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Tristan February 16th 07 03:27 PM

constant algae
 
On 14 Feb 2007 08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff

I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did make a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his point
about that.
For years she has been doing this and then when she's corrected or
told that much more info was needed she whines about how she is being
attacked or when somebody disagrees with her she's being attacked or
that only *my* info is correct. What she doesn't know is that I speak
of facts (which can easily be checked) or when I make an opinion, I
say it's my opinion. She uses her opinion as facts all too often. She
also makes no distinction between them. A newbie would not know the
difference, and many times they need to.
I'm not going to waste anymore space on her, as anyone that actually
reads her rantings can see how she manipulates words, or phrases and
turns it around on the person she is replying to. It's one of her
specialties

snip

It sure is nice to know that I am not seeingthings that are not
there....thank you Tynk thank you Carol has done exactly as you state
and how I and others have perceived for years on end, even back when
she used the nym of Windsong.....Big difference in FACT and OPINION,
and newbies do not have to deal with opinions they need facts first
off. then let em deal with their opinion.







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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Zebulon February 16th 07 03:51 PM

constant algae
 

"Tristan" wrote in message
...
On 14 Feb 2007 08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff

I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did make a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)

==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))

I can't say the same after the "expensive" food experience of last Year. I
should never have taken the advice given me and stayed with the food the
fish thrived on.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*







Tynk February 16th 07 04:08 PM

constant algae
 
On Feb 16, 9:51�am, Z�bulon wrote:
"Tristan" wrote in message

... On 14 Feb 2007 08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff


I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did make a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his point
about that......... * (snip same old BS we've all heard before)


==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... *NUFF SAID! *:-))


NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!


Zëbulon February 16th 07 04:11 PM

constant algae
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 16, 9:51�am, Z�bulon wrote:
"Tristan" wrote in message

... On 14 Feb 2007
08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff


I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did make
a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)


==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish
in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))


NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!
================
THEN STOP CLAIMING I'M GIVING BAD ADVICE! If it was so bad there would be
at least a few complaints over the years. There are none!
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*








Tynk February 16th 07 04:33 PM

constant algae
 
On Feb 16, 10:11�am, Z�bulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

oups.com...
On Feb 16, 9:51?am, Z?bulon wrote:





"Tristan" wrote in message


.. . On 14 Feb 2007
08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:


snip lots of good stuff


I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did make
a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his point
about that......... *(snip same old BS we've all heard before)


==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish
in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))


NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!
================
THEN STOP CLAIMING I'M GIVING BAD ADVICE! *If it was so bad there would be
at least a few complaints over the years. There are none!


Bad memory going on or what!?
You have been replied to countless times for giving out bad, false or
incomplete information over the years.
If you want to argue this point, do it by emailing me directly! Stop
posting this crap on here!
If you don't have a question or some valid information about fish,
don't post it here.
Your reply was just another example of you bait a person into an
argument.
DO IT VIA EMAIL, NOT HERE!



Tristan February 16th 07 04:45 PM

constant algae
 


Of course not, they simply write it off as they are not fool enough
to go head to head with a lunatic that just may show up at their door
wanting to rumble. Sane folks do not normally fool with lunatics.



On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:51:02 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tristan" wrote in message
m...
On 14 Feb 2007 08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff

I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did make a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)
==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))

I can't say the same after the "expensive" food experience of last Year. I
should never have taken the advice given me and stayed with the food the
fish thrived on.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Tristan February 16th 07 04:46 PM

constant algae
 


Correction.....I know of facts she stated that cost folks a fish or
problems.....


On 16 Feb 2007 08:08:03 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

On Feb 16, 9:51?am, Z?bulon wrote:
"Tristan" wrote in message

... On 14 Feb 2007 08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff

I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did make a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)

==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... UFF SAID! :-))


NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Tristan February 16th 07 04:47 PM

constant algae
 
Boils down to fact vrs opinion, and opinions have no basis for merit
and is just what it is, an opinion......certainly not something I
would gamble on! Only a lunatic wold take opinion as gospile, sa
there is enough error with supposed fact........who would be fool
enough to take an opinion !




n Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:11:55 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tynk" wrote in message
legroups.com...
On Feb 16, 9:51?am, Z?bulon wrote:
"Tristan" wrote in message

... On 14 Feb 2007
08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff

I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did make
a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)

==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish
in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))


NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!
================
THEN STOP CLAIMING I'M GIVING BAD ADVICE! If it was so bad there would be
at least a few complaints over the years. There are none!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Zëbulon February 16th 07 05:52 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 16, 10:11�am, Z�bulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

oups.com...
On Feb 16, 9:51?am, Z?bulon wrote:





"Tristan" wrote in message


.. . On 14 Feb 2007
08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:


snip lots of good stuff


I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did
make
a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong
or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his
point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)


==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish
in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))


NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!
================
THEN STOP CLAIMING I'M GIVING BAD ADVICE! If it was so bad there would be
at least a few complaints over the years. There are none!


Bad memory going on or what!?
You have been replied to countless times for giving out bad, false or
incomplete information over the years.

Really? Like the bad advice I gave that you can indeed vacuum the entire
bottom of the tank and there will no ammonia surge? Oh that was BAD advice
at the time right Tynk? Real bad but now we know I was REIGHT since the
bacteria stick to the gravel as I think YOU yourself pointed out recently.
So what was considered BAD advice several years ago is GOOD advice now. :-)
Oh, and what of those undergravel filters I dumped years ago? I was told
that was BAD advice and now that's GOOD advice.... LOL!!! Give it a rest
Tynk.

If you want to argue this point, do it by emailing me directly! Stop

posting this crap on here!

Roy reposted it on rec.ponds and cross-posted it - speak to him about it.
Why tell me? I didn't bring this post up, he did.

If you don't have a question or some valid information about fish,

don't post it here.

Tell Roy.... he brought it up and cross-posted it.

Your reply was just another example of you bait a person into an

argument.
DO IT VIA EMAIL, NOT HERE!

Please complain to the man who dragged this all up to cause just this kind
of aggravation for us both. I forgot all about this message. Are you afraid
to confront him and ask him to stop dragging up your old messages? Expect
him to drag up even more of your past messages.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*










Tristan February 16th 07 07:21 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 


No but I am, and uyour info sucks 99% of the time carol as its YOUR
OPINION.......take the hint, your a ****up plain and simple!

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:52:50 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tynk" wrote in message
legroups.com...
On Feb 16, 10:11?am, Z?bulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

oups.com...
On Feb 16, 9:51?am, Z?bulon wrote:





"Tristan" wrote in message

.. . On 14 Feb 2007
08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff

I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did
make
a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong
or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his
point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)

==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish
in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))

NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!
================
THEN STOP CLAIMING I'M GIVING BAD ADVICE! If it was so bad there would be
at least a few complaints over the years. There are none!

Bad memory going on or what!?
You have been replied to countless times for giving out bad, false or
incomplete information over the years.

Really? Like the bad advice I gave that you can indeed vacuum the entire
bottom of the tank and there will no ammonia surge? Oh that was BAD advice
at the time right Tynk? Real bad but now we know I was REIGHT since the
bacteria stick to the gravel as I think YOU yourself pointed out recently.
So what was considered BAD advice several years ago is GOOD advice now. :-)
Oh, and what of those undergravel filters I dumped years ago? I was told
that was BAD advice and now that's GOOD advice.... LOL!!! Give it a rest
Tynk.

If you want to argue this point, do it by emailing me directly! Stop
posting this crap on here!

Roy reposted it on rec.ponds and cross-posted it - speak to him about it.
Why tell me? I didn't bring this post up, he did.

If you don't have a question or some valid information about fish,
don't post it here.

Tell Roy.... he brought it up and cross-posted it.

Your reply was just another example of you bait a person into an
argument.
DO IT VIA EMAIL, NOT HERE!

Please complain to the man who dragged this all up to cause just this kind
of aggravation for us both. I forgot all about this message. Are you afraid
to confront him and ask him to stop dragging up your old messages? Expect
him to drag up even more of your past messages.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Tynk February 16th 07 09:49 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 
On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?
Your reply was filled with nonsense that had nothing to do with
anything *I* said to you.
Your comment about vacuuming the gravel was that you had recently told
somebody *not* to vacuum during a cycle, which I then pointed out to
you that No, it was right to do so as the nitrifying bacteria adhere
to all surfaces and wouldn't come loose during the vac.
You are trying to twist things around, as usual. I'm not buying it and
anyone who read that thread knows you said that too.
This is so very common of you and it is getting boring, and taking up
too much space.
Stop doing all of this on here and reply (If you feel the need) to me
via email, AND DO NOT TAKE ANYMORE SPACE HERE ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!!!
Stop wasting space with this.



Don Freeman February 16th 07 10:06 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?


Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. Since I placed her
in mine (along with Tristan and all of their sockpuppets), all I see are
others' responses to her. Every once in a while I have to adjust it to take
into account the nym-shifting but it is a small price to pay to keep from
having to weed out all the bull**** to get to the milk.

Best,
Don

--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:
http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html ?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)



Tynk February 16th 07 10:08 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 
Zebulon, Koi-Lo, Uncle Zed, and all the rest of the names you use.....

Just one last thing I've noticed about you and where you post.
I access this group via Google and it lists all the groups you post
to, and the names which you post in (many).
All you do, in all of these groups is argue and cause problems.
I, on the other hand, am simply correcting your errors, or completing
incomplete info you leave on here.
I only have this one screen name, as I have no need to hide behind
several names.
Many of the regs and the highly knowledgeable hobbyists either have
you killfiled or won't even come here anymore because of YOU.
That leaves only a few brave people who will acutally put up with the
crap you put us through when you need to be corrected or finish giving
the info you neglected to.
Don't tell me to put you in my killfile, as you are the one that needs
help with your info. Not always, but over the years it has been often.
You are quite knowledgeable when it comes to Goldfish. I give you all
the credit you deserve there. But when it comes to some other things,
not so much.
It takes a big person to say ok...I did not know that, and learn from
it instead of constantly arguing the same lame information.
Being that you are not that type of person, you don't ever learn. You
refuse to and then argue about it.
I hope this group becomes moderated soon too.
You don't want that to happen to this or the other groups because you
know you will be gone and will have nothing to do with your time.
I for one, can't wait.
The moderated groups I post at are wonderful!
The Freshwater Aquarium group is where all the most knowledgeable
folks that used to post here went to because of you.
That says so much. Every one is sick of your arguing.
Once again, if you want to reply to me DO IT VIA EMAIL!
My email address is right there. You have NO NEED to reply to me here.
If you do, you're a moron.




Tynk February 16th 07 10:16 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 
On Feb 16, 4:06�pm, "Don Freeman" wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:


Insane nonsense snipped


What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?


Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. *Since I placed her
in mine *(along with Tristan and all of their sockpuppets), all I see are
others' responses to her. *Every once in a while I have to adjust it to take
into account the nym-shifting but it is a small price to pay to keep from
having to weed out all the bull**** to get to the milk.

Best,
Don

--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)


Don,
I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.
The only reason I even bother is because of all the newbies out there
who may take the false or incomplete info she gives out and think it's
correct. By the time something goes wrong, they wouldn't know what
caused it or who told them what.
Newbies are bombarded with all sorts of things they are told...whether
wrong or right, they are hit like a ton of bricks and their heads are
left spinning.
You see, when somebody says something that isn't right, and a bunch of
others correct them, then they can assume who's got the right info for
them.
It's like having too much compassion for the newbies in the hobby.



Tristan February 16th 07 10:26 PM

Its about time some see the real Carol and make note of it. Thanks Tynk
 


And its best to kill filter on email addy if it works or not than name
anyhow if kill filters are your choice.
I know I would not be posting anything off topic if it was not for
her incessant need to twist or turn things around and troll totally
innocent groups like she does in the marine reef group just to
supposedly pay folks back for what she deems attacks and
stalking......Glad you seen it for your self. I personally have not
made 99% of rthe posts that has my name behind it.

Only reason her email doe snot work is she does not want to be
contacted or tracked down......thats why she is always nym shifting
and swapping out news servers.....My email is however perfectly
functional, always was always will be, and I return emails too!

Regards





On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:52:50 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tynk" wrote in message
legroups.com...
On Feb 16, 10:11?am, Z?bulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

oups.com...
On Feb 16, 9:51?am, Z?bulon wrote:





"Tristan" wrote in message

.. . On 14 Feb 2007
08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

snip lots of good stuff

I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did
make
a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong
or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his
point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)

==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish
in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))

NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!
================
THEN STOP CLAIMING I'M GIVING BAD ADVICE! If it was so bad there would be
at least a few complaints over the years. There are none!

Bad memory going on or what!?
You have been replied to countless times for giving out bad, false or
incomplete information over the years.

Really? Like the bad advice I gave that you can indeed vacuum the entire
bottom of the tank and there will no ammonia surge? Oh that was BAD advice
at the time right Tynk? Real bad but now we know I was REIGHT since the
bacteria stick to the gravel as I think YOU yourself pointed out recently.
So what was considered BAD advice several years ago is GOOD advice now. :-)
Oh, and what of those undergravel filters I dumped years ago? I was told
that was BAD advice and now that's GOOD advice.... LOL!!! Give it a rest
Tynk.

If you want to argue this point, do it by emailing me directly! Stop
posting this crap on here!

Roy reposted it on rec.ponds and cross-posted it - speak to him about it.
Why tell me? I didn't bring this post up, he did.

If you don't have a question or some valid information about fish,
don't post it here.

Tell Roy.... he brought it up and cross-posted it.

Your reply was just another example of you bait a person into an
argument.
DO IT VIA EMAIL, NOT HERE!

Please complain to the man who dragged this all up to cause just this kind
of aggravation for us both. I forgot all about this message. Are you afraid
to confront him and ask him to stop dragging up your old messages? Expect
him to drag up even more of your past messages.



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Don Freeman February 16th 07 10:31 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 16, 4:06?pm, "Don Freeman" wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:


Insane nonsense snipped


What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?


Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. Since I placed her


==============[ quote ]====================================
Don,
I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.
The only reason I even bother is because of all the newbies out there
who may take the false or incomplete info she gives out and think it's
correct. By the time something goes wrong, they wouldn't know what
caused it or who told them what.
Newbies are bombarded with all sorts of things they are told...whether
wrong or right, they are hit like a ton of bricks and their heads are
left spinning.
You see, when somebody says something that isn't right, and a bunch of
others correct them, then they can assume who's got the right info for
them.
It's like having too much compassion for the newbies in the hobby.
=============[ end quote ]===================================

I understand and appreciate why you are doing it, but there comes a point of
diminishing returns if it just sounds like the two of you are arguing (and
admittedly I'm no innocent, I've been involved in flame wars that could melt
diamonds). Anyone just stumbling upon the group at that time wouldn't know
which one was the credible party.
If you don't want to ignore her bad advice, countering it with the truth (as
you do) is fine. But you will do your frustration level a big favor by
ignoring her rants.

I pretty much had her pegged after reading no more then 4 of her posts, so I
think you will find that new readers of the group might not have as much
trouble as you think doing the same. One of the main caveats of USENET has
always been to read a group for a while before posting so as to figure out
the mores and morays (pun intended) of the group, and, by extrapolation,
figure out who are the signal producers and who are just the ******s that
produce noise.

Best,
Don
--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:
http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html ?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)



Zebulon February 16th 07 10:37 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?


What part don't YOU understand and why are you always so rude? I didn't
repost your message = Tristan did.

What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?


No, but you must be to think I'm Roy Tristan Hauer who reposted your
message - and why are you always so rude and nasty?

snip
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*





Zëbulon February 16th 07 10:40 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 16, 4:06�pm, "Don Freeman" wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:


Insane nonsense snipped


What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?


Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. Since I placed her
in mine (along with Tristan and all of their sockpuppets), all I see are
others' responses to her. Every once in a while I have to adjust it to
take
into account the nym-shifting but it is a small price to pay to keep from
having to weed out all the bull**** to get to the milk.

Best,
Don

--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt
like:http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)


Don,
I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.
The only reason I even bother is because of all the newbies out there
who may take the false or incomplete info she gives out and think it's
correct.

* You've asked to provide PROOF of your accusations and have yet to provide
any. Nor any proof of any harm anything I posted here did to anyone's fish.
You left for the moderated group so why are you still here being RUDE to me?

By the time something goes wrong, they wouldn't know what
caused it or who told them what.

* Where is the proof? What deadly advice did I give someone?

Newbies are bombarded with all sorts of things they are told...whether
wrong or right, they are hit like a ton of bricks and their heads are
left spinning.

* I know that.

You see, when somebody says something that isn't right, and a bunch of
others correct them, then they can assume who's got the right info for
them.
It's like having too much compassion for the newbies in the hobby.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*







Zebulon February 16th 07 10:51 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
ps.com...
Zebulon, Koi-Lo, Uncle Zed, and all the rest of the names you use.....


Better learn to read headers Tynk. Make sure before you accuse. Why are
you back here when you fled to a moderated forum?

Just one last thing I've noticed about you and where you post.
I access this group via Google and it lists all the groups you post
to, and the names which you post in (many).


Oh really....... Roy "Tristan" Hauer proved and admitted the messages were
not from my account right on a reef group. Do don't want to hear that do
you?

All you do, in all of these groups is argue and cause problems.


What are YOU doing now? Pot Tynk calling Kettle Zebulon black? When I
posted here about my bettas and we had a disagreement you have been a bitch
to me ever since! You've been just as rude to other posters so playing miss
innocent wont get it.

I, on the other hand, am simply correcting your errors, or completing
incomplete info you leave on here.


What's an error for you may not be an error for me since I'm sure we don't
have the same fish, the same tanks, the same set-ups. What works for you
may not work for me and vice versa. remember the deal with the UGFs and
Vacuuming the entire gravel bed. Oh man.... was I ever told I was WRONG
back then. Geeze... I've been proven to be RIGHT and you never mention that
or toss that back at me... I wonder why?

Why don't you acknowledge this Tynk? Why is it you're allowed to be as rude
to people as you please but I'm supposed to be meek and mild, passive and
never but never defend my position - which has been proven CORRECT in time?

snip
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*





Gill Passman February 16th 07 10:52 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 
Zëbulon wrote:


I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.


Ok not going to bother replying to the rest but believe me it is very
easy to get in touch with Tynk via the valid email address she uses here
(afterall she has no need to hide from anything - like a few others of
us don't either).....I suggest you open one of her messages and then cut
and paste the "from" info.....write your email and hit send.....if it is
abusive then maybe she will do what most sane people do and ignore
it....if not, then as she invited you to mail her I'm reasonably sure
that she will respond.....However, one word of warning - Tynk actually
has a real life that doesn't revolve around Usenet every second of her
waking day - so there might be a bit of a delay in getting a reply
(sometimes days or weeks but that is entirely reasonable).....but then
the same applies to all of us who have a real life as well....If your
emails to Tynk bounce it is just because you have made a typo....

Gill






Zebulon February 16th 07 10:55 PM

Its about time some see the real Carol and make note of it. Thanks Tynk
 

"Tristan" wrote in message
...
Only reason her email doe snot work is she does not want to be
contacted or tracked down......thats why she is always nym shifting
and swapping out news servers.....My email is however perfectly
functional, always was always will be, and I return emails too!

============
Did you already admitted the messages are not from my account:

"Tristan" wrote in message
...
They are forged posts injected through a news service company out of
Seattle Washington, by the name of Alt.net, which is actually
altopia.com
If your looking to kill filter posts kill filter on email addy not
user.......results are much better. I have spent a bit of time on the
phone with Bellsouth as well as ATT and they assure me those posts are
not going through their servers. They stated they are indeed forged to
appear like they originate from Bellsouth, and then they pointed the
finger to Altopia.com and their news server company alt.net!


--- And here's one from *you* affirmed by Earthlink that it's from your
account, using my NYM admitting using Hipcrime to attack the groups:

"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
...
X-Trace: newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net 1149888054 4.255.247.229 (Fri, 09
Jun 2006 14:20:54 PDT)

Gonna have to try and make me a group
delete me a group or groups
"moderate" me a few groups
keep me a set of messages in existence in a set bunch of groups...

This program has all the makings of a lot of fun and
entertainment......yet it still retains all the common use items a
regular news reader possess.......its just totally awesome.

Move over Agent, HipCrimes is coming online!


Whats that you say Carol Gulley? hahahahahaha Oh I think I hear your
buddy -ED whining in the back ground there Carol.



Tristan February 16th 07 10:56 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

Just like you trashed and corrupted that post made with the sick koi
with pics., YOU and you alone trashed that post and in all reality it
was good that you did as it sent them to me and one other pereson here
by way of email.........one less individual to try and slide on to
your path od destructoin carol, they seen the light really quick with
your harsh and sarcastic replies espeically when yu were told yu were
wrong. You literally fell apart like a lunatic iin need of their
drugs.


On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:40:44 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tynk" wrote in message
legroups.com...
On Feb 16, 4:06?pm, "Don Freeman" wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?

Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. Since I placed her
in mine (along with Tristan and all of their sockpuppets), all I see are
others' responses to her. Every once in a while I have to adjust it to
take
into account the nym-shifting but it is a small price to pay to keep from
having to weed out all the bull**** to get to the milk.

Best,
Don

--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt
like:http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)

Don,
I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.
The only reason I even bother is because of all the newbies out there
who may take the false or incomplete info she gives out and think it's
correct.

* You've asked to provide PROOF of your accusations and have yet to provide
any. Nor any proof of any harm anything I posted here did to anyone's fish.
You left for the moderated group so why are you still here being RUDE to me?

By the time something goes wrong, they wouldn't know what
caused it or who told them what.

* Where is the proof? What deadly advice did I give someone?

Newbies are bombarded with all sorts of things they are told...whether
wrong or right, they are hit like a ton of bricks and their heads are
left spinning.

* I know that.

You see, when somebody says something that isn't right, and a bunch of
others correct them, then they can assume who's got the right info for
them.
It's like having too much compassion for the newbies in the hobby.



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Tristan February 16th 07 10:58 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 


WHAT....god forbide, carol never screws up.......if she said the
emails bounce then they probably bounced! Least we forget who were
dealing with her, Queen Bee CArol her self who lowers her standards
just to appear on the same usenet groups with us mere mortals.

;-)


On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:52:38 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

Zëbulon wrote:


I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.

Ok not going to bother replying to the rest but believe me it is very
easy to get in touch with Tynk via the valid email address she uses here
(afterall she has no need to hide from anything - like a few others of
us don't either).....I suggest you open one of her messages and then cut
and paste the "from" info.....write your email and hit send.....if it is
abusive then maybe she will do what most sane people do and ignore
it....if not, then as she invited you to mail her I'm reasonably sure
that she will respond.....However, one word of warning - Tynk actually
has a real life that doesn't revolve around Usenet every second of her
waking day - so there might be a bit of a delay in getting a reply
(sometimes days or weeks but that is entirely reasonable).....but then
the same applies to all of us who have a real life as well....If your
emails to Tynk bounce it is just because you have made a typo....

Gill







-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Tristan February 16th 07 11:00 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 


Hmmmmmmm
Carol calling Tynk rude and nasty is like the pot calling the kettle
black......duh.......carol you really do not have the foggiest idea
that you need help do you?Trust us, you need help, and you need it
quick! today, right now, not tomorrow!


On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:37:16 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tynk" wrote in message
egroups.com...
On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?

What part don't YOU understand and why are you always so rude? I didn't
repost your message = Tristan did.

What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?

No, but you must be to think I'm Roy Tristan Hauer who reposted your
message - and why are you always so rude and nasty?

snip



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Zëbulon February 16th 07 11:10 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
Zëbulon wrote:


I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.


Ok not going to bother replying to the rest but believe me it is very easy
to get in touch with Tynk via the valid email address she uses here SNIP

==========================
Gill... You mis-snipped. I didn't try to e-mail her. I have no reason to
contact her. Roy Tristan Hauer re-posted her old message to stir the pot.
I'd put that all in the past already, especially since the UGF, Frozen-Food
and Vacuuming up bacteria issues where in time I was proven CORRECT. At the
time I was told how "wrong" I was..... how things change over the years.
:-)
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*





Gill Passman February 16th 07 11:16 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 
Zëbulon wrote:

Zëbulon wrote:


I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.



==========================
Gill... You mis-snipped. I didn't try to e-mail her. I have no reason
to contact her.


Don't think I did....but then who can tell but the tone of the post that
I took the snip from looked very much like one of yours.....so are you
telling me that you didn't respond to Don.....certainly looked like you
did.....but OK if you want to disclaim the points that you made to him
it's fine by me....

Gill


Tristan February 16th 07 11:20 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy but CArols backhands Tynk a good one..stay tuned!
 
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:51:07 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tynk" wrote in message
groups.com...
Zebulon, Koi-Lo, Uncle Zed, and all the rest of the names you use.....

Better learn to read headers Tynk. Make sure before you accuse. Why are
you back here when you fled to a moderated forum?

Just one last thing I've noticed about you and where you post.
I access this group via Google and it lists all the groups you post
to, and the names which you post in (many).

Oh really....... Roy "Tristan" Hauer proved and admitted the messages were
not from my account right on a reef group. Do don't want to hear that do
you?
Yes, but I also stated those were also traced to your alt.net account
and were created with hipcrime and regardless, you made the posts no
matter what the headers showed. Quit being so selective in what yu
read and post carol you trolled you trashed an dyou have the alt.net
account, proven by 4 independant news service providers that the IP
used is from your IP.......your a fool.........

All you do, in all of these groups is argue and cause problems.

What are YOU doing now? Pot Tynk calling Kettle Zebulon black? When I
posted here about my bettas and we had a disagreement you have been a bitch
to me ever since! You've been just as rude to other posters so playing miss
innocent wont get it.

I, on the other hand, am simply correcting your errors, or completing
incomplete info you leave on here.

What's an error for you may not be an error for me since I'm sure we don't
have the same fish, the same tanks, the same set-ups. What works for you
may not work for me and vice versa. remember the deal with the UGFs and
Vacuuming the entire gravel bed. Oh man.... was I ever told I was WRONG
back then. Geeze... I've been proven to be RIGHT and you never mention that
or toss that back at me... I wonder why?

Why don't you acknowledge this Tynk? Why is it you're allowed to be as rude
to people as you please but I'm supposed to be meek and mild, passive and
never but never defend my position - which has been proven CORRECT in time?

snip



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Don Freeman February 16th 07 11:20 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
Zëbulon wrote:

Zëbulon wrote:


I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.


==========================
Gill... You mis-snipped. I didn't try to e-mail her. I have no reason
to contact her.


Don't think I did....but then who can tell but the tone of the post that I
took the snip from looked very much like one of yours.....so are you
telling me that you didn't respond to Don.....certainly looked like you
did.....but OK if you want to disclaim the points that you made to him
it's fine by me....


Actually you did misattribute the quotes but, notwithstanding, your advice
to Z. is still good. Bottom line she should take her personal vendetta off
of the newsgroup.



Tristan February 16th 07 11:24 PM

Its about time some see the real Carol and make note of it. Thanks Tynk
 


Get real dumbass........your a child in a big womans dress, now act yr
age instead of your IQ, you foaming at the mouth lying sack of word
twisting crap from the backwoods of TN.....


On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:55:26 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tristan" wrote in message
m...
Only reason her email doe snot work is she does not want to be
contacted or tracked down......thats why she is always nym shifting
and swapping out news servers.....My email is however perfectly
functional, always was always will be, and I return emails too!
============
Did you already admitted the messages are not from my account:
NO BUT YOU MADE THEM AS THEY HAVE BEEN TRACED TO YOUR IP CAROL YOU
USED HIPCRIME TO MAKE THE POSTS VIA ALT.NET.....YOU DUMBASS!

"Tristan" wrote in message
m...
They are forged posts injected through a news service company out of
Seattle Washington, by the name of Alt.net, which is actually
altopia.com
If your looking to kill filter posts kill filter on email addy not
user.......results are much better. I have spent a bit of time on the
phone with Bellsouth as well as ATT and they assure me those posts are
not going through their servers. They stated they are indeed forged to
appear like they originate from Bellsouth, and then they pointed the
finger to Altopia.com and their news server company alt.net!

--- And here's one from *you* affirmed by Earthlink that it's from your
account, using my NYM admitting using Hipcrime to attack the groups:

"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
...
X-Trace: newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net 1149888054 4.255.247.229 (Fri, 09
Jun 2006 14:20:54 PDT)

Gonna have to try and make me a group
delete me a group or groups
"moderate" me a few groups
keep me a set of messages in existence in a set bunch of groups...

This program has all the makings of a lot of fun and
entertainment......yet it still retains all the common use items a
regular news reader possess.......its just totally awesome.

Move over Agent, HipCrimes is coming online!


Sure got you all wound up didn't it. and it continues to do so, so my
mission on that post was more than what I call sucessfull. You dumbass
bimbo.......Nothing there is proof of a darn thing carol, so dream on,
you loose that round!...Once again dumbass!

Whats that you say Carol Gulley? hahahahahaha Oh I think I hear your
buddy -ED whining in the back ground there Carol.



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Gill Passman February 16th 07 11:27 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 
Don Freeman wrote:


Actually you did misattribute the quotes but, notwithstanding, your advice
to Z. is still good. Bottom line she should take her personal vendetta off
of the newsgroup.



OK I'm happy to stand corrected.....but the sentiments remain the same......

Gill

cat daddy February 16th 07 11:58 PM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
Don Freeman wrote:


Actually you did misattribute the quotes but, notwithstanding,

your advice
to Z. is still good. Bottom line she should take her personal

vendetta off
of the newsgroup.



OK I'm happy to stand corrected.....but the sentiments remain the

same......

Gill


It's not your fault, Gill. That's been one of Carol's classic
annoyances and classic hoofprints; putting quote characters in front
of her own words and leaving the words she's quoting blank.



Gill Passman February 17th 07 12:15 AM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 
cat daddy wrote:
"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...




It's not your fault, Gill. That's been one of Carol's classic
annoyances and classic hoofprints; putting quote characters in front
of her own words and leaving the words she's quoting blank.



Actually since making my apologetic post I've read it over and
over....and I know that I responded to the correct question.....but then
that is the whole thing over and over.....to be quite honest I just want
to get back to normality and am very tired about this.....

Do you know....having only lurked on rec.ponds for 2 - 3 years I never
realised that you were a hobbyist having seen you trashed so many
times.....I am extremely happy to know that you have a vested interest
in all of this rather than being a trolling hanger on (which I had been
led to believe) - I kind of got that when you posted on ngp in support
of rpm....but haven't had the opportunity to say it before....

Looking forward to exchanging ideas and discussions with you on a
moderated group free of all of this cr*p - although very sad that it has
come to this as being our only option

Take care
Gill


Jen February 17th 07 12:38 AM

constant algae
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 16, 10:11?am, Z?bulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

oups.com...
On Feb 16, 9:51?am, Z?bulon wrote:





"Tristan" wrote in message


.. . On 14 Feb 2007
08:00:37 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:


snip lots of good stuff


I don't exactly like or agree with how Tristan posts about Koi-Lo,
Zebulon or whatever name she is using at the moment, but he did
make
a
point that was right. She has quite the habit of giving out wrong
or
(so often) incomplete information and wanted to exapand on his
point
about that......... (snip same old BS we've all heard before)


==============================
And yet not one person has ever complained I harmed or killed their fish
in
all these years. NOT ONE! ....... NUFF SAID! :-))


NO ONE EVER SAID YOU DID!!!!!
Stop trying to bait an argument!
================
THEN STOP CLAIMING I'M GIVING BAD ADVICE! If it was so bad there would be
at least a few complaints over the years. There are none!


Bad memory going on or what!?
You have been replied to countless times for giving out bad, false or
incomplete information over the years.
If you want to argue this point, do it by emailing me directly! Stop
posting this crap on here!
If you don't have a question or some valid information about fish,
don't post it here.
Your reply was just another example of you bait a person into an
argument.
DO IT VIA EMAIL, NOT HERE!

Not again! Why do you bother answering? Jusst killfile the person you are
arguing with, so the rest of us don't have to see it.

Jen




Jen February 17th 07 12:38 AM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?
Your reply was filled with nonsense that had nothing to do with
anything *I* said to you.
Your comment about vacuuming the gravel was that you had recently told
somebody *not* to vacuum during a cycle, which I then pointed out to
you that No, it was right to do so as the nitrifying bacteria adhere
to all surfaces and wouldn't come loose during the vac.
You are trying to twist things around, as usual. I'm not buying it and
anyone who read that thread knows you said that too.
This is so very common of you and it is getting boring, and taking up
too much space.
Stop doing all of this on here and reply (If you feel the need) to me
via email, AND DO NOT TAKE ANYMORE SPACE HERE ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!!!
Stop wasting space with this.



Well, just stop answering!!



Jen February 17th 07 12:40 AM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Don Freeman" wrote in message
...

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?


Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. Since I placed her
in mine (along with Tristan and all of their sockpuppets), all I see are
others' responses to her. Every once in a while I have to adjust it to
take into account the nym-shifting but it is a small price to pay to keep
from having to weed out all the bull**** to get to the milk.


I'm so glad there at least some people here that see sense. Hopefully he
takes your good advice.

Jen



Jen February 17th 07 12:45 AM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 16, 4:06?pm, "Don Freeman" wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:


Insane nonsense snipped


What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?


Tynk,
Take you own advice, or even better use your killfile. Since I placed her
in mine (along with Tristan and all of their sockpuppets), all I see are
others' responses to her. Every once in a while I have to adjust it to
take
into account the nym-shifting but it is a small price to pay to keep from
having to weed out all the bull**** to get to the milk.

Best,
Don

--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt
like:http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)


Don,
I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.
The only reason I even bother is because of all the newbies out there
who may take the false or incomplete info she gives out and think it's
correct. By the time something goes wrong, they wouldn't know what
caused it or who told them what.
Newbies are bombarded with all sorts of things they are told...whether
wrong or right, they are hit like a ton of bricks and their heads are
left spinning.
You see, when somebody says something that isn't right, and a bunch of
others correct them, then they can assume who's got the right info for
them.


I'm fairly new here and I don't know who to believe. But when you go on
arguing like that and accuse people of lying, it tends to make me think
you're the one giving bad info. Everyone has their own opinions on things,
and they all have a right to it. Newbies just have to look at different
opinions and ideas on things and hopefully come up with the right
conclusion. The best you can do is to give your own advice, and not bad
mouth others.

Jen



Zëbulon February 17th 07 12:50 AM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
Zëbulon wrote:

Zëbulon wrote:


I wish I could reply to her via email. Trust me, I've tried.
It doesn't go through.


==========================
Gill... You mis-snipped. I didn't try to e-mail her. I have no reason
to contact her.


Don't think I did....but then who can tell but the tone of the post that I
took the snip from looked very much like one of yours.....so are you
telling me that you didn't respond to Don.....certainly looked like you
did.....but OK if you want to disclaim the points that you made to him
it's fine by me....


Gill


=================
What I SAID:

"Gill... You mis-snipped. I didn't try to e-mail her. I have no reason to
contact her. Roy Tristan Hauer re-posted her old message to stir the pot.
I'd put that all in the past already, especially since the UGF, Frozen-Food
and Vacuuming up bacteria issues where in time I was proven CORRECT. At the
time I was told how "wrong" I was..... how things change over the years."

I said nothing about Don.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*





Zebulon February 17th 07 12:54 AM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
cat daddy wrote:
"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...




It's not your fault, Gill. That's been one of Carol's classic
annoyances and classic hoofprints; putting quote characters in front
of her own words and leaving the words she's quoting blank.



Actually since making my apologetic post I've read it over and over....and
I know that I responded to the correct question.....but then that is the
whole thing over and over.....to be quite honest I just want to get back
to normality and am very tired about this.....


We're all tired about it and yet it does end.

Do you know....having only lurked on rec.ponds for 2 - 3 years I never
realised that you were a hobbyist having seen you trashed so many
times.....


Many people have been trashed on rec.ponds since the troll invasion.

I am extremely happy to know that you have a vested interest
in all of this rather than being a trolling hanger on (which I had been
led to believe) - I kind of got that when you posted on ngp in support of
rpm....but haven't had the opportunity to say it before....


He only insulted me, following me to AFN. It's all on Google.

Looking forward to exchanging ideas and discussions with you on a
moderated group free of all of this cr*p - although very sad that it has
come to this as being our only option


What choice do we have?


Take care
Gill


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Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Jen February 17th 07 12:56 AM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
ps.com...
Zebulon, Koi-Lo, Uncle Zed, and all the rest of the names you use.....

Just one last thing I've noticed about you and where you post.
I access this group via Google and it lists all the groups you post
to, and the names which you post in (many).
All you do, in all of these groups is argue and cause problems.
I, on the other hand, am simply correcting your errors, or completing
incomplete info you leave on here.
I only have this one screen name, as I have no need to hide behind
several names.
Many of the regs and the highly knowledgeable hobbyists either have
you killfiled or won't even come here anymore because of YOU.


Not necessarily. It's more because of all this bull**** BETWEEN you all.
That includes your nasty posts.

That leaves only a few brave people who will acutally put up with the
crap you put us through when you need to be corrected or finish giving
the info you neglected to.
Don't tell me to put you in my killfile, as you are the one that needs
help with your info. Not always, but over the years it has been often.
You are quite knowledgeable when it comes to Goldfish. I give you all
the credit you deserve there. But when it comes to some other things,
not so much.
It takes a big person to say ok...I did not know that, and learn from
it instead of constantly arguing the same lame information.
Being that you are not that type of person, you don't ever learn. You
refuse to and then argue about it.
I hope this group becomes moderated soon too.
You don't want that to happen to this or the other groups because you
know you will be gone and will have nothing to do with your time.
I for one, can't wait.
The moderated groups I post at are wonderful!
The Freshwater Aquarium group is where all the most knowledgeable
folks that used to post here went to because of you.
That says so much. Every one is sick of your arguing.


AND YOURS!

Once again, if you want to reply to me DO IT VIA EMAIL!
My email address is right there. You have NO NEED to reply to me here.
If you do, you're a moron.


Take your own advice here.

Jen




Zebulon February 17th 07 12:56 AM

constant algae - I'm not Roy
 

"Jen" wrote in message
...

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 16, 11:52?am, Z?bulon wrote:

Insane nonsense snipped

What part of STOP don't you understand?
What part of REPLY VIA EMAIL don't you understand? Are you a moron?
Your reply was filled with nonsense that had nothing to do with
anything *I* said to you.
Your comment about vacuuming the gravel was that you had recently told
somebody *not* to vacuum during a cycle, which I then pointed out to
you that No, it was right to do so as the nitrifying bacteria adhere
to all surfaces and wouldn't come loose during the vac.
You are trying to twist things around, as usual. I'm not buying it and
anyone who read that thread knows you said that too.
This is so very common of you and it is getting boring, and taking up
too much space.
Stop doing all of this on here and reply (If you feel the need) to me
via email, AND DO NOT TAKE ANYMORE SPACE HERE ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!!!
Stop wasting space with this.



Well, just stop answering!!

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She can have the last word. ;-)
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*






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