"Papa Red" wrote in message
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Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.


I would think it would be fine if you use a water conditioner with heavy
metal neutralizer (example - aquasafe) on/in the water left after draining.
They used to make air valves out of brass so I think brass should be fine
even without conditioner. I don't know for sure about refilling with the
garden hose yet though. Good luck and HTH, later!

A question about draining a tank,...
 

Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.

"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.


I personally would never use a hose, but I know of people who do. A friend
on a fish forum posted this..

"I read in one of my fish magazines that you should never fill your tanks up
with a water hose. They have been chemically treated with a product to make
them last longer. It will kill your fish within hours. The newer the hose
the greater the danger."
http://www.totalfishkeeping.com/inde...showtopic=4288

Just something to think about.

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Mar
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Vet Tech student

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 00:44:22 -0400, (Papa Red) wrote:

Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.


I first filled my 75 gallon tank with a garden hose two and a half
years ago. I had no fish loss. Since then I use a Gravel Vac.

dick

"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain
them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a
while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being
toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the
hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose,
but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank
y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.


I have done this with no ill effects, but it was years ago, and I no
longer feel it is worth the risk. Just go to the Home Improvement
store, and spend 10 bucks on a length of vinyl tubing. It's pennies a
foot, cheap peace of mind.

billy

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 04:25:27 -0700, "Billy"
wrote:




"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain
them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a
while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being
toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the
hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose,
but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank
y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.


I have done this with no ill effects, but it was years ago, and I no
longer feel it is worth the risk. Just go to the Home Improvement
store, and spend 10 bucks on a length of vinyl tubing. It's pennies a
foot, cheap peace of mind.

billy


I have a motorhome. I fill the water tanks from an outside faucet.
There are ready made hose made and used by motorhome owners just for
the purpose of transfering water to the motorhome water tanks. Check
with your local hardware store. Some have motorhome supplies.

dick

"I read in one of my fish magazines that you should never fill your tanks up
with a water hose. They have been chemically treated with a product to make
them last longer. It will kill your fish within hours. The newer the hose
the greater the danger."
http://www.totalfishkeeping.com/inde...showtopic=4288

Just something to think about.

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Mar

Yes, I read that same article. I filled a tank one time with a hose
because I did not know any better (did not lose any fish, heck those
african cichlids are tough buggers) but I would not ever do that now.
I have a python to drain and refill my tanks. It is especially useful
for larger tanks or for people like me with several tanks. Saves the
back big time : )

"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.

At our old home I would just open the window behind the tank and drain the
water into my flower bed. Then fill up with 1gal. water jugs used for "fish
only." It was not to hard on me but since we moved to the new house I can't
do it that way any more. I bought a python from Wal-Mart and water changes
are a breeze.

Vicki in Virginia

Ask yourself, what condition are the water pipes in, that deliver your water
and how long have they been in use. ????
bassett


"NEIL SUESZ" wrote in message
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"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.

At our old home I would just open the window behind the tank and drain the
water into my flower bed. Then fill up with 1gal. water jugs used for
"fish
only." It was not to hard on me but since we moved to the new house I
can't
do it that way any more. I bought a python from Wal-Mart and water
changes
are a breeze.

Vicki in Virginia

Well it seems that using the garden hose is out, because there is
nothing to attach it to in order to properly fill it up. And when I try
to fill it with water from the bathtub faucet, the hose has so many
dang-blasted kinks in it, that when I try and straighten out one kink,
another is created. So it's back to the bucket brigade, which is not
good, because one of the reasons that I am Social Security Disability,
is because I have Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, which
basically means that I don't breath so good. So using buckets to attend
to my seven tanks [approx.115 gallons total] isn't an easy task.
How much are those plastic gizmos that y'all have spoke of to drain
aquariums? And is there a company that makes and sells them, that I
could deal with directly, to not only get the lowest price, but then
maybe I could get my brother to buy one with his credit card, and he
would let me pay him in two payments. Thanks.~Dean.

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 04:05:08 -0400, (Papa Red) wrote:

Well it seems that using the garden hose is out, because there is
nothing to attach it to in order to properly fill it up. And when I try
to fill it with water from the bathtub faucet, the hose has so many
dang-blasted kinks in it, that when I try and straighten out one kink,
another is created. So it's back to the bucket brigade, which is not
good, because one of the reasons that I am Social Security Disability,
is because I have Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, which
basically means that I don't breath so good. So using buckets to attend
to my seven tanks [approx.115 gallons total] isn't an easy task.
How much are those plastic gizmos that y'all have spoke of to drain
aquariums? And is there a company that makes and sells them, that I
could deal with directly, to not only get the lowest price, but then
maybe I could get my brother to buy one with his credit card, and he
would let me pay him in two payments. Thanks.~Dean.


I did a Google on "gravel vac" and got 36,000 responses. Here is the
first one on the list:
http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/...d/2491/cid/700
The Gravel Vac comes in various lengths, this is for a 25 foot length
and the cost is about $25 American.

I had to buy an adaptor to match my kitchen outlet to the Gravel VAc,
another $5.

dick

Yea, Twenty five dollars and five bucks or so for the adaptor sounds
about right. I think I bought mine at Petsmart and had a ten dollar
off price match from another competitor. (It was $25.00 after the
discount) I got the adaptor from Lowes, you could probably pick one up
at any hardware store.

MarAzul wrote in message news:VtUne.742$tr.16@fed1read03...
I personally would never use a hose, but I know of people who do. A friend
on a fish forum posted this..

"I read in one of my fish magazines that you should never fill your tanks
up
with a water hose. They have been chemically treated with a product to
make
them last longer. It will kill your fish within hours. The newer the hose
the greater the danger."
http://www.totalfishkeeping.com/inde...showtopic=4288

I was at a state fair last year, and there was a company selling a clear,
spring-coiled garden hose.
The guy said it was one of the few hoses that was safe to drink out of.
I suppose this hose would probably be safe for fish-tank use.
At the time, I was thinking why anyone would want to drink out of a garden
hose, but he was right in that many garden hoses you find in stores carry
some kind of warning about drinking water from.

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 12:07:45 +1000, "bassett"
wrote:

Ask yourself, what condition are the water pipes in, that deliver your water
and how long have they been in use. ????
bassett


Municipal codes control the materials used to transport the water and
water treatment keeps controls the living materials. I think the
concern with water hoses has to do with the material, both metals and
the hose material being bad for fish/humans.

The hose I mentioned for filling motorhome water tanks I certified
safe for transporting water intended for human use. They cost a bit
more, of course.

The Gravel Vac is intended to transport water and not add harmful
chemicals.

I think their is too much caution, but the government has to error on
the side of caution and some people and fish may be more sensitive to
certain chemicals. Better safe than sorry.

dick

"NEIL SUESZ" wrote in message
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"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.

At our old home I would just open the window behind the tank and drain the
water into my flower bed. Then fill up with 1gal. water jugs used for
"fish
only." It was not to hard on me but since we moved to the new house I
can't
do it that way any more. I bought a python from Wal-Mart and water
changes
are a breeze.

Vicki in Virginia

It's bad to drink out of a garden hose??? 56 years I've been doing
it, and nothing's wrong with me,...other than I glow in the dark, which
causes my three eyes to squintLOL.
My brother wants me to hold off on buying that gizmo,...He says that
he can make me one for alot less money,... Which basically means that
I'm going to be confined to 'the bucket brigade' until he either gives
up,...or comes up with something that both works, and that hasn't been
created with anything toxic to either my fish or myself. ~Dean.

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:35:46 -0400, (Papa Red) wrote:

It's bad to drink out of a garden hose??? 56 years I've been doing
it, and nothing's wrong with me,...other than I glow in the dark, which
causes my three eyes to squintLOL.
My brother wants me to hold off on buying that gizmo,...He says that
he can make me one for alot less money,... Which basically means that
I'm going to be confined to 'the bucket brigade' until he either gives
up,...or comes up with something that both works, and that hasn't been
created with anything toxic to either my fish or myself. ~Dean.

I guess theoretically one might get something bad from the hose, but
as a kid, who knew, who cared. Today, I use the special hose on the
motorhome and have a filtered spigot on the sink. All silliness, but
why not be cautious? If I were thirsty today and saw a nearby spigot
with a garden hose attached, I would still use it although I would
let it run to clear the standing water and let the hose cool.

Too many theories, too many laws, too many opinions, we make a living
hell for ourselves with our beliefs! IMHO g

dick