WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

this what I bought in lights, now what can I have healty wise under
these.



14,000K HQI Metal Halide 300watts (2 x's 150w)............both Blue and
White Lunar Lights 6 each
I have 92 gal corner bowfront
bulbs for this light is DE so i can upgrade the watts?
it also has a proprietary electronic driving system (produce the
highest lumen per watt)
what ever that really means i don't know

It is a Current usa sunpod 36" here is the link so you can see the
configs

http://www.current-usa.com/sunpod.html

Thanks for all help

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

You have 3 watts per gallon. You can keep soft corals.
Some of the easier stony large polyp corals can also be
kept, but be forewarned that this lower light level will
leave such stony corals more at risk, though they may look
nice, and grow, they won't have as much vigor to fight off
infections and such.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Bonita wrote on 1/9/2007 1:08 AM:
this what I bought in lights, now what can I have healty wise under
these.



14,000K HQI Metal Halide 300watts (2 x's 150w)............both Blue and
White Lunar Lights 6 each
I have 92 gal corner bowfront
bulbs for this light is DE so i can upgrade the watts?
it also has a proprietary electronic driving system (produce the
highest lumen per watt)
what ever that really means i don't know

It is a Current usa sunpod 36" here is the link so you can see the
configs

http://www.current-usa.com/sunpod.html

Thanks for all help

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Also since you have two 150 watt small point source
lights, you can put corals up close to those lights, and
gain quite a bit more light, whereas florescent light is
more spread out. MH light rules :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 1/9/2007 12:03 PM:
You have 3 watts per gallon. You can keep soft corals. Some of the
easier stony large polyp corals can also be kept, but be forewarned that
this lower light level will leave such stony corals more at risk, though
they may look nice, and grow, they won't have as much vigor to fight off
infections and such.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Bonita wrote on 1/9/2007 1:08 AM:
this what I bought in lights, now what can I have healty wise under
these.



14,000K HQI Metal Halide 300watts (2 x's 150w)............both Blue and
White Lunar Lights 6 each
I have 92 gal corner bowfront
bulbs for this light is DE so i can upgrade the watts?
it also has a proprietary electronic driving system (produce the
highest lumen per watt)
what ever that really means i don't know

It is a Current usa sunpod 36" here is the link so you can see the
configs

http://www.current-usa.com/sunpod.html

Thanks for all help

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

But it so much easier to have good lighting and not have
to worry about placement of the corals to get more light
to the coral.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 1/9/2007 12:26 PM:
Also since you have two 150 watt small point source lights, you can put
corals up close to those lights, and gain quite a bit more light,
whereas florescent light is more spread out. MH light rules :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 1/9/2007 12:03 PM:
You have 3 watts per gallon. You can keep soft corals. Some of the
easier stony large polyp corals can also be kept, but be forewarned
that this lower light level will leave such stony corals more at risk,
though they may look nice, and grow, they won't have as much vigor to
fight off infections and such.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Bonita wrote on 1/9/2007 1:08 AM:
this what I bought in lights, now what can I have healty wise under
these.



14,000K HQI Metal Halide 300watts (2 x's 150w)............both Blue and
White Lunar Lights 6 each
I have 92 gal corner bowfront
bulbs for this light is DE so i can upgrade the watts?
it also has a proprietary electronic driving system (produce the
highest lumen per watt)
what ever that really means i don't know

It is a Current usa sunpod 36" here is the link so you can see the
configs

http://www.current-usa.com/sunpod.html

Thanks for all help

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Also since you have two 150 watt small point source lights, you can put
corals up close to those lights, and gain quite a bit more light,
whereas florescent light is more spread out. MH light rules :-)

But if you put corals TOO close to the light, and they WILL bleach...

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Add Homonym wrote:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Also since you have two 150 watt small point source lights, you can
put corals up close to those lights, and gain quite a bit more light,
whereas florescent light is more spread out. MH light rules :-)

But if you put corals TOO close to the light, and they WILL bleach...


Yeah, I've heard this. I think there was a recent article in the
"Tropical Fish" rag. They recommended introducing new lightly in
increments rather then just a swap out.

I was planning to radically cut back on the hours of light and then ramp
back up to where I am when I get my new lights.

Don't know if that's necessary, but I figure it won't hurt anything.

--Kurt

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That's rarely a problem. They may not bloom out as much,
but rarely do they really suffer from the increased lighting.

Many a times I've taken corals from low light areas and
put them right under 400watt mh lighting.

It *can* produce a problem, but rarely does.

If you want to play it safe, you can place the corals
lower, and move them up, or reduce lighting , but I'm not
too keen on the idea of the reduce lighting method,
preferring the coral moving method.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



KurtG wrote on 1/9/2007 2:03 PM:
Add Homonym wrote:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Also since you have two 150 watt small point source lights, you can
put corals up close to those lights, and gain quite a bit more light,
whereas florescent light is more spread out. MH light rules :-)

But if you put corals TOO close to the light, and they WILL bleach...


Yeah, I've heard this. I think there was a recent article in the
"Tropical Fish" rag. They recommended introducing new lightly in
increments rather then just a swap out.

I was planning to radically cut back on the hours of light and then ramp
back up to where I am when I get my new lights.

Don't know if that's necessary, but I figure it won't hurt anything.

--Kurt

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Wayne Sallee wrote:
That's rarely a problem. They may not bloom out as much, but rarely do
they really suffer from the increased lighting.


I'm worried about my anemones, but then again, they can move if they
don't like it.

--Kurt

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Yea they will move, and move, and move, and move, and move

and move,

and :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



KurtG wrote on 1/9/2007 3:05 PM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
That's rarely a problem. They may not bloom out as much, but rarely do
they really suffer from the increased lighting.


I'm worried about my anemones, but then again, they can move if they
don't like it.

--Kurt

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Yea they will move, and move, and move, and move, and move

and move,

Mine haven't moved in 4 weeks, and I've only had the tank for 8.
However, I'll need to tear down the tank this week to get the fish out
for treatment of Ich and add additional live rock.

Nothing but fun here .... Free beer if anybody wants to help!

--Kurt

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Yea they will move, and move, and move, and move, and move

and move,

and :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


all to often they move and move and move right into a filter or
powerhead intake...

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Go fishing. Heard it done by quite a few folks on various forums. Get
smallhook and heat and reform to make it as small as is neded, so me
2# test mono and some shrimp. Easy to snatch baited hook out so
worong fish does not get it. If its a veggie eater stick some nori on
the hook. Make sure to pinch in the barb on the hook though.

Add a cold Beer and your set for a bit of amusement. I sure as heck
would hate to have to tear live rock apart to catch a fish.

Are yu handy with making things? Some lexan from big box store and
some weldon glue will do fine for a fish trap or even a soda bottle
with the end cut off and inverted and attached with string or super
glue to form a funnel trap works fine, and is fast and eay to make. Yu
can heat neck somewhat or cut it to make it large enough for target
fish to enter if need be,.


On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:02:47 -0500, Add Homonym
wrote:

KurtG wrote:

Mine haven't moved in 4 weeks, and I've only had the tank for 8.
However, I'll need to tear down the tank this week to get the fish out
for treatment of Ich and add additional live rock.

Nothing but fun here .... Free beer if anybody wants to help!

--Kurt

Fish traps. May take a while before the correct fish gets into the trap,
but it sure beats tearing everything down.

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...product=UL1513



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WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

KurtG wrote:

Mine haven't moved in 4 weeks, and I've only had the tank for 8.
However, I'll need to tear down the tank this week to get the fish out
for treatment of Ich and add additional live rock.

Nothing but fun here .... Free beer if anybody wants to help!

--Kurt

Fish traps. May take a while before the correct fish gets into the trap,
but it sure beats tearing everything down.

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...product=UL1513

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

You can adjust flow on powerheads by trimmning the impeller blades
with a couple of swipes on a file or sandpaper.


On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:26:39 -0500, KurtG
wrote:

Add Homonym wrote:
all to often they move and move and move right into a filter or
powerhead intake...


I finally added 2 peewee 90 gph powerheads, but they have a protective
sleve.

I bought the tank w/ a huge powerhead and it blasted a ritteri into a
watery grave.

--Kurt



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WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Add Homonym wrote:
all to often they move and move and move right into a filter or
powerhead intake...


I finally added 2 peewee 90 gph powerheads, but they have a protective
sleve.

I bought the tank w/ a huge powerhead and it blasted a ritteri into a
watery grave.

--Kurt

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Tristan wrote:

Go fishing.

I used a trap last time, but I don't know my chances of catching all 11
fish.

I thought I'd use the opportunity to add 30# of live rock as well. I
have some nice purple algae that I'd hate to bury, so it makes sense to
just do it all at once.

I think a trap would be less stressful anyway, so I'll try my luck at
that first. I'll be surprised if I get them all.

--Kurt

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

* KurtG wrote, On 1/9/2007 5:26 PM:
Add Homonym wrote:
all to often they move and move and move right into a filter or
powerhead intake...


I finally added 2 peewee 90 gph powerheads, but they have a protective
sleve.

I bought the tank w/ a huge powerhead and it blasted a ritteri into a
watery grave.

--Kurt

One of my anemones got sucked into the protective sleeve.

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Cindy wrote:
One of my anemones got sucked into the protective sleeve.

Thanks! Good to know. Maybe I can wrap the powerhead in some polyester
filter material.

--Kurt

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Get some of those sleeve filter sponges like used on the mag drive
pumps or that they sell for the maxijet powerheads. IIRC Big Als
online sells the maxi jet foam filter sleeves for like 2 for under
$3.


On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:58:09 -0500, KurtG
wrote:

Cindy wrote:
One of my anemones got sucked into the protective sleeve.

Thanks! Good to know. Maybe I can wrap the powerhead in some polyester
filter material.

--Kurt



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"Tristan" wrote in message
...
Tristan" wrote in message
... Looks like those folks
in the reef group are a lot more savy than
ponders are........They see right through you and your
antics.......loser! Give up dumbass your spinning yur wheels if you
think yur gonna **** off those folks as its not gonna happen. Hey
was that two relatives of yours that shot and killed that Tenn. state
cop the other day. Were they headed to your house to visit auntie carol?
Evidently they must have been bringing you your supply of meds
huh........as its sure evident your off them.

Loser
rpm = bye bye Carol

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

"Tristan" wrote in message
...

Well CArol aka zebulon would have to talk about her neighbors ponds.

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

Tristan" wrote in message
...

Yep, and keeps your lousy wortless ass out of it as well.

Carol aka Zebulon aka Andrea Nogales,aka Accounts payable,aka Angel
Devine, aka Rusty, Aka Legion. But no matter how she spells her name
it still comes out with the same meaning overall............ Worthless
dumbass.without a freind in the world she can truly trust or rely on.
Might I suggest you start kissing Jan's backside Carol......hahahaha


On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:49:09 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"BoyPete" wrote in message
...
A 'friendlier' possibility may exist. Room for pond friendships and
OT natter.

http://www.karlsforums.com/forums/vi...ge=1#pid252792
====================
Have you checked this one out yet yourself Pete? All I could see as
an unregistered member was 3 messages. It may be worth joining if the
Admin keeps watch on things.



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Troll and........ b trolled scumbag.......

"Tristan" wrote in message
...
"Tristan" wrote in message
...

Oh so you BOy Pete want to be remembered as a freaking useless
worthless troll and disrupter of usent. Not a problem if thats what
turns you on, as it is quite evident it does not take much toget you
excited since carol turns you on so much!

On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:13:52 -0000, "BoyPete"
wrote:

Tristan wrote:
Yep, and keeps your lousy wortless ass out of it as well.

Carol aka Zebulon aka Andrea Nogales,aka Accounts payable,aka Angel
Devine, aka Rusty, Aka Legion. But no matter how she spells her
name
it still comes out with the same meaning overall............
Worthless
dumbass.without a freind in the world

you forgot me ;)



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"Tristan" wrote in message
...
"Tristan" wrote in message
...

WOW, Gary slaps down Pete the boy............and says he is part of
the problem. Well the hell of it all.......do we really have a rp
memeber with a set of gonads here. Looks like carol is not the only
one with gonads now!

Kids and old ladies eh ... scumbag?

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

"Tristan" wrote in message
...

............trolls kids and old woman.............

What does it take to get it into that thick skull of yours carol your
a freaking DUMBASS. you bitch and copmplain but never ever read. You
do not comprehend whats stated in the news group proposal group and
evidently never paid it any attention on Karlsforum either. so here
it is again so freaking read it dumbass!
QUOTE from Karlsforum:

You are a guest, as a guest you can only see a maximum of 3 posts per
thread.

If you want to see the rest, please click here to register.

End quote.......

Once again CArol your a dumbass


On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:49:09 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"BoyPete" wrote in message
...
A 'friendlier' possibility may exist. Room for pond friendships and
OT natter.

http://www.karlsforums.com/forums/vi...ge=1#pid252792
====================
Have you checked this one out yet yourself Pete? All I could see as
an unregistered member was 3 messages. It may be worth joining if the
Admin keeps watch on things.



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"Tristan" wrote in message
...

And you scumbag troll old ladies and kiddies all day long........ SOD OFF!

What..even at 1045 here Carol aka Zebulon is just getting awake for
her nightly go at flooding and trolling affairs.. Lazy bitch sleeps
most of the day and trolls and spams all night long.




On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:44:50 -0000, "BoyPete"
wrote:

Zëbulon wrote:
"Karl Davis" wrote in message
...
"BoyPete" wrote in message
...
I've briefed him on the troll thing......he's happy to deal with
it if it occurs.

Dreamweaver, my wife can spot a troll from twenty yards away and
lops
there
branches with her legendary chainsaw. :-)

Seriously though you`ll be most welcome and we`ll not feed the
trolls
anything other than tea and cake.
====================
I sent you my choice of user name and await your reply. :-))

10.45pm here. zzzzzzzzzz time. back in morning :)



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"Tristan" wrote in message
...


Yea carol looking for some place to hang your panties once rpm is up
and running huh? Your doomed there bitch. bye bye carol...Must be
onlely in this world without any "real" friends huh CArol? Thank
goodness for those voices in your head.




On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 17:32:54 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"BoyPete" wrote in message
...
Zëbulon wrote:
"BoyPete" wrote in message
...
BTW, I've been trying to get intouch with Gill, but no
response.........can you help? :)
--
ßôyþëtë
=====================
I know she checks here on and off... did you want me to try
emailing
her to let her know you're having a problem reaching her?

PLease :)
--
ßôyþëtë

I just sent a message to Gill and saw the reply from the Forum with my
user name and password. :-))) After dinner I'll see if I can learn to
use it. I see peaceful pond chats on the horizon. ;-)



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"Tristan" wrote in message
...

BITCH SLAP brainless asshole.

Well Roy Tristain aka zebulon would have to talk about his neighbors ponds.


On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:56:19 GMT, Gary Woods
wrote:

"BoyPete" wrote:

A 'friendlier' possibility may exist.

I already have a "friendly" method: Talk about my and others' ponds,
and
studiously and quietly avoid the trolls.

Works surprisingly well for me.

I haven't posted much, because it's been a down summer/fall*, so not
much
happening in my interactions with the pond. Fortunately, it's big
enough
that Nature can manage just fine without me, though the hardy water
lilies
will need serious dividing as early in the spring as I can manage.

*Remodeling by the kitchen fire method. Effective, but NOT
recommended!

Blessed Be,


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at
home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G



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"Add Homonym" wrote in message
...
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Also since you have two 150 watt small point source lights, you can put
corals up close to those lights, and gain quite a bit more light,
whereas florescent light is more spread out. MH light rules :-)

But if you put corals TOO close to the light, and they WILL bleach...

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

"Tristan" wrote in message
...



BITCH SLAP........... take a dose of your own medicine asshole. You troll,
you get trolled. You stop trolling granny, I stop trolling you. ****ing big
hero beating on an old lady. Loser......... scumbag!

I would rather eat dead koi than a crumpet ;-) But I did have some
super tasting shortbread cookies one time at heathrow airport! But I
drank coffe not tea........tea is made to be iced not drank
hot.....any southerner (and roy tristan is not a southerner, he is a
freaking carpet bagging yankee) will tell you iced tea is fine, but
hot tea is not even considered.

yes mam', I understand perfectly fine!! ;-) Hey I am sentimental, I
cried when my chia pet died!

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:26:53 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

Tristan wrote:

hm....someone pass the crumpets please and my cup is empty, but I
prefer coffee! ;-) I sure hope Gary BBQ'd that sucker. A f=good
grilled KOi is better than a grilled or baked bass anyday!

Yeah well as you always have said us Brits have an obsession with tea
and crumpets.....coffee goes just as well too.....the big thing is a
correctly toasted crumpet with the butter melted in before you spread
the butter on top - if you ever make it to this fair land I will make
you tea/coffee and crumpets that will change you mind and you will no
longer vilify it but will come begging for more - lol

OK.....you are not the most sentimental of guys out there....that is
fine....some of us do enjoy this sort of chat/banter......IMNSHO
Walter
was a pet and therefore deserved respect......I kind of got to know
Walter through Gary's posts....now I know that this sort of post is
not
everyone's cup of tea...but it takes all sorts to make up a
community.....if you have no interest in this sort of post you skip
it...but you do not tread on someone's feelings about a lost
friend/pet....blunt enough for you my friend????

Gill



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Tristan" wrote in message
...



BITCH SLAP asshole hero harassing old ladies.

That remains to be seen CArol, dream on bitch dream on.

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 01:21:56 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Lieken" wrote in message
egroups.com...

Marshall wrote:
I would like to see a new group, rec.ponds.moderated, up and
running
without the constant attack from outside.

what about attacks from the inside?
============================='
That wont be possible since the posts will be based on CONTENT. You
and
your friend will not be able to post your usual vitriol.



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Kurt - why are you tearing the tank about for Ich?

Just kill the lights for a day or 2. If you like add a bit of something
like Myaxin or some other ich treatment.

Worked great for me.

~m

"KurtG" wrote in message
...
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Yea they will move, and move, and move, and move, and move

and move,

Mine haven't moved in 4 weeks, and I've only had the tank for 8. However,
I'll need to tear down the tank this week to get the fish out for
treatment of Ich and add additional live rock.

Nothing but fun here .... Free beer if anybody wants to help!

--Kurt

WHAT CAN I HAVE with these lights
 

"Tristan" wrote in message
...

You like this Roy "Tristan" Hauer? You do same to this old lady on
rec.ponds. How come always old ladies? Remembe tthis one ?

"~Roy~" wrote in message
...

Well thats certainly different from the last story on your pump, as
you bitched and moaned because it created problems when it died. Whats
the matter asshole can;t you keep your lies straight anymore? And yu
also claimed to have Little Gianyts that leaked oil into the water,
and also claimed to have Danners, that were great pumps. Seems you
create and make up **** just to say me "yea, me to" and if the truth
was known yu probbably do not have half of what you say in regards to
your posts, you just like to make **** up and lie...........You can;t
even do test strips in wtaer checks correctly and you certainly do
not have a freeaking clue do you?


Go fishing. Heard it done by quite a few folks on various forums. Get
smallhook and heat and reform to make it as small as is neded, so me
2# test mono and some shrimp. Easy to snatch baited hook out so
worong fish does not get it. If its a veggie eater stick some nori on
the hook. Make sure to pinch in the barb on the hook though.

Add a cold Beer and your set for a bit of amusement. I sure as heck
would hate to have to tear live rock apart to catch a fish.

Are yu handy with making things? Some lexan from big box store and
some weldon glue will do fine for a fish trap or even a soda bottle
with the end cut off and inverted and attached with string or super
glue to form a funnel trap works fine, and is fast and eay to make. Yu
can heat neck somewhat or cut it to make it large enough for target
fish to enter if need be,.


On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:02:47 -0500, Add Homonym
wrote:

KurtG wrote:

Mine haven't moved in 4 weeks, and I've only had the tank for 8.
However, I'll need to tear down the tank this week to get the fish
out
for treatment of Ich and add additional live rock.

Nothing but fun here .... Free beer if anybody wants to help!

--Kurt

Fish traps. May take a while before the correct fish gets into the
trap,
but it sure beats tearing everything down.

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...product=UL1513



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"Tristan" wrote in message
...

Whoch old gran mother this one was Tristan, eh? Same old granny?

"Roy" wrote in message
...

A jackass in every sock puppet collection .......huh ? So
mr/mrs/ms renegade sock puppet, yu need to run on home to your momma
mrs Roy before someone reaches out and busts your stupid
ass for you........go on with you , go tell Carol she is caling
you.......dumbass!
Get some of those sleeve filter sponges like used on the mag drive
pumps or that they sell for the maxijet powerheads. IIRC Big Als
online sells the maxi jet foam filter sleeves for like 2 for under
$3.


On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:58:09 -0500, KurtG
wrote:

Cindy wrote:
One of my anemones got sucked into the protective sleeve.

Thanks! Good to know. Maybe I can wrap the powerhead in some
polyester
filter material.

--Kurt



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