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Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
I could not get potassium permaganate.. Something else was mention was to
use iodine on the area.. I could get neithier tonight at the local pharmacy.. This is what I got, and I am thinking it might not hurt..Povidone Iodine.. Which is the typical surgical prep stuff.. If someone can give me an answer back ASAP I would appreciate it.. This Koi have cost me a lot of money and I need to get them back to health ... TIA... Tim |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
T wrote:
I could not get potassium permaganate.. Something else was mention was to use iodine on the area.. I could get neithier tonight at the local pharmacy.. This is what I got, and I am thinking it might not hurt..Povidone Iodine.. Which is the typical surgical prep stuff.. If someone can give me an answer back ASAP I would appreciate it.. This Koi have cost me a lot of money and I need to get them back to health ... TIA... Tim try a lg. plumbing supply wholesaler its used to clean out pipes -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-831-5739 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
"KenCo" wrote in message ... T wrote: I could not get potassium permaganate.. Something else was mention was to use iodine on the area.. I could get neithier tonight at the local pharmacy.. This is what I got, and I am thinking it might not hurt..Povidone Iodine.. Which is the typical surgical prep stuff.. If someone can give me an answer back ASAP I would appreciate it.. This Koi have cost me a lot of money and I need to get them back to health ... TIA... Tim try a lg. plumbing supply wholesaler its used to clean out pipes -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-831-5739 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) Now there's an idea... The plumbing supply... Anyone have a clue to what kind of rate and with what I can mix the stuff with so I can apply it correctly? I used the prov Iodine yesterday to clean the ulcers up a bit.. To my surprise they are not dead yet, although the ulcer's were bad enough to expose bone for the fin's... This happened so quickly, and I do hope I have caught it in time. The Koi are still fairly active, and they are young ones, hopefully they find their will to get over the ulcers..I will retreat the area again with the provodine iodine today and for the 5 following days to see if I can save them.. Lordy knows they cost me $10 a piece and my cars motor on the way home from the farm.. Tim |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
Hey Ingrid, did you catch my reply in the other group about these fish...??
I think I am going to try the route I have taken.. I do hope the finnage will grow back even though some bone material is exposed.. The redness has resided ( there is some red inflmation still present ) since I used the Provodone Iodine last night.. This has made me feel a lot better for the fish' condition.. I presume the Isopropel Alc is to neutrealize the PP right.. Not the Provodine Iodine ( in this case it is 10% Iodine ).. Tim wrote in message ... http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disea....htm#POTASSIUM and have plain old drugstore peroxide on hand to neutralize when treatment is done. get some romet B antibiotic to help the fish. http://dandyorandas.com/ Ken Fischer Dandy Oranda's 1460 Eastwood Avenue Columbus, Oh 43203 (614) 252-0690 Ingrid Now there's an idea... The plumbing supply... Anyone have a clue to what kind of rate and with what I can mix the stuff with so I can apply it correctly? I used the prov Iodine yesterday to clean the ulcers up a bit.. To my surprise they are not dead yet, although the ulcer's were bad enough to expose bone for the fin's... This happened so quickly, and I do hope I have caught it in time. The Koi are still fairly active, and they are young ones, hopefully they find their will to get over the ulcers..I will retreat the area again with the provodine iodine today and for the 5 following days to see if I can save them.. Lordy knows they cost me $10 a piece and my cars motor on the way home from the farm.. Tim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
Whether it is iodine or PP, one treatment is usually all that is needed. It
burns the wound, in effect cauterizing it. Follow up treatment should be done with a topical first aid treatment, like A&D ointment. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "T" wrote in message nk.net... "KenCo" wrote in message ... T wrote: I could not get potassium permaganate.. Something else was mention was to use iodine on the area.. I could get neithier tonight at the local pharmacy.. This is what I got, and I am thinking it might not hurt..Povidone Iodine.. Which is the typical surgical prep stuff.. If someone can give me an answer back ASAP I would appreciate it.. This Koi have cost me a lot of money and I need to get them back to health ... TIA... Tim try a lg. plumbing supply wholesaler its used to clean out pipes -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-831-5739 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) Now there's an idea... The plumbing supply... Anyone have a clue to what kind of rate and with what I can mix the stuff with so I can apply it correctly? I used the prov Iodine yesterday to clean the ulcers up a bit.. To my surprise they are not dead yet, although the ulcer's were bad enough to expose bone for the fin's... This happened so quickly, and I do hope I have caught it in time. The Koi are still fairly active, and they are young ones, hopefully they find their will to get over the ulcers..I will retreat the area again with the provodine iodine today and for the 5 following days to see if I can save them.. Lordy knows they cost me $10 a piece and my cars motor on the way home from the farm.. Tim |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
Opps. I went and gave the wounds another wipe with the Iodine... They
should be ok I would think.. Next time I will use A&D or perhaps should I use Polysporin?? Tim "RichToyBox" wrote in message news:vLcrc.14813$zw.3887@attbi_s01... Whether it is iodine or PP, one treatment is usually all that is needed. It burns the wound, in effect cauterizing it. Follow up treatment should be done with a topical first aid treatment, like A&D ointment. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "T" wrote in message nk.net... "KenCo" wrote in message ... T wrote: I could not get potassium permaganate.. Something else was mention was to use iodine on the area.. I could get neithier tonight at the local pharmacy.. This is what I got, and I am thinking it might not hurt..Povidone Iodine.. Which is the typical surgical prep stuff.. If someone can give me an answer back ASAP I would appreciate it.. This Koi have cost me a lot of money and I need to get them back to health ... TIA... Tim try a lg. plumbing supply wholesaler its used to clean out pipes -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-831-5739 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) Now there's an idea... The plumbing supply... Anyone have a clue to what kind of rate and with what I can mix the stuff with so I can apply it correctly? I used the prov Iodine yesterday to clean the ulcers up a bit.. To my surprise they are not dead yet, although the ulcer's were bad enough to expose bone for the fin's... This happened so quickly, and I do hope I have caught it in time. The Koi are still fairly active, and they are young ones, hopefully they find their will to get over the ulcers..I will retreat the area again with the provodine iodine today and for the 5 following days to see if I can save them.. Lordy knows they cost me $10 a piece and my cars motor on the way home from the farm.. Tim |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
yes!! one treatment, altho I dont recommend PP treatment at all, especially not that
"paste" some recommend, this could cauterize right down to the bone. yeck. but use creme, not oint. Ingrid "RichToyBox" wrote: Whether it is iodine or PP, one treatment is usually all that is needed. It burns the wound, in effect cauterizing it. Follow up treatment should be done with a topical first aid treatment, like A&D ointment. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
NO ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL... it is hydrogen peroxide. brown bottle. Ingrid
"T" wrote: Hey Ingrid, did you catch my reply in the other group about these fish...?? I think I am going to try the route I have taken.. I do hope the finnage will grow back even though some bone material is exposed.. The redness has resided ( there is some red inflmation still present ) since I used the Provodone Iodine last night.. This has made me feel a lot better for the fish' condition.. I presume the Isopropel Alc is to neutrealize the PP right.. Not the Provodine Iodine ( in this case it is 10% Iodine ).. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
whatever triple antibiotic CREME you have on hand. rub it in. Ingrid
"T" wrote: Opps. I went and gave the wounds another wipe with the Iodine... They should be ok I would think.. Next time I will use A&D or perhaps should I use Polysporin?? Tim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
Cream Okies.. I have the A and D.. I also have the other one , both are in
the form of a vasaline type.. Tim.. wrote in message ... yes!! one treatment, altho I dont recommend PP treatment at all, especially not that "paste" some recommend, this could cauterize right down to the bone. yeck. but use creme, not oint. Ingrid "RichToyBox" wrote: Whether it is iodine or PP, one treatment is usually all that is needed. It burns the wound, in effect cauterizing it. Follow up treatment should be done with a topical first aid treatment, like A&D ointment. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
Hydorgen peroxide, right O , no Isopropel Aic..
Tim.. wrote in message ... NO ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL... it is hydrogen peroxide. brown bottle. Ingrid "T" wrote: Hey Ingrid, did you catch my reply in the other group about these fish...?? I think I am going to try the route I have taken.. I do hope the finnage will grow back even though some bone material is exposed.. The redness has resided ( there is some red inflmation still present ) since I used the Provodone Iodine last night.. This has made me feel a lot better for the fish' condition.. I presume the Isopropel Alc is to neutrealize the PP right.. Not the Provodine Iodine ( in this case it is 10% Iodine ).. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
vaseline base is ointment and doesnt release the meds fast enough. it is counter
intuitive, but creme works better on fish. Ingrid "T" wrote: Cream Okies.. I have the A and D.. I also have the other one , both are in the form of a vasaline type.. Tim.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
If your treatment doesn't work, I highly recommend the treatment of
Tricide-Neo. http://www.pondrx.com/shop/listing.php?parentId=30 Worked for me. Best way is have fish in easily accessible salted Q-tank, koi sock-net them out and into bag filled with meds, wait the time allowed 5 minutes, net them out and back into Q-tank. ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
Neither Fish made it, after the areas cleared a bit, they developed dropsy..
They died within a few hours of me noticing their secondary illness.. Unfortunantely them dieing was only the icing on cake for the whole time I had them.. ( a short time mind you ).. On my way back in from the fish farm, I blew the engine in my car.. So by them time I am finished totalling my bills of getting these guys, I am now out just over $1500.. That is the part that stings the most.. Although I am open for donations for some help to get my cars motor replaced.. If you think you can help me, you can get a hold of me here.. Tim... "~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message s.com... If your treatment doesn't work, I highly recommend the treatment of Tricide-Neo. http://www.pondrx.com/shop/listing.php?parentId=30 Worked for me. Best way is have fish in easily accessible salted Q-tank, koi sock-net them out and into bag filled with meds, wait the time allowed 5 minutes, net them out and back into Q-tank. ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
Urgent.. Koi Ulcers... I have no Potasium Prag...
Well, we've done plants for postage...maybe a V8.
Joe On 5/25/04 4:47 PM, "T" wrote: That is the part that stings the most.. Although I am open for donations for some help to get my cars motor replaced.. If you think you can help me, you can get a hold of me here.. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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