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Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
I think I have blue-green algae in my tank (cyanobacteria). The problem
is that it's not green at all. It's brown in color. It seems to behave like blue-green algae because it's usually in the spots with little water movement, on the gravel and hanging on anacharis/elodea and surrounding my hairgrass. It's like brown spiderweb hanging on the plants. On the gravel it looks like some fuzzy stuff. I know it's not hair algae because I have some hair algae on my anubias. |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
"Shorty" wrote in message ups.com... I think I have blue-green algae in my tank (cyanobacteria). The problem is that it's not green at all. It's brown in color. This stuff is a nightmare. I have it in one of my 55g tanks and can't get rid of it. It started out looking like almost black soot and now is a deep reddish brown. Adding extra light to encourage green algae made it grow even faster. :-( It's starting to kill off the plants in the tank that were thriving before the invasion. It seems to behave like blue-green algae because it's usually in the spots with little water movement, on the gravel and hanging on anacharis/elodea and surrounding my hairgrass. Eventually it will cover everything, smothering the plants to death. It's like brown spiderweb hanging on the plants. On the gravel it looks like some fuzzy stuff. I know it's not hair algae because I have some hair algae on my anubias. Maybe someone has the answer how to get rid of this stuff. -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
In article . com,
Shorty wrote: I think I have blue-green algae in my tank (cyanobacteria). The problem is that it's not green at all. It's brown in color. It seems to behave like blue-green algae because it's usually in the spots with little water movement, on the gravel and hanging on anacharis/elodea and surrounding my hairgrass. It's like brown spiderweb hanging on the plants. On the gravel it looks like some fuzzy stuff. I know it's not hair algae because I have some hair algae on my anubias. If it were me I'd change 80% of the water for two days (algae likes contant coditions, you can "shock" it to death or at least hurt it badly) then fertilize properly with macro and micronutrients and use Flourish Excel. If should be gone in about 4 days if you do this. And I do do this. -- Need Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home page: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
Already cross-posted and I don't know where you're posting from.
"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... If it were me I'd change 80% of the water for two days (algae likes contant coditions, you can "shock" it to death or at least hurt it badly) then fertilize properly with macro and micronutrients and use Flourish Excel. If should be gone in about 4 days if you do this. ===================== This was already suggested and it makes this stuff grow even FASTER than ever. It seems to love nothing better than a water change and fertilizer. Doubling the light also gave it a boost. There has to be some other answer......... Maybe you're talking about a different type of algae/bacteria/diatom. -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
In article ,
Koi-Lo wrote: Already cross-posted and I don't know where you're posting from. "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... If it were me I'd change 80% of the water for two days (algae likes contant coditions, you can "shock" it to death or at least hurt it badly) then fertilize properly with macro and micronutrients and use Flourish Excel. If should be gone in about 4 days if you do this. ===================== This was already suggested and it makes this stuff grow even FASTER than ever. It seems to love nothing better than a water change and fertilizer. Doubling the light also gave it a boost. There has to be some other answer......... Maybe you're talking about a different type of algae/bacteria/diatom. Suggested? I'm telling you my experience. And no, I'm talking about all algae. I've done this many many times and it has yet to fail. You need to get all the dirt out of the tank too, but that goes without saying. -- Need Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home page: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
I read that cyanobacteria doesn't like water movement and oxygen. I
also read in some places that it appears when nitrates are very low. I will do a partial water change... and get more water movement and aeration. I was minimizing aeration to keep the CO2 in the tank but it might be better to increase CO2 injection and aerate at the same time. I will also add more nitrate in addition to the regular amounts. Will let you know what happens. |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
"Shorty" wrote in message
oups.com... I read that cyanobacteria doesn't like water movement and oxygen. I also read in some places that it appears when nitrates are very low. I will do a partial water change... and get more water movement and aeration. I was minimizing aeration to keep the CO2 in the tank but it might be better to increase CO2 injection and aerate at the same time. I will also add more nitrate in addition to the regular amounts. Will let you know what happens. It doesn't sound like cynobacteria. I think someone had a good algae ID web page on their site, Mike? -- www.NetMax.tk |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
"NetMax" wrote in message
... "Shorty" wrote in message oups.com... I read that cyanobacteria doesn't like water movement and oxygen. I also read in some places that it appears when nitrates are very low. I will do a partial water change... and get more water movement and aeration. I was minimizing aeration to keep the CO2 in the tank but it might be better to increase CO2 injection and aerate at the same time. I will also add more nitrate in addition to the regular amounts. Will let you know what happens. It doesn't sound like cynobacteria. I think someone had a good algae ID web page on their site, Mike? -- www.NetMax.tk Home now and with my bookmarks handy (which should really be easier to move between computers!). Here is the link I was thinking of: http://mikes-machine.mine.nu/algae_g...htm#Bushy_alga -- www.NetMax.tk |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Koi-Lo wrote: Already cross-posted and I don't know where you're posting from. "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... If it were me I'd change 80% of the water for two days (algae likes contant coditions, you can "shock" it to death or at least hurt it badly) then fertilize properly with macro and micronutrients and use Flourish Excel. If should be gone in about 4 days if you do this. ===================== This was already suggested and it makes this stuff grow even FASTER than ever. It seems to love nothing better than a water change and fertilizer. Doubling the light also gave it a boost. There has to be some other answer......... Maybe you're talking about a different type of algae/bacteria/diatom. Suggested? I'm telling you my experience. Sorry, I don't remember who suggest it. I didn't mean you did. And no, I'm talking about all algae. I've done this many many times and it has yet to fail. You need to get all the dirt out of the tank too, but that goes without saying. The gravel is thoroughly vacuumed twice a month like the 55 that doesn't have the problem. These 2 tanks are set up side by side (on the same day) with everything being equal, yet one has a harmless green algae and the other this nasty looking black stuff. :-( I don't want to waste money adding more plants when I know this stuff will grow over them and smother them. -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
"Shorty" wrote in message oups.com... I read that cyanobacteria doesn't like water movement and oxygen. I also read in some places that it appears when nitrates are very low. There is a large Aquaclear on the tank and a powerhead/aerator at one end that causes a good circular current in the tank. This also helps keep "crud" in circulation - better to be picked up by the filter. Nitrates stay around 20ppm. I don't have the kits to measure potassium and phosphates. The 55g right next to it, set up exactly the same, has a nice green algae. This is a real mystery to me. None of the other tanks have this nasty stuff, all have normal green algae. I will do a partial water change... and get more water movement and aeration. I was minimizing aeration to keep the CO2 in the tank but it might be better to increase CO2 injection and aerate at the same time. I will also add more nitrate in addition to the regular amounts. Will let you know what happens. Yes, keep us informed. -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
Suggested? I'm telling you my experience.
Sorry, I don't remember who suggest it. I didn't mean you did. No I rememebr the guy that did. He was the only one and he's missing something. And no, I'm talking about all algae. I've done this many many times and it has yet to fail. You need to get all the dirt out of the tank too, but that goes without saying. The gravel is thoroughly vacuumed twice a month like the 55 that doesn't have the problem. These 2 tanks are set up side by side (on the same day) with everything being equal, yet one has a harmless green algae and the other this nasty looking black stuff. :-( I don't want to waste money adding more plants when I know this stuff will grow over them and smother them. Well, there's ammonia in there or you wouldn't have algae and it is algae (or diatoms, same deal). Remove all you can. Change 80% of the water for two days. Add Flourish excel. Fetilize with PMDD. Do buy new plants, they'l be ok, honest. Hornwort would be best. Lots of it. (unless your fish eat it, floating water sprint would be good too). in the green tank, blackitout for 3 days then do the above. If you do all thse things and don't miss one it shoudl be fine. That's really all I do and it only takes a few days to bring the worst tank to crystal clear newness. And I've had more filty green tanks than Cartes has pills. -- Need Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home page: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... Well, there's ammonia in there or you wouldn't have algae and it is algae (or diatoms, same deal). A test the other day showed Nitrates at 20ppm and ammonia at 0. Remove all you can. Change 80% of the water for two days. Add Flourish excel. Fetilize with PMDD. OK, I have the Flourish excel but what is PMDD? Do buy new plants, they'l be ok, honest. Hornwort would be best. Lots of it. (unless your fish eat it, floating water sprint would be good too). All my hornwart died in the last 3 months after YEARS of thriving in my pools, ponds and tanks. It's not always easy to find here. It just stopped growing in *all* the tanks, looked sicker and more miserable until I tossed it. That's another thing that's really weird. What would make all the hornwart suddenly fail? I bought the original clump back in 1989 when I was living in town. in the green tank, blackitout for 3 days then do the above. If you do all thse things and don't miss one it shoudl be fine. That's really all I do and it only takes a few days to bring the worst tank to crystal clear newness. And I've had more filty green tanks than Cartes has pills. The small amount of green algae doesn't bother me in the other tanks. It's the tank with the blackish red sooty crap that's got me bugged. -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
All my hornwart died in the last 3 months after YEARS of thriving in my
pools, ponds and tanks. It's not always easy to find here. It just stopped growing in *all* the tanks, looked sicker and more miserable until I tossed it. That's another thing that's really weird. What would make all the hornwart suddenly fail? I bought the original clump back in 1989 when I was living in town. Just like a car engine needs fuel, spark air, plants need light, food and water. It didn't have one of them. Given you have algae I'd say food; it stareved to death by running out of some nutrient. I'm not aware of any chemical naturally (or unnaturally) exisint in water that will kill hornwort. For example mosses are very sensitive to sulphates. I've never heard hornwort is - doesn'[t mean that's the case,I've just never heard it. The small amount of green algae doesn't bother me in the other tanks. It's the tank with the blackish red sooty crap that's got me bugged. Excel should turn this white almost overnight. Despite the warning not to you can safely double dose. There's a healthy safety margin built into this stuff. -- Need Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home page: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else?
"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... All my hornwart died in the last 3 months after YEARS of thriving in my pools, ponds and tanks. It's not always easy to find here. It just stopped growing in *all* the tanks, looked sicker and more miserable until I tossed it. That's another thing that's really weird. What would make all the hornwart suddenly fail? I bought the original clump back in 1989 when I was living in town. Just like a car engine needs fuel, spark air, plants need light, food and water. It didn't have one of them. Given you have algae I'd say food; it stareved to death by running out of some nutrient. I'm not aware of any chemical naturally (or unnaturally) exisint in water that will kill hornwort. For example mosses are very sensitive to sulphates. I've never heard hornwort is - doesn'[t mean that's the case,I've just never heard it. The small amount of green algae doesn't bother me in the other tanks. It's the tank with the blackish red sooty crap that's got me bugged. Excel should turn this white almost overnight. Despite the warning not to you can safely double dose. There's a healthy safety margin built into this stuff. ================== Thanks I'll let you know how this turns out. I have to order more..... take about a week to get here. -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else? = PMDD
"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... Add Flourish excel. Fetilize with PMDD. ===================== Is PMDD a separate product? The catalog doesn't say. If so, what is PMDD and were do I get it? -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else? = PMDD
Poor Mans ??? Dosing
A program of nutrient dosing based on simple ingredients where you "roll your own" to suit your environment and plants - see Tom Barr's website (don't have a link here at present but can search for the "Barr Report" "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... Add Flourish excel. Fetilize with PMDD. ===================== Is PMDD a separate product? The catalog doesn't say. If so, what is PMDD and were do I get it? -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else? = PMDD
Found it!
http://www.barrreport.com/ "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... Add Flourish excel. Fetilize with PMDD. ===================== Is PMDD a separate product? The catalog doesn't say. If so, what is PMDD and were do I get it? -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else? = PMDD
also....
http://www.hydroponics.com/info/aquatics/pmdd.htm http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Fertilizer/ http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Fertilizer/pmdd-tim.html "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... Add Flourish excel. Fetilize with PMDD. ===================== Is PMDD a separate product? The catalog doesn't say. If so, what is PMDD and were do I get it? -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Blue-green algae / cyanobacteria? Or is it something else? = PMDD
"richard_b" wrote in message ... also.... http://www.hydroponics.com/info/aquatics/pmdd.htm http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Fertilizer/ http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Fertilizer/pmdd-tim.html ========================= Thanks Richard. I'm going to check out every one. :-) -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
I have it in my tank and a 55 gram can not be Get rid of it. It started, almost looks like black soot, it is a deep Reddish brown. Add extra lighting, to encourage it to grow algae Even faster.
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I will do a partial water change ... and get more water movement and aeration. I try to reduce the ventilation to keep carbon dioxide in the tank, but it may be better to increase the carbon dioxide injection and ventilation at the same time. I will also add more nitrate addition to the regular amount.
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