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swarvegorilla September 23rd 06 11:59 AM

G'day.
 
Hello.
Accidental cross posts aside I haven't really had the pleasure peoples.
I have a few year experience with marine fish but most has been with
predator setups.
Larger perch, eels, octopus and cuttle fish.
Now tho I have some very nice live rock going in a few tanks, not a real
reef yet but it's getting there sorta.
few soft corals but mainly just nice coraline algae.
Anyway 2 of my liverock 'friendly' tanks are 4 foot long and 1 &1/2 foot
wide
The other 2 are 3 foot long.
Each tank has clownfish (solomon island percs), blennys, snails,
I also have a coral beauty angel and an arc eye hawk fish in one of the 4's
My question is what fish do you reef guys have in your tanks that are doing
really well?

I'm not after a formula but I am interested to know what has worked well for
people.
I use ample biological filtration on these tanks and water changes to
control nitrates (on the beach here)
While not a live rock purist I have had nice results before.
And then woken up to see my new fish has eaten it all!


I know I haven't specified what anemone/coral/featherworms ect but I wanna
know the best behaved fish accross the board.
:-)
Must like clowns!




George Patterson September 23rd 06 08:43 PM

G'day.
 
swarvegorilla wrote:

While not a live rock purist I have had nice results before.
And then woken up to see my new fish has eaten it all!


You might check out http://www.melevsreef.com/id/ . Click on anything that
strikes your fancy. If Mark says it's "reef safe", you'll probably have no
trouble with it eating your critters. Then all you have to worry about is
whether it will be nice to your other fish.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are permanent.

krknbls September 23rd 06 09:52 PM

G'day.
 

"Stoutman" .@. wrote in message
m...


Why do you come here?



Cindy September 24th 06 12:15 AM

G'day.
 
Hi there,
Nice to meet a friendly type on the list.
I won't advise you about reefs as I don't know enough, but please ignore
Stoutman the Troll. It doesn't speak for anyone but itself.

:)
Cindy

George Patterson September 24th 06 03:25 AM

G'day.
 
krknbls wrote:

... unless you're referring to comic-relief.


Your sense of humor differs from mine. Come to think of it, so does your idea of
relief.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are permanent.

swarvegorilla September 24th 06 04:30 AM

G'day.
 
Sharks are boring, rays a little more interesting.
I am happy with my mangrove jack.
Pound for pound he's more predator than anything else I have.
The moray eel tank is also very nice, low maintenence and bad enuf to be a
'boys' tank heh heh
All my predators are in 6 foot by 2 foot by 2 foot tanks.
the ones I want to add more fish too are the smaller tanks.

But yea I kinda shoulda expected the return asshole call
Which I did. WHich is why I don't mind you made it.
See I'm not here for a flame war
just a few suggestions
cheers



swarvegorilla September 24th 06 04:34 AM

G'day.
 

"Cindy" wrote in message
m...
Hi there,
Nice to meet a friendly type on the list.
I won't advise you about reefs as I don't know enough, but please ignore
Stoutman the Troll. It doesn't speak for anyone but itself.

:)
Cindy



Hey cheers for that.
Kinda a day excursion from rfwm for me.
we just recovered from the worst trolling I had ever seen
so yea
they are everywhere

Anyway off to check out this
http://www.melevsreef.com/id/
cheers people
:-)
Swarvegorilla



swarvegorilla September 24th 06 05:00 AM

G'day.
 

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:B7gRg.1395$8O1.972@trnddc04...
swarvegorilla wrote:

While not a live rock purist I have had nice results before.
And then woken up to see my new fish has eaten it all!


You might check out http://www.melevsreef.com/id/ . Click on anything that
strikes your fancy. If Mark says it's "reef safe", you'll probably have no
trouble with it eating your critters. Then all you have to worry about is
whether it will be nice to your other fish.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.



Ok so blue chromis, a dotty back of some type, some sorta small Anthias and
maybe a red fire fish or 2
off now to check
http://thereeftank.com/forums/index.php
looks pretty intense!!



booger September 24th 06 02:41 PM

G'day.
 
This is overdue.

plonk


DORK!



Pszemol September 24th 06 06:40 PM

G'day.
 
"booger" wrote in message ...
Why do you come here?


You guys obviously need me. So here i am to stay.


Could you show us some pictures of your tanks, Master ?

booger September 24th 06 07:28 PM

G'day.
 

"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"booger" wrote in message
...
Why do you come here?


You guys obviously need me. So here i am to stay.


Could you show us some pictures of your tanks, Master ?


Ah, young Grasshopper,

When you truly understand the chemical dynamics within the ocean in your
living room and all its splendor, then and only then, will I reveal my tanks
and all their splendor.

Grasshopper, you still have much to learn and I much to teach. Let me focus
on teaching and you on learning.



Pszemol September 24th 06 07:40 PM

G'day.
 
"booger" wrote in message ...
When you truly understand the chemical dynamics within
the ocean in your living room and all its splendor, then
and only then, will I reveal my tanks and all their splendor.


Then I will not need to see your stinking tanks... ;)

Grasshopper, you still have much to learn and I much to teach.
Let me focus on teaching and you on learning.


First, you need to establish yourself as a teacher here...
Show us your tanks - let us know your masterpieces.
Let us to judge how good can you manage the ocean in your livingroom.

So far, you are at the position of anoying troll, not a teacher.

Pszemol September 25th 06 03:29 PM

G'day.
 
"booger" wrote in message m...
First, you need to establish yourself as a teacher here...


I will only become an established teacher if you Grasshopper,
become an established student.

Show us your tanks - let us know your masterpieces.
Let us to judge how good can you manage the ocean in your livingroom.

So far, you are at the position of anoying troll, not a teacher.


Watch and learn young Grasshopper.


I do not know what movie do you come from,
but I do not accept technings from anybody.
To be my teacher you need to show your credentials FIRST.

Wayne Sallee September 25th 06 04:46 PM

G'day.
 
Hold off on the anthias.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 9/24/2006 12:00 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:B7gRg.1395$8O1.972@trnddc04...
swarvegorilla wrote:

While not a live rock purist I have had nice results before.
And then woken up to see my new fish has eaten it all!

You might check out
http://www.melevsreef.com/id/ . Click on anything that
strikes your fancy. If Mark says it's "reef safe", you'll probably have no
trouble with it eating your critters. Then all you have to worry about is
whether it will be nice to your other fish.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.



Ok so blue chromis, a dotty back of some type, some sorta small Anthias and
maybe a red fire fish or 2
off now to check
http://thereeftank.com/forums/index.php
looks pretty intense!!



booger September 25th 06 05:22 PM

G'day.
 
I do not know what movie do you come from,
but I do not accept technings from anybody.
To be my teacher you need to show your credentials FIRST.


Ah, Grasshopper,

You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.



Pszemol September 25th 06 05:27 PM

G'day.
 
"booger" .@. wrote in message ...
I do not know what movie do you come from,
but I do not accept technings from anybody.
To be my teacher you need to show your credentials FIRST.


Ah, Grasshopper,

You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.


You obviously do not have nice pictures to show...
And that is why you prefer to talk about nothing.

booger September 25th 06 05:30 PM

G'day.
 
You obviously do not have nice pictures to show...
And that is why you prefer to talk about nothing.


Grasshopper, you are not ready. Besides didn't you write "Then I will not
need to see your stinking tanks..." ??




Pszemol September 25th 06 06:23 PM

G'day.
 
"booger" .@. wrote in message ...
You obviously do not have nice pictures to show...
And that is why you prefer to talk about nothing.


Grasshopper, you are not ready.


You are nobody until you show your teacher credentials.
Nobody is not worth listening to.

Pszemol September 26th 06 02:19 AM

G'day.
 
"booger" .@. wrote in message ...
You are nobody until you show your teacher credentials.
Nobody is not worth listening to.


Than why do you continue to converse with me Grasshopper?


To make it clear for you, little ant, that you are nobody.

swarvegorilla September 26th 06 03:23 AM

G'day.
 
Really?
dam thats what I want most of all
they are so cool to see during scuba
always wanted a hareem....
Pseudanthias sqamipinnis
really does it for me




"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hold off on the anthias.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 9/24/2006 12:00 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:B7gRg.1395$8O1.972@trnddc04...
swarvegorilla wrote:

While not a live rock purist I have had nice results before.
And then woken up to see my new fish has eaten it all!
You might check out
http://www.melevsreef.com/id/ . Click on anything
that strikes your fancy. If Mark says it's "reef safe", you'll probably
have no trouble with it eating your critters. Then all you have to worry
about is whether it will be nice to your other fish.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.



Ok so blue chromis, a dotty back of some type, some sorta small Anthias
and maybe a red fire fish or 2
off now to check
http://thereeftank.com/forums/index.php
looks pretty intense!!



Cindy September 26th 06 03:26 AM

G'day.
 
* swarvegorilla wrote, On 9/25/2006 9:05 PM:

In more important news, why 'Booger' do ya have to chose my thread to be a 3
year old on?


What I wanna know is, why do people keep answering him? I killfiled him, but
the replies are still wasting my time.

Bryan September 26th 06 04:26 AM

G'day.
 
Wow, I've never seen of heard of a Pataecus fronto, the Red Indian Fish.
Awesome. So tell me about his mannerisms... very interesting. That had
to cost you an arm or a leg, or both. :)

All I've read is they are only around Australia so I guess it would be
easier for you to get than I - Texas. But I couldn't find anything about
their aquarium life.

Not to mix up threads but I just want to say it all here... I had an
Anthias as well. Beautiful fish. I just could not get it to eat. If you
do buy one make the pet store feed it in front of you. That's not a
guarantee but that will add to your chances. They are only caught in the
ocean, not tank-born and raised from what I've read. Many times in the tank
they don't eat ANYTHING. I tried it all and in the process spoiled my other
critters so now I have to feed them more frequently.

Not to ward you away from Anthias, but I agree you may want to wait a bit to
get your tank more underway and your other new fish settled in so you can
spend more time watching this guy.

B
my set up and short Anthias story: www.geocities.com/bryg30



"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

Have my stocklist here, so it's all looking pretty good!
if anyone can see probs with this list please gimme a heads up.
:-)
Bicolour Angel (bicolor)
Blue damsel (coelestis)
Clown wrasse (coris gaimard) Juv.
Cleaner wrasse (dimidaitus)
banana wrasse (chrysus)
Gold/purple Anthias (Pseudanthias sqamipinnis) 4 F 1 M
Red indian fish (Pataecus fronto)

All of these fish have lept out and begged me to buy them
A lotta wrasse I know but I have 4 tanks to spread them out in.
My main problem is who outta these guys is gonna eat me liverock and
corals?
As I said before, aside from getting on with clowns, it would be good if
they didn't destroy too much
:)




George Patterson September 26th 06 04:42 AM

G'day.
 
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.


One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a pretty large
tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of importers to bring
them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't eliminate
the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are permanent.

swarvegorilla September 26th 06 04:15 PM

G'day.
 

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.


One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a pretty
large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of importers
to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.


I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a species
tank of them.



Wayne Sallee September 26th 06 08:33 PM

G'day.
 
They are not destructive to anything, they just need to
eat several times a day.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 9/26/2006 11:15 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a pretty
large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of importers
to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.


I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a species
tank of them.



Wayne Sallee September 26th 06 08:55 PM

G'day.
 
Oops wrong post :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/26/2006 3:33 PM:
They are not destructive to anything, they just need to eat several
times a day.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 9/26/2006 11:15 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.
One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance
of importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that
doesn't eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of
prohibition on exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.


I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.


Wayne Sallee September 26th 06 08:59 PM

G'day.
 
Ok well not exactly wrong post. I was referring to the
anthias.

I need to get some sleep. This business really cuts into
my sleep. Who needs sleep anyway :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/26/2006 3:55 PM:
Oops wrong post :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/26/2006 3:33 PM:
They are not destructive to anything, they just need to eat several
times a day.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 9/26/2006 11:15 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.
One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance
of importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that
doesn't eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of
prohibition on exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from
the collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.


Bryan September 26th 06 11:19 PM

G'day.
 
You know gorilla, you might actually have better look with a school over a
single anthias. They should be fine either way but the school will probably
be more comfortable in a tank together, therefore eat. I've done some
reading on them about this.

Just make sure the vendor has been able to feed them in the tank. That up's
your chances quite a bit.

Good luck,
Bryan

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.


One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of
importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.


I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.




William Marsh September 27th 06 12:31 AM

G'day.
 
Bryan: Just a thought I was advised that a school of anthias, or chromis
will need allot of food because unlike other fish they are constantly moving
in the water column and there for have a higher metabolism. Feeding the
tank allot is not necessarily a good thing. Just my .02 worth.
Bill M
"Bryan" wrote in message
...
You know gorilla, you might actually have better look with a school over a
single anthias. They should be fine either way but the school will
probably be more comfortable in a tank together, therefore eat. I've done
some reading on them about this.

Just make sure the vendor has been able to feed them in the tank. That
up's your chances quite a bit.

Good luck,
Bryan

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of
importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.


I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.






Bryan September 27th 06 01:54 AM

G'day.
 
you're right Bill. I had to step up my feeding on the single anthias I had.
Unfortunately he never ate so all my other fish had gotten fat. :) I
should have mentioned that. Sounds like the poster has some experience
though so hopefully he'll pick up on that.

Thanks,

B



"William Marsh" wrote in message
...
Bryan: Just a thought I was advised that a school of anthias, or chromis
will need allot of food because unlike other fish they are constantly
moving in the water column and there for have a higher metabolism.
Feeding the tank allot is not necessarily a good thing. Just my .02
worth.
Bill M
"Bryan" wrote in message
...
You know gorilla, you might actually have better look with a school over
a single anthias. They should be fine either way but the school will
probably be more comfortable in a tank together, therefore eat. I've
done some reading on them about this.

Just make sure the vendor has been able to feed them in the tank. That
up's your chances quite a bit.

Good luck,
Bryan

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of
importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.








swarvegorilla September 27th 06 04:24 PM

G'day.
 

Is there a true fish geek among us whose not insomniac
whether by choice or not
lol


"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
link.net...
Ok well not exactly wrong post. I was referring to the anthias.

I need to get some sleep. This business really cuts into my sleep. Who
needs sleep anyway :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/26/2006 3:55 PM:
Oops wrong post :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/26/2006 3:33 PM:
They are not destructive to anything, they just need to eat several
times a day.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 9/26/2006 11:15 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.
One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance
of importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.




swarvegorilla September 27th 06 04:31 PM

G'day.
 
Thats fine I like to feed my tanks through the day espec the puffers.
I also have no problem with fish only marine tanks.
I have large amounts of filtration and water change a lot
Thats cool as the Pacific is just over there ---
Cheers for the heads up on a school maybe working.
Would work well as the males are more expensive than females
so a pink boy and 3 or 4 bright orange girls would rock
Worst case scenario I'll try keep the tank stocked with shrimp heh heh



"Bryan" wrote in message
...
you're right Bill. I had to step up my feeding on the single anthias I
had. Unfortunately he never ate so all my other fish had gotten fat. :)
I should have mentioned that. Sounds like the poster has some experience
though so hopefully he'll pick up on that.

Thanks,

B



"William Marsh" wrote in message
...
Bryan: Just a thought I was advised that a school of anthias, or chromis
will need allot of food because unlike other fish they are constantly
moving in the water column and there for have a higher metabolism.
Feeding the tank allot is not necessarily a good thing. Just my .02
worth.
Bill M
"Bryan" wrote in message
...
You know gorilla, you might actually have better look with a school over
a single anthias. They should be fine either way but the school will
probably be more comfortable in a tank together, therefore eat. I've
done some reading on them about this.

Just make sure the vendor has been able to feed them in the tank. That
up's your chances quite a bit.

Good luck,
Bryan

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance
of importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.










swarvegorilla October 1st 06 01:52 PM

G'day.
 
OK I just scored a 6X2X2 to setup as a reef display.
heh heh
cool hey
going to hang some serious lighting over it, nice big chiller.
going to have to make some 'base rock' though (garf type) as tis a lotta
room and I want a nice arch in it.
I can't for the life of me figure it out but people want to watch fish swim
thru arches!!
Anyway once I get it thru it's cycle I will have a school of the anthias
You can view tank from 3 sides which is sweet too.
for now though nothing but blue damsels, bi-colour and coral beauty angels,
maybe a dotty back and some blue chromis for the 4 footers
all excited now.
been a while since I setup a new big salt tank.
rokin
ummm.... where do you guys post pics?
heres alright or a binarie ng?



"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...
Thats fine I like to feed my tanks through the day espec the puffers.
I also have no problem with fish only marine tanks.
I have large amounts of filtration and water change a lot
Thats cool as the Pacific is just over there ---
Cheers for the heads up on a school maybe working.
Would work well as the males are more expensive than females
so a pink boy and 3 or 4 bright orange girls would rock
Worst case scenario I'll try keep the tank stocked with shrimp heh heh



"Bryan" wrote in message
...
you're right Bill. I had to step up my feeding on the single anthias I
had. Unfortunately he never ate so all my other fish had gotten fat. :)
I should have mentioned that. Sounds like the poster has some experience
though so hopefully he'll pick up on that.

Thanks,

B



"William Marsh" wrote in message
...
Bryan: Just a thought I was advised that a school of anthias, or
chromis will need allot of food because unlike other fish they are
constantly moving in the water column and there for have a higher
metabolism. Feeding the tank allot is not necessarily a good thing.
Just my .02 worth.
Bill M
"Bryan" wrote in message
...
You know gorilla, you might actually have better look with a school
over a single anthias. They should be fine either way but the school
will probably be more comfortable in a tank together, therefore eat.
I've done some reading on them about this.

Just make sure the vendor has been able to feed them in the tank. That
up's your chances quite a bit.

Good luck,
Bryan

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance
of importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that
doesn't eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of
prohibition on exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.












George Patterson October 2nd 06 01:49 AM

G'day.
 
swarvegorilla wrote:

ummm.... where do you guys post pics?
heres alright or a binarie ng?


Either a binary NG or a website. If you choose the latter, post links here.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are permanent.

Wayne Sallee October 2nd 06 07:11 PM

G'day.
 
Web sites.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 10/1/2006 8:52 AM:
OK I just scored a 6X2X2 to setup as a reef display.
heh heh
cool hey
going to hang some serious lighting over it, nice big chiller.
going to have to make some 'base rock' though (garf type) as tis a lotta
room and I want a nice arch in it.
I can't for the life of me figure it out but people want to watch fish swim
thru arches!!
Anyway once I get it thru it's cycle I will have a school of the anthias
You can view tank from 3 sides which is sweet too.
for now though nothing but blue damsels, bi-colour and coral beauty angels,
maybe a dotty back and some blue chromis for the 4 footers
all excited now.
been a while since I setup a new big salt tank.
rokin
ummm.... where do you guys post pics?
heres alright or a binarie ng?



"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...
Thats fine I like to feed my tanks through the day espec the puffers.
I also have no problem with fish only marine tanks.
I have large amounts of filtration and water change a lot
Thats cool as the Pacific is just over there ---
Cheers for the heads up on a school maybe working.
Would work well as the males are more expensive than females
so a pink boy and 3 or 4 bright orange girls would rock
Worst case scenario I'll try keep the tank stocked with shrimp heh heh



"Bryan" wrote in message
...
you're right Bill. I had to step up my feeding on the single anthias I
had. Unfortunately he never ate so all my other fish had gotten fat. :)
I should have mentioned that. Sounds like the poster has some experience
though so hopefully he'll pick up on that.

Thanks,

B



"William Marsh" wrote in message
...
Bryan: Just a thought I was advised that a school of anthias, or
chromis will need allot of food because unlike other fish they are
constantly moving in the water column and there for have a higher
metabolism. Feeding the tank allot is not necessarily a good thing.
Just my .02 worth.
Bill M
"Bryan" wrote in message
...
You know gorilla, you might actually have better look with a school
over a single anthias. They should be fine either way but the school
will probably be more comfortable in a tank together, therefore eat.
I've done some reading on them about this.

Just make sure the vendor has been able to feed them in the tank. That
up's your chances quite a bit.

Good luck,
Bryan

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.
One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance
of importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that
doesn't eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of
prohibition on exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.
I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.








swarvegorilla October 5th 06 12:54 PM

G'day.
 

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:amZTg.14273$Oh3.3312@trnddc04...
swarvegorilla wrote:

ummm.... where do you guys post pics?
heres alright or a binarie ng?


Either a binary NG or a website. If you choose the latter, post links
here.


websites it is then
I'm going to pack up one of me 6 foots at home so will cheat a bit.
bring a nice load of marine stuff into this thing to speed it all up.
Not exactly the sort of tank I can let go slow.
yea I know the nothing good happens fast call.
But how about something average that goes cool over time?
Decided today that while I go thru the liverock cycle I'm gonna stock this
one with a moray eel.
Have a cycled 450g otto cannister to throw on it, as well as about 25kg of
cycled lava baserock and 400L (2/3) of water from a mature tank so not
expecting much of a cycle even with a nice load of fresh liverock on top.
still one eel should do it
and the goldfish feeders shouldn't damage me algae to much
:-)
still this one has to look shmick and I want nice water before I blast it
with light and add me wussy corals
always liked feather worms too
wanna do something funky with an arch and them
could look good i recon



Pat November 14th 06 01:49 AM

G'day.
 


booger wrote:
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...

"booger" wrote in message
...

Why do you come here?

You guys obviously need me. So here i am to stay.


Could you show us some pictures of your tanks, Master ?



Ah, young Grasshopper,

When you truly understand the chemical dynamics within the ocean in your
living room and all its splendor, then and only then, will I reveal my tanks
and all their splendor.

Grasshopper, you still have much to learn and I much to teach. Let me focus
on teaching and you on learning.


Told you I wasn't going to ruin the dude's post. But things like the
exchange above prove that you are a troll, and a prick.

TROLL, prick, whatever, I can be either, neither will make me lose
sleep. If I were a true Troll I'd argue with everyone, not just the
assholes.

I'm confident that whatever you have got your doctorate in, you have a
great deal more knowledge than me about. However, having a doctorate
has nothing at all to do with intelligence. It has to do with the will
power or lack of motivation required to stay in school for many years.

You stated that your doctorate is not in marine biology, or at least I
drew that conclusion from very strong clues. So you have no more
meaning to me than any other joker with a tank for 2 years.

You have called me stupid, for no reason other than I don't agree with
what you have to say. I have limited knowledge on aquaria, and so do
you. But, I admit it, and you call me stupid.

You further prove my point about Ph.D.'s being arrogant and pompous.
You, by definition studied a very narrow subject matter, that's what
Ph.D.s are for. So why do you come here with 2 years experience and
pretend that you know everything, you clearly do not. The danger of
giving you an advanced degree is it makes you think you're superman.
When in reality you are a complete waste of airspace.

The decent doctors who got their degrees to help the world, or to do
something other than have a piece of paper that makes them seem smart,
are fine by me, they don't brag, don't boast, don't even mention it.
They have made a decision and lead their lives in a way that interacts
with people well. you are just a douche bag with a piece of paper pinned
to it.


In the most recent post you've decided to stick your horribly large head
into you state that I'm wrong for saying "Because I did it, you can do
it" I clearly stated in every post that is not what I'm saying....I'm
saying that it worked for me, and might work for him. I know I
struggled to find the best way to do things when I moved. But
wait....isn't that your message....I don't change water, so in every
single situation it's ok for you not to change water. That could be
reworded into...."Because I did it, you can do it"...wow you're a
hypocrite too.

Hitler...check
Prick...check
Asshole....check
douche bag...check
hypocrite...check
doctor....um, I guess

swarvegorilla December 3rd 06 10:44 AM

G'day.
 

"Pat" wrote in message
...


booger wrote:
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...

"booger" wrote in message
...

Why do you come here?

You guys obviously need me. So here i am to stay.

Could you show us some pictures of your tanks, Master ?



Ah, young Grasshopper,

When you truly understand the chemical dynamics within the ocean in
your living room and all its splendor, then and only then, will I reveal
my tanks and all their splendor.

Grasshopper, you still have much to learn and I much to teach. Let me
focus on teaching and you on learning.


Told you I wasn't going to ruin the dude's post. But things like the
exchange above prove that you are a troll, and a prick.


Hey I appreciated it too.
I am having the devils own trouble getting pics online
me new lights are faulty but
I have a new 5 foot bank on order
when I finally get this reef display looking good
I'll be back
There are nice pictures to be in this display
very happy but ya
when this thing is stocked
it's going to be a whole new tankful of new problems
love it
w00000t
and yea
an education of the world
can flog any specialist




TROLL, prick, whatever, I can be either, neither will make me lose sleep.
If I were a true Troll I'd argue with everyone, not just the assholes.

I'm confident that whatever you have got your doctorate in, you have a
great deal more knowledge than me about. However, having a doctorate has
nothing at all to do with intelligence. It has to do with the will power
or lack of motivation required to stay in school for many years.

You stated that your doctorate is not in marine biology, or at least I
drew that conclusion from very strong clues. So you have no more meaning
to me than any other joker with a tank for 2 years.

You have called me stupid, for no reason other than I don't agree with
what you have to say. I have limited knowledge on aquaria, and so do you.
But, I admit it, and you call me stupid.

You further prove my point about Ph.D.'s being arrogant and pompous. You,
by definition studied a very narrow subject matter, that's what Ph.D.s are
for. So why do you come here with 2 years experience and pretend that you
know everything, you clearly do not. The danger of giving you an advanced
degree is it makes you think you're superman. When in reality you are a
complete waste of airspace.

The decent doctors who got their degrees to help the world, or to do
something other than have a piece of paper that makes them seem smart, are
fine by me, they don't brag, don't boast, don't even mention it. They have
made a decision and lead their lives in a way that interacts with people
well. you are just a douche bag with a piece of paper pinned to it.


In the most recent post you've decided to stick your horribly large head
into you state that I'm wrong for saying "Because I did it, you can do it"
I clearly stated in every post that is not what I'm saying....I'm saying
that it worked for me, and might work for him. I know I struggled to find
the best way to do things when I moved. But wait....isn't that your
message....I don't change water, so in every single situation it's ok for
you not to change water. That could be reworded into...."Because I did
it, you can do it"...wow you're a hypocrite too.

Hitler...check
Prick...check
Asshole....check
douche bag...check
hypocrite...check
doctor....um, I guess




swarvegorilla December 6th 06 08:31 AM

Phase 1 almost complete!
 
Just ordered.


1 banana wrasse
20 blue saphire damsel
6 reticulated damsel
2 barrier reef clowns
2 orange and 1 purple anthias

yes I know all common names
ya really need to know I can type 'em out
they are going in with about 85kg of now well cured liverock.
The tanks a 6x2x2 and I'm choke pointed waiting for my lights.
Also have a pair of lawnmower blennys (peacocks) and lotsa snails etc

no I have no pics
yet
but it's all still coming along
these things take time
of which I have none.



Guayni SAHS December 7th 06 01:55 AM

Phase 1 almost complete!
 
Question!
Are you going to introduce them at the same time?
I hope you get your video camera ready and prepare yourself for some
astonishing gladiator fights...
I hope you liked the movie Gladiator because the two blennies are going to
give you a good show.
Then the 26 damsels are going to define their territories soon.
Since the damselfish are also anemonefish, they will see the clowns as fair
competition.
Please tape the outcome, it will be interesting to see if they all can live
together in this aquarium.
I may be wrong but you are up for a great battle.
Keep us informed please. We can all learn a good deal about your
initiative.

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...
Just ordered.


1 banana wrasse
20 blue saphire damsel
6 reticulated damsel
2 barrier reef clowns
2 orange and 1 purple anthias

yes I know all common names
ya really need to know I can type 'em out
they are going in with about 85kg of now well cured liverock.
The tanks a 6x2x2 and I'm choke pointed waiting for my lights.
Also have a pair of lawnmower blennys (peacocks) and lotsa snails etc

no I have no pics
yet
but it's all still coming along
these things take time
of which I have none.






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