is a top post. The kind I like.

What you usually post is a bottom post.... these are the
ones that quote the previous posts .... and then the current
post. These drive me to distraction... why I seldom answer
them. Wading thru all the posts.... Arrrggghhhhhhhh

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
Not crossing posting as we seem to have picked up some non-Porgers, but
what is a "top poster"? Or would that be what I'm doing now? ~ jan

No, but top-posters are.

[Franz Heymann]

For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are

being.

Not nearly as boring as seeing continued top posting.
If you think it boring to remind others of good manners, then so be it.

Oh never mind *PLONK*


I bet you did not plonk me.

[Franz Heymann]



See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website




Cybe R. Wizard August 10th 03 05:05 AM

Gardening - test
 
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 14:16:51 -0400
"BenignVanilla" wrote:

I think all top posters should be shot.

BV.


And lingering death to bigots!

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

john rutz August 10th 03 03:53 PM

Why top posting is bad. was: Gardening - test
 


wrote:
it is a nested set. how many of those little "" things indicate what words go with
what person. the one with the most was the first person in the queue.
99% of the time who said what and in what order isnt important anyway. That part of
the message is just reference.
OTOH, I just delete messages where all I see is quoted material at the top. I dont
bother to scroll down on the off chance there is something there. Ingrid


I sort by order recieved,, most times i can remember the gist of the
discusion.
if something comes in and I get lost I resort by thread and follow
the indicator lines back to the post that is being commented on this is
especialy handy when we have drifted completly off subject and someoone
who cant check every day or two posts from the origional discussion
after a week or so.





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com


Andrew Burgess August 10th 03 04:20 PM

OT: Why top posting is bad. was: Gardening - test
 
A: No
Q: Should I top post?


Cybe R. Wizard August 10th 03 09:01 PM

Why top posting is bad. was: Gardening - test
 
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 13:47:21 -0500
"Tom La Bron" wrote:

And I like it very much if others top post also. If you
are reading/interested in the thread you usually know the gist of what
is being relayed by the poster. In this message's case I have to page
down three time to just to read, "Done. Thanks. Cybe R Wizard."


There were only thirteen lines in my message. How is it possible that
you had to page down three times? Perhaps you need a good newsreader.
need to turn off the HTML, turn off most of the headers, or some other
thing that is giving you so much extra garbage?
Anyway, do whatever it is that you like best, regardless of the
conventions, long thought out and established, of the internet. After
all, Microsoft doesn't care for any of those conventions, why should
you?
Besides, I know how to either scroll down, page down, use 'end,' or just
delete the danged top postings and am not too lazy to do so.
At least I have HTML under control with /this/ cool newsreader.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

Cybe R. Wizard August 10th 03 09:05 PM

Gardening - test
 
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 11:00:01 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Top posters are frowned on in most other newsgroups.
What you have posted is a top post. The kind I like.

What you usually post is a bottom post.... these are the
ones that quote the previous posts .... and then the current
post. These drive me to distraction... why I seldom answer
them. Wading thru all the posts.... Arrrggghhhhhhhh

Nedra


And that's where snipping out the extranious junk comes in. Why waste
other's time and bandwidth with a bunch of text to which you are not
replying? Bottom posting /after good snipping/ is only polite but most
folks apparently don't wish to be polite. This wish is compounded by
Microsoft 'newsreaders' that give you a prompt at the top. Bad form,
still.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

Hal August 10th 03 09:10 PM

Why top posting is bad. was: Gardening - test
 
I think these references need updating.

Regards,

Hal


On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 04:02:51 GMT, "Cybe R. Wizard"
wrote:

http://www.jsiinc.com/newsgroup_document.htm
http://fmf.fwn.rug.nl/~anton/topposting.html



Nedra August 10th 03 09:42 PM

Gardening - test
 
Cybe, Please see SLOTHEAD's post in the thread you initiated:
"Why top posting is bad" ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Cybe R. Wizard" wrote in message
news:20030810150628.5df1716e.cyber_wizard@mindspri ng.com...
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 11:00:01 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Top posters are frowned on in most other newsgroups.
What you have posted is a top post. The kind I like.

What you usually post is a bottom post.... these are the
ones that quote the previous posts .... and then the current
post. These drive me to distraction... why I seldom answer
them. Wading thru all the posts.... Arrrggghhhhhhhh

Nedra


And that's where snipping out the extranious junk comes in. Why waste
other's time and bandwidth with a bunch of text to which you are not
replying? Bottom posting /after good snipping/ is only polite but most
folks apparently don't wish to be polite. This wish is compounded by
Microsoft 'newsreaders' that give you a prompt at the top. Bad form,
still.

Cybe R. Wizard
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Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
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Nedra August 11th 03 12:18 AM

Top post advocation. was: Gardening - test
 
I think it really depends upon your newsreader as to whether
or not the posts are easy to follow. OE has all the posts
lumped together. Little doubt as to what the subject is...
even when the subject changes frequently ;-)

I also think it is rather foolhardy to expect this group to adhere
to any method of posting ...
We ponders all have our own favorite ways of doing things -
and so it is and ever shall be :)

Nedra
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"Cybe R. Wizard" wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:42:02 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Cybe, Please see SLOTHEAD's post in the thread you initiated:
"Why top posting is bad" ...

Nedra


I saw it but I don't see how some random quotes from some source or the
other, mine or his/hers, make any difference to the main discussion. It
just seems natural to me to have written discussions follow a logical,
consistent, in-order order, if you will. Proper snippage, as I have
done, helps a lot, too, and the logical time progression of the thread,
however snipped or not, is preserved. However, as I've said, I don't
care how they are posted and there are no hard and fast rules. Some I
read and some I don't, top, bottom, or middle posted.

I frequent one group non-disclosable wherein the convention is to
top post exclusively, snipping everything else except the particular
text to which you are replying, but leaving it below your response. I
tell you, it's hard to follow sometimes.

In the pun group (alt.humor.puns) and the limerick groups
(alt.arts.limericks and alt,jokes.limericks) the convention is to bottom
post but snip nothing that has gone before, although posts are snipped
and a new subject line substituted accordingly whenever a thread forks
sufficiently.. Once again, though, continuity is established and
preserved in a logical time progression, regardless of the time of
propagation on any particular news server or anybody's idea of rules.

I prefer well snipped bottom posting. I read it all or not depending
upon mood and whether I am expecting responses to particular posts of
mine. Other than that I really don't care except it sure is easier
when there is at least agreement among the participants in any
particular group.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
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Cybe R. Wizard August 11th 03 02:06 AM

Top post advocation. was: Gardening - test
 
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:18:10 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

I think it really depends upon your newsreader as to whether
or not the posts are easy to follow. OE has all the posts
lumped together. Little doubt as to what the subject is...
even when the subject changes frequently ;-)

I also think it is rather foolhardy to expect this group to adhere
to any method of posting ...
We ponders all have our own favorite ways of doing things -
and so it is and ever shall be :)

Nedra


I am fully in your corner on that and think it's time, as is so often
the case on Usenet, to agree to disagree, but still remain buddies.
I'll read your top posts sometimes, you'll read my bottom posts
sometimes. OK?

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

K30a August 11th 03 02:12 AM

Top post advocation. was: Gardening - test
 

I think I'll post in the middle, just to even
things out a bit...
k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html

~ jan JJsPond.us August 11th 03 05:00 AM

Gardening - test
 
Bottom posting /after good snipping/ is only polite but most
folks apparently don't wish to be polite. This wish is compounded by
Microsoft 'newsreaders' that give you a prompt at the top. Bad form,
still. Cybe R. Wizard


I'm not sure if it's always rudeness or not knowing how to use their
editing features on their keyboards correctly. I'm curious, how many people
on here all know how to do a block highlight and delete? ~ jan

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Cybe R. Wizard August 11th 03 03:52 PM

Gardening - test
 
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:00:22 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond. us wrote:

... Bad form, still.
Cybe R. Wizard


I'm not sure if it's always rudeness or not knowing how to use their
editing features on their keyboards correctly. I'm curious, how many people
on here all know how to do a block highlight and delete? ~
jan


I like the block highlight and reply feature on your reader. It's a
feature that has been copied in my own newsreader (Sylpheed-claws) and
makes snipping very easy. Just highlight the text to which you wish to
reply, hit 'reply', and everything else is snipped for you. Good job,
Forte!

Cybe -posting from Pan right now to test it's new feature set.

mad August 11th 03 10:23 PM

Gardening - test
 
nope--just lazy...
mad


From: "Cybe R. Wizard"
Organization: Interdementia-nal Consortium of Wizardly Dudes
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:05:22 GMT
Subject: Gardening - test

Bottom posting /after good snipping/ is only polite but most
folks apparently don't wish to be polite.

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mad August 11th 03 10:28 PM

Top post advocation. was: Gardening - test
 
amen!
mad


From: "Nedra"
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:18:10 GMT
Subject: Top post advocation. was: Gardening - test

so it is and ever shall be :)

Nedra

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mad August 11th 03 10:34 PM

Gardening - test
 


From: ~ jan JJsPond.us
Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED
Newsgroups.
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:00:22 -0700
Subject: Gardening - test

how many people
on here all know how to do a block highlight and delete? ~ jan


i do--- LOL
mad

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~ jan JJsPond.us August 13th 03 07:35 AM

Why top posting is bad. was: Gardening - test
 
Besides, I know how to either scroll down, page down, use 'end,' or just
delete the danged top postings and am not too lazy to do so.
At least I have HTML under control with /this/ cool newsreader.

Cybe R. Wizard


Have to agree here. When I'm reading rec.ponds one finger of my right hand
sits on Delete an another on Page Down. Delete gives me the next message,
Page down to read all, delete, page down, continue. Only time my hands are
moving else where is to type, or drink tea. ;o)

But then, I really don't care if one is on top or bottom, I'm flexible.
evil smirk ~ jan

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