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Suzie-Q March 21st 06 11:17 AM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.
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~~~~~~
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Pete Becker March 21st 06 12:09 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Suzie-Q wrote:

Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.


600 top-heavy pounds, rolling across an uneven floor? Sounds like a
disaster in the making. Move it very carefully.

--

Pete Becker
Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd.

mikelincs March 21st 06 01:45 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
I have a 120L tank on a cabinet stand, and here in Spain where the vast
majority of floors are tiled it is very easy to slide along and move,
even for one person, but I certainly would be very wary of using
wheels, unless you are using those of industrial strength as most just
will not stand the strain


Nikki March 21st 06 02:00 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 

"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
...
Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.
--
8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~
"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson

http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/
http://www.intergnat.com/pussygames/


I ask my husband the same thing last night we are setting up an 120 gl,
sounded like a good idea to me also, he said "no way" first reason because
as someone else stated they would have to be strong wheels, second reason,
he has the notion that fish tanks should not be moved around, but moving it
while full with water could cause damage to the tank, or your house, if
something would happen. But I also have a 55 gl, empty at the moment, we had
a pacu in it for years and I (he) moved it a few times by taking most of
the water out and pulling it. not something you want to do unless you have
to.
Nikki



Koi-Lo March 21st 06 05:27 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 

"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
...
Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.

==========================
That would put all the weight on only 4 points on the floor. A stand
distributes the weight all along it's length and width. I'll pass on this
idea.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o





Mr. Gardener March 21st 06 09:00 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:27:04 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:


"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
...
Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.

==========================
That would put all the weight on only 4 points on the floor. A stand
distributes the weight all along it's length and width. I'll pass on this
idea.


That's been in the back of my mind since this thread began, and for
thirty years I've been setting up aquariums in my 200 plus years
houses. These old post and beams with broad floorboards can take a
lot. And the post and beam construction style has a little wiggle room
built in for the inevitable shifts of the structure from season to
season. They stand up well to hurricanes and tornadoes as well. I've
thought less about the overall support of the floor under the aquarium
as I have about the individual tiny spots that the four legs of a
typical iron aquarium stand distributes its weight. Simply exchanging
the iron stand for a wooden structure with, say, 1x1 or 1x2 legs will
distribute the weight tremendously. All of my aquariums sit on wooden
furniture intended for something else. All of the furniture "stands",
rest on the floor on solid vertical boards wrapped all the way around,
rather than 4 legs. After we got done changing baby diapers we turned
the chest of drawers with the baby changing platform on top into a
perfect stand for a 29 gallon tank. The bureau even has raised edges
around the top, like a dry sink. Perfect. I could overflow the tank
and it wouldn't drip on the floor. Another long time aquarium stand
was originally a storage cabinet for record albums. (Younger readers,
please check with Google for "record player".) When spanning floor
joists near a weight bearing wall, I would think that spreading the
weight over 4 or 6 foot distances evenly would be less stressful on
everything than distributing the weight on 2 little legs 6 feet apart.
My father was an engineer, so when the Oedipal bug hit me at 5, I
decided I would fix him by letting the left side of my brain atrophy.
And the technical wizardry in this message is the result. Eat your
heart out, Bucky Fuller.

-- Mister Gardener

Richard Sexton March 21st 06 09:01 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
In article ,
Pete Becker wrote:
Suzie-Q wrote:

Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.


600 top-heavy pounds, rolling across an uneven floor? Sounds like a
disaster in the making. Move it very carefully.


They make them for cars, and they lock. As long as they're rated for the
correct amount of weight, and lock no problem. In theory.

I can't say I've ever actually heard of anybody doing this, although
I have seen a killi-condo that had lots of small tanks on sliding rails
like drawers.


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Pete Becker March 21st 06 09:41 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Richard Sexton wrote:
In article ,
Pete Becker wrote:

Suzie-Q wrote:


Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.


600 top-heavy pounds, rolling across an uneven floor? Sounds like a
disaster in the making. Move it very carefully.



They make them for cars, and they lock. As long as they're rated for the
correct amount of weight, and lock no problem. In theory.


Yup. And SUV's don't roll over. g Any heavy weight, high above a
narrow base, is asking for trouble if you try to move it. Doesn't take
much to tip it over.

--

Pete Becker
Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd.

Roy March 21st 06 09:52 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Well actually the wheels could be pretty simple and not overly built
and it would probbaly hold up just fine. The biggest weak link is the
axle assembly, and how its attached to the stand overall. They maake a
vast assortment of devices that you can easily lift 500 pounds or more
with a simple step of the foot, raising it up ands into the lock
position, then you can roll it where needed, then step on it again and
it unlatches and drops back to the full down position. These devices
when installed still allow full complete contact of the frame or stand
assembly when in the down position. When up.it matters not as its not
meant to be left in the up positioon for any time other than moving. I
tend to agree its best to place tank where it needs to be in the
first place and not move it around when rearranging the furniture in
the room.

Some if not most of the typical stands I have seen that are being
peddled by lfs under major tank manufacturers nnames leave a lot to be
desired.........and I personally would be hard pressed to fit any type
of wheels to them......as I sort of view those stands as barely being
able to suport them selves yet alone a tank full of water and gravel.


On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:00:22 -0500, "Nikki"
wrote:

"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
...
Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.
--
8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~
"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson

http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/
http://www.intergnat.com/pussygames/

I ask my husband the same thing last night we are setting up an 120 gl,
sounded like a good idea to me also, he said "no way" first reason because
as someone else stated they would have to be strong wheels, second reason,
he has the notion that fish tanks should not be moved around, but moving it
while full with water could cause damage to the tank, or your house, if
something would happen. But I also have a 55 gl, empty at the moment, we had
a pacu in it for years and I (he) moved it a few times by taking most of
the water out and pulling it. not something you want to do unless you have
to.
Nikki


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Koi-Lo March 21st 06 10:36 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Moments before spontaneously combusting Mr. Gardener at
was heard opining:

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:27:04 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:
That would put all the weight on only 4 points on the floor. A stand
distributes the weight all along it's length and width. I'll pass
on this idea.


That's been in the back of my mind since this thread began, and for
thirty years I've been setting up aquariums in my 200 plus years
houses. These old post and beams with broad floorboards can take a
lot. And the post and beam construction style has a little wiggle room
built in for the inevitable shifts of the structure from season to
season. They stand up well to hurricanes and tornadoes as well. I've
thought less about the overall support of the floor under the aquarium
as I have about the individual tiny spots that the four legs of a
typical iron aquarium stand distributes its weight. Simply exchanging
the iron stand for a wooden structure with, say, 1x1 or 1x2 legs will
distribute the weight tremendously. All of my aquariums sit on wooden
furniture intended for something else. All of the furniture "stands",
rest on the floor on solid vertical boards wrapped all the way around,
rather than 4 legs. After we got done changing baby diapers we turned
the chest of drawers with the baby changing platform on top into a
perfect stand for a 29 gallon tank. The bureau even has raised edges
around the top, like a dry sink. Perfect. I could overflow the tank
and it wouldn't drip on the floor. Another long time aquarium stand
was originally a storage cabinet for record albums. (Younger readers,
please check with Google for "record player".) When spanning floor
joists near a weight bearing wall, I would think that spreading the
weight over 4 or 6 foot distances evenly would be less stressful on
everything than distributing the weight on 2 little legs 6 feet apart.
My father was an engineer, so when the Oedipal bug hit me at 5, I
decided I would fix him by letting the left side of my brain atrophy.
And the technical wizardry in this message is the result. Eat your
heart out, Bucky Fuller.

-- Mister Gardener

=======================
I have one of those old four footed metal stands for a 55g/top and
30L/bottom. When I was using it it was set on 2x4's that were stained and
polyurethane to help distribute the weight across the floor joists. I think
I'm going to set my 30L up on the large strong commercial coffee table in
the sunroom. I'll have to get rid of some tropical plants. I feel like
I'm playing musical furniture here.... there's never enough wall space for
tanks. :-(
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o







dc March 22nd 06 12:59 AM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Suzie-Q wrote in news:sme617x-360202.05175821032006
@news.west.earthlink.net:

Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?


Bad idea.

Even if you could make such a structure sound enough to support that much
weight on wheels, the tank itself may not be able to stand up to being
moved around in such a way while full.

Plus water holds a lot of inertia, even if you moved it very slowly it
wouldn't take very much for a little resonance to build up and then SLOSH
SLOSH SPLASH (and possibly CRACK!)... what a mess.



NetMax March 22nd 06 01:35 AM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
...
Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.
--
8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~
"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson

http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/
http://www.intergnat.com/pussygames/


Not good.
Wheels rated for that weight are rollers, which typically travel in one
direction. Pivoting rollers for that weight require some camber so they
orient themselves, and are a more complicated assembly requiring greater
structural integrity where they attach to the stand.

Besides that i) top heavy (somewhat unsafe to push), ii) the moment of
inertia to get it moving might slosh water (as will stopping), and most
importantly iii) aquarium stands are designed for a static vertical load,
and would be unsafe travelling at any speed (horizontal stress is not a
good thing).

What I've done is to put a sheet of carpet under the tank stand (assumes
the rest of the floor is hardwood or similar slippery surface). Then you
can sometimes pull the carpet around, to re-position the tank. Depending
on tank size, you may need to remove a quantity of water, clamp ropes to
the carpet (wrap rope around a 2x4 and then clamp two 2x4s to the end of
the carpet, and then pull on rope). In this manner, the horizontal
stress is much less (tank only instead of tank & floor resistance). hth
--
www.NetMax.tk



Richard Sexton March 22nd 06 07:56 AM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Lee Valley lists in their catalog wheels that you bolt on with
plates that are good for 1000lbs each. They lock. If you move the
tank SLOWLY you'll hve no problems.

Actually you can move it QUICKLY, it's not the velocity that
gets you it's the acceleration (and deceleration).

Don't make any sudden moves.

I think it's a cool idea.

--
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Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net
633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net

Dick March 22nd 06 11:14 AM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:01:55 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Sexton) wrote:

In article ,
Pete Becker wrote:
Suzie-Q wrote:

Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.


600 top-heavy pounds, rolling across an uneven floor? Sounds like a
disaster in the making. Move it very carefully.


They make them for cars, and they lock. As long as they're rated for the
correct amount of weight, and lock no problem. In theory.

I can't say I've ever actually heard of anybody doing this, although
I have seen a killi-condo that had lots of small tanks on sliding rails
like drawers.



The right wheels is one thing, the correct frame is another. Cabinets
are designed to stand on the floor, not 4 corners of the cabinet.
Cars and trucks do sit on 4 corners, but the frame is built to work
that way. Also, an improper cabinet will sag between the wheels
meaning the tank frame will not have proper support.

As attractive as the idea is for those that like to rearrange things,
I would be very cautious.

dick

Suzie-Q March 22nd 06 11:23 AM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
In article ,
"Koi-Lo" wrote:

- "Suzie-Q" wrote in message
- ...
- Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
- you have to move the acquarium?
-
- I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.
- ==========================
- That would put all the weight on only 4 points on the floor. A stand
- distributes the weight all along it's length and width. I'll pass on this
- idea.

Well, actually I was thinking about six or eight wheels, or more.

I've given up the idea. Too many negatives!

What do you think about putting a bunch of those "super sliders" on
the bottom of the stand? You know - those [teflon] things that are
supposed to make furniture effortless to move. There are some that are
only about an inch wide, and some that are larger, of course.

You see, I have cats that like to find snakes and things out in the
backyard, then bring them in the house (alive) and then lose them
behind a piece of furniture. I often find live (or dead) creatures
in my house. I'd like to be able to get behind the fishtank if I
smell some rotting corpse in my house and it's coming from behind
the fishtank/stand!

((Anyone who says, "Get rid of the cats," will be considered an
idiot and ignored. ;-) ))
--
8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~
"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson

http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/
http://www.intergnat.com/pussygames/

NetMax March 22nd 06 11:37 AM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Koi-Lo" wrote:

- "Suzie-Q" wrote in message
- ...
- Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
- you have to move the acquarium?
-
- I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.
- ==========================
- That would put all the weight on only 4 points on the floor. A
stand
- distributes the weight all along it's length and width. I'll pass
on this
- idea.

Well, actually I was thinking about six or eight wheels, or more.

I've given up the idea. Too many negatives!

What do you think about putting a bunch of those "super sliders" on
the bottom of the stand? You know - those [teflon] things that are
supposed to make furniture effortless to move. There are some that are
only about an inch wide, and some that are larger, of course.

You see, I have cats that like to find snakes and things out in the
backyard, then bring them in the house (alive) and then lose them
behind a piece of furniture. I often find live (or dead) creatures
in my house. I'd like to be able to get behind the fishtank if I
smell some rotting corpse in my house and it's coming from behind
the fishtank/stand!

((Anyone who says, "Get rid of the cats," will be considered an
idiot and ignored. ;-) ))
--
8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~
"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson

http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/
http://www.intergnat.com/pussygames/


The Teflon pads have possibilities. Make sure they would not come off
when being moved (you don't want to get hung on 5 legs), as it's unlikely
all 6 will be at the same force when being moved along an uneven floor.
I would make a 'rake' to scrape, brush & dust behind furniture, rather
than moving the furniture or getting rid of the cats. jmo.
--
www.NetMax.tk



Kurt March 22nd 06 12:10 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
dc wrote in
:

Suzie-Q wrote in
news:sme617x-360202.05175821032006 @news.west.earthlink.net:

Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?


Bad idea.

Even if you could make such a structure sound enough to support
that much weight on wheels, the tank itself may not be able to
stand up to being moved around in such a way while full.


Partial solution to that (tank failure) is to drain about 3/4s of the
water. You are still looking at a top heavy structure though. And as
was pointed out above and in other responses, the structure of the
stand is another area of concern. Many commercial stands are not built
with enough structural integrity to add wheels/casters. Easier to do
than wheels/casters are teflon funiture sliders ("Super Sliders") that
only add 1/4 inch or 1 cm height to the stand and tank. The sliders
work well on carpeting, but not necessarily on hardwood or tiled
floors.


Plus water holds a lot of inertia, even if you moved it very
slowly it wouldn't take very much for a little resonance to build
up and then SLOSH SLOSH SPLASH (and possibly CRACK!)... what a
mess.


The intertia in this case is a second significant factor. Unless you
rig up some sort of baffles in the tank to limit the distance of the
interial waves generated, splashing is going to be a problem. Even with
the tank drained 3/4s empty the waves will stir up almost all of the
detritus in the gravel making a hideous cloudy mess.
--
Cheers,
Kurt


Kurt March 22nd 06 12:17 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Suzie-Q wrote in
:

What do you think about putting a bunch of those "super sliders"
on the bottom of the stand? You know - those [teflon] things that
are supposed to make furniture effortless to move. There are some
that are only about an inch wide, and some that are larger, of
course.


See my other response. The sliders do a good job, but you will need to
remove at least 3/4s of the water and do things slowly. When I've moved
either furniture, refrigerators, or aquaria and stands, the lower that
you apply moving force (pulling or pushing) the better. The lower the
center of force minimizes the tendency to topple the whole structure.
And go *slow*.

I rather like NetMax's idea of using a sheet of carpeting with wooden
battens clamped on the pulling end.

--
Cheers,
Kurt


Mr. Gardener March 22nd 06 12:32 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 05:14:03 -0600, Dick
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:01:55 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Sexton) wrote:

In article ,
Pete Becker wrote:
Suzie-Q wrote:

Have any of you ever put wheels on your aquarium stand, in case
you have to move the acquarium?

I plan to get a 55-gal aquarium soon.

600 top-heavy pounds, rolling across an uneven floor? Sounds like a
disaster in the making. Move it very carefully.


They make them for cars, and they lock. As long as they're rated for the
correct amount of weight, and lock no problem. In theory.

I can't say I've ever actually heard of anybody doing this, although
I have seen a killi-condo that had lots of small tanks on sliding rails
like drawers.



The right wheels is one thing, the correct frame is another. Cabinets
are designed to stand on the floor, not 4 corners of the cabinet.
Cars and trucks do sit on 4 corners, but the frame is built to work
that way. Also, an improper cabinet will sag between the wheels
meaning the tank frame will not have proper support.

As attractive as the idea is for those that like to rearrange things,
I would be very cautious.

dick


If using wheels, I think it would still be wise to empty as much water
from the aquarium as possible, empty the cabinet, and get some help.
This is probably no more work that doing the same thing without
wheels. Either way, it's a good excuse to invite some friends over for
a pizza and beer party. Ration the beer carefully until after the tank
has been moved.

-- Mister Gardener

Mr. Gardener March 22nd 06 12:35 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:23:13 GMT, Suzie-Q
wrote:

What do you think about putting a bunch of those "super sliders" on
the bottom of the stand? You know - those [teflon] things that are
supposed to make furniture effortless to move. There are some that are
only about an inch wide, and some that are larger, of course.

You see, I have cats that like to find snakes and things out in the
backyard, then bring them in the house (alive) and then lose them
behind a piece of furniture. I often find live (or dead) creatures
in my house. I'd like to be able to get behind the fishtank if I
smell some rotting corpse in my house and it's coming from behind
the fishtank/stand!


The super sliders sound a lot safer.

((Anyone who says, "Get rid of the cats," will be considered an
idiot and ignored. ;-) ))


I wasn't going to say that. I was simply going to suggest that you
feed the cats. We've tried it at our house and it works wonders.

-- Mister Gardener

Frank March 22nd 06 02:06 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Suzie-Q wrote,
((Anyone who says, "Get rid of the cats," will be
considered an idiot and ignored. ;-) ))


Well - - - I'm an idiot, and going to be ignored, so I need not say it.
Where I come from, if it's last name is snake, it's killed.
..............
Frank


Richard Sexton March 22nd 06 02:53 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
In article ,
Mr. Gardener wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:23:13 GMT, Suzie-Q
wrote:

What do you think about putting a bunch of those "super sliders" on
the bottom of the stand? You know - those [teflon] things that are
supposed to make furniture effortless to move. There are some that are
only about an inch wide, and some that are larger, of course.

You see, I have cats that like to find snakes and things out in the
backyard, then bring them in the house (alive) and then lose them
behind a piece of furniture. I often find live (or dead) creatures
in my house. I'd like to be able to get behind the fishtank if I
smell some rotting corpse in my house and it's coming from behind
the fishtank/stand!


The super sliders sound a lot safer.


No they dont, they sound like a disaster waitng to happen. Pull. Not moving.
Ugh. Pull a bit harder, still not moving pull harder, stiction finally overcome
it finall moves, but now, pulling as hard as you had to to overcome stiction
it now accelerates far to quickly and either sloshes about or just falls over.

Proper wheels on a sturdy (probably homebuilt and overengineered) stand/cabinet
would be far far safer.

Of course if this is just to fish out dead things wouldn't it be easier to
just put the thing 8" from the wall or something so it's possible to reach behind?

--
Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org
Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net
633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net

Pete Becker March 22nd 06 03:13 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
Richard Sexton wrote:

Of course if this is just to fish out dead things wouldn't it be easier to
just put the thing 8" from the wall or something so it's possible to reach behind?


That's so twentieth century.

--

Pete Becker
Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd.

Richard Sexton March 22nd 06 04:13 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
In article ,
Pete Becker wrote:
Richard Sexton wrote:

Of course if this is just to fish out dead things wouldn't it be easier to
just put the thing 8" from the wall or something so it's possible to reach behind?


That's so twentieth century.


More like eighteenth century. I figure it's what the Shakers would do.

--
Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org
Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
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Mr. Gardener March 22nd 06 04:51 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:53:36 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Sexton) wrote:

In article ,
Mr. Gardener wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:23:13 GMT, Suzie-Q
wrote:

What do you think about putting a bunch of those "super sliders" on
the bottom of the stand? You know - those [teflon] things that are
supposed to make furniture effortless to move. There are some that are
only about an inch wide, and some that are larger, of course.

You see, I have cats that like to find snakes and things out in the
backyard, then bring them in the house (alive) and then lose them
behind a piece of furniture. I often find live (or dead) creatures
in my house. I'd like to be able to get behind the fishtank if I
smell some rotting corpse in my house and it's coming from behind
the fishtank/stand!


The super sliders sound a lot safer.


No they dont, they sound like a disaster waitng to happen. Pull. Not moving.
Ugh. Pull a bit harder, still not moving pull harder, stiction finally overcome
it finall moves, but now, pulling as hard as you had to to overcome stiction
it now accelerates far to quickly and either sloshes about or just falls over.


Yes, they do.
Pull. Not moving.
Ugh. Wheels not turning. Pull a bit harder, still not moving pull
harder, stiction finally overcome it finally moves, the wheels begin
turning, but now, pulling as hard as you had to
overcome stiction it now accelerates far too quickly, and your
neighbor walks in the front door, sees this rolling thunder of water
and fish chugging toward her, steps aside and out the door rolls
the monster tank, into the road, down the hill, while your pizza and
beer filled helpers run willy nilly after it like a scene from The
Three Stooges . . . .

-- Mister Gardener

Mr. Gardener March 22nd 06 04:57 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:23:13 GMT, Suzie-Q
wrote:


You see, I have cats that like to find snakes and things out in the
backyard, then bring them in the house (alive) and then lose them
behind a piece of furniture. I often find live (or dead) creatures
in my house. I'd like to be able to get behind the fishtank if I
smell some rotting corpse in my house and it's coming from behind
the fishtank/stand!


Train your cats. Mine bring home birds and squirrel skins and deposit
them neatly in my daughter's slippers. At her bedside. The perfect
definition of starting one's day on the wrong foot. Or getting out of
bed on the wrong side. Depends.

-- Mister Gardener

Mr. Gardener March 22nd 06 05:03 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:13:24 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Sexton) wrote:

In article ,
Pete Becker wrote:
Richard Sexton wrote:

Of course if this is just to fish out dead things wouldn't it be easier to
just put the thing 8" from the wall or something so it's possible to reach behind?


That's so twentieth century.


More like eighteenth century. I figure it's what the Shakers would do.


The Shakers would have enough foresight and common sense to build a
drawer or cabinet doors at the bottom of the stand so that they could
reach back under by removing the drawer or opening the doors. And they
would have added only the minimum trim required to make it functional
yet discrete. And they would sing and jump for joy. And it would be
good and right and proper.

-- Mister Gardener

Koi-Lo March 22nd 06 08:58 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...
.............. but now, pulling as hard as you had to
overcome stiction it now accelerates far too quickly, and your
neighbor walks in the front door, sees this rolling thunder of water
and fish chugging toward her, steps aside and out the door rolls
the monster tank, into the road, down the hill, while your pizza and
beer filled helpers run willy nilly after it like a scene from The
Three Stooges . . . .

==========================
ROFLMAO!!!!! LOL..... :-D How do you think this stuff up? LOL!!!

When I move anything larger than a 20g tank I just go ahead and remove all
the water, gravel and plants. It gets so stirred up and disgusting when
being moved I would rather just redo the tank then try and move it by
draining it down. Then I have a nice clean tank to start all over with.

Of course a filter has been seeding on another tank ready to be moved to the
newly moved, newly cleaned tank.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
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Flash Wilson March 23rd 06 06:47 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:23:13 GMT, Suzie-Q wrote:
I often find live (or dead) creatures
in my house. I'd like to be able to get behind the fishtank if I
smell some rotting corpse in my house and it's coming from behind
the fishtank/stand!


I have the same issue - rats and mice hiding behind the fish
cabinet and even inside it using the holes I cut for the pipes.
And filter floss makes a lovely nest.

The solution was to block every gap - around the hoses but also
along the edge between cabinet and wall - with steel wool.
Critters don't like getting past that.

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Suzie-Q March 24th 06 08:34 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
In article ,
Mr. Gardener wrote:

- On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:23:13 GMT, Suzie-Q
- wrote:
-
- What do you think about putting a bunch of those "super sliders" on
- the bottom of the stand? You know - those [teflon] things that are
- supposed to make furniture effortless to move. There are some that are
- only about an inch wide, and some that are larger, of course.
-
- You see, I have cats that like to find snakes and things out in the
- backyard, then bring them in the house (alive) and then lose them
- behind a piece of furniture. I often find live (or dead) creatures
- in my house. I'd like to be able to get behind the fishtank if I
- smell some rotting corpse in my house and it's coming from behind
- the fishtank/stand!
-
- The super sliders sound a lot safer.
-
- ((Anyone who says, "Get rid of the cats," will be considered an
- idiot and ignored. ;-) ))
-
- I wasn't going to say that. I was simply going to suggest that you
- feed the cats. We've tried it at our house and it works wonders.
-
- -- Mister Gardener

Cats don't eat the snakes/mice/toads/lizards/geckos/etc. that they bring
home. They just play with them until they die behind the fishtank and stink
up the house.
--
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~~~~~~
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today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson

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Suzie-Q March 24th 06 08:36 PM

Wheels on the aquarium stand?
 
In article ,
Mr. Gardener wrote:

- On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:13:24 +0000 (UTC),
- (Richard Sexton) wrote:
-
- In article ,
- Pete Becker wrote:
- Richard Sexton wrote:
-
- Of course if this is just to fish out dead things wouldn't it be easier
- to
- just put the thing 8" from the wall or something so it's possible to
- reach behind?
-
-
- That's so twentieth century.
-
- More like eighteenth century. I figure it's what the Shakers would do.
-
- The Shakers would have enough foresight and common sense to build a
- drawer or cabinet doors at the bottom of the stand so that they could
- reach back under by removing the drawer or opening the doors. And they
- would have added only the minimum trim required to make it functional
- yet discrete. And they would sing and jump for joy. And it would be
- good and right and proper.
-
- -- Mister Gardener

And all would be well with the universe.

((Not a bad idea, btw.))
--
8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~
"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson

http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/
http://www.intergnat.com/pussygames/


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