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Peter Pan August 30th 06 03:41 PM

sea horses
 
I use this chart as to what I can and can not put in my tank.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/c...lity_chart.cfm It's a basic
guide for your tank. Good luck



kim gross August 30th 06 09:39 PM

sea horses
 
donna & david wrote:
hi, im a new marine tank enthusiast. We have a small tank with a clown and a
blenny. (in about 60 litre tank, i think it is anyway)

Im very happy with it, however i would like to know if i can put a sea horse
in with them. Or do i need a bigger tank maybe, or are sea horse not good
with other species.

any help much appreciated
cheers david


Sea Horses are not good tankmates for just about any fish (other than a
other Sea horses or pipefish). They are very slow eaters and most other
fish will out compete them for food so they will end up starving to death.

Kim
www.jensalt.com



Don Geddis August 30th 06 11:01 PM

sea horses
 
"donna & david" wrote on Wed, 30 Aug 2006:
hi, im a new marine tank enthusiast. We have a small tank with a clown and a
blenny. (in about 60 litre tank, i think it is anyway)
Im very happy with it, however i would like to know if i can put a sea horse
in with them.


What kind of clown? What kind of blenny?

If you have a peaceful clown (like an ocellaris), and a bottom-dwelling
peaceful blenny, then there's a small chance it would work. Most likely
even then the seahorse would have a hard time getting enough food, as the
faster fish eat it all first.

If you have an aggressive clown (like a maroon) and blenny, then no.

Or do i need a bigger tank maybe


No, not at all. Seahorses are among the best fish in the world for tiny
tanks. They do fine in hardly any room. Great for nano tanks, for example.

or are sea horse not good with other species.


That's more like it. Seahorses are extremely slow and peaceful, so any
aggressive fish is a bad tankmate. And they eat very slowly too, so pretty
much any fish will be too fast for them and they'll starve.

But every once in awhile you can pair seahorse(s) with a few peaceful fish.
If you're very careful that the seahorses get enough food.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
Grandpa was a superstitious old guy. One of his superstitions he told me was
"Tell Grandma about my whiskey, and you won't be quite so frisky." Another one
was "Wake me from my nap, and you will get a slap." I think a lot of them
ended with "slap." -- Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey [1999]

RubenD August 30th 06 11:33 PM

sea horses
 
A good tank mate is the pajama cardinal, very peaceful fish.

I would recommend against getting a seahorse because it is very patience and
time demanding when it comes to feeding.

You need to buy special food, like frozen mysid shrimp, otherwise he might
not eat at all and starve to death.

Good luck either way.


"donna & david" wrote in message
...
hi, im a new marine tank enthusiast. We have a small tank with a clown and

a
blenny. (in about 60 litre tank, i think it is anyway)

Im very happy with it, however i would like to know if i can put a sea

horse
in with them. Or do i need a bigger tank maybe, or are sea horse not good
with other species.

any help much appreciated
cheers david





Inabón Yunes August 30th 06 11:59 PM

sea horses
 
Sea horses are one of the most intolerant fishes there are. If you are
ready to keep your aquarium steady, go for it but prepare a feeding ground
where the clown has little or no access or he will out compete the sea
horse.
Do a little research before or else you are going to waist your money.
iy
"donna & david" wrote in message
...
hi, im a new marine tank enthusiast. We have a small tank with a clown and
a blenny. (in about 60 litre tank, i think it is anyway)

Im very happy with it, however i would like to know if i can put a sea
horse in with them. Or do i need a bigger tank maybe, or are sea horse
not good with other species.

any help much appreciated
cheers david




donna & david August 31st 06 12:54 AM

sea horses
 
hi, im a new marine tank enthusiast. We have a small tank with a clown and a
blenny. (in about 60 litre tank, i think it is anyway)

Im very happy with it, however i would like to know if i can put a sea horse
in with them. Or do i need a bigger tank maybe, or are sea horse not good
with other species.

any help much appreciated
cheers david



Wayne Sallee August 31st 06 06:49 PM

sea horses
 
Some good tank mates for sea horses, providing you have
adequate space, are yellow head jaw fish, high fined
banded gobies, cardinal fish, and fire fish.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



kim gross wrote on 8/30/2006 4:39 PM:
donna & david wrote:
hi, im a new marine tank enthusiast. We have a small tank with a clown
and a blenny. (in about 60 litre tank, i think it is anyway)

Im very happy with it, however i would like to know if i can put a sea
horse in with them. Or do i need a bigger tank maybe, or are sea
horse not good with other species.

any help much appreciated
cheers david

Sea Horses are not good tankmates for just about any fish (other than a
other Sea horses or pipefish). They are very slow eaters and most other
fish will out compete them for food so they will end up starving to death.

Kim
www.jensalt.com



Don Geddis August 31st 06 08:03 PM

sea horses
 
Wayne Sallee wrote on Thu, 31 Aug 2006:
Some good tank mates for sea horses, providing you have adequate space, are
yellow head jaw fish, high fined banded gobies, cardinal fish, and fire fish.


Mandarin dragonets, too.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
If you're an ant, and you're walking along across the top of a cup of pudding,
you probably have no idea that the only thing between you and disaster is the
strength of that pudding skin. -- Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey [1999]

Brandonb September 4th 06 10:29 PM

sea horses
 
My local shop also keeps Rainsford's Gobies AKA Court Jester Gobies in
with them and seem to be fine.

Brandonb


Wayne Sallee wrote:
Some good tank mates for sea horses, providing you have adequate space,
are yellow head jaw fish, high fined banded gobies, cardinal fish, and
fire fish.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Brandonb September 4th 06 11:18 PM

sea horses
 
RubenD wrote:
A good tank mate is the pajama cardinal, very peaceful fish.


Agreed. Mine is extremely peaceful, and normally slow moving and eating.
If something startles him though, he's gone like lightning. I normally
keep him separate from my more agressive-feeding fish to make sure that
he does get some food before its all gone. I haven't had any problem
with pellet or flake food or even frozen. Seems to love it all,
including mysid shrimp.

You need to buy special food, like frozen mysid shrimp, otherwise he might
not eat at all and starve to death.


Luckily the rest of my fish LOVE the mysid shrimp. I treat them to it
once or twice a week. My local shop has some tank-bred seahorses that
I've throught about getting that just get fed regular Spectrum pellet food.

Brandonb

Don Geddis September 5th 06 11:26 PM

sea horses
 
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Some good tank mates for sea horses [...]


Brandonb wrote on Mon, 04 Sep 2006:
My local shop also keeps Rainsford's Gobies AKA Court Jester Gobies in with
them and seem to be fine.


This actually isn't a good way to tell. Most local fish stores have high
turnover in livestock, plus a good fraction of in-store mortality.

Just as an example, have you ever seen a mandarin dragonet ("goby") in your
local store? They're almost always kept in clear bottomless tanks. Yet we
know, to keep a mandarin alive long term, you need a mature tank with lots of
live rock. Mandarins will generally not eat prepared/frozen food, only live
'pods (which grow in your live rock). Net result: the mandarins in the stores
are generally all slowly starving to death, but may be purchased by a consumer
before they die. If the consumer has a large mature tank, they may find food
there later. If the consumer has a tank that looks like the fish store tank,
they'll die soon enough.

As to your suggestion: peaceful gobies can indeed be good tankmates for
sea horses. But I just wanted to caution that you can't learn much just
because you see that pairing in the store. Those sea horses could well be
slowly starving to death.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
The human spirit is a very hard thing to kill. Even with a chainsaw.

Don Geddis September 5th 06 11:28 PM

sea horses
 
Brandonb wrote on Mon, 04 Sep 2006:
My local shop has some tank-bred seahorses that I've throught
about getting that just get fed regular Spectrum pellet food.


I have to say, I'm not sure I believe this. How long have they kept a
seahorse alive on pellet food? What is the species of the seahorse?
Does the tank have live rock?

This is so unusual as to be unlikely to be true.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
Work like you don't need the money.
Love like you've never been hurt.
Dance like nobody's watching.

George Patterson September 6th 06 01:36 AM

sea horses
 
Don Geddis wrote:

Just as an example, have you ever seen a mandarin dragonet ("goby") in your
local store? They're almost always kept in clear bottomless tanks. Yet we
know, to keep a mandarin alive long term, you need a mature tank with lots of
live rock.


The store where I buy fish keeps them in small reef tanks. They're pretty much
adamant about not selling them to people who don't have reef tanks. On of
several reasons I buy my stuff there.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

Brandonb September 6th 06 02:34 AM

sea horses
 
Don Geddis wrote:

This actually isn't a good way to tell. Most local fish stores have high
turnover in livestock, plus a good fraction of in-store mortality.


Agreed. In this case the store owner is as consciencious as he can be.
He always keeps the same types together also.

Just as an example, have you ever seen a mandarin dragonet ("goby") in your
local store? They're almost always kept in clear bottomless tanks. Yet we
know, to keep a mandarin alive long term, you need a mature tank with lots of
live rock. Mandarins will generally not eat prepared/frozen food, only live
'pods (which grow in your live rock). Net result: the mandarins in the stores
are generally all slowly starving to death, but may be purchased by a consumer
before they die. If the consumer has a large mature tank, they may find food
there later. If the consumer has a tank that looks like the fish store tank,
they'll die soon enough.


He usually has 1 or 2 mandarins, but no, he doesn't have any bottomless
tanks. They are always kept in established systems and supplemented with
some copepod-in-a-bottle thing. This, I believe:
http://www.reed-mariculture.com/copepod/

You're right though. Many places aren't as consciencious in caring for
their livestock.

As to your suggestion: peaceful gobies can indeed be good tankmates for
sea horses. But I just wanted to caution that you can't learn much just
because you see that pairing in the store. Those sea horses could well be
slowly starving to death.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
The human spirit is a very hard thing to kill. Even with a chainsaw.


Brandonb September 6th 06 03:13 AM

sea horses
 
Don Geddis wrote:
I have to say, I'm not sure I believe this. How long have they kept a
seahorse alive on pellet food? What is the species of the seahorse?
Does the tank have live rock?

This is so unusual as to be unlikely to be true.

-- Don


I may be mistaken about the pellet food vs another type. Its been a
while since I was looking at em.

Brandonb

Wayne Sallee September 7th 06 05:37 PM

sea horses
 
He is not going to be buying bottles of live pods to
supplement his mandarin.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Brandonb wrote on 9/5/2006 9:34 PM:
Don Geddis wrote:

This actually isn't a good way to tell. Most local fish stores have high
turnover in livestock, plus a good fraction of in-store mortality.


Agreed. In this case the store owner is as consciencious as he can be.
He always keeps the same types together also.

Just as an example, have you ever seen a mandarin dragonet ("goby") in
your
local store? They're almost always kept in clear bottomless tanks.
Yet we
know, to keep a mandarin alive long term, you need a mature tank with
lots of
live rock. Mandarins will generally not eat prepared/frozen food,
only live
'pods (which grow in your live rock). Net result: the mandarins in
the stores
are generally all slowly starving to death, but may be purchased by a
consumer
before they die. If the consumer has a large mature tank, they may
find food
there later. If the consumer has a tank that looks like the fish
store tank,
they'll die soon enough.


He usually has 1 or 2 mandarins, but no, he doesn't have any bottomless
tanks. They are always kept in established systems and supplemented with
some copepod-in-a-bottle thing. This, I believe:
http://www.reed-mariculture.com/copepod/

You're right though. Many places aren't as consciencious in caring for
their livestock.

As to your suggestion: peaceful gobies can indeed be good tankmates for
sea horses. But I just wanted to caution that you can't learn much just
because you see that pairing in the store. Those sea horses could
well be
slowly starving to death.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________

Don Geddis
http://reef.geddis.org/
The human spirit is a very hard thing to kill. Even with a chainsaw.


robiinjakson February 25th 11 05:15 PM

I was very peaceful, and often slow-moving and eating. If something disturbed him, although he has gone, like lightning. I usually let him out of my more aggressive, feeding fish, to ensure that he will not get some food before are gone. I do not have any problems, particle or flake food or frozen. Seems to love it all, including Mysis.


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