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Wal Mart steps over a dollar to pick up a dime
Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds
setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are trashed before selling. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
"Roy" wrote in message ... Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... That would have prompted a letter from me to the head office, without a doubt. BV. |
"Roy" wrote in message ... Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very reasonably) late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long time employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather than mark them down. They do that to stop people from WAITING until the mark downs. Can you believe the GREED of Wal-Marts owners/stockholders?She told me this when I asked her about a huge pile of shrubs, trees and large potted plants behind the building. Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are trashed before selling. ## You got that right. :-( -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband, you will usually find he's already married." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Roy wrote .She promptly
reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... bloody ah-mazing! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ kathy :-) algae primer http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html |
"Jabba" wrote in message
... Somebody reported: ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very reasonably) late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long time employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather than mark them down. What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock holders greed? Friend ran a chicken place where the employees were not allowed to take home leftover chicken at closing, it went into the dumpster. Why? Simple, when they allowed it there was ALWAYS a full fryer at the end of the day. Maybe Wal-mart is protecting the stockholders from the associates? -- Crashj |
## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very reasonably)
late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long time employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather than mark them down. They do that to stop people from WAITING until the mark downs. Can you believe the GREED of Wal-Marts owners/stockholders?She told me this when I asked her about a huge pile of shrubs, trees and large potted plants behind the building. What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock holders greed? |
"Crashj" wrote in message hlink.net... "Jabba" wrote in message ... Somebody reported: ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very reasonably) late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long time employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather than mark them down. What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock holders greed? Friend ran a chicken place where the employees were not allowed to take home leftover chicken at closing, it went into the dumpster. Why? Simple, when they allowed it there was ALWAYS a full fryer at the end of the day. Maybe Wal-mart is protecting the stockholders from the associates? Or all large multi-nationals are evil organisations that would burn there employees if given half a chance :-) -- Crashj |
"Jabba" wrote in message ... ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very reasonably) late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long time employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather than mark them down. They do that to stop people from WAITING until the mark downs. Can you believe the GREED of Wal-Marts owners/stockholders?She told me this when I asked her about a huge pile of shrubs, trees and large potted plants behind the building. What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock holders greed? =========================== There is no GREED when you get or look for a bargain. A bargain benefits BOTH sides, not just one side. The items are sold cheaply and the store doesn't take a loss, or worse yet, dishonestly claim a loss from their insurance Co. The person gets a good deal on the item and saves money that they're usually end up spending in the same store on something else. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband, you will usually find he's already married." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
"Crashj" wrote in message hlink.net... "Jabba" wrote in message ... Somebody reported: ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very reasonably) late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long time employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather than mark them down. What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock holders greed? Friend ran a chicken place where the employees were not allowed to take home leftover chicken at closing, it went into the dumpster. Why? Simple, when they allowed it there was ALWAYS a full fryer at the end of the day. Maybe Wal-mart is protecting the stockholders from the associates? -- Crashj =================================== That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees. As for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones who order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband, you will usually find he's already married." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
"Ka30P" wrote in message ... Roy wrote .She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... bloody ah-mazing! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed ponds rather than let someone enjoy them. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband, you will usually find he's already married." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
I just think it is an amazing tale. I'm not going to assign any motive to it. Having DH in a business which is attacked on all sorts of spurious fronts that are nonsense, but believed, I'm think there is more information we would need to know. Maybe we can send Roy back to talk to the store manager...? In his spare time, of course ;-) kathy :-) algae primer http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html |
Wouldn't a (somewhat large) tube of silicone fix said hack job??
Probably wouldn't cost more than $6-10 for enough aquarium sealant.... --Bryan On 8/17/2004 9:05 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it typed: Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are trashed before selling. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. -- ************************************************** ********** * Can't see the Forest | Bryan B. * * Through the Trees? | "Ho, Ho, Ho!" Santa * * Take it out! | accused as he went * * (Damn Viruses!) | through his list. * ************************************************** ********** |
There is no GREED when you get or look for a bargain. A bargain benefits BOTH sides, not just one side. The items are sold cheaply and the store doesn't take a loss, or worse yet, dishonestly claim a loss from their insurance Co. The person gets a good deal on the item and saves money that they're usually end up spending in the same store on something else. What would you describe it as then? 'they're usually end up spending in the same store on something else' any proof of this - LOL |
"Jabba" wrote:
Or all large multi-nationals are evil organisations that would burn there employees if given half a chance :-) And there are evil employees who steal from their employer and would steal more from their employers if give half a chance. AT&T and many other companies will not through used equipment in the trash because employees would through out things they wanted and pick them out of the dumpster after work. Instead they have a salvage procedure and have an agreement with a salvage agent who either pays or is paid to haul the equipment away. This cuts down considerably on waste. When employees benefit from waste, there is a lot more of it. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
"~ Windsong ~" wrote:
That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees. As for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones who order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores. But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the stock room or storage trailer, etc. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
"Stephen M. Henning" wrote in message ... "Jabba" wrote: Or all large multi-nationals are evil organisations that would burn there employees if given half a chance :-) And there are evil employees who steal from their employer and would steal more from their employers if give half a chance. AT&T and many other companies will not through used equipment in the trash because employees would through out things they wanted and pick them out of the dumpster after work. Instead they have a salvage procedure and have an agreement with a salvage agent who either pays or is paid to haul the equipment away. This cuts down considerably on waste. When employees benefit from waste, there is a lot more of it. I think you missed the :-) in my post or didn't read my other post. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
I used to work at Barnes & Noble. During peak retail times publishers would
send us extra copies of books thought to be in higher demand in the "mass market" format - that's the smaller size paperbacks. After said peak season ended and we had leftovers, the cover would be torn off and sent back to the publisher who would give the company credit for what they didn't sell. The staff were allowed to take 1 or 2 titles w/o their front covers home, but the rest were torn up into small sections of book and thrown in the dumpster! Surely those could have been donated to a charity organization or something. I always hated that. Although, I'm sure a return of a book w/o a cover would not have been allowed, I wouldn't have been surprised to see someone go through our dumpster and try it. We had a guy one time who collected receipts people had thrown away from the trash can outside the front of the store. He went down the street to Kinko's who happened to have VERY similar paper as our receipt paper. He cut the receipts up and pasted them together into one big receipt and copied it. The Kinko's manager thought that was mighty suspicious and called us at the store to let us know what to watch for. Sure enough, this guy comes into our store, picks the books we had in stock that were on the receipt, off of our shelves and went up to the cashier to ask for a refund. He ran away when we told him we knew what he had done. I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they were just going in the dumpster. Lydia "Roy" wrote in message ... Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are trashed before selling. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
Lydia wrote
After said peak season ended and we had leftovers, the cover would be torn off and sent back to the publisher who would give the company credit for what they didn't sell. The staff were allowed to take 1 or 2 titles w/o their front covers home, but the rest were torn up into small sections of book and thrown in the dumpster! Surely those could have been donated to a charity organization or something. Okay, I actually know something about this. If all those books were donated, intact or with covers torn off, to charities or libraries then it is also the author whose work is donated away and the author would not get paid for it. Like a company obligating you, with no input, to work 50 hours for a charity and not paying you for your work. Speaking as a starving writer ;-) (just as way of illustration, certainly not in fact!) kathy :-) algae primer http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html |
"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
... That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed ponds rather than let someone enjoy them. C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure Wal-Mart is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance company to be defrauded in this case. As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what taxes are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense. If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers? The customer, that's who. That would be you and me. -- Crashj |
"Lydia" wrote in message ... I used to work at Barnes & Noble. trim tale of evil rip off artist Sure enough, this guy comes into our store, picks the books we had in stock that were on the receipt, off of our shelves and went up to the cashier to ask for a refund. He ran away when we told him we knew what he had done. By now you understand the cost of the book as an object is a minor part of the expected revenue to the owners of the intellectual property, so I hope that point is well made. As for the rip off artists, Wal-mart is the target of the largest organized group of thieves in the world, and it is not the mafia. The mafia stays in one place, these are the travelers. -- Crashj |
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In article , HA HA Budys
Here wrote: From: "Crashj" "~ Windsong ~" wrote in message ... That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed ponds rather than let someone enjoy them. C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure Wal-Mart is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance company to be defrauded in this case. As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what taxes are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense. If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers? The customer, that's who. That would be you and me. -- Crashj Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home Depot, Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer. Not only that, if you make a return they often charge the manufacturer/distributor full retail for that return. jay Tue Aug 17, 2004 That's why the stores don't care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer (especially seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than sending it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it. |
Wal Mart was built on frugal down to earth capitalist ideas. This
brought money which brought capitalist pigs, which threw the ponds in the trash and Wal Mart too someday. Some hungry retail wolf will eat them like they ate others, because they are sloppy. On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:05:08 GMT, (Roy) wrote: Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are trashed before selling. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
There's an old saying that I try to live by.
"Waste Not, want not." Chances are it's not the greed of a good deal, but the financial economics of it. "Jabba" wrote in message ... | ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very reasonably) | late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long time | employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather than | mark them down. They do that to stop people from WAITING until the mark | downs. Can you believe the GREED of Wal-Marts owners/stockholders?She | told | me this when I asked her about a huge pile of shrubs, trees and large | potted | plants behind the building. | | | What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock | holders greed? | | |
I worked at Staples for a cuple of years.
They had a policy of literally trashing (hammering it to smithereens) anything that was returned (after they got their credit from the manufacturer) if it was not in a package. The reason for this was so that people would not fish thngs back out of the dumpster and then try to return it without a receipt. It seemed silly, but still made sense. Kate "~ Windsong ~" wrote in message ... | | "Crashj" wrote in message | hlink.net... | "Jabba" wrote in message | ... | Somebody reported: | ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very | reasonably) | late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long | time | employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather | than | mark them down. | | What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock | holders greed? | | Friend ran a chicken place where the employees were not allowed to take | home | leftover chicken at closing, it went into the dumpster. Why? Simple, when | they allowed it there was ALWAYS a full fryer at the end of the day. Maybe | Wal-mart is protecting the stockholders from the associates? | -- | Crashj | =================================== | That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees. As | for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones who | order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores. | -- | Carol.... the frugal ponder... | "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband, | you will usually find he's already married." | ~~~~~~{@ | "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." | http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | | |
"Stephen M. Henning" wrote | | But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't | sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one | sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the | stock room or storage trailer, etc. | Have YOU ever worked retail? Tell you what. Get a corporate DM on your boss's ass telling him that he has to cut employees hours because of corporate budget cuts and maintain customer service. This means an entire store with only 5 people on staff, one of them a manager, one of them an operations officer three of them minimum wage sales associates. The three sales associates have to unload 6-11 pallets of stock every other day, and put it up during the course if an 8 hour, or likely less, shift because part timers do not get benefits. Then give those 3 sales associates time to answer the phones, help customers, tidy the shelves and displays, check to be sure there are no empty spaces on the shelves and refill them and run the cash registers. Then, there are the customers who let their children pull the price labels off of the store shelves as entertainment while the parents are oblivious to their child's actions. Prices that change daily and a list of several dozen items that must be relabeled.. by those same three employees. Try it sometime. Retail is allot harder than it looks from the customer's side of the counter. If you want to blame someone, blame the sorporation, not the employees. The company is to blame 80% of the time. Kate | -- | Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to | http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
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the stuff gets used instead of winding up in the landfill :-) Kate "~ Windsong ~" wrote in message ... | | "Jabba" wrote in message | ... | ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very | reasonably) | late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long | time | employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather | than | mark them down. They do that to stop people from WAITING until the mark | downs. Can you believe the GREED of Wal-Marts owners/stockholders?She | told | me this when I asked her about a huge pile of shrubs, trees and large | potted | plants behind the building. | | | What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock | holders greed? | =========================== | There is no GREED when you get or look for a bargain. A bargain benefits | BOTH sides, not just one side. The items are sold cheaply and the store | doesn't take a loss, or worse yet, dishonestly claim a loss from their | insurance Co. The person gets a good deal on the item and saves money that | they're usually end up spending in the same store on something else. | -- | Carol.... the frugal ponder... | "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband, | you will usually find he's already married." | ~~~~~~{@ | "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." | http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | |
That is just plain stupid! :-(((( Why would they not sell them to you
at cost???? Bummer Roy wrote: Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are trashed before selling. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
"Stephen M. Henning" wrote in message ... "~ Windsong ~" wrote: That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees. As for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones who order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores. But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the stock room or storage trailer, etc. ========================= Again you have a *management* problem then. Where is the store MANAGER and ass't manager? It's their job to know what's in the store room and trailers. The Wal-Marts and K-Marts here are set up in such a way that hiding merchandise is almost impossible. As for discouraging sales.... I've seldom had anyone in any of these stores do that. And the employees come and go so fast it can't possibly make a difference in the amount sold or not sold. The Lowe's here marks things down to unreal prices to move them in late summer. I paid 25¢ for beautiful hanging baskets of impatience and some other type of flower. The hanging baskets alone are worth over $1.49. The mini rose bushes were only 50¢ to a $1.00 each. I bough some large beautiful blooming angelwing begonias in fancy large pots for 50¢ each. There is nowhere the employees could be involved in all the stock that didn't sell over the summer. I'm not saying some employees aren't dishonest as I'm sure some are - but most left over merchandise is not the fault of the employees. Giving damaged or broken merchandise to employees is another matter. I can see them "damaging" something so they can get it for free or dirt cheap - but leftover ponds, shrubs, trees and plants??? -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?" ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
"HA HA Budys Here" wrote in message ... From: "Stephen M. Henning" "~ Windsong ~" wrote: That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees. As for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones who order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores. But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the stock room or storage trailer, etc. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman Walmart doesn't have a stockroom. Managers, if doing their job, make sure the merchandise is in the proper display in it's proper place. (Entire stores are plan-o-grammed) They're not on commission and most are eligable for either welfare, food stamps or both. Store security and cameras are there not so much to deter customer theft, but employee theft. When such radical measures are needed by the worlds largest and most profitable corporation against it's own employees one has to wonder why. ================================== Allow me to guess. They pay them PEANUTS! They give them no benefits and they work abominable hours plus most weekends. They're not appreciated and they know it. I can't think of a worse place to work than one of these discount stores. Maybe if they paid a living wage there wouldn't be so much theft. The turnover at our local Wal-Mart is constant. You seldom see the same face more than twice. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?" ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
"Jabba" wrote in message ... There is no GREED when you get or look for a bargain. A bargain benefits BOTH sides, not just one side. The items are sold cheaply and the store doesn't take a loss, or worse yet, dishonestly claim a loss from their insurance Co. The person gets a good deal on the item and saves money that they're usually end up spending in the same store on something else. What would you describe it as then? ================================== I would describe it as CAREFUL and WISE shopping. Since I retired some years ago I seldom buy anything unless it's on sale. Why should I not do this? The store is still making money on my purchases, or at least breaking even. Isn't this society wasteful enough as it is? 'they're usually end up spending in the same store on something else' any proof of this - LOL Proof of what? You must be a stockholder.... LOL!!! :-D -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?" ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
"SVTKate" wrote in message nk.net... There's an old saying that I try to live by. "Waste Not, want not." Chances are it's not the greed of a good deal, but the financial economics of it. ========================== EXACTLY!!!! :-) -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?" ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
"Crashj" wrote in message k.net... "~ Windsong ~" wrote in message ... That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed ponds rather than let someone enjoy them. ========================================= C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure Wal-Mart is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance company to be defrauded in this case. ## You just mentioned the INSURED employees! You can tell me these stores don't carry general theft insurance. Someone is PAYING for the ponds cut up and tossed out, along with all the things from the greenhouse that are dumped in a huge pile behind the building for the trash truck. As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what taxes are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense. If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers? ## I still say the insurance companies. Either them or the company they bought the merchandise from. Does anyone know for sure that Wally World EATS these losses? I'm only going by what I heard over the years from people who worked there (and K-Mart). It's still a selfish self-interested act on their part. Lowe's and HD mark things down as much 75% or more, and people love it - I don't see these places going under and it's good PR. The customer, that's who. That would be you and me. ## Yep, us too....... Crashj -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?" ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
"HA HA Budys Here" wrote in message ... Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home Depot, Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer. That's why the stores don't care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer (especially seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than sending it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it. ================================ What a waste.... -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?" ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
"Lydia" wrote in message ... I used to work at Barnes & Noble. During peak retail times publishers would send us extra copies of books thought to be in higher demand in the "mass market" format - that's the smaller size paperbacks. After said peak season ended and we had leftovers, the cover would be torn off and sent back to the publisher who would give the company credit for what they didn't sell. The staff were allowed to take 1 or 2 titles w/o their front covers home, but the rest were torn up into small sections of book and thrown in the dumpster! Surely those could have been donated to a charity organization or something. I always hated that. $$ How sickening. Think how much old people in a NH, or disabled shut-ins would love to have them. It's crossed my mind how much the elderly or disabled would love some of those plants piled up behind the Wal-Mart store. I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they were just going in the dumpster. $$ Or mark then down to almost nothing like the Lowe's store does. This way the store gets something, and people are very happy to remove this merchandise from the manager's face. :-) It makes for good will. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?" ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:09:23 -0500, "~ Windsong ~"
wrote: snip ===$$ How sickening. Think how much old people in a NH, or disabled shut-ins ===would love to have them. It's crossed my mind how much the elderly or ===disabled would love some of those plants piled up behind the Wal-Mart store. === === I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my === little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just === toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they === were just going in the dumpster. === ===$$ Or mark then down to almost nothing like the Lowe's store does. This way ===the store gets something, and people are very happy to remove this ===merchandise from the manager's face. :-) It makes for good will. This is exactly how I feel. Our local Lowes may mark something down but their dumpster is off limits and they never ever give anything for free, even old pallets or broken pavers. Home Depot on the oter hand has an area set up behind the store, and have pallets there with piles of broken and busted merchandise like walkay pavers, edgers, plants, busted bags of gravel and mulch with a big sign above the stuff saying FREE.......For the most part stuff will remain laying there for a long time, and even myself I will let a lot of stuff remain even if I could use it "eventually"......its not like I just have to have it, and why be selfish. Just yesterday I got 9 broken bags of cypress mulch and 11 bags of various bagged decorative stones etc, as well as a heap of broken walk pavers.......and 8 bags of shredded tires listed as soft playground mulch......The majority of plants and pavers and edgers I have around my property and used in my pond construction were obtained over time for free this way........They do not mind scratching my back and I sure don't mind repaying the favor as I then spend more money or at least try my best to utilize these places for any purchase I need. I spend some serious money in Home Depot, but very little in places like Lowes. Wal MArts reply to retreiving stuff from the dumpster is. We do not allow it, but we are not going to make any effort to guard our dumpster either........or go out of our way to prevent it. They simply can't give permission to remove the stuff, but once in the dumpster they are not going to stop you from retreiving plants etc either..........its at this point when stuff is in the dumpster that they met their responsibility in what their policy requires. Other places will have you arrested for tresspassing if you dive their dumpsters......... I have also been known to get flowers from Wal MArts dumpster and also from Home Depot, and take my time and nurse them back to health, and take them and plant them at various roadway memorial markers you see setup where people have been killed in accidents......This little act gives me a sense of pleasure and presents no hazzard to roadways. I have also nursed back to health a lot of plants and gave them to a elderly care center nearby, which really made the residents day..........I think there is much more to be gained for donating or giving items away to be used by those less fortunate or by those that really appreciate it even in a state of dissrepair than filling a landfill up and increasing the bank account. I sure did not intend for my original post to get so lengthy especially when the only content about ponding was the fact they were going to destroy and trash the liners.......... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
"~ Windsong ~" wrote:
"Stephen M. Henning" wrote: But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the stock room or storage trailer, etc. ========================= Again you have a *management* problem then. Where is the store MANAGER and ass't manager? Managers are employees also. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
"SVTKate" wrote:
This means an entire store with only 5 people on staff, one of them a manager, one of them an operations officer three of them minimum wage sales associates. Our Walmart has that many Seniors at the door greeting people. It has a similar number in the garden section just loading peoples cars. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
"SVTKate" wrote:
If you want to blame someone, blame the sorporation, not the employees. The company is to blame 80% of the time. It sounds like you don't like your job. Have you tried a different line of work. If you have to go around blaming people perhaps you aren't busy enough. |
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