I keep my fish food in the fridge...
Kirsten
"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" wrote in message
...
Hi Claudia,

The 55 degree rule is pretty good for our kopi. No food once the temp
falls below 55.

Pleco's die at that temp.

WH can be left. Ours don't die unless the growth core freezes hard.
Leaves fail and freeze. Over 50% make it to the new year very well. We
put plastic over them and the water circulates around them. The water
reaches 32, but no hard freeze.

Good luck.

Jim

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"ClaudCar" wrote in message
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Since we don't freeze . . . we can still "talk". How do I know if my
fish
are "hibernating" in their cave (under waterfall) or became egret food?
Babies haven't been seen since TDay, but the biggers were around till
they
got spooked by the egret and for sure lost 2 to it. The others have
hidden
since the Santa Ana's started and string algae is NOT growing so ASS U ME
the water is cold now. What should I do with their food - is it OK to
leave
in dark cupboard or freeze till they unhibernate?

One of my pleichotis did die, can't tell why - may be cold - looked
recent,
no decomposition.

Should I strip the dead leaves off the WH? and then do I just leave them
in
the upper WF basin?
______________________
Claudia
Totus Tuus

SO CAL Ponders
 

Since we don't freeze . . . we can still "talk". How do I know if my fish
are "hibernating" in their cave (under waterfall) or became egret food?
Babies haven't been seen since TDay, but the biggers were around till they
got spooked by the egret and for sure lost 2 to it. The others have hidden
since the Santa Ana's started and string algae is NOT growing so ASS U ME
the water is cold now. What should I do with their food - is it OK to leave
in dark cupboard or freeze till they unhibernate?

One of my pleichotis did die, can't tell why - may be cold - looked recent,
no decomposition.

Should I strip the dead leaves off the WH? and then do I just leave them in
the upper WF basin?
______________________
Claudia
Totus Tuus

Hi Claudia,

The 55 degree rule is pretty good for our kopi. No food once the temp falls
below 55.

Pleco's die at that temp.

WH can be left. Ours don't die unless the growth core freezes hard. Leaves
fail and freeze. Over 50% make it to the new year very well. We put
plastic over them and the water circulates around them. The water reaches
32, but no hard freeze.

Good luck.

Jim

--
____________________________________________
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"ClaudCar" wrote in message
news:MfGwd.37$L7.5@trnddc05...
Since we don't freeze . . . we can still "talk". How do I know if my fish
are "hibernating" in their cave (under waterfall) or became egret food?
Babies haven't been seen since TDay, but the biggers were around till they
got spooked by the egret and for sure lost 2 to it. The others have
hidden
since the Santa Ana's started and string algae is NOT growing so ASS U ME
the water is cold now. What should I do with their food - is it OK to
leave
in dark cupboard or freeze till they unhibernate?

One of my pleichotis did die, can't tell why - may be cold - looked
recent,
no decomposition.

Should I strip the dead leaves off the WH? and then do I just leave them
in
the upper WF basin?
______________________
Claudia
Totus Tuus

"ClaudCar" wrote:

Since we don't freeze . . . we can still "talk". How do I know if my fish
are "hibernating" in their cave (under waterfall) or became egret food?
Babies haven't been seen since TDay, but the biggers were around till they
got spooked by the egret and for sure lost 2 to it. The others have hidden
since the Santa Ana's started and string algae is NOT growing so ASS U ME
the water is cold now. What should I do with their food - is it OK to leave
in dark cupboard or freeze till they unhibernate?

One of my pleichotis did die, can't tell why - may be cold - looked recent,
no decomposition.

Should I strip the dead leaves off the WH? and then do I just leave them in
the upper WF basin?
______________________
Claudia
Totus Tuus



Hi Caludia,

Your fish will be active all winter. Don't feed them after your water temp
hits about 55. They will act like they want some, but it's best they don't
have it - cold water digestive problems. I just leave my WH and ship some in
spring to ponders in colder regions.

You might consider a scarecrow motion activated sprinkler to help keep your
bird away from your fish.




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string algae continues to grow in ice as long as there is sunlight.
freeze their food.. keeps in the nutrients. Ingrid

"ClaudCar" wrote:
string algae is NOT growing so ASS U ME
the water is cold now. What should I do with their food - is it OK to leave
in dark cupboard or freeze till they unhibernate?


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"kc" wrote in message
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I keep my fish food in the fridge...
Kirsten
snip

I keep mine as a layer of algae in the pond.

BV.

ClaudCar wrote:

One of my pleichotis did die, can't tell why - may be cold - looked
recent, no decomposition.

I'm guessing that's "plecostomus" - no access to taxa references here to
know if it's an actual genus. There is almost nowhere in the continental
US that a Pleco will survive in an unheated outdoor pond. S. Florida,
maybe Houston area - I've heard San Diego, so you _might_ just be far
enough south for them.
--
derek

I partially drained my pond, and then used left over shade fabric to do
inventory...

ClaudCar wrote:

Since we don't freeze . . . we can still "talk". How do I know if my fish
are "hibernating" in their cave (under waterfall) or became egret food?

Benign Vanilla wrote:


"kc" wrote in message
...
I keep my fish food in the fridge...
Kirsten
snip

I keep mine as a layer of algae in the pond.


LOL. That's my preferred technique, too. Feeding is for treats :-) It's
much easier to keep a pond balanced (or the closest approximation we can
manage) if you're not continually adding nutrients.
--
derek

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
...
ClaudCar wrote:

One of my pleichotis did die, can't tell why - may be cold - looked
recent, no decomposition.

I'm guessing that's "plecostomus" - no access to taxa references here to
know if it's an actual genus. There is almost nowhere in the continental
US that a Pleco will survive in an unheated outdoor pond. S. Florida,
maybe Houston area - I've heard San Diego, so you _might_ just be far
enough south for them.

Nor will a pl*co survive once mentioned on-line in full.

BV.

Benign Vanilla wrote:


"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
...
ClaudCar wrote:

One of my pleichotis did die, can't tell why - may be cold - looked
recent, no decomposition.

I'm guessing that's "plecostomus" - no access to taxa references here to
know if it's an actual genus. There is almost nowhere in the continental
US that a Pleco will survive in an unheated outdoor pond. S. Florida,
maybe Houston area - I've heard San Diego, so you _might_ just be far
enough south for them.

Nor will a pl*co survive once mentioned on-line in full.

I'm pretty sure the curse refers to the plecos owned by the person who
mentions them. Since I haven't had any in three years, I'm not overly
worried :-)
--
derek

Ah so if I don't see my GF then they aren't hiding. It was warm this past
week and NO ONE showed a fin. Water activated scarecrow is on and egret
hasn't been around. Cat sets off scarecrow. SIGH

so is there a reason then to keep the pond on 24/7 if no fish? water temp
is 50.
______________________
Claudia
Totus Tuus

Ah so if I don't see my GF then they aren't hiding. It was warm this past
week and NO ONE showed a fin. Water activated scarecrow is on and egret
hasn't been around. Cat sets off scarecrow. SIGH

so is there a reason then to keep the pond on 24/7 if no fish? water temp
is 50. Claudia

I'd leave it on if you've had an egret visit. When fish get scared they can
hide really well for a long time, especially in cool temps. I completely
cleaned a patio pond down to nothing, refilled and later found the 1 guppy
that was in there. Couldn't find it at all when I was moving the pots
around. ~ jan


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I dont know about you, but I dont think it gets that cold here in Long
Beach. I havent checked the temp of the water, but my koi have not stopped
asking for chow yet this winter, and I think its been the coldest winter in
a while.

I just reduce the amount I feed and go over to an every other day shcedule
when it gets this cold, but my fish are active enough, wandering around
every day, and they come up to feed as soon as I show up.

D

"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" wrote in message
...
Hi Claudia,

The 55 degree rule is pretty good for our kopi. No food once the temp
falls
below 55.

Pleco's die at that temp.

WH can be left. Ours don't die unless the growth core freezes hard.
Leaves
fail and freeze. Over 50% make it to the new year very well. We put
plastic over them and the water circulates around them. The water reaches
32, but no hard freeze.

Good luck.

Jim

--
____________________________________________
See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley
Ask me about Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $120+ per child) at:
jogathon.net

"ClaudCar" wrote in message
news:MfGwd.37$L7.5@trnddc05...
Since we don't freeze . . . we can still "talk". How do I know if my
fish
are "hibernating" in their cave (under waterfall) or became egret food?
Babies haven't been seen since TDay, but the biggers were around till
they
got spooked by the egret and for sure lost 2 to it. The others have
hidden
since the Santa Ana's started and string algae is NOT growing so ASS U
ME
the water is cold now. What should I do with their food - is it OK to
leave
in dark cupboard or freeze till they unhibernate?

One of my pleichotis did die, can't tell why - may be cold - looked
recent,
no decomposition.

Should I strip the dead leaves off the WH? and then do I just leave them

in
the upper WF basin?
______________________
Claudia
Totus Tuus