Plant Swap Solution
 

A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you, as a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad either as a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have all of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to search using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address (considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the poster.

Any thoughts?

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi BV:

First thought that comes to mind is the border restrictions between the US
and Canada. When listing/asking for plants a field that asks for location
would be a good idea. In the description people could put a link to their
own sites if they have pictures. (Used to be a programmer)

Heather
SW Ontario

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you, as a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad either as
a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have all
of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to search
using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address (considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi BV:

First thought that comes to mind is the border restrictions between the US
and Canada. When listing/asking for plants a field that asks for location
would be a good idea. In the description people could put a link to their
own sites if they have pictures. (Used to be a programmer)

Heather
SW Ontario

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you, as a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad either as
a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have all
of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to search
using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address (considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

"Heather" wrote in message
. ..
Hi BV:

First thought that comes to mind is the border restrictions between the US
and Canada. When listing/asking for plants a field that asks for location
would be a good idea. In the description people could put a link to their
own sites if they have pictures. (Used to be a programmer)
snip

Pictures, URL's, etc. will be possible. Good tip on locations, Thanks.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

"Heather" wrote in message
. ..
Hi BV:

First thought that comes to mind is the border restrictions between the US
and Canada. When listing/asking for plants a field that asks for location
would be a good idea. In the description people could put a link to their
own sites if they have pictures. (Used to be a programmer)
snip

Pictures, URL's, etc. will be possible. Good tip on locations, Thanks.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

On 5/5/04 12:16 PM, "Benign Vanilla" wrote:

A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be a
great thing to have.

That was me!



I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad either as a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have all of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to search using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address (considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the poster.

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5 days, or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

I was wondering about the implications of sending plants like water hyacinth
to places where it's illegal. Would the site make that connection or would
the purchaser/seller just be responsible for knowing that.

As to the spam, could a purchaser enter his info in a text screen and your
database would generate an actual email to the seller rather than a link.

Joe



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On 5/5/04 12:16 PM, "Benign Vanilla" wrote:

A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be a
great thing to have.

That was me!



I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad either as a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have all of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to search using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address (considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the poster.

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5 days, or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

I was wondering about the implications of sending plants like water hyacinth
to places where it's illegal. Would the site make that connection or would
the purchaser/seller just be responsible for knowing that.

As to the spam, could a purchaser enter his info in a text screen and your
database would generate an actual email to the seller rather than a link.

Joe



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On Wed, 5 May 2004 15:16:34 -0400, "Benign Vanilla"
wrote:

A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would
be a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design
ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss
vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you, as
a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad
either as a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have
all of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to
search using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address
(considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

Sounds good to me, BV. I sure could use some plants and have so much
primrose it might take over the grass, trees, table, and chairs. So
count me in.

Plant Swap Solution
 

On Wed, 5 May 2004 15:16:34 -0400, "Benign Vanilla"
wrote:

A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would
be a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design
ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss
vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you, as
a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad
either as a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have
all of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to
search using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address
(considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

Sounds good to me, BV. I sure could use some plants and have so much
primrose it might take over the grass, trees, table, and chairs. So
count me in.

Plant Swap Solution
 

Didn't see the op. Go look here.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/exponds/?20387
It surprises me that no one here ever mentions garden web. I really like
it.

Ann

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you, as a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad either as
a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have all
of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to search
using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address (considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

Didn't see the op. Go look here.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/exponds/?20387
It surprises me that no one here ever mentions garden web. I really like
it.

Ann

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you, as a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad either as
a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have all
of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to search
using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address (considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

I've been there a few times. The problem with the plant swap the way they do
it, is there are still listing there from last year. So you have to scroll
through and see if they are still available. It is a pretty good web site
though.

Joe


On 5/5/04 4:36 PM, "Ann in Houston" wrote:

Didn't see the op. Go look here.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/exponds/?20387
It surprises me that no one here ever mentions garden web. I really like
it.



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I've been there a few times. The problem with the plant swap the way they do
it, is there are still listing there from last year. So you have to scroll
through and see if they are still available. It is a pretty good web site
though.

Joe


On 5/5/04 4:36 PM, "Ann in Houston" wrote:

Didn't see the op. Go look here.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/exponds/?20387
It surprises me that no one here ever mentions garden web. I really like
it.



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I did suggest gardenweb.






On Wed, 05 May 2004 23:36:06 GMT, "Ann in Houston"
wrote:

Didn't see the op. Go look here.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/exponds/?20387
It surprises me that no one here ever mentions garden web. I really
like
it.

Ann

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system
would be a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design
ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss
vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you,
as a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad
either as
a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we
have all
of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to
search
using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address
(considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

I did suggest gardenweb.






On Wed, 05 May 2004 23:36:06 GMT, "Ann in Houston"
wrote:

Didn't see the op. Go look here.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/exponds/?20387
It surprises me that no one here ever mentions garden web. I really
like
it.

Ann

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system
would be a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design
ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss
vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you,
as a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad
either as
a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we
have all
of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to
search
using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address
(considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

joe wrote in message ...

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5 days, or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

Could you possibly clear ALL ads say at the end of each month or on
the 1st & 15th of each month? Then we would be starting new once or
twice a month. It would also mean a person looking for something
would not have too much to look through. Just a thought.

Would this be for all types of 'other' plants or just 'water garden'
plants? A compromise could be if 1/2 of each swap had to be a 'water
garden' plant. For example: If I need a water lily but have no other
'water garden' plant to trade I could then offer an 'other' such as a
passionvine. But if I was looking for passionvine, I would have to
offer a 'water garden' plant in trade. In that way 1/2 of the trade
was pond related. Just a thought, we are a pond group. One the flip
side, of my brain, is the thought that we also need 'other' plants to
put around the outside of our ponds, so do we really want to limit it
to 'water garden' plants? Oh well, this is how my life goes, just
can't make up my mind!!

How about a section for depth to place under water from the person who
grew the plant? That could make a differece to some of us in what we
would take as a trade. Example: I have no shelves in my pond and
therefore don't want a lot of plants that I need to haul in more
cement blocks to add to my pond. So that info is something I would
want to know.

As for location, we could just sign that way such as here....

Sue W
Brooksville, FL

PS. I would love to see this go on for the entire pond site, because
for a lot of the posts it would be helpful to know where the writer is
located, the information makes more sense then.

Plant Swap Solution
 

joe wrote in message ...

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5 days, or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

Could you possibly clear ALL ads say at the end of each month or on
the 1st & 15th of each month? Then we would be starting new once or
twice a month. It would also mean a person looking for something
would not have too much to look through. Just a thought.

Would this be for all types of 'other' plants or just 'water garden'
plants? A compromise could be if 1/2 of each swap had to be a 'water
garden' plant. For example: If I need a water lily but have no other
'water garden' plant to trade I could then offer an 'other' such as a
passionvine. But if I was looking for passionvine, I would have to
offer a 'water garden' plant in trade. In that way 1/2 of the trade
was pond related. Just a thought, we are a pond group. One the flip
side, of my brain, is the thought that we also need 'other' plants to
put around the outside of our ponds, so do we really want to limit it
to 'water garden' plants? Oh well, this is how my life goes, just
can't make up my mind!!

How about a section for depth to place under water from the person who
grew the plant? That could make a differece to some of us in what we
would take as a trade. Example: I have no shelves in my pond and
therefore don't want a lot of plants that I need to haul in more
cement blocks to add to my pond. So that info is something I would
want to know.

As for location, we could just sign that way such as here....

Sue W
Brooksville, FL

PS. I would love to see this go on for the entire pond site, because
for a lot of the posts it would be helpful to know where the writer is
located, the information makes more sense then.

Plant Swap Solution
 

"joe" wrote in message
...
On 5/5/04 12:16 PM, "Benign Vanilla"
wrote:

A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be
a
great thing to have.

That was me!

I thought is was but was not sure. I really like the idea, and want to get
it implemented soon.

snip

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5 days,
or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

Each poster of either "a want" or "a have" ad will be able to choose an
expiration date. I'll probably default the date to 30 days. Once a swap has
taken place, and the products is gone, it would be up to the poster to close
the ad, if it is before the expiration date.

I was wondering about the implications of sending plants like water
hyacinth
to places where it's illegal. Would the site make that connection or would
the purchaser/seller just be responsible for knowing that.

The swap service will be nothing more then a coffee shop providing space for
porgs to trade. It will be up to the swappers to determine the costs, and
legality of what they are transporting. We plan to have notices on this, and
make it part of the sign up process. We'll also have links to some of the
government lists to assist.

As to the spam, could a purchaser enter his info in a text screen and your
database would generate an actual email to the seller rather than a link.

snip

This is what I was thinking of as well. We won't publish emails, but we'll
store them. Then a responder can click a link on the ad, and we'll send an
email to the poster, including the responders email. Then the transaction
can take place off-line. We'll only send the initial email.

BV.

Plant Swap Solution
 

"joe" wrote in message
...
On 5/5/04 12:16 PM, "Benign Vanilla"
wrote:

A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be
a
great thing to have.

That was me!

I thought is was but was not sure. I really like the idea, and want to get
it implemented soon.

snip

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5 days,
or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

Each poster of either "a want" or "a have" ad will be able to choose an
expiration date. I'll probably default the date to 30 days. Once a swap has
taken place, and the products is gone, it would be up to the poster to close
the ad, if it is before the expiration date.

I was wondering about the implications of sending plants like water
hyacinth
to places where it's illegal. Would the site make that connection or would
the purchaser/seller just be responsible for knowing that.

The swap service will be nothing more then a coffee shop providing space for
porgs to trade. It will be up to the swappers to determine the costs, and
legality of what they are transporting. We plan to have notices on this, and
make it part of the sign up process. We'll also have links to some of the
government lists to assist.

As to the spam, could a purchaser enter his info in a text screen and your
database would generate an actual email to the seller rather than a link.

snip

This is what I was thinking of as well. We won't publish emails, but we'll
store them. Then a responder can click a link on the ad, and we'll send an
email to the poster, including the responders email. Then the transaction
can take place off-line. We'll only send the initial email.

BV.

Plant Swap Solution
 

"Sue Walsh" wrote in message
om...
joe wrote in message
...

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5
days, or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

Could you possibly clear ALL ads say at the end of each month or on
the 1st & 15th of each month? Then we would be starting new once or
twice a month. It would also mean a person looking for something
would not have too much to look through. Just a thought.

Each ad will have an auto-expire date which will default to 30 days. The
poster can extend this, if (s)he chooses.

Would this be for all types of 'other' plants or just 'water garden'
plants? A compromise could be if 1/2 of each swap had to be a 'water
garden' plant. For example: If I need a water lily but have no other
'water garden' plant to trade I could then offer an 'other' such as a
passionvine. But if I was looking for passionvine, I would have to
offer a 'water garden' plant in trade. In that way 1/2 of the trade
was pond related. Just a thought, we are a pond group. One the flip
side, of my brain, is the thought that we also need 'other' plants to
put around the outside of our ponds, so do we really want to limit it
to 'water garden' plants? Oh well, this is how my life goes, just
can't make up my mind!!

I intend to make this for ANY type of item or service, not just pond plants.
So if you want to post pumps, filters, etc. I plant to categorize the posts
as "wants" and "haves", and then categorize like we do on
www.iheartmypond.com. So you could peruse by category, or just use the
search engine.
snip

BV.

Plant Swap Solution
 

"Sue Walsh" wrote in message
om...
joe wrote in message
...

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5
days, or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

Could you possibly clear ALL ads say at the end of each month or on
the 1st & 15th of each month? Then we would be starting new once or
twice a month. It would also mean a person looking for something
would not have too much to look through. Just a thought.

Each ad will have an auto-expire date which will default to 30 days. The
poster can extend this, if (s)he chooses.

Would this be for all types of 'other' plants or just 'water garden'
plants? A compromise could be if 1/2 of each swap had to be a 'water
garden' plant. For example: If I need a water lily but have no other
'water garden' plant to trade I could then offer an 'other' such as a
passionvine. But if I was looking for passionvine, I would have to
offer a 'water garden' plant in trade. In that way 1/2 of the trade
was pond related. Just a thought, we are a pond group. One the flip
side, of my brain, is the thought that we also need 'other' plants to
put around the outside of our ponds, so do we really want to limit it
to 'water garden' plants? Oh well, this is how my life goes, just
can't make up my mind!!

I intend to make this for ANY type of item or service, not just pond plants.
So if you want to post pumps, filters, etc. I plant to categorize the posts
as "wants" and "haves", and then categorize like we do on
www.iheartmypond.com. So you could peruse by category, or just use the
search engine.
snip

BV.

Plant Swap Solution
 

Ann -
Neat site if you live in the US. For us Canadians tho' it's a no-go. The
following message is posted there...

Please Note: Only registered members from the U.S. are able to post messages
here (this may be indicated by the title of the forum. All exchanges not
indicated otherwise are restricted to those living in the U.S.)

I am looking forward to BV having this swap area up so we porgs north of the
border can get swapping. Thanks again BV for your hard work.



"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
. com...
Didn't see the op. Go look here.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/exponds/?20387
It surprises me that no one here ever mentions garden web. I really like
it.

Ann

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be
a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss
vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you, as a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad either
as
a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have
all
of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to search
using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address
(considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

Ann -
Neat site if you live in the US. For us Canadians tho' it's a no-go. The
following message is posted there...

Please Note: Only registered members from the U.S. are able to post messages
here (this may be indicated by the title of the forum. All exchanges not
indicated otherwise are restricted to those living in the U.S.)

I am looking forward to BV having this swap area up so we porgs north of the
border can get swapping. Thanks again BV for your hard work.



"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
. com...
Didn't see the op. Go look here.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/exponds/?20387
It surprises me that no one here ever mentions garden web. I really like
it.

Ann

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
A few weeks back somebody suggest an on-line plant swap system would be
a
great thing to have. I mulled the idea over and I have a design ready. I
plan to start coding it soon, and it will be added a free tool to
iheartmypond.com. I realize it is probably a bad idea to discuss
vaporware
on a newsgroup, but I wanted to get an idea for what features you, as a
friendly porg, would be interested in seeing.

I am basically envisioning, you login and are able to post an ad either
as
a
want or as a have. The ads will then be listed by category as we have
all
of
our content now (but on a seperate page). You'd also be able to search
using
keywords. Your ad would include a link to your email address
(considering
alternatives to this to help prevent spam) so you could contact the
poster.

Any thoughts?

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Ann -
Neat site if you live in the US. For us Canadians tho' it's a no-go. The
following message is posted there...

Please Note: Only registered members from the U.S. are able to post
messages
here (this may be indicated by the title of the forum. All exchanges not
indicated otherwise are restricted to those living in the U.S.)

I am looking forward to BV having this swap area up so we porgs north of
the
border can get swapping. Thanks again BV for your hard work.
snip

I hope to have it up soon.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Ann -
Neat site if you live in the US. For us Canadians tho' it's a no-go. The
following message is posted there...

Please Note: Only registered members from the U.S. are able to post
messages
here (this may be indicated by the title of the forum. All exchanges not
indicated otherwise are restricted to those living in the U.S.)

I am looking forward to BV having this swap area up so we porgs north of
the
border can get swapping. Thanks again BV for your hard work.
snip

I hope to have it up soon.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

Plant Swap Solution
 

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message ...
"Sue Walsh" wrote in message
om...
joe wrote in message
...

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5
days, or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

Could you possibly clear ALL ads say at the end of each month or on
the 1st & 15th of each month? Then we would be starting new once or
twice a month. It would also mean a person looking for something
would not have too much to look through. Just a thought.

Each ad will have an auto-expire date which will default to 30 days. The
poster can extend this, if (s)he chooses.

The whole idea sounds great to me, I'm always looking for new plants
and having other stuff would just add to the appeal.

Sue W

Would this be for all types of 'other' plants or just 'water garden'
plants? A compromise could be if 1/2 of each swap had to be a 'water
garden' plant. For example: If I need a water lily but have no other
'water garden' plant to trade I could then offer an 'other' such as a
passionvine. But if I was looking for passionvine, I would have to
offer a 'water garden' plant in trade. In that way 1/2 of the trade
was pond related. Just a thought, we are a pond group. One the flip
side, of my brain, is the thought that we also need 'other' plants to
put around the outside of our ponds, so do we really want to limit it
to 'water garden' plants? Oh well, this is how my life goes, just
can't make up my mind!!

I intend to make this for ANY type of item or service, not just pond plants.
So if you want to post pumps, filters, etc. I plant to categorize the posts
as "wants" and "haves", and then categorize like we do on
www.iheartmypond.com. So you could peruse by category, or just use the
search engine.
snip

BV.

Plant Swap Solution
 

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message ...
"Sue Walsh" wrote in message
om...
joe wrote in message
...

Would you have ads automatically go away after a given period say 5
days, or
would the poster be responsible for that. I guess the issue is you don't
want some advertising something they no longer have.

Could you possibly clear ALL ads say at the end of each month or on
the 1st & 15th of each month? Then we would be starting new once or
twice a month. It would also mean a person looking for something
would not have too much to look through. Just a thought.

Each ad will have an auto-expire date which will default to 30 days. The
poster can extend this, if (s)he chooses.

The whole idea sounds great to me, I'm always looking for new plants
and having other stuff would just add to the appeal.

Sue W

Would this be for all types of 'other' plants or just 'water garden'
plants? A compromise could be if 1/2 of each swap had to be a 'water
garden' plant. For example: If I need a water lily but have no other
'water garden' plant to trade I could then offer an 'other' such as a
passionvine. But if I was looking for passionvine, I would have to
offer a 'water garden' plant in trade. In that way 1/2 of the trade
was pond related. Just a thought, we are a pond group. One the flip
side, of my brain, is the thought that we also need 'other' plants to
put around the outside of our ponds, so do we really want to limit it
to 'water garden' plants? Oh well, this is how my life goes, just
can't make up my mind!!

I intend to make this for ANY type of item or service, not just pond plants.
So if you want to post pumps, filters, etc. I plant to categorize the posts
as "wants" and "haves", and then categorize like we do on
www.iheartmypond.com. So you could peruse by category, or just use the
search engine.
snip

BV.

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi Benign Vanilla,

Good tip on locations,

I will suggest the location break to two fields, one is latitude and
the other is longitude, this data should get while the member
registration stage.

It's easier to define a range on this than the location's name.

I'm a software developer.

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi Benign Vanilla,

Good tip on locations,

I will suggest the location break to two fields, one is latitude and
the other is longitude, this data should get while the member
registration stage.

It's easier to define a range on this than the location's name.

I'm a software developer.

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi Benign Vanilla,

Each ad will have an auto-expire date which will default to 30 days.
The
poster can extend this, if (s)he chooses.

I will suggest a webpage to let members key in what they have(keep it
in a XML file), and another webpage that provide dropdown list(content
from previous XML file) for that member to chose what they will offer,
and a field to key in the amount available.

What members have should be keep permanent(static data), the amout
they offer will have a retention period(dynamic data).

This will help if someone look for a hard to find item, they can ask a
favor personally to the owner(when owner does not provide the offer or
offer are expired due to retention period).

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi Benign Vanilla,

Each ad will have an auto-expire date which will default to 30 days.
The
poster can extend this, if (s)he chooses.

I will suggest a webpage to let members key in what they have(keep it
in a XML file), and another webpage that provide dropdown list(content
from previous XML file) for that member to chose what they will offer,
and a field to key in the amount available.

What members have should be keep permanent(static data), the amout
they offer will have a retention period(dynamic data).

This will help if someone look for a hard to find item, they can ask a
favor personally to the owner(when owner does not provide the offer or
offer are expired due to retention period).

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi BV -

Lat and Long is okay but not a good indication of Zone. Perhaps a field for
Zone and a field for Country. If I'm swapping for a hardy lily I know what
zone I'm in and whether or not it will grow here. What I need to know is
whether or not the trader can legally ship to me.
JMHO
Heather

"nswong" wrote in message
...
Hi Benign Vanilla,

Good tip on locations,

I will suggest the location break to two fields, one is latitude and
the other is longitude, this data should get while the member
registration stage.

It's easier to define a range on this than the location's name.

I'm a software developer.

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi BV -

Lat and Long is okay but not a good indication of Zone. Perhaps a field for
Zone and a field for Country. If I'm swapping for a hardy lily I know what
zone I'm in and whether or not it will grow here. What I need to know is
whether or not the trader can legally ship to me.
JMHO
Heather

"nswong" wrote in message
...
Hi Benign Vanilla,

Good tip on locations,

I will suggest the location break to two fields, one is latitude and
the other is longitude, this data should get while the member
registration stage.

It's easier to define a range on this than the location's name.

I'm a software developer.

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi Heather,

Lat and Long is okay but not a good indication of Zone. Perhaps a
field for
Zone and a field for Country.

From the latitude and longitude, we can pinpoint the Zone and Country
either from atlas or by program.

Zone and Country just like the calculated cell in Lotus/Excel, they
can derive from latitude and longitude, so the program can write in a
way that also show the Zone and Country by mapping the latitude and
longitude.

In software design, a field content that can get from the result of
other field, should not get input from user. Human input are tend to
be error.

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi Heather,

Lat and Long is okay but not a good indication of Zone. Perhaps a
field for
Zone and a field for Country.

From the latitude and longitude, we can pinpoint the Zone and Country
either from atlas or by program.

Zone and Country just like the calculated cell in Lotus/Excel, they
can derive from latitude and longitude, so the program can write in a
way that also show the Zone and Country by mapping the latitude and
longitude.

In software design, a field content that can get from the result of
other field, should not get input from user. Human input are tend to
be error.

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

As a retired analyst I understand what should and should not be input to
data tables.

However to debate the issue, I would expect that more gardeners know their
plant growing zone far better than they know their lat and long. In
addition some people live in micro climates and even tho' they live in Zone
6 may be able to grow Zone 7 plants if they have a very sheltered area or
maybe only Zone 5 plants if their gardening area is very exposed to the
elements.

In software design, a field content that can get from the result of
other field, should not get input from user. Human input are tend to
be error.

I would foresee many more human input errors in lat and long entries than in
Zone entries. In addition Lat and Long requires two fields whereas Zone
only requires one field of one character. The field does not need to be
numeric as no math calculations would be used thereby saving space. And
taking up CPU time to compute a result that can be stored in a character
field in my opinion does not make good programming sense, not to mention the
time and effort to write the program to calculate where a person lives.

At any rate since BV is doing the work it is up to him to decide the merits
and methods he chooses.

Cheers,

Heather


'
"nswong" wrote in message
...
Hi Heather,

Lat and Long is okay but not a good indication of Zone. Perhaps a
field for
Zone and a field for Country.

From the latitude and longitude, we can pinpoint the Zone and Country
either from atlas or by program.

Zone and Country just like the calculated cell in Lotus/Excel, they
can derive from latitude and longitude, so the program can write in a
way that also show the Zone and Country by mapping the latitude and
longitude.

In software design, a field content that can get from the result of
other field, should not get input from user. Human input are tend to
be error.

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

As a retired analyst I understand what should and should not be input to
data tables.

However to debate the issue, I would expect that more gardeners know their
plant growing zone far better than they know their lat and long. In
addition some people live in micro climates and even tho' they live in Zone
6 may be able to grow Zone 7 plants if they have a very sheltered area or
maybe only Zone 5 plants if their gardening area is very exposed to the
elements.

In software design, a field content that can get from the result of
other field, should not get input from user. Human input are tend to
be error.

I would foresee many more human input errors in lat and long entries than in
Zone entries. In addition Lat and Long requires two fields whereas Zone
only requires one field of one character. The field does not need to be
numeric as no math calculations would be used thereby saving space. And
taking up CPU time to compute a result that can be stored in a character
field in my opinion does not make good programming sense, not to mention the
time and effort to write the program to calculate where a person lives.

At any rate since BV is doing the work it is up to him to decide the merits
and methods he chooses.

Cheers,

Heather


'
"nswong" wrote in message
...
Hi Heather,

Lat and Long is okay but not a good indication of Zone. Perhaps a
field for
Zone and a field for Country.

From the latitude and longitude, we can pinpoint the Zone and Country
either from atlas or by program.

Zone and Country just like the calculated cell in Lotus/Excel, they
can derive from latitude and longitude, so the program can write in a
way that also show the Zone and Country by mapping the latitude and
longitude.

In software design, a field content that can get from the result of
other field, should not get input from user. Human input are tend to
be error.

Regards,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi Heather,

As a retired analyst I understand what should and should not be
input to
data tables.

Sorry if the way I express do offend you. :-)

However to debate the issue, I would expect that more gardeners know
their
plant growing zone far better than they know their lat and long.

I'm not sure the zone system are use by how many country, but in the
place I live, none of the people I know do know about zone. This as
well apply to the lat & long. g So I do think that if I'm the one
doing it, I may provide and input screen to let people chose where
they come from by country, town..., but save it as lat & long. The
lat & long will be useful on a lot of thing, e.g. for GPS, a online
atlas showing where are you and the route to your destination...

In
addition some people live in micro climates and even tho' they live
in Zone
6 may be able to grow Zone 7 plants if they have a very sheltered
area or
maybe only Zone 5 plants if their gardening area is very exposed to
the
elements.

I don't know about Zone, anywhere can find the good definition of it?

I would foresee many more human input errors in lat and long entries
than in
Zone entries.

I do know about this, in my implementation, I'm thinking of get input
as location name from dropdown list.

In addition Lat and Long requires two fields whereas Zone
only requires one field of one character.

In my design, the lat & long are use to identify location, and from
the location lookup other info from some tables. One of it are local
climate.

The field does not need to be
numeric as no math calculations would be used thereby saving space.

In my design, lat & long are a pair of keys, but it can store as
numeric to save space. Think about it, to represent 58 in character,
we need at least two bytes, in numeric, it can store in one byte. But
storage are not the point of it, the most important to consider are
which way are more simple and less job.

And
taking up CPU time to compute a result that can be stored in a
character
field in my opinion does not make good programming sense,

This can make it a one time job, lookup in the table and save it to a
field at the time of user registration.

not to mention the
time and effort to write the program to calculate where a person
lives.

I think in another ways round, as long as this is the most cost
effective way to provide output, the input(resource) are justifiable.

This is one to many situation. A software are develop by a few
persons, but use by thousand people, to save a minute of user are more
important than an hour of developer.

At any rate since BV is doing the work it is up to him to decide the
merits
and methods he chooses.

Agree, BV is the decision maker in this case. But I do think he will
like to know all the possible options he can chose from. I myself
believe the only choice are the worst choice, if I do not have more
than one choice, I will not even consider to do it.

Glad to see and talk to another software developer here. :-) You
know, a lot of software developer are quite lonely. ;-)

BTW: Agriculture are my hobby, but thinking of switch to it to earn my
living.

Cheers,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi Wong:

You must not live in North America. We have a zone system here to guide
gardeners as to what plants will grow in their area. When purchasing plants
at the nursery, there is usually a tag that states information about the
plant.

Example:
Myriophyllum Aquaticum - Parrot's Feather
Sun to part shade
Zones 6 to 11
6 inches tall
Moist soil to floating

Here are some links you can check out for more information on Zones.
Gardners in North America, England and Australia use a zone system. I don't
know about other countries. Very useful.

http://www.gardenersnet.com/atoz/hardy.htm Scroll down and click on Plant
Hardiness Zone Map
http://www.icangarden.com/zone.cfm

Hope this helps your understanding.

Heather



"nswong" wrote in message
...
Hi Heather,

As a retired analyst I understand what should and should not be
input to
data tables.

Sorry if the way I express do offend you. :-)

However to debate the issue, I would expect that more gardeners know
their
plant growing zone far better than they know their lat and long.

I'm not sure the zone system are use by how many country, but in the
place I live, none of the people I know do know about zone. This as
well apply to the lat & long. g So I do think that if I'm the one
doing it, I may provide and input screen to let people chose where
they come from by country, town..., but save it as lat & long. The
lat & long will be useful on a lot of thing, e.g. for GPS, a online
atlas showing where are you and the route to your destination...

In
addition some people live in micro climates and even tho' they live
in Zone
6 may be able to grow Zone 7 plants if they have a very sheltered
area or
maybe only Zone 5 plants if their gardening area is very exposed to
the
elements.

I don't know about Zone, anywhere can find the good definition of it?

I would foresee many more human input errors in lat and long entries
than in
Zone entries.

I do know about this, in my implementation, I'm thinking of get input
as location name from dropdown list.

In addition Lat and Long requires two fields whereas Zone
only requires one field of one character.

In my design, the lat & long are use to identify location, and from
the location lookup other info from some tables. One of it are local
climate.

The field does not need to be
numeric as no math calculations would be used thereby saving space.

In my design, lat & long are a pair of keys, but it can store as
numeric to save space. Think about it, to represent 58 in character,
we need at least two bytes, in numeric, it can store in one byte. But
storage are not the point of it, the most important to consider are
which way are more simple and less job.

And
taking up CPU time to compute a result that can be stored in a
character
field in my opinion does not make good programming sense,

This can make it a one time job, lookup in the table and save it to a
field at the time of user registration.

not to mention the
time and effort to write the program to calculate where a person
lives.

I think in another ways round, as long as this is the most cost
effective way to provide output, the input(resource) are justifiable.

This is one to many situation. A software are develop by a few
persons, but use by thousand people, to save a minute of user are more
important than an hour of developer.

At any rate since BV is doing the work it is up to him to decide the
merits
and methods he chooses.

Agree, BV is the decision maker in this case. But I do think he will
like to know all the possible options he can chose from. I myself
believe the only choice are the worst choice, if I do not have more
than one choice, I will not even consider to do it.

Glad to see and talk to another software developer here. :-) You
know, a lot of software developer are quite lonely. ;-)

BTW: Agriculture are my hobby, but thinking of switch to it to earn my
living.

Cheers,
Wong

Plant Swap Solution
 

Hi Heather,

You must not live in North America.

I'm from Malaysia.

When purchasing plants
at the nursery, there is usually a tag that states information about
the
plant.

Here we just get the plant, no tag, sometime not even know what plant
is't. g

Here are some links you can check out for more information on Zones.
Gardners in North America, England and Australia use a zone system.
I don't
know about other countries. Very useful.

http://www.gardenersnet.com/atoz/hardy.htm Scroll down and click
on Plant
Hardiness Zone Map
http://www.icangarden.com/zone.cfm

Hope this helps your understanding.

Thanks for your links.

Thanks,
Wong