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Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
What is this stuff ??? A few drops and your phosphates go away ?
Sounds to good to be true...Anyone know anything about this product ? Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...product=BL2131 Benefits: Phosphate Control is an amazingly simple and effective product that has revolutionized the way phosphates are removed from sal****er and freshwater aquariums. Having a phosphate free aquarium will control the growth of hair algae and other nuisance algae. In addition, regular use of Phosphate Control will increase the vitality, color and growth of your aquarium's inhabitants. Phosphate Control is Veterinarian Approved, and has been used by leading Public Aquariums, Livestock Wholesalers, Retailers and Hobbyists. Directions: Test your aquarium's phosphate level prior to use. It is recommended to maintain phosphate level below 0.03 ppm (mg/L). Six drops of Phosphate Control will lower your phosphate by 1 ppm (mg/L) for every 10 gallons (37.9 liters) of water. Do not lower your phosphates more than 1 ppm in a 24-hour period. For best results, add in high flow areas one drop at a time. Some temporary cloudiness may occur when adding this product. Cloudiness will clear up within 24-hours. For accurate results, wait 24-hours before re-testing your phosphate level. Wait ten minutes before dosing other supplements. Test regularly and treat as necessary. Warning: This product is not intended for human consumption. Keep out of reach of children. If ingested contact a physician or poison control center immediately. If you have any questions about the Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz or other Aquarium Supplies, please call us at 1-714-385-0080 or e-mail us at . |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
I want some I want some....
~m "TheRock" wrote in message news:Xnu9h.6013$IW2.1992@trndny03... What is this stuff ??? A few drops and your phosphates go away ? Sounds to good to be true...Anyone know anything about this product ? Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...product=BL2131 Benefits: Phosphate Control is an amazingly simple and effective product that has revolutionized the way phosphates are removed from sal****er and freshwater aquariums. Having a phosphate free aquarium will control the growth of hair algae and other nuisance algae. In addition, regular use of Phosphate Control will increase the vitality, color and growth of your aquarium's inhabitants. Phosphate Control is Veterinarian Approved, and has been used by leading Public Aquariums, Livestock Wholesalers, Retailers and Hobbyists. Directions: Test your aquarium's phosphate level prior to use. It is recommended to maintain phosphate level below 0.03 ppm (mg/L). Six drops of Phosphate Control will lower your phosphate by 1 ppm (mg/L) for every 10 gallons (37.9 liters) of water. Do not lower your phosphates more than 1 ppm in a 24-hour period. For best results, add in high flow areas one drop at a time. Some temporary cloudiness may occur when adding this product. Cloudiness will clear up within 24-hours. For accurate results, wait 24-hours before re-testing your phosphate level. Wait ten minutes before dosing other supplements. Test regularly and treat as necessary. Warning: This product is not intended for human consumption. Keep out of reach of children. If ingested contact a physician or poison control center immediately. If you have any questions about the Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz or other Aquarium Supplies, please call us at 1-714-385-0080 or e-mail us at . |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"TheRock" wrote in message news:Xnu9h.6013$IW2.1992@trndny03...
What is this stuff ??? A few drops and your phosphates go away ? Sounds to good to be true...Anyone know anything about this product ? This could be some chemical compound which creates insoluble phosphates which then will be removed by the filters or collect with detritus on your sump floor... They mention clouding... So some precipitation of insoluble material occurs for sure. I think it is similar to iron based phosban but in a liquid form. You could ask the manufacturer what the active ingredient is and then it would be more clear how the product works and what you really add to the water column. This would be important to avoid known problems caused with aluminium based phosphate removers. |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:Xnu9h.6013$IW2.1992@trndny03... What is this stuff ??? A few drops and your phosphates go away ? Sounds to good to be true...Anyone know anything about this product ? This could be some chemical compound which creates insoluble phosphates which then will be removed by the filters or collect with detritus on your sump floor... They mention clouding... So some precipitation of insoluble material occurs for sure. I think it is similar to iron based phosban but in a liquid form. You could ask the manufacturer what the active ingredient is and then it would be more clear how the product works and what you really add to the water column. This would be important to avoid known problems caused with aluminium based phosphate removers. Thought I'd try the seller first...one more to go... Hello Chris, Thank you for your e-mail. I am sorry but I do not know the scientific break down on how exactly this item is effective. I think it would be best if you were to contact the manufacture and speak with their technical support team so you can get the information you are looking for. Blue Life, 888 895 2583. Thanks again for contacting us. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do for you. Graham Crook Marine Depot Customer Service www.marineDepot.com 714-385-0080 |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"TheRock" wrote in message news:yBJ9h.6047$IW2.5469@trndny03...
Thought I'd try the seller first...one more to go... Please let us know what manufacturer responded about the active ingredients - that is interesting. |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
Pszemol wrote:
Please let us know what manufacturer responded about the active ingredients - that is interesting. Yes. Very interesting. This stuff sounds great. Hope it really is. George Patterson Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are. |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"TheRock" wrote in message news:yBJ9h.6047$IW2.5469@trndny03...
"Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:Xnu9h.6013$IW2.1992@trndny03... What is this stuff ??? A few drops and your phosphates go away ? Sounds to good to be true...Anyone know anything about this product ? This could be some chemical compound which creates insoluble phosphates which then will be removed by the filters or collect with detritus on your sump floor... They mention clouding... So some precipitation of insoluble material occurs for sure. I think it is similar to iron based phosban but in a liquid form. You could ask the manufacturer what the active ingredient is and then it would be more clear how the product works and what you really add to the water column. This would be important to avoid known problems caused with aluminium based phosphate removers. Thought I'd try the seller first...one more to go... Any luck with getting manufacturer to respond to your question ? |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:yBJ9h.6047$IW2.5469@trndny03... "Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:Xnu9h.6013$IW2.1992@trndny03... What is this stuff ??? A few drops and your phosphates go away ? Sounds to good to be true...Anyone know anything about this product ? This could be some chemical compound which creates insoluble phosphates which then will be removed by the filters or collect with detritus on your sump floor... They mention clouding... So some precipitation of insoluble material occurs for sure. I think it is similar to iron based phosban but in a liquid form. You could ask the manufacturer what the active ingredient is and then it would be more clear how the product works and what you really add to the water column. This would be important to avoid known problems caused with aluminium based phosphate removers. Thought I'd try the seller first...one more to go... Any luck with getting manufacturer to respond to your question ? Thanks for the reminder...I just called. Of course they (sales) wouldn't tell me EXACTLY what it was but what they say is exactly what you thought it did. It's some "potent" compound that has an "opening" to accept a phosphate molecule. It binds to it and it is skimmed out via protein skimmer. He said you tank is cloudy for 6 to 8 hours. He also said to be careful not to lower your Phos more than 1ppm per day because you can OD this stuff and possibly cause harm to you fish. Glue their gills up. I bought a tube, I'll keep yall posted |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"TheRock" wrote in message news:ws2dh.4753$sM2.3696@trndny05... "Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:yBJ9h.6047$IW2.5469@trndny03... "Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:Xnu9h.6013$IW2.1992@trndny03... What is this stuff ??? A few drops and your phosphates go away ? Sounds to good to be true...Anyone know anything about this product ? This could be some chemical compound which creates insoluble phosphates which then will be removed by the filters or collect with detritus on your sump floor... They mention clouding... So some precipitation of insoluble material occurs for sure. I think it is similar to iron based phosban but in a liquid form. You could ask the manufacturer what the active ingredient is and then it would be more clear how the product works and what you really add to the water column. This would be important to avoid known problems caused with aluminium based phosphate removers. Thought I'd try the seller first...one more to go... Any luck with getting manufacturer to respond to your question ? Thanks for the reminder...I just called. Of course they (sales) wouldn't tell me EXACTLY what it was but what they say is exactly what you thought it did. It's some "potent" compound that has an "opening" to accept a phosphate molecule. It binds to it and it is skimmed out via protein skimmer. He said you tank is cloudy for 6 to 8 hours. He also said to be careful not to lower your Phos more than 1ppm per day because you can OD this stuff and possibly cause harm to you fish. Glue their gills up. I bought a tube, I'll keep yall posted Note to self... never post when crazy kids are in the room. looks like my "r" key wasn't working. |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"TheRock" wrote in message news:SM3dh.2211$Gp2.932@trndny06...
Thanks for the reminder...I just called. Of course they (sales) wouldn't tell me EXACTLY what it was Of course... :) but what they say is exactly what you thought it did. It's some "potent" compound that has an "opening" to accept a phosphate molecule. It binds to it and it is skimmed out via protein skimmer. He said you tank is cloudy for 6 to 8 hours. He also said to be careful not to lower your Phos more than 1ppm per day because you can OD this stuff and possibly cause harm to you fish. Glue their gills up. I bought a tube, I'll keep yall posted Tube? 8-) Is this some kind of solid squizable out of the tube? There must be an easy chemical test to find out what is the major ion in the product... Should be relativelly easy to find iron/aluminium there... |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"TheRock" wrote in message news:yBJ9h.6047$IW2.5469@trndny03...
Thank you for your e-mail. I am sorry but I do not know the scientific break down on how exactly this item is effective. I think it would be best if you were to contact the manufacture and speak with their technical support team so you can get the information you are looking for. Blue Life, 888 895 2583. It is interesting :-) I tried to find their website looking by the keyword "blue life" and hoping I could read more about the product or the company itself - could not find it... I tried reverse phone directory to look up the (888) 895-2583 number and also nothing... Do you have anything else other than the phone? Anything on the bottle? Website address or any city/street address ? I hope this is not Joe & Schmoe in their grandpa garage-type company... :) |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:yBJ9h.6047$IW2.5469@trndny03... Thank you for your e-mail. I am sorry but I do not know the scientific break down on how exactly this item is effective. I think it would be best if you were to contact the manufacture and speak with their technical support team so you can get the information you are looking for. Blue Life, 888 895 2583. It is interesting :-) I tried to find their website looking by the keyword "blue life" and hoping I could read more about the product or the company itself - could not find it... I tried reverse phone directory to look up the (888) 895-2583 number and also nothing... Do you have anything else other than the phone? Anything on the bottle? Website address or any city/street address ? I hope this is not Joe & Schmoe in their grandpa garage-type company... :) Bottle actually, with a dropper. I'll be getting it on Dec 6. (FedEx) Sure, if there is a test you would like me to run let me know. |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
Got it today !!!
It's in the tank...the water clouded up a bit not much. Messured Phosphates are in the .5 range. (8pm) Fish and Corals look fine. I'll messure phos later and tomorrow...keep yall posted ! Here is their website: http://www.bluelifeusa.com/index.php |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
OK, Just did a test a little over 2 hours later 10:15pm
and Phosphates are almost not detectable. WOW ! I'll test again tomorrow night. Actually bought it he http://www.fragfarmer.com/home.php $20 plus ship So far looking good...again all fish and corals are fine. "TheRock" wrote in message news:gLodh.2051$g_3.1262@trndny02... Got it today !!! It's in the tank...the water clouded up a bit not much. Messured Phosphates are in the .5 range. (8pm) Fish and Corals look fine. I'll messure phos later and tomorrow...keep yall posted ! Here is their website: http://www.bluelifeusa.com/index.php |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"TheRock" wrote in message news:tGqdh.5440$sM2.3344@trndny05...
OK, Just did a test a little over 2 hours later 10:15pm and Phosphates are almost not detectable. WOW ! I'll test again tomorrow night. Actually bought it he http://www.fragfarmer.com/home.php $20 plus ship So far looking good...again all fish and corals are fine. Do you have some soft corals like toadstool Sarcophyton coral ? They react unhealthy to poisoning with aluminium ions... |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:tGqdh.5440$sM2.3344@trndny05... OK, Just did a test a little over 2 hours later 10:15pm and Phosphates are almost not detectable. WOW ! I'll test again tomorrow night. Actually bought it he http://www.fragfarmer.com/home.php $20 plus ship So far looking good...again all fish and corals are fine. Do you have some soft corals like toadstool Sarcophyton coral ? They react unhealthy to poisoning with aluminium ions... Yes 2 Sarcophyton frags. I just cut a monster 3 months ago. Traded 4 kept 2. They look fine. ZERO PHOSPHATES TODAY !!! This stuff works great. All water params are the same, including Copper and Iron. ( I tested for everything I had a kit for ) 2 THUMBS UP (for now) |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
I would be looking at how and why my phosphates got to where they are than looking for a solution to a problem that at most seems like a temporary bandaide. I am not familiar with the product you mention and do not intend to get familiar withit or any other phosphate or other ty0pe additive, but a lot of those products that kill off red slime and lower phosphates do a lot more behind the scenes that is not readily noticeable, such as effect beneficial bacteria etc......NOt saying that products does or donp;t, but I would address the problem why they go high to begin with and rectify that. Just my opinion On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:45:09 GMT, "TheRock" wrote: "Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:tGqdh.5440$sM2.3344@trndny05... OK, Just did a test a little over 2 hours later 10:15pm and Phosphates are almost not detectable. WOW ! I'll test again tomorrow night. Actually bought it he http://www.fragfarmer.com/home.php $20 plus ship So far looking good...again all fish and corals are fine. Do you have some soft corals like toadstool Sarcophyton coral ? They react unhealthy to poisoning with aluminium ions... Yes 2 Sarcophyton frags. I just cut a monster 3 months ago. Traded 4 kept 2. They look fine. ZERO PHOSPHATES TODAY !!! This stuff works great. All water params are the same, including Copper and Iron. ( I tested for everything I had a kit for ) 2 THUMBS UP (for now) |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
TheRock wrote:
( I tested for everything I had a kit for ) What testing kit do you have? George Patterson Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are. |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"Tristan" wrote in message ...
I would be looking at how and why my phosphates got to where they are than looking for a solution to a problem that at most seems like a temporary bandaide. I am not familiar with the product you mention and do not intend to get familiar withit or any other phosphate or other ty0pe additive, but a lot of those products that kill off red slime and lower phosphates do a lot more behind the scenes that is not readily noticeable, such as effect beneficial bacteria etc......NOt saying that products does or donp;t, but I would address the problem why they go high to begin with and rectify that. I do not know how Blue Life product really works but I know how other work. Take phosphate sponges or things like phosban. They contain chemicals called iron oxides and iron hydroxides. They are almost insoluble in water. In contact with phosphates in solution washing over them (aquarium water) they bond with phosphates and create also insoluble iron phosphates on the crystal surface. When phosban is used up and all iron oxide is covered with iron phosphate you simply remove the media from the reactor or a filter bag and replace with the new media... In effect these products REMOVE phosphates from water column. Unfortunatelly, some iron ions does go to the water, but is it not as harmfull as the aluminium ions used for the same purpose in some other products made of alumina (Al2O3) like PhosGuard. Here is an article about toxicity of aluminium in reef tank: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...y2003/chem.htm I wonder if there is any similar article about toxicity of iron ;-) But that is why the question "what is inside Blue Life?" is important... |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
You make a good point but what are sources of phosphate ?
Water, bacteria, feces, uneaten food,frozen fish food, algae, fish slime....YIKES ! I'll get to the bottom of it sooner or later, however maintaining a high Phos level for an extended period of time can be just as detrimental, I think. I don't think you can compare Cyanobacteria products with this one because they do other documented things that ARE undesirable. (like kill of beneficial bacteria) I do wish I had more info on this product. If I see something bad happen, I'll post it. SO far everything's ok. http://www.algone.com/phosphates.php "Tristan" wrote in message ... I would be looking at how and why my phosphates got to where they are than looking for a solution to a problem that at most seems like a temporary bandaide. I am not familiar with the product you mention and do not intend to get familiar withit or any other phosphate or other ty0pe additive, but a lot of those products that kill off red slime and lower phosphates do a lot more behind the scenes that is not readily noticeable, such as effect beneficial bacteria etc......NOt saying that products does or donp;t, but I would address the problem why they go high to begin with and rectify that. Just my opinion On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:45:09 GMT, "TheRock" wrote: "Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:tGqdh.5440$sM2.3344@trndny05... OK, Just did a test a little over 2 hours later 10:15pm and Phosphates are almost not detectable. WOW ! I'll test again tomorrow night. Actually bought it he http://www.fragfarmer.com/home.php $20 plus ship So far looking good...again all fish and corals are fine. Do you have some soft corals like toadstool Sarcophyton coral ? They react unhealthy to poisoning with aluminium ions... Yes 2 Sarcophyton frags. I just cut a monster 3 months ago. Traded 4 kept 2. They look fine. ZERO PHOSPHATES TODAY !!! This stuff works great. All water params are the same, including Copper and Iron. ( I tested for everything I had a kit for ) 2 THUMBS UP (for now) |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"George Patterson" wrote in message news:UbKdh.5507$sM2.2204@trndny05... TheRock wrote: ( I tested for everything I had a kit for ) What testing kit do you have? George Patterson Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are. Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Inc.: Nitrate, Ammonia, Nitrite, Phosphate and Calcium tests. Seachem: Iron and Copper Jungle Quick dip Aquarium multi tests Red Sea pH and ALK |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"TheRock" wrote in message news:VJHdh.5493$sM2.3323@trndny05...
So far looking good...again all fish and corals are fine. Do you have some soft corals like toadstool Sarcophyton coral ? They react unhealthy to poisoning with aluminium ions... Yes 2 Sarcophyton frags. I wonder how are your corals doing today, after couple of days since first dose of Phosphate Control... Any signs of change in looks/behaviour? |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:VJHdh.5493$sM2.3323@trndny05... So far looking good...again all fish and corals are fine. Do you have some soft corals like toadstool Sarcophyton coral ? They react unhealthy to poisoning with aluminium ions... Yes 2 Sarcophyton frags. I wonder how are your corals doing today, after couple of days since first dose of Phosphate Control... Any signs of change in looks/behaviour? My yellow polyps closed up for about 1-1/2 days. They are back to normal now. It may be because they were in direct stream when I was adding this stuff. But everything else is fine. 2 Sarcophyton Ton of Zoanthus ...Yellow, green, blue, brown Starburst Polyp Goniopora - Almost 1 year old (nice pink with purple mouths) Candy Cane Ricordea Mushrooms Red Mushrooms blastomussa merletti Clavularia Glove Polyps And a few misc Acropora I believe the culprit for the High Phosphates to begin with is the water I have been adding. I'm about 5 months overdue in changing my RO/DI filters and media. |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"TheRock" wrote in message news:Qhzeh.290$Et5.56@trndny07...
I wonder how are your corals doing today, after couple of days since first dose of Phosphate Control... Any signs of change in looks/behaviour? My yellow polyps closed up for about 1-1/2 days. They are back to normal now. It may be because they were in direct stream when I was adding this stuff. But everything else is fine. 2 Sarcophyton Ton of Zoanthus ...Yellow, green, blue, brown Starburst Polyp Goniopora - Almost 1 year old (nice pink with purple mouths) Candy Cane Ricordea Mushrooms Red Mushrooms blastomussa merletti Clavularia Glove Polyps And a few misc Acropora I believe the culprit for the High Phosphates to begin with is the water I have been adding. I'm about 5 months overdue in changing my RO/DI filters and media. I have found some specific info about this product on this forum: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=972723 http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=444338 For some reason, chemistry experts there are not happy with the idea of leaving phosphates in the tank (as sediments) and prefer usage removable solid and porous filter media. They recommend watching your carbonate hardness because this product might precipitate carbonates as well as phosphates from your water column... Also, elevated Lanthanum levels in the water might cause building this element together with calcium into the coral skeletons and coraline with unpredictable results... But it was pointed out to me that there is an alternative to the messy ferric oxide products like Phosban: PHOSaR made by Warner Marine is made to be like granulated carbon: it does not need the reactor, can be used like carbon in a filter bag... http://www.warnermarine.com/indexsite.html |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"Pszemol" wrote in message
... "TheRock" wrote in message news:Qhzeh.290$Et5.56@trndny07... I wonder how are your corals doing today, after couple of days since first dose of Phosphate Control... Any signs of change in looks/behaviour? My yellow polyps closed up for about 1-1/2 days. They are back to normal now. It may be because they were in direct stream when I was adding this stuff. But everything else is fine. 2 Sarcophyton Ton of Zoanthus ...Yellow, green, blue, brown Starburst Polyp Goniopora - Almost 1 year old (nice pink with purple mouths) Candy Cane Ricordea Mushrooms Red Mushrooms blastomussa merletti Clavularia Glove Polyps And a few misc Acropora I believe the culprit for the High Phosphates to begin with is the water I have been adding. I'm about 5 months overdue in changing my RO/DI filters and media. I have found some specific info about this product on this forum: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=972723 http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=444338 For some reason, chemistry experts there are not happy with the idea of leaving phosphates in the tank (as sediments) and prefer usage removable solid and porous filter media. They recommend watching your carbonate hardness because this product might precipitate carbonates as well as phosphates from your water column... Also, elevated Lanthanum levels in the water might cause building this element together with calcium into the coral skeletons and coraline with unpredictable results... But it was pointed out to me that there is an alternative to the messy ferric oxide products like Phosban: PHOSaR made by Warner Marine is made to be like granulated carbon: it does not need the reactor, can be used like carbon in a filter bag... http://www.warnermarine.com/indexsite.html Good find sir ! I guess my feeling on it, is it's a quick fix that I will not use on a regular basis. I believe export via refugium/cheto is a better way than the chemical way. BUT it's nice to have a quick fix. I like the looks of that PHOSaR stuff. Once I get my RO/DI filters and media replaced Phosphate wont be a problem again. Thanks ! |
Blue Life Phosphate Control 1oz
"Pszemol" wrote in message ... "TheRock" wrote in message news:Qhzeh.290$Et5.56@trndny07... I wonder how are your corals doing today, after couple of days since first dose of Phosphate Control... Any signs of change in looks/behaviour? My yellow polyps closed up for about 1-1/2 days. They are back to normal now. It may be because they were in direct stream when I was adding this stuff. But everything else is fine. 2 Sarcophyton Ton of Zoanthus ...Yellow, green, blue, brown Starburst Polyp Goniopora - Almost 1 year old (nice pink with purple mouths) Candy Cane Ricordea Mushrooms Red Mushrooms blastomussa merletti Clavularia Glove Polyps And a few misc Acropora I believe the culprit for the High Phosphates to begin with is the water I have been adding. I'm about 5 months overdue in changing my RO/DI filters and media. I have found some specific info about this product on this forum: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=972723 Boomer...now there's a name I haven't seen in a while. |
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