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moving pl*co??
I was thinking about moving my Pl*co...at some point in the future he will
go to the 120g but not yet, he is in a 39 high right now w/ gourami's 1 adult 3 spotted, and 2 baby three spotted....I was thinking about moving him to my female betta tank because it is 40 long instead of high..but I don't know if they would get along or not.. he does still have plenty of room where he is at, but if the environment would make no difference I would rather put him in the betta tank because there are more places for him to hang out, a bit more algae....does anyone know or has anyone ever kept a pl*co with female betta's Nik |
moving pl*co??
"Nikki" wrote in message . .. .....does anyone know or has anyone ever kept a pl*co with female betta's =========================== I don't recall keeping them with female bettas, but do know none I ever had bothered or ate smaller or slower fish. I never saw any try and rasp another fish's slime coat either. -- Koi-Lo.... My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Aquarium FAQ are at: http://faq.thekrib.com/ ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* ------------- Get FREE newsgroup access from http://www.cheap56k.com |
moving pl*co??
On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:55:32 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote: I was thinking about moving my Pl*co...at some point in the future he will go to the 120g but not yet, he is in a 39 high right now w/ gourami's 1 adult 3 spotted, and 2 baby three spotted....I was thinking about moving him to my female betta tank because it is 40 long instead of high..but I don't know if they would get along or not.. he does still have plenty of room where he is at, but if the environment would make no difference I would rather put him in the betta tank because there are more places for him to hang out, a bit more algae....does anyone know or has anyone ever kept a pl*co with female betta's Nik If you are concerned about the pl*co mating with one of your female bettas, I can pretty much assure you that you needn't worry about that. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me |
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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:55:32 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: If you are concerned about the pl*co mating with one of your female bettas, I can pretty much assure you that you needn't worry about that. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me mating?? no worried about the females bothering him, he seems to not like fish around him all to much, the gourami's stay out of his way as much as they can, I don't think my female betta's will as they are very nebby and have to check everything out that is new in the tank, I had to take the snail out because they kept knocking it over by hitting in to it while it was climbing over the rocks.. Nik |
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:55:32 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: I was thinking about moving my Pl*co...at some point in the future he will go to the 120g but not yet, he is in a 39 high right now w/ gourami's 1 adult 3 spotted, and 2 baby three spotted....I was thinking about moving him to my female betta tank because it is 40 long instead of high..but I don't know if they would get along or not.. he does still have plenty of room where he is at, but if the environment would make no difference I would rather put him in the betta tank because there are more places for him to hang out, a bit more algae....does anyone know or has anyone ever kept a pl*co with female betta's Nik If you are concerned about the pl*co mating with one of your female bettas, I can pretty much assure you that you needn't worry about that. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me I would think that the major concern, if my Plecs are anything to go by, is finding him, detaching him from his home and moving him without any undue stress (probably mainly to you rather than him - lol). If he is happy where he is and won't outgrow the tank - you don't say what type of Plec he is....I would go and buy another plec for your 120gall tank....less hassle for all involved.... Gill |
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Could somebody catch me up on the shorthand used these days...I'm behind the swing of things. For example: IMHO...in my humble opinion IMO......in my opinion Pl*co....??Pleco?? for plecaustimus?? HTH??? IIRC Thanks abunch.. PS...Going into 2nd day of the Grand Accident Experiment...all tankmate doing well thus far....-ED |
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 23:36:37 GMT, "-ED" wrote:
Could somebody catch me up on the shorthand used these days...I'm behind the swing of things. For example: IMHO...in my humble opinion IMO......in my opinion Pl*co....??Pleco?? for plecaustimus?? HTH??? hope this helps IIRC If I recall correctly Thanks abunch.. TLA= three letter acronym PS...Going into 2nd day of the Grand Accident Experiment...all tankmate doing well thus far....-ED |
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 00:10:29 +0100, Gill Passman
wrote: Mister Gardener wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:55:32 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: I was thinking about moving my Pl*co...at some point in the future he will go to the 120g but not yet, he is in a 39 high right now w/ gourami's 1 adult 3 spotted, and 2 baby three spotted....I was thinking about moving him to my female betta tank because it is 40 long instead of high..but I don't know if they would get along or not.. he does still have plenty of room where he is at, but if the environment would make no difference I would rather put him in the betta tank because there are more places for him to hang out, a bit more algae....does anyone know or has anyone ever kept a pl*co with female betta's Nik If you are concerned about the pl*co mating with one of your female bettas, I can pretty much assure you that you needn't worry about that. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me I would think that the major concern, if my Plecs are anything to go by, is finding him, detaching him from his home and moving him without any undue stress (probably mainly to you rather than him - lol). If he is happy where he is and won't outgrow the tank - you don't say what type of Plec he is....I would go and buy another plec for your 120gall tank....less hassle for all involved.... Gill I have a cave for mine, pick up the cave and the pleco comes with it. Or did, anyway, until I put him in the pond. |
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Could somebody catch me up on the shorthand used these days...I'm behind the swing of things. For example: IMHO...in my humble opinion IMO......in my opinion Pl*co....??Pleco?? for plecaustimus?? HTH??? IIRC Thanks abunch.. PS...Going into 2nd day of the Grand Accident Experiment...all tankmate doing well thus far....-ED Try this. http://www.aquariumadvice.com/acronym.php -- Put the word aquaria in the subject to email me. Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com |
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-ED wrote:
Could somebody catch me up on the shorthand used these days...I'm behind the swing of things. For example: IMHO...in my humble opinion IMO......in my opinion Pl*co....??Pleco?? for plecaustimus?? HTH??? IIRC Thanks abunch.. PS...Going into 2nd day of the Grand Accident Experiment...all tankmate doing well thus far....-ED As for pl*co, it's a very old net curse. Many, many years ago (back when this newsgroup was still rec.aquaria) people noticed that if they wrote too much about their plecos, the fish died shortly thereafter. Soon, a smart-alec started typing pl*co in the hopes that he would be able to discuss his fish without it keeling over. Since we all love our plecos, the idea caught and has been a charming quirk of rec.aquaria ever since. Don't talk about it too much, or you'll bring Mr. Gard*n*r around with his asterisk gun and we'll all be covered in them. -- Put the word aquaria in the subject to email me. Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com |
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"Gill Passman" wrote in message ... I would think that the major concern, if my Plecs are anything to go by, is finding him, detaching him from his home and moving him without any undue stress (probably mainly to you rather than him - lol). If he is happy where he is and won't outgrow the tank - you don't say what type of Plec he is....I would go and buy another plec for your 120gall tank....less hassle for all involved.... Gill Well someday he will *have* to go to the 120g only because he is a common pl*co and I have seen them out grow 55g, and I have him in a 39h right now, I got him when I noticed algae on the rocks and he fixed that up pretty quick, one of the reasons I thought about moving him to my female betta tank right now is there are a lot of caves, rocks and plants...places for him to hide, which I thought he would like, but maybe I should leave him in the gourami tank till he outgrows it then just put him in the 120g, I really did not think about it stressing him but it might thanks gill Nik |
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Nikki, what's the dimensions of your 120 gal, please ? -ED
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 00:14:49 GMT, Altum
wrote: -ED wrote: Could somebody catch me up on the shorthand used these days...I'm behind the swing of things. For example: IMHO...in my humble opinion IMO......in my opinion Pl*co....??Pleco?? for plecaustimus?? HTH??? IIRC Thanks abunch.. PS...Going into 2nd day of the Grand Accident Experiment...all tankmate doing well thus far....-ED Try this. http://www.aquariumadvice.com/acronym.php Ed - when you see a * in a word, it stands as a warning / reminder that spelling out the complete word could bring great misfortune down upon yourself and the fish that is asterisked. You will see this most commonly in pl*co. Be forewarned. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me |
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 00:19:01 GMT, Altum
wrote: -ED wrote: Could somebody catch me up on the shorthand used these days...I'm behind the swing of things. For example: IMHO...in my humble opinion IMO......in my opinion Pl*co....??Pleco?? for plecaustimus?? HTH??? IIRC Thanks abunch.. PS...Going into 2nd day of the Grand Accident Experiment...all tankmate doing well thus far....-ED As for pl*co, it's a very old net curse. Many, many years ago (back when this newsgroup was still rec.aquaria) people noticed that if they wrote too much about their plecos, the fish died shortly thereafter. Soon, a smart-alec started typing pl*co in the hopes that he would be able to discuss his fish without it keeling over. Since we all love our plecos, the idea caught and has been a charming quirk of rec.aquaria ever since. Don't talk about it too much, or you'll bring Mr. Gard*n*r around with his asterisk gun and we'll all be covered in them. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me |
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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message ... On Thu, 11 May 2006 00:14:49 GMT, Altum wrote: -ED wrote: Could somebody catch me up on the shorthand used these days...I'm behind the swing of things. For example: IMHO...in my humble opinion IMO......in my opinion Pl*co....??Pleco?? for plecaustimus?? HTH??? IIRC Thanks abunch.. PS...Going into 2nd day of the Grand Accident Experiment...all tankmate doing well thus far....-ED Try this. http://www.aquariumadvice.com/acronym.php Ed - when you see a * in a word, it stands as a warning / reminder that spelling out the complete word could bring great misfortune down upon yourself and the fish that is asterisked. You will see this most commonly in pl*co. Be forewarned. Thanks again..on the lighter side, I was close on IMHO..honest opinion...humble opinion. Top of the Morning to ya! |
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"-ED" wrote in message ... Nikki, what's the dimensions of your 120 gal, please ? -ED 72" long 21" high 19" front to back You made me scare my husband, all he seen was me measuring it.... "we are not moving it...no way not again" I told him no someone wants to know the size, he said oh ok. Its a nice tank, we are still back and forth about what shall go into it...he wants a cichlid tank, and I want to put angels in it, but we are going to compromise, I will see if there are any cichlids that can go with angels, or we will buy another tank for the angels....we have decided we are going to make it a planted tank so I been spending a lot of time reading about planting tanks, it has glass tops which is nice, however I got to be careful I have almost broke the top pieces a few times now. it has lights that go on top of the glass. He is making a thing so that you can put a light behind it also, they will be attached to the oak stand. Nik |
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"Nikki" wrote in message ... it has lights that go on top of the glass. He is making a thing so that you can put a light behind it also, they will be attached to the oak stand. ================== Check the wattage of the lights that came with the tank. Most of the time (in my experience) they're not near bright enough to grow healthy plants. -- Koi-Lo.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 08:22:34 -0500, Nikki
wrote: "-ED" wrote in message ... Nikki, what's the dimensions of your 120 gal, please ? -ED 72" long 21" high 19" front to back You made me scare my husband, all he seen was me measuring it.... "we are not moving it...no way not again" I told him no someone wants to know the size, he said oh ok. Its a nice tank, we are still back and forth about what shall go into it...he wants a cichlid tank, and I want to put angels in it, but we are going to compromise, I will see if there are any cichlids that can go with angels, or we will buy another tank for the angels....we have decided we are going to make it a planted tank so I been spending a lot of time reading about planting tanks, it has glass tops which is nice, however I got to be careful I have almost broke the top pieces a few times now. it has lights that go on top of the glass. He is making a thing so that you can put a light behind it also, they will be attached to the oak stand. Nik I worked with lighting effects all the time in the past.. With trial and error placements, you can create extremely dramatic effects that go far beyond tranquil. Of course, your live plants will not appreciate it, but for silk and plastic decor, lighting is limited by your imagination and creativity. My tank lids have the recess for the flourescent hoods. I run tin foil the length of these recesses and scrape littles holes of random patterning for the light to 'Beam' through. The end result portrays a soft light beaming through tree tops, and with the rippling water surface, you get a light dance on your decor. And you can scrape a hole so light would fall on a particular plant or area of pride in your 'scaping. It's a matter of taste and option. But, I won't have an algae problem- you can count on it. The bright lights just glaring down on the tank reminds me of a lab tank or a retailer's tank. If you don't use a mural backing, you can have loads of fun bending and angling light and come up with countless effects that are forever cool. Same effects as a roaring fireplace in the wintertime. I don't use a back cover, and I have the perimeter lights running around the living room(about 3 feet from the floor). It throws a soft glow with the light source starting down and fading towards the top...kinda like the horizon on a metropolitan...take care. -- Thanks-ED |
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 09:22:34 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote: "-ED" wrote in message ... Nikki, what's the dimensions of your 120 gal, please ? -ED 72" long 21" high 19" front to back You made me scare my husband, all he seen was me measuring it.... "we are not moving it...no way not again" I told him no someone wants to know the size, he said oh ok. Its a nice tank, we are still back and forth about what shall go into it...he wants a cichlid tank, and I want to put angels in it, but we are going to compromise, I will see if there are any cichlids that can go with angels, or we will buy another tank for the angels....we have decided we are going to make it a planted tank so I been spending a lot of time reading about planting tanks, it has glass tops which is nice, however I got to be careful I have almost broke the top pieces a few times now. it has lights that go on top of the glass. He is making a thing so that you can put a light behind it also, they will be attached to the oak stand. Nik If you're thinking cichlids as in African, forget trying to house them with the angels. Give the angels a home of their own, with some quiet little south americans - pencil fish in a school of a dozen are gorgeous. Apistogrammas as in Ramirez Dwarf Cichlid are also a perfect match - though many people are having trouble keeping them alive more than 6 months. Please continue making me jealous, the pain is wonderful. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me |
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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message ... On Thu, 11 May 2006 09:22:34 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: "-ED" wrote in message ... Nikki, what's the dimensions of your 120 gal, please ? -ED 72" long 21" high 19" front to back You made me scare my husband, all he seen was me measuring it.... "we are not moving it...no way not again" I told him no someone wants to know the size, he said oh ok. Its a nice tank, we are still back and forth about what shall go into it...he wants a cichlid tank, and I want to put angels in it, but we are going to compromise, I will see if there are any cichlids that can go with angels, or we will buy another tank for the angels....we have decided we are going to make it a planted tank so I been spending a lot of time reading about planting tanks, it has glass tops which is nice, however I got to be careful I have almost broke the top pieces a few times now. it has lights that go on top of the glass. He is making a thing so that you can put a light behind it also, they will be attached to the oak stand. Nik If you're thinking cichlids as in African, forget trying to house them with the angels. Give the angels a home of their own, with some quiet little south americans - pencil fish in a school of a dozen are gorgeous. Apistogrammas as in Ramirez Dwarf Cichlid are also a perfect match - though many people are having trouble keeping them alive more than 6 months. Please continue making me jealous, the pain is wonderful. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me No not African (at least i dont think), up at oddball he has cichlids I have never seen before in other pet stores, very neat ones, I will have to email him and ask some of the names, and I will let you know...maybe you can tell me what I am able to put with them. Like I was saying the only thing we agree on is... we want a planted tank...I want lots of plants.... so I been doing lots of reading. I really did not spend a lot of money up at oddball that day, I seen your comment...It was a mothers day present, I got fish, tank plants (we got a bunch of these tall plants for the angels) And he built me a place for my house plants, strip of lights, high watts, then this circle thing that goes below the plants and it releases this white mist, looks like fog ..any way has to do with humidity for the plants, seems to work well...plants are growing like crazy, so i also got more house plants for mothers day.. Nik Angels are doing well so far...them seem to have taken over the gourami tank (temp home) i was worried but they seem to be fine, one was chasing one of my baby gourami's, i think i will get some more if i do ok with these guys "fingers crossed". Quick question, i was at a petstore the other day, looking at tank platns, i seen devils ivy in a tank, i know house plants and i am 100% sure that is what it was, i came home and looked it up and read people do put it in their fish tanks and it lives, of course i also read other places that its a bad idea, which i tend to agree with, what do you guys think about that. I have stuck it in to root before but not with leaves under water only the bottom and root. Nik |
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:37 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote: "Mister Gardener" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 11 May 2006 09:22:34 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: "-ED" wrote in message ... Nikki, what's the dimensions of your 120 gal, please ? -ED 72" long 21" high 19" front to back You made me scare my husband, all he seen was me measuring it.... "we are not moving it...no way not again" I told him no someone wants to know the size, he said oh ok. Its a nice tank, we are still back and forth about what shall go into it...he wants a cichlid tank, and I want to put angels in it, but we are going to compromise, I will see if there are any cichlids that can go with angels, or we will buy another tank for the angels....we have decided we are going to make it a planted tank so I been spending a lot of time reading about planting tanks, it has glass tops which is nice, however I got to be careful I have almost broke the top pieces a few times now. it has lights that go on top of the glass. He is making a thing so that you can put a light behind it also, they will be attached to the oak stand. Nik If you're thinking cichlids as in African, forget trying to house them with the angels. Give the angels a home of their own, with some quiet little south americans - pencil fish in a school of a dozen are gorgeous. Apistogrammas as in Ramirez Dwarf Cichlid are also a perfect match - though many people are having trouble keeping them alive more than 6 months. Please continue making me jealous, the pain is wonderful. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me No not African (at least i dont think), up at oddball he has cichlids I have never seen before in other pet stores, very neat ones, I will have to email him and ask some of the names, and I will let you know...maybe you can tell me what I am able to put with them. Like I was saying the only thing we agree on is... we want a planted tank...I want lots of plants.... so I been doing lots of reading. I really did not spend a lot of money up at oddball that day, I seen your comment...It was a mothers day present, I got fish, tank plants (we got a bunch of these tall plants for the angels) And he built me a place for my house plants, strip of lights, high watts, then this circle thing that goes below the plants and it releases this white mist, looks like fog ..any way has to do with humidity for the plants, seems to work well...plants are growing like crazy, so i also got more house plants for mothers day.. Nik Angels are doing well so far...them seem to have taken over the gourami tank (temp home) i was worried but they seem to be fine, one was chasing one of my baby gourami's, i think i will get some more if i do ok with these guys "fingers crossed". Quick question, i was at a petstore the other day, looking at tank platns, i seen devils ivy in a tank, i know house plants and i am 100% sure that is what it was, i came home and looked it up and read people do put it in their fish tanks and it lives, of course i also read other places that its a bad idea, which i tend to agree with, what do you guys think about that. I have stuck it in to root before but not with leaves under water only the bottom and root. Nik Not much help here. I doubt that it will hurt your fish, but I also doubt that it will live very long. Philodendron is the only house plant I know of that people have been keeping growing next to aquariums with the leaves in the water. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me |
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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message ... On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:37 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: Not much help here. I doubt that it will hurt your fish, but I also doubt that it will live very long. Philodendron is the only house plant I know of that people have been keeping growing next to aquariums with the leaves in the water. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me Yes I would not do it myself (keep the entire plant underwater) but I am sure it was devils ivy I seen in that tank at the store, which is why I looked it up....I do however stick clippings in my fishtank water because they root a lot quicker. I have been watering some of my plants with tank water only and others using miracle grow to see which do better, in the end I will more then likely do both but I am wondering. Nik |
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"Nikki" wrote in message . .. I have been watering some of my plants with tank water only and others using miracle grow to see which do better, in the end I will more then likely do both but I am wondering. =========================== I add the Miracle Grow or Peter's to the used fish water at 1/2 or less of the recommended dose. My plants are thriving as can be seen on my website. -- Koi-Lo.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 20:11:40 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote: "Mister Gardener" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:37 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: Not much help here. I doubt that it will hurt your fish, but I also doubt that it will live very long. Philodendron is the only house plant I know of that people have been keeping growing next to aquariums with the leaves in the water. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me Yes I would not do it myself (keep the entire plant underwater) but I am sure it was devils ivy I seen in that tank at the store, which is why I looked it up....I do however stick clippings in my fishtank water because they root a lot quicker. I have been watering some of my plants with tank water only and others using miracle grow to see which do better, in the end I will more then likely do both but I am wondering. Nik The miracle grow will give the fastest results, but keep in mind how many barrels of precious petroleum it required to manufacture that little can of instant grow. I've forgotten the numbers, but chemical fertilizers require a lot of oil and natural gas to produce. By using tank water you are saving oil and helping someone's car to run another mile. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me |
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On Fri, 12 May 2006 06:11:34 -0500, Mister Gardener
wrote: On Thu, 11 May 2006 20:11:40 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: "Mister Gardener" wrote in message ... On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:37 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: Not much help here. I doubt that it will hurt your fish, but I also doubt that it will live very long. Philodendron is the only house plant I know of that people have been keeping growing next to aquariums with the leaves in the water. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me Yes I would not do it myself (keep the entire plant underwater) but Iam sure it was devils ivy I seen in that tank at the store, which is whyI looked it up....I do however stick clippings in my fishtank water because they root a lot quicker. I have been watering some of my plants with tank water only and others using miracle grow to see which do better, in the end I will more then likely do both but I am wondering. Nik The miracle grow will give the fastest results, but keep in mind how many barrels of precious petroleum it required to manufacture that little can of instant grow. I've forgotten the numbers, but chemical fertilizers require a lot of oil and natural gas to produce. By using tank water you are saving oil and helping someone's car to run another mile. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me Its good to remind us of the bigger picture. We get so consumed in our daily needs(wants) that we lose sight of the costs of our vanities. Top of the Morning to Ya' -- Thanks-ED |
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Its good to remind us of the bigger picture. We get so consumed in our daily needs(wants) that we lose sight of the costs of our vanities. Top of the Morning to Ya' You are so right here....today I woke up to no running water - how easily we come to take having water provided straight into our homes on tap....My whole day had been planned around having this basic commodity - garden, water changes on the tanks, washing etc. etc. and I couldn't even get a drink out of the tap - Luckily for me it was temporary (I think it is back on now at very low pressure) but it did make me think how lucky we are and how much we come to take such things for granted.... To get back on topic - all of the water from my water changes goes on the terrestial plants - since doing this I've not found any need to use additional ferts...(although I do use them in the tanks) Gill |
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"Gill Passman" wrote in message ... -ED wrote: Its good to remind us of the bigger picture. We get so consumed in our daily needs(wants) that we lose sight of the costs of our vanities. Top of the Morning to Ya' You are so right here....today I woke up to no running water - how easily we come to take having water provided straight into our homes on tap....My whole day had been planned around having this basic commodity - garden, water changes on the tanks, washing etc. etc. and I couldn't even get a drink out of the tap - Luckily for me it was temporary (I think it is back on now at very low pressure) but it did make me think how lucky we are and how much we come to take such things for granted.... To get back on topic - all of the water from my water changes goes on the terrestial plants - since doing this I've not found any need to use additional ferts...(although I do use them in the tanks) Gill I have a couple plants that if I don't use miracle grow in they don't do well, however most of the others do. I have a purple "velvet" passion who is hanging on my porch and hangs at least 4 foot down to the ground, I should clip it but its so pretty....I do much better with house plants rather then fish tank plants, hope i can get there with the 120g, some time in the future Nik |
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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message ... The miracle grow will give the fastest results, but keep in mind how many barrels of precious petroleum it required to manufacture that little can of instant grow. I've forgotten the numbers, but chemical fertilizers require a lot of oil and natural gas to produce. By using tank water you are saving oil and helping someone's car to run another mile. ======================== But if there are plants in your tanks I would think they already removed most of the nutrients house plants need. That's why I add some to the old tank water I use on my houseplants. -- Koi-Lo.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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"Gill Passman" wrote in message ... You are so right here....today I woke up to no running water - how easily we come to take having water provided straight into our homes on tap....My whole day had been planned around having this basic commodity - garden, water changes on the tanks, washing etc. etc. and I couldn't even get a drink out of the tap ........... ==================================== I don't know what you get milk or distilled water in there in the UK, but we get it in plastic 1g containers. I rinse them and save at least 10g of water for when we lose ours. Since they ran all new pipes a few years ago it's not happening anywhere near as often. -- Koi-Lo.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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"Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... "Mister Gardener" wrote in message ... The miracle grow will give the fastest results, but keep in mind how many barrels of precious petroleum it required to manufacture that little can of instant grow. I've forgotten the numbers, but chemical fertilizers require a lot of oil and natural gas to produce. By using tank water you are saving oil and helping someone's car to run another mile. ======================== But if there are plants in your tanks I would think they already removed most of the nutrients house plants need. That's why I add some to the old tank water I use on my houseplants. -- Koi-Lo.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* for some odd reason in the past two months i wake up with brown water at least a couple times a week, dont last long but still not want you want to wake up to. Nik |
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hmmmm, sounds like your having a phantom Carol aka koi lo visit the
tanks at night.......to take a bath On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:39:22 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... "Mister Gardener" wrote in message ... The miracle grow will give the fastest results, but keep in mind how many barrels of precious petroleum it required to manufacture that little can of instant grow. I've forgotten the numbers, but chemical fertilizers require a lot of oil and natural gas to produce. By using tank water you are saving oil and helping someone's car to run another mile. ======================== But if there are plants in your tanks I would think they already removed most of the nutrients house plants need. That's why I add some to the old tank water I use on my houseplants. -- Koi-Lo.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* for some odd reason in the past two months i wake up with brown water at least a couple times a week, dont last long but still not want you want to wake up to. Nik ============================================== Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked! "The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still only worth $1..... ~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~ }(((((o |
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"Nikki" wrote in message ... "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... But if there are plants in your tanks I would think they already removed most of the nutrients house plants need. That's why I add some to the old tank water I use on my houseplants. ======================================== for some odd reason in the past two months i wake up with brown water at least a couple times a week, Do you know what the color is from? Do you have some new decoration that may be leeching color? dont last long but still not want you want to wake up to. I would think not. :-( The water in my tanks gets a slight yellow cast around water-change time. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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"Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... *Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups. "Nikki" wrote in message ... for some odd reason in the past two months i wake up with brown water at least a couple times a week, Do you know what the color is from? Do you have some new decoration that may be leeching color? dont last long but still not want you want to wake up to. I would think not. :-( The water in my tanks gets a slight yellow cast around water-change time. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* Not in the tank ...in my water from the house...sorry i was following up what gill said about waking up with no water, i was just saying boy i would much rather have none then brown, i wake up at 4am to get the kids to school, making tea in the morning then finding out the water is brown...err can make you mad Nik |
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"Nikki" wrote in message ... "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... I would think not. :-( The water in my tanks gets a slight yellow cast around water-change time. ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* Not in the tank ...in my water from the house...sorry i was following up what gill said about waking up with no water, i was just saying boy i would much rather have none then brown, i wake up at 4am to get the kids to school, making tea in the morning then finding out the water is brown...err can make you mad ================= What does the your water company say is causing it? That doesn't sound too healthy. Ugh! :þ -- Koi-Lo.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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On Fri, 12 May 2006 13:25:46 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote: "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... *Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups. "Nikki" wrote in message ... for some odd reason in the past two months i wake up with brown water at least a couple times a week, Do you know what the color is from? Do you have some new decoration that may be leeching color? dont last long but still not want you want to wake up to. I would think not. :-( The water in my tanks gets a slight yellow cast around water-change time. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* Not in the tank ...in my water from the house...sorry i was following up what gill said about waking up with no water, i was just saying boy i would much rather have none then brown, i wake up at 4am to get the kids to school, making tea in the morning then finding out the water is brown...err can make you mad Nik Iron in the water. Are you on a well, or do you have a water company providing your water. If a company, call them. It may be their problem, or you might have a plumbing problem in the house. Iron isn't harmful, just unpleasant, and water companies try to prevent it, at least mine does. They may be doing some work on their system somewhere and causing the problem. |
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"Charles" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 May 2006 13:25:46 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... *Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups. "Nikki" wrote in message ... for some odd reason in the past two months i wake up with brown water at least a couple times a week, Do you know what the color is from? Do you have some new decoration that may be leeching color? dont last long but still not want you want to wake up to. I would think not. :-( The water in my tanks gets a slight yellow cast around water-change time. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* Not in the tank ...in my water from the house...sorry i was following up what gill said about waking up with no water, i was just saying boy i would much rather have none then brown, i wake up at 4am to get the kids to school, making tea in the morning then finding out the water is brown...err can make you mad Nik Iron in the water. Are you on a well, or do you have a water company providing your water. If a company, call them. It may be their problem, or you might have a plumbing problem in the house. Iron isn't harmful, just unpleasant, and water companies try to prevent it, at least mine does. They may be doing some work on their system somewhere and causing the problem. Its everyone on the block....yeah its not to nice. They usualy say its someone working in the area, its only the cold water being the hot water tank is full, but if you get a shower and the tank refills with brown water you have to run the water out, makes for a high wate bill. Last year we were filling the pool, and it happend, we had to empty the entire pool and clean it and refill it now that made me very mad!! Nik |
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On Fri, 12 May 2006 15:20:06 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote: "Charles" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 12 May 2006 13:25:46 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... *Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups. "Nikki" wrote in message ... for some odd reason in the past two months i wake up with brown water at least a couple times a week, Do you know what the color is from? Do you have some new decoration that may be leeching color? dont last long but still not want you want to wake up to. I would think not. :-( The water in my tanks gets a slight yellow cast around water-change time. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* Not in the tank ...in my water from the house...sorry i was following up what gill said about waking up with no water, i was just saying boy i would much rather have none then brown, i wake up at 4am to get the kids to school, making tea in the morning then finding out the water is brown...err can make you mad Nik Iron in the water. Are you on a well, or do you have a water company providing your water. If a company, call them. It may be their problem, or you might have a plumbing problem in the house. Iron isn't harmful, just unpleasant, and water companies try to prevent it, at least mine does. They may be doing some work on their system somewhere and causing the problem. Its everyone on the block....yeah its not to nice. They usualy say its someone working in the area, its only the cold water being the hot water tank is full, but if you get a shower and the tank refills with brown water you have to run the water out, makes for a high wate bill. Last year we were filling the pool, and it happend, we had to empty the entire pool and clean it and refill it now that made me very mad!! Nik Our tap water turns brown when the water company is doing regular maintenance "flushing" of the system. You usually see them opening hydrants and flooding streets while they're doing it. It's not just iron in that water. Numerous residents began petitioning the water company as well as the town council that contracted with the water company - demanding reimbursement for all the clothes that were ruined when washed in the brown stuff. The water company finally paid. And then began posting in the local paper and on community TV what dates the water flushing would be done and telling people to check the water before washing clothes in it. That sort of put an end to the claims for replacement clothing. It happens about 4 times a year. -- Mister Gardener -- Pull the WEED to email me |
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On Fri, 12 May 2006 15:20:06 -0400, "Nikki"
wrote: "Charles" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 12 May 2006 13:25:46 -0400, "Nikki" wrote: "Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... *Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups. "Nikki" wrote in message ... for some odd reason in the past two months i wake up with brown water at least a couple times a week, Do you know what the color is from? Do you have some new decoration that may be leeching color? dont last long but still not want you want to wake up to. I would think not. :-( The water in my tanks gets a slight yellow cast around water-change time. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* Not in the tank ...in my water from the house...sorry i was following up what gill said about waking up with no water, i was just saying boy i would much rather have none then brown, i wake up at 4am to get the kids to school, making tea in the morning then finding out the water is brown...err can make you mad Nik Iron in the water. Are you on a well, or do you have a water company providing your water. If a company, call them. It may be their problem, or you might have a plumbing problem in the house. Iron isn't harmful, just unpleasant, and water companies try to prevent it, at least mine does. They may be doing some work on their system somewhere and causing the problem. Its everyone on the block....yeah its not to nice. They usualy say its someone working in the area, its only the cold water being the hot water tank is full, but if you get a shower and the tank refills with brown water you have to run the water out, makes for a high wate bill. Last year we were filling the pool, and it happend, we had to empty the entire pool and clean it and refill it now that made me very mad!! Nik Complain to the water company, get the neighbors to do it as well, and to the local government authorities. You will probably be able to get them to do something about it, but they won't want to, it costs them time and money. It could also be manganese rather than iron. Same problems, it's ugly but not unhealthful. |
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Gill Passman wrote:
You are so right here....today I woke up to no running water - how easily we come to take having water provided straight into our homes on tap....My whole day had been planned around having this basic commodity - garden, water changes on the tanks, washing etc. etc. and I couldn't even get a drink out of the tap I guess I'm lucky as far as references. I remember a visit to an aunt and uncle in Ohio coal country back around 1950. They were very proud that they had finally gotten indoor plumbing - a pump on the kitchen counter next to the sink! The toilet facilities were still the familiar old outhouse. At least it was summer. I have a painting of a snow covered outhouse in the master bath just to remind us what it could be like in winter:-). And I remember waking up to a cold house and having to refire the stove or coal furnace. In fact, when I first got married, we got a deal on our apartment on the condition I would do that in the morning - the landlady was getting too old to climb the stairs. Now I complain if the air conditioning goes out :-). -- It's turtles, all the way down |
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