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Am new to bettas and was wondering how big of a tank is needed for 1 betta?? I would like to get 2 and was wondering if I could have 2 in one tank and if so how big a tank?? TIA |
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kraut wrote:
Am new to bettas and was wondering how big of a tank is needed for 1 betta?? The smallest tank you should have is 5 gallons, with proper filtration. I would like to get 2 and was wondering if I could have 2 in one tank and if so how big a tank?? Unless it's a male and a female, you cannot keep them in the same tank. They will fight until one of them is dead. -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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Betas shouldn't be kept in a tank together unless there is a divider. If you decide to get the divider, i would get a male and female or two females, because males could become over stressed. This is a link showing this kind of tank, and the other is just standard beta tanks http://www.petsmart.com/global/produ...N=2037042&Ne=2 http://www.petsmart.com/global/searc...N=2037042&Ne=2 |
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"kraut" wrote in message ... Am new to bettas and was wondering how big of a tank is needed for 1 betta?? I would like to get 2 and was wondering if I could have 2 in one tank and if so how big a tank?? I have kept Bettas in 7 Litre tanks (2 Gal) for the last 4 years. No filter or heater (mild climate in Qld Australia) Water needs to be treated and 70% - 80% changed weekly, to help keep them healthy. Each male needs to be in its own tank, although 2-3 females may be OK together once they sort out who is in charge :-) Some plastic plants in the tank help them rest near the surface as well. Browse through these : http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/an...s2/p/betta.htm http://betta.allbio.org/ http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art17376.asp http://aquamaniacs.net/forum/portal.php |
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:04:07 -0500, Victor Martinez
wrote: kraut wrote: Am new to bettas and was wondering how big of a tank is needed for 1 betta?? The smallest tank you should have is 5 gallons, with proper filtration. I have seen single male Betas in small bowls, no filtration. I would like to get 2 and was wondering if I could have 2 in one tank and if so how big a tank?? Unless it's a male and a female, you cannot keep them in the same tank. They will fight until one of them is dead. You can put them in the same tank if you put a clear divider between. They will put on beautiful displays. Betas are sometimes put singularly into community tanks. It has been a long times since I tried. As I recall they sometimes would nip fins. dick |
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"Victor Martinez" wrote in message ... Unless it's a male and a female, you cannot keep them in the same tank. They will fight until one of them is dead. ========================= This is not a good idea. I know this from experience. Unless the female is ready to breed the male may constantly attack and harass her until she dies - that is unless the tank is quite large and she can avoid him. Bettas do very well in 1g tanks or jars. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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Dick wrote: I have seen single male Betas in small bowls, no filtration. Betas are sometimes put singularly into community tanks. It has been a long times since I tried. As I recall they sometimes would nip fins. dick FYI....that would be Betta. (it's pornounced "bet-uh", not "bait-uh" and is the usual reason for the misspelling) Bettas can only survive in a small, unheated and unfiltered bowl. However, they will thrive in a heated tank. 1g is the absolute minimum tank they should be housed in. Keeping them in community tanks is often fine, and I do recommend it. However, as with every single Betta, each has a different personality and that needs to be considered. Tank mates are usually the ones doing the nipping and the Betta ends of shredded if put in with the wrong type. Fish that are very small, such as live bearer fry or Neons when very tiny (fully grown Neons are usually fine) make for good snacks. Bettas are carnivores, so anything it can fit into it's mouth will be. In regard to housing a male in with females, again that depends on tank size, as well as each individual personality of each fish. Sex plays no part in aggression here. A female can shred up a male just as good, so only experienced Betta keepers should house females and a male in one tank. These fish are aware of what goes on outside their tank, so they quickly become tame to their owners. Stay away from freeze dried foods, as they will cause constipation. They need a good staple food and another "meat' type food, such as frozen bloodworms or brine shrimp. They should be fed twice a day, in small amounts. Their water should be kept clean and heated to 78-80*f. |
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On 7/20/2006 6:17 PM, Tynk wrote: Dick wrote: I have seen single male Betas in small bowls, no filtration. Betas are sometimes put singularly into community tanks. It has been a long times since I tried. As I recall they sometimes would nip fins. dick FYI....that would be Betta. (it's pornounced "bet-uh", not "bait-uh" and is the usual reason for the misspelling) Bettas can only survive in a small, unheated and unfiltered bowl. However, they will thrive in a heated tank. 1g is the absolute minimum tank they should be housed in. Keeping them in community tanks is often fine, and I do recommend it. However, as with every single Betta, each has a different personality and that needs to be considered. Tank mates are usually the ones doing the nipping and the Betta ends of shredded if put in with the wrong type. Fish that are very small, such as live bearer fry or Neons when very tiny (fully grown Neons are usually fine) make for good snacks. Bettas are carnivores, so anything it can fit into it's mouth will be. In regard to housing a male in with females, again that depends on tank size, as well as each individual personality of each fish. Sex plays no part in aggression here. A female can shred up a male just as good, so only experienced Betta keepers should house females and a male in one tank. These fish are aware of what goes on outside their tank, so they quickly become tame to their owners. Stay away from freeze dried foods, as they will cause constipation. They need a good staple food and another "meat' type food, such as frozen bloodworms or brine shrimp. They should be fed twice a day, in small amounts. Their water should be kept clean and heated to 78-80*f. Makes me wonder who's recycling messages. Could our favourite fag boi Roy Hauer be back from the methadone clinic? |
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On 7/20/2006 10:31 AM, Köi-Lö wrote:
"Victor Martinez" wrote in message ... Unless it's a male and a female, you cannot keep them in the same tank. They will fight until one of them is dead. ========================= This is not a good idea. I know this from experience. Unless the female is ready to breed the male may constantly attack and harass her until she dies - that is unless the tank is quite large and she can avoid him. Bettas do very well in 1g tanks or jars. I managed to learn in two months what it took you ten years. You can fold your hand any time now. Now go stand in the corner of the bathroom and pretend to be the roll of toilet paper. |
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Dick wrote:
I have seen single male Betas in small bowls, no filtration. That doesn't mean it's the best for the fish. -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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[-=LÈGIÖN=-] wrote: This message has been recycled. HMMmmm..... On 7/20/2006 6:17 PM, Tynk wrote: Dick wrote: I have seen single male Betas in small bowls, no filtration. Betas are sometimes put singularly into community tanks. It has been a long times since I tried. As I recall they sometimes would nip fins. dick FYI....that would be Betta. (it's pornounced "bet-uh", not "bait-uh" and is the usual reason for the misspelling) Bettas can only survive in a small, unheated and unfiltered bowl. However, they will thrive in a heated tank. 1g is the absolute minimum tank they should be housed in. Keeping them in community tanks is often fine, and I do recommend it. However, as with every single Betta, each has a different personality and that needs to be considered. Tank mates are usually the ones doing the nipping and the Betta ends of shredded if put in with the wrong type. Fish that are very small, such as live bearer fry or Neons when very tiny (fully grown Neons are usually fine) make for good snacks. Bettas are carnivores, so anything it can fit into it's mouth will be. In regard to housing a male in with females, again that depends on tank size, as well as each individual personality of each fish. Sex plays no part in aggression here. A female can shred up a male just as good, so only experienced Betta keepers should house females and a male in one tank. These fish are aware of what goes on outside their tank, so they quickly become tame to their owners. Stay away from freeze dried foods, as they will cause constipation. They need a good staple food and another "meat' type food, such as frozen bloodworms or brine shrimp. They should be fed twice a day, in small amounts. Their water should be kept clean and heated to 78-80*f. Makes me wonder who's recycling messages. Could our favourite fag boi Roy Hauer be back from the methadone clinic? Recycled? What are you talking about? Both the replies I have done in the past few days have also showed up with a date *after* I posted them. Is this what you are talking about. I do find it odd that I message I sent like on the 18th says I did it on the 20th. Let's see when this one pops up. It's Friday, the 21st. And no, I am most certainly not sombody by the name of Roy. I am quite female. So save your silly comments about this Roy person and explain what you mean by my post being recycled. |
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Tynk wrote:
So save your silly comments about this Roy person and explain what you mean by my post being recycled. Please don't feed the trolls. -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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Victor Martinez wrote: Tynk wrote: So save your silly comments about this Roy person and explain what you mean by my post being recycled. Please don't feed the trolls. Thanks for letting me know that person was a troll, Victor. I've not been posting here for a while because of all the creeps that invaded. I did wonder why the 2 other posts I had made earlier in the week had a date on them that was later then when I posted them. And what is this recyling posts that "it" spoke of? |
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"Tynk" wrote in message oups.com... Köi-Lö wrote: "Victor Martinez" wrote in message ... Unless it's a male and a female, you cannot keep them in the same tank. They will fight until one of them is dead. ========================= This is not a good idea. I know this from experience. Unless the female is ready to breed the male may constantly attack and harass her until she dies - that is unless the tank is quite large and she can avoid him. Bettas do very well in 1g tanks or jars. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* I'm guessing you don't have much experience housing a male inwith females. I'm guessing you are quite WRONG. Perhaps your males were not as aggressive as mine were. Rarely have I ever had a male go after a female until he killed her. He doesn't KILL her - the stress and infections from torn fins kill her. Of course in something small, such as a 1g or 2g or even a 3g sure...there will be problems. There will even be problems in a 10g tank. A planted 30Long would be much better for the female as she can get away from his harassment. Unless your males are not very aggressive. However, it's not always the male doing it. It's not always about a breeding thing either. No one said it was ALWAYS about a breeding thing now did they? :-) It's about territory and aggression in each individual Betta. Exactly! As usual, each Betta is different. As long as you have a large enough tank (and we're not talking that it must be enormous, just no smaller than a 10g with like 3 females to one male, but a larger tank is always better) and their indifivual personalites allow it, they can be perfectly fine. This has all been said here before I believe. I've been keeping Bettas for 28 yrs and housing a male with females is common place. Of course it is *IF* the tank is large enough and the females can avoid the males harassment. I also bred them for 19 of those yrs and I've only had 4 (one recently) that couldn't be housed with females. 9 out of 10 of those I had couldn't be trusted with females in anything less than a 30L planted tank. You seem to have unusually unaggressive males. I will say I have had more females not allow a male in the tank. I currently have a batch of females with 2 of them that shred up any male they see. I can't comment since I never put a male in the tanks that housed my females. One of those ladies would kill if she had the chance. She's that aggressive with males but peachy with the other females, as long as they know their place in their hierarchy. To say the do "well in jars"....not really. They simply survive. They should be kept in heated tanks and let thrive. I agree, if someone has the money and space for all those tanks... they should go for it. The rest of us will continue to use bowls and large jars. This too has been discussed here before. Unless you have a heated fish room, a room temp bowl isn't going to be at 78-80*f (their proper temp). Flucuating temps (unheated bowls or tanks) is hard on any fish. When it comes to Bettas they are more prone to fin infections because of this. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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"Victor Martinez" wrote in message ... Dick wrote: I have seen single male Betas in small bowls, no filtration. That doesn't mean it's the best for the fish. ===================== If you're really concerned about what is BEST for the fish then we need to leave them in their NATURAL environment. No fishtank can come close to that. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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Köi-Lö wrote:
If you're really concerned about what is BEST for the fish then we need to leave them in their NATURAL environment. No fishtank can come close to that. Again, you are wrong. Many fish species in the wild have shorter life spans than in captivity. Besides, we are not arguing over the morality of keeping fish, but on how best to keep them. A larger tank will always be better. -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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That doesn't mean it's the best for the fish. 100% ACK..! HTH.. -- cu Marco |
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"Victor Martinez" wrote in message ... Köi-Lö wrote: If you're really concerned about what is BEST for the fish then we need to leave them in their NATURAL environment. No fishtank can come close to that. Again, you are wrong. Many fish species in the wild have shorter life spans than in captivity. You're entitled to your opinion. No fish is going to have a better QUALITY of life in the limited space of a fishtank than they achieve in their natural habitat where they evolved. A LONG life is not necessarily a "happy" or healthy life. Besides, we are not arguing over the morality of keeping fish, but on how best to keep them. A larger tank will always be better. This I agree with. But nothing can be better than a fish's or animal's natural habitat for the general welfare of the animal/fish/bird and it's quality of life. A prime example are the cageless zoos and the reasons for them. -- KL....... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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"[-=LÈGIÖN=-]" wrote in message ... I kept a pair in my 55 gal when I started the hobby back up again this spring, after 20 years of being awol... they were my first pair of bettas and I had no problems at all. They had lots of swimming room, plenty of plants to duck and hide. They would probably also do well in a well planted 30Long tank as well. But people who try to put a pair in a small tank can be sorely disappointed. But they were my best fish ever, with their personalities and easy going demeanor. They definitely have their own personalities. :-) -- KL.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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Köi-Lö wrote:
You're entitled to your opinion. Idem. No fish is going to have a better QUALITY of life in the limited space of a fishtank than they achieve in their natural habitat where they evolved. A LONG life is not necessarily a "happy" or healthy life. Let's take a simple and common example, shall we? Cardinal tetras. In the wild they have to forrage for food, escape predators, and then suffocate in the dry season when their habitat dries up. In my little tank they have no predators, get food twice a day and they have a life expentance of several years. :) This I agree with. But nothing can be better than a fish's or animal's natural habitat for the general welfare of the animal/fish/bird and it's quality of life. A prime example are the cageless zoos and the reasons for them. I think it's dangerous to make a generalization like that across species as different as fish and mammals. For many species, living in the wild is a daily struggle for survival. In general, I am against imprisonment of higher species for our amusement. -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:13:07 -0500, Victor Martinez
wrote: Köi-Lö wrote: You're entitled to your opinion. Idem. No fish is going to have a better QUALITY of life in the limited space of a fishtank than they achieve in their natural habitat where they evolved. A LONG life is not necessarily a "happy" or healthy life. Let's take a simple and common example, shall we? Cardinal tetras. In the wild they have to forrage for food, escape predators, and then suffocate in the dry season when their habitat dries up. In my little tank they have no predators, get food twice a day and they have a life expentance of several years. :) This I agree with. But nothing can be better than a fish's or animal's natural habitat for the general welfare of the animal/fish/bird and it's quality of life. A prime example are the cageless zoos and the reasons for them. I think it's dangerous to make a generalization like that across species as different as fish and mammals. For many species, living in the wild is a daily struggle for survival. In general, I am against imprisonment of higher species for our amusement. The world would be better off without terrorists. How things might be better is an endless list. What we each do is make the best of our own situation. If I only have a 1 gallon tank, then I do my best to not over crowd it. However, if my life quality is improved by having the fish, I find it relaxing in a hectic world, then the fish is doing something important. Animal rights must always be second to human needs. It is the way of the world. I have been told my 10 gallon tank is too small for my 2 SAEs and 1 Clown Loach. I can find no difference in color nor activity between them and those I have in a 75 gallon tank. Do you have telepathy with your fish? I feel sorry for my dogs when they rush the fence to chase rabbits. I think they would be happier to run in the fields. There is a trade off, fun for longevity. Of course, it doesn't matter, I won't risk my happiness on the chance they will be happier outside the fence. They seem happy with my choice. dick |
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On 20 Jul 2006 16:17:49 -0700, "Tynk" wrote:
Dick wrote: I have seen single male Betas in small bowls, no filtration. Betas are sometimes put singularly into community tanks. It has been a long times since I tried. As I recall they sometimes would nip fins. dick FYI....that would be Betta. (it's pornounced "bet-uh", not "bait-uh" and is the usual reason for the misspelling) Google points out the spelling error, but still listed sites. Pleco is not a correct spelling either, but is used. I saved one whole stroke. A rose by any other name smells as sweet. dick Bettas can only survive in a small, unheated and unfiltered bowl. However, they will thrive in a heated tank. 1g is the absolute minimum tank they should be housed in. Keeping them in community tanks is often fine, and I do recommend it. However, as with every single Betta, each has a different personality and that needs to be considered. Tank mates are usually the ones doing the nipping and the Betta ends of shredded if put in with the wrong type. Fish that are very small, such as live bearer fry or Neons when very tiny (fully grown Neons are usually fine) make for good snacks. Bettas are carnivores, so anything it can fit into it's mouth will be. In regard to housing a male in with females, again that depends on tank size, as well as each individual personality of each fish. Sex plays no part in aggression here. A female can shred up a male just as good, so only experienced Betta keepers should house females and a male in one tank. These fish are aware of what goes on outside their tank, so they quickly become tame to their owners. Stay away from freeze dried foods, as they will cause constipation. They need a good staple food and another "meat' type food, such as frozen bloodworms or brine shrimp. They should be fed twice a day, in small amounts. Their water should be kept clean and heated to 78-80*f. |
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"Victor Martinez" wrote in message ... Köi-Lö wrote: You're entitled to your opinion. Idem. No fish is going to have a better QUALITY of life in the limited space of a fishtank than they achieve in their natural habitat where they evolved. A LONG life is not necessarily a "happy" or healthy life. Let's take a simple and common example, shall we? Cardinal tetras. In the wild they have to forrage for food, escape predators, and then suffocate in the dry season when their habitat dries up. In my little tank they have no predators, get food twice a day and they have a life expentance of several years. :) Several years of WHAT though? Boredom? Again, think of the cageless zoo. The animals that paced themselves into insanity in the zoos also lived much longer than their wild brethren, but there was little quality to that extra time. This I agree with. But nothing can be better than a fish's or animal's natural habitat for the general welfare of the animal/fish/bird and it's quality of life. A prime example are the cageless zoos and the reasons for them. I think it's dangerous to make a generalization like that across species as different as fish and mammals. For many species, living in the wild is a daily struggle for survival. That they are well suited to........ If they were not, they would have gone extinct. In general, I am against imprisonment of higher species for our amusement. I am as well. I'm also very much against keeping birds in those small cages most people buy and against lizards and snakes kept in tanks. I've seen rabbits kept in tiny cages where they had hardly any room to lay down. I've seen dogs kept in fenced pens so small that were wall to wall feces. And as for fish. The death rate of those sold in pet shops is astronomical. Most are dead within a few weeks due to ignorance and other reasons...... hardly an improvement over nature. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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"Dick" wrote in message ... I feel sorry for my dogs when they rush the fence to chase rabbits. I think they would be happier to run in the fields. There is a trade off, fun for longevity. Of course, it doesn't matter, I won't risk my happiness on the chance they will be happier outside the fence. They seem happy with my choice. ================= Where cruelty and lack of quality of life come in is where dogs are kept in such small pens they are living in their own feces. Some have little or no shade. There were several recent cases where I live of dogs not even being given water in this heat and humidity. One pup died before the woman (a neighbor) could get help for the pup. The owner casually tossed it into the garbage can....... -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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Köi-Lö wrote:
Several years of WHAT though? Boredom? I seriously doubt fish have enough brains to get bored. :) Again, think of the cageless zoo. The animals that paced themselves into insanity in the zoos also lived much longer than their wild brethren, but there was little quality to that extra time. We're talking fish, not mammals. That they are well suited to........ If they were not, they would have gone extinct. Who says they aren't in process of being extinct? -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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They definitely have their own personalities. :-)
Which is a big part of if a male/female can be put together. Most times people say you can only put a male by him self, and some males that is true, but not most of them, mind seem to do better in a community. Tynk I think has hers in a 75g, Ed I think had his in a 55g, I have a pair in a 30 long, with out no problem. I have a male & female betta in with gourami's, and they get along great, most people say you cant do that. Its just a matter of how that betta male or female gets along with the other fish. Like tynk I have had several females give a males a run for their money. My female never hides from my male, they swim around together I am yet to see him try and nip her, now on occasion she will nip him but I think she just wants him to know his place. I see it wrote on here all the time, bettas have to be alone, they have to be in bowls, all kind of things that are not true, and its a shame because it adds to all the miss information out there about them. Nik |
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"Victor Martinez" wrote in message ... Köi-Lö wrote: Several years of WHAT though? Boredom? I seriously doubt fish have enough brains to get bored. :) But we can't know that. I've seen fish swim mindlessly up and down the corner of a tank - just like the pacing animals in the old zoos. Again, think of the cageless zoo. The animals that paced themselves into insanity in the zoos also lived much longer than their wild brethren, but there was little quality to that extra time. We're talking fish, not mammals. Fish have brains. They're not houseplants. ;-) See above. I had one betta that was clearly going stir-bugs in a 2g display tank. He'd swim aimlessly back and forth from one end of the tank to the other, about 2" above the gravel... over and over and over,...back and forth.... little difference between that and the caged bird that sways back and forth by the hour. Or the big cat that paces endlessly from one end of it's cage to the other. That they are well suited to........ If they were not, they would have gone extinct. Who says they aren't in process of being extinct? Who says *we're* not in the process of going extinct? ;-) -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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"Nikki" wrote in message ... They definitely have their own personalities. :-) Which is a big part of if a male/female can be put together. Most times people say you can only put a male by him self, and some males that is true, but not most of them, mind seem to do better in a community. Tynk I think has hers in a 75g, Ed I think had his in a 55g, I have a pair in a 30 long, with out no problem. These are BIGGER tanks and if planted and the bettas are not very aggressive, it should be ok. I just don't think people should be encouraged to even try it if they have a tank smaller than a 30L. Also as someone already mentioned - they will eat anything small enough to get into their mouths. That can be anything from a small neon tetra to a baby platy or guppy. I have a male & female betta in with gourami's, and they get along great, most people say you cant do that. Its just a matter of how that betta male or female gets along with the other fish. Like tynk I have had several females give a males a run for their money. My female never hides from my male, they swim around together I am yet to see him try and nip her, The males I had would rapidly chase away any female not interested in their ever present bubble nests. After losing females to infections in shredded fins I kept them all separate unless pairing them off to breed. now on occasion she will nip him but I think she just wants him to know his place. I see it wrote on here all the time, bettas have to be alone, they have to be in bowls, all kind of things that are not true, You can't say it's not true since you don't know the temperaments of the fish the person posting has, or how large their tanks are, or if the tanks are planted or not. So what may be true of a 30L planted tank with a few mellow bettas will not apply to someone with a 10g tank with one or no plants. and its a shame because it adds to all the miss information out there about them. See above. It's not misinformation where really aggressive bettas are concerned and smaller tanks with few or no hiding places. Don't assume everyone has a 30L or larger planted tank. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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"[-=LÈGIÖN=-]" wrote in message ... Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding.. DARN! I thought you were the ice cream man!!!!! :-)) Time Out....Time Out.... Now go to your corners. Whew.. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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What does your male think of her? Is there a big size difference between
them? you still have your male dont you. I have put a lot of bettas in the tank with no quarantine, been fine so far. I did not know walmart kept their females in bowls, petsmart puts their in tanks, but petco keep them in bowls also. she sounds pretty, Nik I just picked up a really nice light-turqouise female betta this pm. She's about 1.25 inches and seems to being enjoying the new home from the cramped little plastic bowl she was in at the Walmart store. No quarantine took place...just slow acclimating her to the new water and hope for the best. Not showing any signs of stress, finnage all out on point, checking the 'hood out. Eating sun-dried shrimp as I type this. Hoping for the best. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Nikki wrote:
What does your male think of her? Is there a big size difference between them? you still have your male dont you. I have put a lot of bettas in the tank with no quarantine, been fine so far. I did not know walmart kept their females in bowls, petsmart puts their in tanks, but petco keep them in bowls also. she sounds pretty, Nik I just picked up a really nice light-turqouise female betta this pm. She's about 1.25 inches and seems to being enjoying the new home from the cramped little plastic bowl she was in at the Walmart store. No quarantine took place...just slow acclimating her to the new water and hope for the best. Not showing any signs of stress, finnage all out on point, checking the 'hood out. Eating sun-dried shrimp as I type this. Hoping for the best. Hi Nikki..!.. I lost the male about a month ago. It developed a pine cone affect where his scales jutted outward and he lost his color. He died in quaratine. My guess was something intestinal. So for now she's by herself. Once my platy babes are mature enough to determine sex, I have a new neighbor that would like some. She wants to start the hobby again (after coming over and seeing my tank all full of life. =) At present, the largest fish my 55 is a bala shark...he's growing like a weed ..just under 4 inches. Doesn't bother a sole. So the babies wonder all about the tank, from top to bottom, with no fear save man. They're all under half an inch now. If female bettas can be content living among their own sex, I'd be content with just the females. Has anyone kept only female bettas for long periods of time? -- [-=LÈGIÖN=-] ...For We Are Many - Trailer For Sale or Rent -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Nikki" wrote in message . .. What does your male think of her? Is there a big size difference between them? you still have your male dont you. I have put a lot of bettas in the tank with no quarantine, been fine so far. I did not know walmart kept their females in bowls, petsmart puts their in tanks, but petco keep them in bowls also. she sounds pretty, Nik =============== The Wal*Mart stores here keep them in the plastic shipping "bowls" or cups with tops. There is a hole in the top for feeding and air exchange. The boy working there told me they are no longer allowed to feed the fish. I suppose they allow those not sold to starve to death. The Plecos were like skeletons...... -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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""[-=LÈGIÖN=-]"" wrote in message .. . If female bettas can be content living among their own sex, I'd be content with just the females. Has anyone kept only female bettas for long periods of time? ==================== Yes, and they got along ok. A nip here and there but otherwise they lived in relative peace. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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""[-=LÈGIÖN=-]"" wrote in message .. . Nikki wrote: What does your male think of her? Is there a big size difference between them? you still have your male dont you. I have put a lot of bettas in the tank with no quarantine, been fine so far. I did not know walmart kept their females in bowls, petsmart puts their in tanks, but petco keep them in bowls also. she sounds pretty, Nik I just picked up a really nice light-turqouise female betta this pm. She's about 1.25 inches and seems to being enjoying the new home from the cramped little plastic bowl she was in at the Walmart store. No quarantine took place...just slow acclimating her to the new water and hope for the best. Not showing any signs of stress, finnage all out on point, checking the 'hood out. Eating sun-dried shrimp as I type this. Hoping for the best. Hi Nikki..!.. I lost the male about a month ago. It developed a pine cone affect where his scales jutted outward and he lost his color. He died in quaratine. My guess was something intestinal. So for now she's by herself. Once my platy babes are mature enough to determine sex, I have a new neighbor that would like some. She wants to start the hobby again (after coming over and seeing my tank all full of life. =) At present, the largest fish my 55 is a bala shark...he's growing like a weed ..just under 4 inches. Doesn't bother a sole. So the babies wonder all about the tank, from top to bottom, with no fear save man. They're all under half an inch now. If female bettas can be content living among their own sex, I'd be content with just the females. Has anyone kept only female bettas for long periods of time? [-=LÈGIÖN=-] ...For We Are Many - Trailer For Sale or Rent I have kept females by them self and they been fine. I had one of my females in with some gouramis and loaches for quite some time, a couple of weeks ago I added a male and they seem fine together. I also have a ten gl divided three ways with Plexiglas with a male in one part, a female in another and a betta fry who is about half way grown in the other part. sorry about your male, I had the same thing happen to my female. I am thinking about setting up a all shark tank, think that will be neat, I have a RTS who don't seem to like no fish at all, I read the other day that RTS are minnows (sp?) I did not know that. What color is your platy that had babies, I have a set of sunset and a set of micky mouse, i found a baby from the sunset in the tank one day and you can tell what it is because its orange, but the following week i seen a lot of babies, i dipped them out and they are not that same color so i am thinking they are from the blue platy, but they have no color yet they dont look much different then the fancy guppy fry right now. What did your babies look like the first week? Nik |
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"Köi-Lö" $##$$@$##$$.#$$ wrote in message ... "Nikki" wrote in message . .. What does your male think of her? Is there a big size difference between them? you still have your male dont you. I have put a lot of bettas in the tank with no quarantine, been fine so far. I did not know walmart kept their females in bowls, petsmart puts their in tanks, but petco keep them in bowls also. she sounds pretty, Nik =============== The Wal*Mart stores here keep them in the plastic shipping "bowls" or cups with tops. There is a hole in the top for feeding and air exchange. The boy working there told me they are no longer allowed to feed the fish. I suppose they allow those not sold to starve to death. The Plecos were like skeletons...... -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* They don't feed them? humm, I don't know what to say, other then no wonder they die so often when people bring them home. The best set up I found was petsmart because they were in a filtered tank, however they did not look to good to me so who knows maybe they are better separate at the stores, unlike other fish female bettas go though a process of figuring out who is boss and that can take a good week, I guess them going though that twice, once at the store then again when someone gets them home...is not good for them. Nik |
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"Nikki" wrote in message ... "Köi-Lö" $##$$@$##$$.#$$ wrote in message The Wal*Mart stores here keep them in the plastic shipping "bowls" or cups with tops. There is a hole in the top for feeding and air exchange. The boy working there told me they are no longer allowed to feed the fish. I suppose they allow those not sold to starve to death. The Plecos were like skeletons...... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* They don't feed them? humm, I don't know what to say, other then no wonder they die so often when people bring them home. That's what the young man said that works in that dept. He's forbidden to feed them and they keep the thing locked so no one else can feed them either. There's a board of some kind with an actual lock on it that must be unlocked so they can see the fish or remove the dead ones. Judging by some of the skeletons I saw and fuzzy corpses I don' think they remove many of the dead ones. :-( I avoid the pet section when I go there now. It gets me too upset....... The best set up I found was petsmart because they were in a filtered tank, however they did not look to good to me so who knows maybe they are better separate at the stores, unlike other fish female bettas go though a process of figuring out who is boss and that can take a good week, I guess them going though that twice, once at the store then again when someone gets them home...is not good for them. I agree. The poor little critters suffer a lot of stress between their breeder and their final home. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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[-=LÈGIÖN=-] wrote: Thanks for hanging around the aquaria groups. It will be noisy here from time to time, relative to the aquaria/pond/garden wars with certain posters as targets, including myself. Your postings are valuable us all. Thanks. I have to do what I can to save the poor Bettas living in cold jars! Sheesh. Some folks just want to argue. I just like telling the facts. |
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Köi-Lö wrote: Besides, we are not arguing over the morality of keeping fish, but on how best to keep them. A larger tank will always be better. This I agree with. But nothing can be better than a fish's or animal's natural habitat for the general welfare of the animal/fish/bird and it's quality of life. A prime example are the cageless zoos and the reasons for Ok....but you just said in another post that Bettas are fine bowls or jars. They aren't. |
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Victor Martinez wrote: Let's take a simple and common example, shall we? Cardinal tetras. In the wild they have to forrage for food, escape predators, and then suffocate in the dry season when their habitat dries up. In my little tank they have no predators, get food twice a day and they have a life expentance of several years. :) I think it's dangerous to make a generalization like that across species as different as fish and mammals. For many species, living in the wild is a daily struggle for survival. In general, I am against imprisonment of higher species for our amusement. Oh Victor....GREAT example. Cardinals (neons too)! In the wild, they are considred "annual" fish. This is because they only live about a year, IF they don't get eaten or die of disease. However, in a tank they live for many years. Can't even compare. |
Betta question
Koi Lo wrote:
See above. It's not misinformation where really aggressive bettas are concerned and smaller tanks with few or no hiding places. Don't assume everyone has a 30L or larger planted tank. -- Being that this has been explained over and over and over.... That the tank needs to be large enough, well planted and that each individual personality allows it, no one is talking about a small, bare tank. No one needs to assume it it has to be the size tank YOU used either. Seems to me you're getting overly aggressive males. If you have had a large enough tank and this many probs, I'd look into finding new stock. You also said in one of your posts about the male building his nests.... If a male is in a filtered, heated tank and with 3 or more females (proper size and dechor of course) there shouldn't be any spawning behavior going on anyway. You also run into trouble trying to house only one female and one male per tank. They have to form a hierarchy which can't be done properly with only a pair. Occasionly you will find a couple of placid Bettas and they're fine. But to say the male will always shred a female, stress her, or kill her, whatever it is you're saying today (this does change per post) and that they shouldn't ever be housed together is simply wrong. It just is. I bet the entire problem you have experienced is not enough females and a tank that was too small. Besides....if you had overly aggressive males (rare with Splendens) you should have never tried to house them together. |
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