Made in China?
 

With all the conflab recently about tainted pet food and
toothpaste imported from China, I started to wonder how toxic the
frozen brine shrimp, bloodworms, etc also manufactured and packaged
there might be to our fish.
I asked at my LFS, and they said that, although made in China,
the brand they carried was "sterilized" (Hmmm.). I note that the
"Frostbites" brand carried by Walmart also originates in China.

Just wondering...
Blair.

Made in China?
 

"blair thompson" wrote in message
...
With all the conflab recently about tainted pet food and
toothpaste imported from China, I started to wonder how toxic the
frozen brine shrimp, bloodworms, etc also manufactured and packaged
there might be to our fish.
I asked at my LFS, and they said that, although made in China,
the brand they carried was "sterilized" (Hmmm.). I note that the
"Frostbites" brand carried by Walmart also originates in China.

Just wondering...
Blair.
========================
I've stopped buying anything edible from China. Sterilizing food doesn't
remove the non-edible and toxic filler products they add to the food. If it
was made in China too it out.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

Made in China?
 

"Reel McKoi" wrote in message
...

"blair thompson" wrote in message
...
With all the conflab recently about tainted pet food and
toothpaste imported from China, I started to wonder how toxic the
frozen brine shrimp, bloodworms, etc also manufactured and packaged
there might be to our fish.
I asked at my LFS, and they said that, although made in China,
the brand they carried was "sterilized" (Hmmm.). I note that the
"Frostbites" brand carried by Walmart also originates in China.

Just wondering...
Blair.
========================
I've stopped buying anything edible from China. Sterilizing food doesn't
remove the non-edible and toxic filler products they add to the food. If
it was made in China too it out.

I agree, but it is impossible now to determine ingredients in say Tetramin
Oranda etc. or for that matter any other brand....they are not required to
indicate where each ingredient comes from, and the same concoction in the
news is in almost all dried fish food.

Made in China?
 

"Telstar" wrote in message
...

I agree, but it is impossible now to determine ingredients in say Tetramin
Oranda etc. or for that matter any other brand....they are not required to
indicate where each ingredient comes from, and the same concoction in the
news is in almost all dried fish food.
====================================
This is so true. Where does it leave us? I'll continue to use the fish
foods I have, but sure wouldn't buy anything made in China.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

Made in China?
 

On Jul 18, 12:01?am, "Reel McKoi" wrote:

====================================
This is so true. Where does it leave us? I'll continue to use the fish
foods I have, but sure wouldn't buy anything made in China.

You also need to consider that just like certain ingredients in foods,
many things are made with "parts" from other countries.
So, even though they're being made in the US, they could actually be
100% non American.
Yrs back we had a '93 Chevy Corsica. Something broke down and needed
replacing. I forget what it was, but the old part was made of metal
and the new part was nearly all plastic, and made in China. Buncha
crap it was, that's for sure.
Refusing to buy anything made in China is going to be quite a
challange.
One thing I won't stop buying, is Hikari frozen fish foods. It's the
best on the market right now.
Even the largest competitor's (Sally's -- San Fran Bay brand) can't
hold a candle to it.
I checked the back of the package and it says "Product of China",
however, above it-- It says Hikari USA...and has a California address.
Without calling the directly, which they do have an 800 # listed, I
don't know whether the ones we have in the US are made in California,
or if the packaging is..or vice versa. It doesn't say.

Made in China?
 

Tynk wrote in news:1184846711.404474.191790@
22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

On Jul 18, 12:01?am, "Reel McKoi" wrote:

====================================
This is so true. Where does it leave us? I'll continue to use the fish
foods I have, but sure wouldn't buy anything made in China.

You also need to consider that just like certain ingredients in foods,
many things are made with "parts" from other countries.
So, even though they're being made in the US, they could actually be
100% non American.
Yrs back we had a '93 Chevy Corsica. Something broke down and needed
replacing. I forget what it was, but the old part was made of metal
and the new part was nearly all plastic, and made in China. Buncha
crap it was, that's for sure.
Refusing to buy anything made in China is going to be quite a
challange.
One thing I won't stop buying, is Hikari frozen fish foods. It's the
best on the market right now.
Even the largest competitor's (Sally's -- San Fran Bay brand) can't
hold a candle to it.
I checked the back of the package and it says "Product of China",
however, above it-- It says Hikari USA...and has a California address.
Without calling the directly, which they do have an 800 # listed, I
don't know whether the ones we have in the US are made in California,
or if the packaging is..or vice versa. It doesn't say.



"Product of China" means that the content is fully Chinese in origin. I
don't think it matters much in the case of Hikari frozen food, there's
almost nothing you need to do to seafood to preserve it, other than freeze
it quickly after processing, and keep your processing machinery clean.

If anyone is interested, melamine was discovered in US commerical fish-farm
feedstock, but didn't cause as much of a stir in that industry, as the
concentrations were much much lower. I don't know of any tropical pellet
or flake maker who has been a part of that supply chain.

In fisheries, the supply chain parties were;
- Ziegler (a feed maker for commercial fisheries, whose tainted product was
a shrimp pellet, which had binders and fillers in it)
- Uniscope (a company which made the binder, and sold it to Ziegler)
- Trembec (a Canadian company which made a resin, containing melamine,
which Uniscope used to make its binder)

If anyone ends up calling their fish food supplier, you can ask if any of
these three companies are suppliers to your food vendor.

Regards,
DaveZ

Made in China?
 

On Jul 19, 9:03?am, atomweaver wrote:
Tynk wrote in news:1184846711.404474.191790@
22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:





On Jul 18, 12:01?am, "Reel McKoi" wrote:

====================================
This is so true. Where does it leave us? I'll continue to use the fish
foods I have, but sure wouldn't buy anything made in China.

You also need to consider that just like certain ingredients in foods,
many things are made with "parts" from other countries.
So, even though they're being made in the US, they could actually be
100% non American.
Yrs back we had a '93 Chevy Corsica. Something broke down and needed
replacing. I forget what it was, but the old part was made of metal
and the new part was nearly all plastic, and made in China. Buncha
crap it was, that's for sure.
Refusing to buy anything made in China is going to be quite a
challange.
One thing I won't stop buying, is Hikari frozen fish foods. It's the
best on the market right now.
Even the largest competitor's (Sally's -- San Fran Bay brand) can't
hold a candle to it.
I checked the back of the package and it says "Product of China",
however, above it-- It says Hikari USA...and has a California address.
Without calling the directly, which they do have an 800 # listed, I
don't know whether the ones we have in the US are made in California,
or if the packaging is..or vice versa. It doesn't say.

"Product of China" means that the content is fully Chinese in origin. I
don't think it matters much in the case of Hikari frozen food, there's
almost nothing you need to do to seafood to preserve it, other than freeze
it quickly after processing, and keep your processing machinery clean.

If anyone is interested, melamine was discovered in US commerical fish-farm
feedstock, but didn't cause as much of a stir in that industry, as the
concentrations were much much lower. I don't know of any tropical pellet
or flake maker who has been a part of that supply chain.

In fisheries, the supply chain parties were;
- Ziegler (a feed maker for commercial fisheries, whose tainted product was
a shrimp pellet, which had binders and fillers in it)
- Uniscope (a company which made the binder, and sold it to Ziegler)
- Trembec (a Canadian company which made a resin, containing melamine,
which Uniscope used to make its binder)

If anyone ends up calling their fish food supplier, you can ask if any of
these three companies are suppliers to your food vendor.

Regards,
DaveZ- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for that info, Dave!
I'm sure it'll help many folks out.

Made in China?
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
I checked the back of the package and it says "Product of China",
however, above it-- It says Hikari USA...and has a California address.
Without calling the directly, which they do have an 800 # listed, I
don't know whether the ones we have in the US are made in California,
or if the packaging is..or vice versa. It doesn't say.
==========================
Since it says product of China, I would assume the food was produced there -
hopefully under the watchful eyes of Hikari.

Avoiding any kind of food stuff from China may be difficult, but I'm willing
to give it a go.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

Made in China?
 

On Jul 22, 11:53?am, "Reel McKoi" wrote:

Since it says product of China, I would assume the food was produced there -
hopefully under the watchful eyes of Hikari.

Avoiding any kind of food stuff from China may be difficult, but I'm willing
to give it a go.
--

Well I'm not giving up Hikari frozen foods, that's for sure.
The only thing that would even get me to consider it would be another
brand having the same quality.
So far, none of them come even close, hands down.

Made in China?
 

On Jul 25, 3:28?pm, Like you do not know!
wrote:

Utter nonsense deleted, as well as the crossposts that ROY added to
this thread.
Once again he has changed his name, but he can't hide the stupid!

Made in China?
 

On Jul 25, 3:28?pm, Like you do not know!
wrote:


yea yea yea,


Moron....

Get a friggin dictionary already!

You just said "yay", "yay", "yay".
You've been told a hundred times already.

And HUH???
to giver up it or
anything else now did they.
How are those banned accounts doing, puppet?
Look how busy you've been.

Made in China?
 

On Jul 26, 12:40?am, "bobandcarole.."
wrote:

YAWN........

Made in China?
 

On Jul 27, 5:07?am, bobandcarole wrote:
On Jul 26, 4:34?pm, Like you do not know!
wrote:





On 26 Jul, 00:40, "bobandcarole.."
wrote:

On Jul 26, 12:28?am, Tynk wrote:

On Jul 25, 3:28?pm, Like you do not know!
wrote:

yea yea yea

Nonsense deleted, as well as most of the cross posts.

Just a heads up.
The (__*__) dwelling butt monkey, Roy (aka A.Paul.Ing, Tristan, as
well as many others) has changed his name and email once again. Fix
your filters, report his posts, or just ignore him.
He has once again cross posted something I had posted on a freshwater
fish group.

So **** your panties and whine tynker bell.

TYNK loves to **** in her / his panties, and also loves to **** in em
as well..Hey after all it ****s in his mess kit all the time so why
not his panties.

LOL...true

See that TYNK, it takes a lot to be able to have a dick and be able to
control it as well..You bit off more than you could chew evidently
with the sex change operation
You should have stayed with a pussy.....

tynker bell is a cocksucking waste of human flesh.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Blob....
Go back to your Homosexual group that you frequent.... where you don't
even belong, lol.
Hmm, come to think of it, none of the groups you post on care for you.
You do nothing but spam and cause trouble.
If you have nothing to say regarding fish tanks, then why are posting
on a freshwater fish group?
It's called spam moron.

Made in China?
 

On Jul 28, 7:31?pm, "Sunny" wrote:


Is there a slight chance that you could exclude rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
from your **** fight?


From me?
Sure.

However, little chance the 2 nitwits who are causing all of this bull
crappy will.
Now ask *bobandcarole* to stop cross posting all of their nonsense,
and don't forget *Like You Don't Know* too.

Made in China?
 

On Jul 28, 7:31?pm, "Sunny" wrote:


Sunny....
Got fish?
If so, what types?

Made in China?
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 28, 7:31?pm, "Sunny" wrote:


Sunny....
Got fish?.......... yep
If so, what types?....... Two Bettas, facing off at each other in
seperate tanks :)

Bettas
 

On Jul 29, 12:56?am, "Sunny" wrote:

Sunny....
Got fish?.......... yep
If so, what types?....... Two Bettas, facing off at each other in
seperate tanks :)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Bettas and Angelfish are my passions.
I've been a fancier for the past 29 yrs, and bred both for 19.
Even though I'm not spawning Bettas right now, I still always have a
housefull.
In my 75g I keep all the females, a resident male (usually depending
on the females attitudes), and smaller (pearlscale) Angelfish.
Are the 2 males the only Bettas you've had, or have you had the Betta
itch for some time now. = )
Oh, do you know about the other group.....http://groups.google.com/
group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium?lnk=li&hl=en
Check it out if you haven't. You'll need to sign up, but it's well
worth it.
No idiots spamming up the group, as they are not allowed in.
The combined cache of knowledge over there is amazing.
Trust me, every new comer to this group that I've recommended it to,
has stayed over there.

Made in China?
 

Hi even us chinese are wary of chinese made foods, even before the
toothpaste issue

On Jul 18, 4:31 am, blair thompson wrote:
With all the conflab recently about tainted pet food and
toothpaste imported from China, I started to wonder how toxic the
frozen brine shrimp, bloodworms, etc also manufactured and packaged
there might be to our fish.
I asked at my LFS, and they said that, although made in China,
the brand they carried was "sterilized" (Hmmm.). I note that the
"Frostbites" brand carried by Walmart also originates in China.

Just wondering...
Blair.

Made in China?
 

On Jul 29, 9:54?am, TYNKS surgically removed Vagina
wrote:

Yet another name change for Roy, so add this one to your filters too.

Look at this list of cross posts he posted his made up bull crap to.
**rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc, alt.usenet.kooks,
alt.politics.homosexuality, rec.ponds** I have removed them though.
Just an FYI,
Click on "view profile" next to h is screen name(if you have this
option) and click show all at the bottom.
It'll show a list of all his different screen names to that particular
email account.
Do this to his numorous email accounts and you'll see who the real
problem is.
I only have one screen name and one email account. I have no need to
constantly change it to get around kill filters.
I am not the one cross posting nonsense constantly, with every single
post, to numorous groups. Roy is.