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"There are no atheists in foxholes"
U.S. backs churches in atheist fight July 19, 2007 BY DAVID ASHENFELTER FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER The U.S. Department of Justice has waded into a legal brawl between a national atheist group and the Detroit Downtown Development Authority, which pledged $734,570 in grants to three historic churches in a major downtown face-lift in time for the 2006 Super Bowl. A federal judge in Detroit is expected to rule soon in the case, which could have national implications as to what role the government has in helping to preserve historic churches. Advertisement American Atheists Inc. sued Detroit's DDA in U.S. District Court last year, saying the grants violated the constitutional separation between church and state. The DDA pledged the money to the churches as partial reimbursement for improvements the churches made to their properties. "The churches should be paying for those projects, not taxpayers," American Atheists President Ellen Johnson told the Free Press last week. She said the projects amount to public support of religion. But the development authority, the churches and their recent ally, the Justice Department's Civil Division, say the funds, which the churches haven't received, don't involve Bibles, prayer books or religious indoctrination -- only grants that enabled the churches to participate in a program that helped downtown property owners spruce up their property. They compared the grants to communities providing police and fire protection for churches. "It's been nightmarish," said the Rev. Kevin Turman, pastor of Second Baptist Church in Greektown. He and other pastors said that without the grants, which were due more than a year ago, the churches have been forced to renegotiate loans, pay more interest and divert funds from church projects. The decision is expected to come soon from U.S. District Judge Avern Cohn. The Justice Department said an adverse ruling could jeopardize future national preservation grants to historic churches. Justice Department lawyer Kathryn Wyer told Cohn that the federal government has long recognized the importance of preserving national historic church sites. In 2003, she said, the National Parks Service awarded the Old North Church in Boston a $317,000 grant to restore its windows. The church, occupied by an Episcopal congregation, was made famous in April 1775 when its sexton displayed two lanterns from the steeple to warn American Revolutionary War patriot Paul Revere that the British were advancing on Lexington, Mass. "Federal bricks-and-mortar programs serve important secular interests in preserving our national heritage and in providing tangible assistance after major catastrophes," Wyer told Cohn in court papers in April. She declined to be interviewed. "Detroit's program, while on a smaller scale than these federal programs, similarly serves the important purpose of bringing a downtown area back to life," Wyer added. American Atheists Inc., a New Jersey nonprofit founded in the 1960s by the legendary late atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair, sued the authority in April 2006, after learning of the grants to Central United Methodist Church and St. John's Episcopal Church on Woodward near the Fox Theatre, and Second Baptist Church on Monroe. The churches used the grant pledges to obtain $1.7 million in loans to repair their building facades and parking lots and make other improvements. Property owners were offered 50% reimbursement -- up to $150,000 for building facades and $30,000 for parking lots -- to improve their property. The grants, totaling $11.5 million, were designed to generate $23 million in improvements. "We agreed to provide assistance to the churches, not as churches but as property owners," said Art Papapanos, vice president of the Detroit Economic Growth Corp., which is affiliated with the DDA. "We didn't differentiate between whether it was religious, political, private or government entity." Authority lawyers argued that the church projects complied with U.S. Supreme Court decisions allowing governments to award grants to religious organizations if the grants don't advance or inhibit religion or result in religious indoctrination. The atheist group was joined in its suit by Steve Walker, a political science professor at Wayne County Community College, and Dennis Vatsis, a Detroit lawyer who lives in West Bloomfield. "I have nothing against these churches, but why would I want to subsidize them with my tax money?" asked Walker. Added Vatsis: "I'm just tired of working 60 hours a week to fund these government schemes to dole out my tax money, particularly when we have a constitutional prohibition against it." |
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"bobandcarole" wrote in message oups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. |
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On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"bobandcarole" wrote in message oups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. -- Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and General Purpose Igor The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck of Doom Convicted by Earthquack "Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard" |
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On Jul 28, 2:45 pm, bobandcarole wrote:
"There are no atheists in foxholes" How the **** would YOUR fat ass know, you lazy blobtarded ****wit?!! |
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Use your brain. support science, not superstition.
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"Lucifer" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "bobandcarole" wrote in message oups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. Yes you do, you just don't know what you are saying when you use that word, deity. It encompasses more than you now realize. |
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On Jul 28, 3:05?pm, ScottyFLL wrote:
On Jul 28, 2:45 pm, bobandcarole wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" How the **** would YOUR fat ass know, you lazy blobtarded ****wit?!! I've been there, unlike YOU, pathetic pussy queer. ScottyFLL or ****tyFLL as he is known in APH is a proven liar and keep in mind that he will netKKKop you if he/she can. Of course he can't netKKKop moi, because I am anonymized to perfection. My usenet longevity is proof positive of that assertion. But keep in mind that he strives to be a pussy netKKKop coward. Why? Because ****tyFLL IS a coward. My pet monkey lc, recently named "Little ****" {Also a netKKKop wannabe} thinks I live in Vancouver. Impotent psycho stalker sniper 308 aka "cap-gun" thinks I live in Virginia. Pathetic colon choker jaye elke thinks I live in Indiana. Which one of the Three Spooges do you think is right? Moe, Larry, Curley or none of the above? We all remember when a foolishly confident ****tyFLL posted this priceless gem: "I think we'll be seeing less of bobandcarole around these here parts...at least while I'm around"--faggot ScottyFLL A tagline for the ages to be sure! After I shoved his delusional rant down his throat, he lied and said he didn't post it after it was witnessed by everyone. ****tyFLL IS a liar! We've seen less of faggot ****tyFLL but not me. Just as I knew it would be, of course. He was doomed to failure from day one. And I'll be here.."as long as scotty is around" :-) ****tyFLL IS delusional His forgeries are well documented. This is ****tyFLLs "screenshot" http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?i...screenslz4.jpg This is the authentic version: http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2849/bcos5.jpg ~~****tyFLL...usenets biggest sot~~ We can't help but mention the fact that ****tyFLL is a chronic alcoholic as evidenced by his posts in alt.recovery.aa. He has no discipline or self control and that fact is laughable to say the least! . One has to wonder if his babbling tirades regarding me are fueled by 100 proof. :-) We've established, beyond a reasonable doubt, the fact that scotty WILL lie...about what he posts and about his deviant habits and lifestyle. And he/it will lie about other purveyors of truth like myself. Also we've established the fact that he is a ****head, which could explain his incoherent babbling and his willingness to believe posts with forged headers are authentic. He's a proven liar, faggot, forger AND a pussy netKKKop. You can't get much lower than that. Oh, did I mention he is a flaming homo that ingests sperm and has many disgusting homo/freak fetishes? http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...84d3c7919c791? Tosses ScottyFLL a five spot Have another drink ****ty, this one's on me.... From the gloryhole that ****tyFLL mans regularly: ~~~"Squirt! Squirt!"~~~~ ROTF!!!!!! "I think we'll be seeing less of bobandcarole around these here parts...at least while I'm around"--faggot ScottyFLL "I threatened suit, you changed your illegal behavior because you're a scared little pussy, and I let it go"--Documented liar ScottyFLL http:://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/c77847ce4ccc4e4e? dmode=source&hl=en BTW...when you give him several usenet cockslaps he threatens to sue, try it, it's fun!...ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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bobandcarole wrote:
"There are no atheists in foxholes" This article has nothing to do with that canard. snip The U.S. Department of Justice has waded into a legal brawl between a national atheist group and the Detroit Downtown Development Authority, which pledged $734,570 in grants to three historic churches in a major downtown face-lift in time for the 2006 Super Bowl. I tend to agree with the DDDA. Nothing wrong with sprucing up the town. The problem is, the Church doesn't pay any taxes, so this benefit is basically a free ride emburdened by the tax payers. When the Church starts being a part of the taxpaying community, then it deserves the benefits thereof. -- Uncle Vic #2011 |
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Mark Earnest wrote:
"bobandcarole" wrote in message oups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. People fart sloppily and crap in their pants when they don't sound impressive. Oh, man. I just made a mess in my pants. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:45:44 -0700, bobandcarole
wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no intelligent people in your house either. |
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On Jul 28, 3:52 pm, John Baker wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:45:44 -0700, bobandcarole wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no intelligent people in your house either. For those unaware, Blob's "house" = "mobile home parked on the edge of a swamp". |
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On Jul 28, 3:24?pm, bobandcarole wrote:
On Jul 28, 3:05?pm, ScottyFLL wrote: On Jul 28, 2:45 pm, bobandcarole wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" How the **** would YOUR fat ass know, you lazy blobtarded ****wit?!! I've been there, unlike YOU, pathetic pussy queer. ScottyFLL or ****tyFLL as he is known in APH is a proven liar and keep in mind that he will netKKKop you if he/she can. Of course he can't netKKKop moi, because I am anonymized to perfection. My usenet longevity is proof positive of that assertion. But keep in mind that he strives to be a pussy netKKKop coward. Why? Because ****tyFLL IS a coward. My pet monkey lc, recently named "Little ****" {Also a netKKKop wannabe} thinks I live in Vancouver. Impotent psycho stalker sniper 308 aka "cap-gun" thinks I live in Virginia. Pathetic colon choker jaye elke thinks I live in Indiana. Which one of the Three Spooges do you think is right? Moe, Larry, Curley or none of the above? We all remember when a foolishly confident ****tyFLL posted this priceless gem: "I think we'll be seeing less of bobandcarole around these here parts...at least while I'm around"--faggot ScottyFLL A tagline for the ages to be sure! After I shoved his delusional rant down his throat, he lied and said he didn't post it after it was witnessed by everyone. ****tyFLL IS a liar! We've seen less of faggot ****tyFLL but not me. Just as I knew it would be, of course. He was doomed to failure from day one. And I'll be here.."as long as scotty is around" :-) ****tyFLL IS delusional His forgeries are well documented. This is ****tyFLLs "screenshot" http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?i...screenslz4.jpg This is the authentic version: http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2849/bcos5.jpg ~~****tyFLL...usenets biggest sot~~ We can't help but mention the fact that ****tyFLL is a chronic alcoholic as evidenced by his posts in alt.recovery.aa. He has no discipline or self control and that fact is laughable to say the least! . One has to wonder if his babbling tirades regarding me are fueled by 100 proof. :-) We've established, beyond a reasonable doubt, the fact that scotty WILL lie...about what he posts and about his deviant habits and lifestyle. And he/it will lie about other purveyors of truth like myself. Also we've established the fact that he is a ****head, which could explain his incoherent babbling and his willingness to believe posts with forged headers are authentic. He's a proven liar, faggot, forger AND a pussy netKKKop. You can't get much lower than that. Oh, did I mention he is a flaming homo that ingests sperm and has many disgusting homo/freak fetishes? http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...84d3c7919c791? Tosses ScottyFLL a five spot Have another drink ****ty, this one's on me.... From the gloryhole that ****tyFLL mans regularly: ~~~"Squirt! Squirt!"~~~~ ROTF!!!!!! "I think we'll be seeing less of bobandcarole around these here parts...at least while I'm around"--faggot ScottyFLL "I threatened suit, you changed your illegal behavior because you're a scared little pussy, and I let it go"--Documented liar ScottyFLL http:://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/c77847ce4ccc4e4e? dmode=source&hl=en BTW...when you give him several usenet cockslaps he threatens to sue, try it, it's fun!...ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW...when you give him several usenet cockslaps he threatens to sue, try it, it's fun!...ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Blob's "house" = "mobile home parked on the edge of a swamp created by his wife's incessant squirting"
On Jul 28, 3:52 pm, John Baker wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:45:44 -0700, bobandcarole wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no intelligent people in your house either. For those unaware, Blob's "house" = "mobile home parked on the edge of a swamp". |
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On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"Lucifer" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. Yes you do, you just don't know what you are saying when you use that word, deity. It encompasses more than you now realize. You are an idiot. Don't you DARE tell us what we do or don't believe. I do not believe in any kind of god. I have never seen evidence of a god. If you have evidence, present it. If you want to redefine the word 'god' so that it no longer means anything, then go right ahead. We are not obligated to pay any attention to you. |
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"Conspiracy of Doves" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "Lucifer" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. Yes you do, you just don't know what you are saying when you use that word, deity. It encompasses more than you now realize. You are an idiot. Don't you DARE tell us what we do or don't believe. No need to get your feathers all ruffled. I am only expanding your horizons, and taking away your fear of what you know may happen if God does turn out to in fact be real. I do not believe in any kind of god. I have never seen evidence of a god. If you have evidence, present it. If you want to redefine the word 'god' so that it no longer means anything, then go right ahead. We are not obligated to pay any attention to you. God is not redefined. He has always been things atheist believe in, like light, intelligence, compassion, and perfection. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:22:22 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
wrote: "Lucifer" wrote in message roups.com... On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "bobandcarole" wrote in message oups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. Yes you do, you just don't know what you are saying when you use that word, deity. Well, enlighten us. It encompasses more than you now realize. See above. |
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On Jul 28, 5:00 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"Conspiracy of Doves" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "Lucifer" wrote in message roups.com... On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. Yes you do, you just don't know what you are saying when you use that word, deity. It encompasses more than you now realize. You are an idiot. Don't you DARE tell us what we do or don't believe. No need to get your feathers all ruffled. I am only expanding your horizons, and taking away your fear of what you know may happen if God does turn out to in fact be real. I do not believe in any kind of god. I have never seen evidence of a god. If you have evidence, present it. If you want to redefine the word 'god' so that it no longer means anything, then go right ahead. We are not obligated to pay any attention to you. God is not redefined. He has always been things atheist believe in, like light, intelligence, compassion, and perfection. None of which are 'god'. |
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"Mark Earnest" wrote in message
news:13anbjm1hirpt33@corp. God is not redefined. He has always been things atheist believe in, like light, intelligence, compassion, and perfection. How absolutely, desperately *pitiful*.... L. |
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"Conspiracy of Doves" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 28, 5:00 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "Conspiracy of Doves" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "Lucifer" wrote in message roups.com... On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. Yes you do, you just don't know what you are saying when you use that word, deity. It encompasses more than you now realize. You are an idiot. Don't you DARE tell us what we do or don't believe. No need to get your feathers all ruffled. I am only expanding your horizons, and taking away your fear of what you know may happen if God does turn out to in fact be real. I do not believe in any kind of god. I have never seen evidence of a god. If you have evidence, present it. If you want to redefine the word 'god' so that it no longer means anything, then go right ahead. We are not obligated to pay any attention to you. God is not redefined. He has always been things atheist believe in, like light, intelligence, compassion, and perfection. None of which are 'god'. Yes they are, and you know it. You are merely deceiving yourself. |
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"Daniel Kolle" wrote in message ... On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:22:22 -0500, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "Lucifer" wrote in message roups.com... On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "bobandcarole" wrote in message oups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. Yes you do, you just don't know what you are saying when you use that word, deity. Well, enlighten us. A deity, any deity, is a being that transcends the normal. We interact with them every time we dwell upon the unusual, the mysterious, or the perfect. It encompasses more than you now realize. See above. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:55:46 -0500, in alt.atheism
"Mark Earnest" wrote in : "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Please tell me how I believe in a god. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. Tell me what I believe. |
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On Jul 28, 2:45 pm, bobandcarole wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" U.S. backs churches in atheist fight July 19, 2007 BY DAVID ASHENFELTER FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER The U.S. Department of Justice has waded into a legal brawl between a national atheist group and the Detroit Downtown Development Authority, which pledged $734,570 in grants to three historic churches in a major downtown face-lift in time for the 2006 Super Bowl. A federal judge in Detroit is expected to rule soon in the case, which could have national implications as to what role the government has in helping to preserve historic churches. Advertisement American Atheists Inc. sued Detroit's DDA in U.S. District Court last year, saying the grants violated the constitutional separation between church and state. The DDA pledged the money to the churches as partial reimbursement for improvements the churches made to their properties. "The churches should be paying for those projects, not taxpayers," American Atheists President Ellen Johnson told the Free Press last week. She said the projects amount to public support of religion. But the development authority, the churches and their recent ally, the Justice Department's Civil Division, say the funds, which the churches haven't received, don't involve Bibles, prayer books or religious indoctrination -- only grants that enabled the churches to participate in a program that helped downtown property owners spruce up their property. They compared the grants to communities providing police and fire protection for churches. "It's been nightmarish," said the Rev. Kevin Turman, pastor of Second Baptist Church in Greektown. He and other pastors said that without the grants, which were due more than a year ago, the churches have been forced to renegotiate loans, pay more interest and divert funds from church projects. The decision is expected to come soon from U.S. District Judge Avern Cohn. The Justice Department said an adverse ruling could jeopardize future national preservation grants to historic churches. Justice Department lawyer Kathryn Wyer told Cohn that the federal government has long recognized the importance of preserving national historic church sites. In 2003, she said, the National Parks Service awarded the Old North Church in Boston a $317,000 grant to restore its windows. The church, occupied by an Episcopal congregation, was made famous in April 1775 when its sexton displayed two lanterns from the steeple to warn American Revolutionary War patriot Paul Revere that the British were advancing on Lexington, Mass. "Federal bricks-and-mortar programs serve important secular interests in preserving our national heritage and in providing tangible assistance after major catastrophes," Wyer told Cohn in court papers in April. She declined to be interviewed. "Detroit's program, while on a smaller scale than these federal programs, similarly serves the important purpose of bringing a downtown area back to life," Wyer added. American Atheists Inc., a New Jersey nonprofit founded in the 1960s by the legendary late atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair, sued the authority in April 2006, after learning of the grants to Central United Methodist Church and St. John's Episcopal Church on Woodward near the Fox Theatre, and Second Baptist Church on Monroe. The churches used the grant pledges to obtain $1.7 million in loans to repair their building facades and parking lots and make other improvements. Property owners were offered 50% reimbursement -- up to $150,000 for building facades and $30,000 for parking lots -- to improve their property. The grants, totaling $11.5 million, were designed to generate $23 million in improvements. "We agreed to provide assistance to the churches, not as churches but as property owners," said Art Papapanos, vice president of the Detroit Economic Growth Corp., which is affiliated with the DDA. "We didn't differentiate between whether it was religious, political, private or government entity." Authority lawyers argued that the church projects complied with U.S. Supreme Court decisions allowing governments to award grants to religious organizations if the grants don't advance or inhibit religion or result in religious indoctrination. The atheist group was joined in its suit by Steve Walker, a political science professor at Wayne County Community College, and Dennis Vatsis, a Detroit lawyer who lives in West Bloomfield. "I have nothing against these churches, but why would I want to subsidize them with my tax money?" asked Walker. Added Vatsis: "I'm just tired of working 60 hours a week to fund these government schemes to dole out my tax money, particularly when we have a constitutional prohibition against it." Not good to kick any ass...atheist or theist. Once ass starts getting kicked the ass kicker is subject to getting their own ass kicked when the tables turn. Much better to offer peace to others than an ass kicking. .....my discussion of this topic from an earlier post. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...006812a06f9ddf Take care, V (Male) Agnostic Freethinker Practical Philosopher AA#2 |
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"bobandcarole" wrote in message oups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" The Associated Press reported that in the last moments before Tillman died, another soldier was hugging the ground at Tillman's side, and Tillman said, "Would you shut your [expletive] mouth? God's not going to help you; you need to do something for yourself, you sniveling -" -- Denis Loubet http//www.io.com/~dloubet |
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bobandcarole wrote:
"There are no atheists in foxholes" Actually, there are. The military allows official designation of atheist symbols on headstones. They also allow the use of the Wiccan symbol for practitioners of that religion. -- And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is: English is a funny language. A fat chance and a slim chance are the same thing. (Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl) |
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"Free Lunch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:55:46 -0500, in alt.atheism "Mark Earnest" wrote in : "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Please tell me how I believe in a god. Do you believe in truth? in justice? in brilliance of thought? in perfection? Then you believe in God, whom is all these things, and others. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. Tell me what I believe. You are an atheist, and an atheist believes in God. They just believe in what God is, rather than what men say about him. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:58:22 -0500 there was an Ancient "Denis
Loubet" who stoppeth one in alt.atheism "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" The Associated Press reported that in the last moments before Tillman died, another soldier was hugging the ground at Tillman's side, and Tillman said, "Would you shut your [expletive] mouth? God's not going to help you; you need to do something for yourself, you sniveling -" Now THAT'S a Ranger! -- Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5 Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011 "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:14:48 -0400 there was an Ancient Dionisio
who stoppeth one in alt.atheism bobandcarole wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" Actually, there are. The military allows official designation of atheist symbols on headstones. They also allow the use of the Wiccan symbol for practitioners of that religion. More importantly, "atheist" is allowed to be used on official documents in the DD-201 file and on a soldier's dogtags. -- Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5 Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011 "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:45:44 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
"There are no atheists in foxholes" There are ONLY atheists in foxholes. Nobody who believes in an all powerful "god" that will protect them or "call them home" to paradise is going to be cowering in a foxhole, afraid for his life. Every person in a foxhole is an atheist. Every. Single. One. -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H. L. Mencken |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:55:46 -0500, Mark Earnest wrote:
"bobandcarole" wrote in message oups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. That's right, nobody's here in alt.atheism. You can leave now. -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:22:22 -0500, Mark Earnest wrote:
"Lucifer" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "bobandcarole" wrote in message oups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. Yes you do, you just don't know what you are saying when you use that word, deity. It encompasses more than you now realize. I'm curious. Do you understand that every single person in alt.atheism thinks you have serious mental problems? Do you get understand that at all? -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Just because it's inexplicted doesn't mean it's inexplicable." - Dr. House |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:00:47 -0500, Mark Earnest wrote:
"Conspiracy of Doves" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "Lucifer" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 28, 7:55 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote: "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. In your case, that would be any words. Atheist - without a deity. I don't believe in a deity, therefore I am atheist. Simple as that. Yes you do, you just don't know what you are saying when you use that word, deity. It encompasses more than you now realize. You are an idiot. Don't you DARE tell us what we do or don't believe. No need to get your feathers all ruffled. I am only expanding your horizons, and taking away your fear of what you know may happen if God does turn out to in fact be real. No, you're being an insulting asshole. (But you're a theist so that's expected) -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism, because it is a merger of State and corporate power." - Mussolini |
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On Jul 28, 10:20?pm, "Andrealphus" wrote:
In News ,, Dionisio at , typed this: bobandcarole wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" Actually, there are. The military allows official designation of atheist symbols on headstones. They also allow the use of the Wiccan symbol for practitioners of that religion. Atheists have a symbol? That's a new one on me. How do you symbolize that which is not? "ARealPUSS" |
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On Jul 28, 10:29?pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:45:44 -0700, bobandcarole wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are ONLY atheists in foxholes. Nobody who believes in an all powerful "god" that will protect them or "call them home" to paradise is going to be cowering in a foxhole, afraid for his life. So you're saying that atheists are cowards and Christians are heros. I'll buy that........ Every person in a foxhole is an atheist. Every. Single. One. -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H. L. Mencken |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:44:50 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
On Jul 28, 10:29?pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:45:44 -0700, bobandcarole wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are ONLY atheists in foxholes. Nobody who believes in an all powerful "god" that will protect them or "call them home" to paradise is going to be cowering in a foxhole, afraid for his life. So you're saying that atheists are cowards and Christians are heros. I'll buy that........ I'm saying that deep down, you *all* know your god is a myth. You fear death just as much as anybody because you *know* it's the end. -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!" |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:51:32 -0500, in alt.atheism
"Mark Earnest" wrote in : "Free Lunch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:55:46 -0500, in alt.atheism "Mark Earnest" wrote in : "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Please tell me how I believe in a god. Do you believe in truth? in justice? in brilliance of thought? in perfection? Then you believe in God, whom is all these things, and others. Your definition of god entails everything and nothing. It is utterly meaningless. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. Tell me what I believe. You are an atheist, and an atheist believes in God. They just believe in what God is, rather than what men say about him. Nonsense. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:45:44 -0700, bobandcarole
wrote: "There are no atheists in foxholes" I'm an atheist and I was in a foxhole. If I saw someone praying instead of shooting to protect his brothers, I would cap him. A christian piece of **** sleeping on guard duty gets the same. No god ever protected anybody while asleep. I call it superstitious dues. Warlord Steve BAAWA |
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"Free Lunch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:51:32 -0500, in alt.atheism "Mark Earnest" wrote in : "Free Lunch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:55:46 -0500, in alt.atheism "Mark Earnest" wrote in : "bobandcarole" wrote in message roups.com... "There are no atheists in foxholes" There are no atheists. Atheists believe in God, but just believe in what he is, rather than what people say about him. Please tell me how I believe in a god. Do you believe in truth? in justice? in brilliance of thought? in perfection? Then you believe in God, whom is all these things, and others. Your definition of god entails everything and nothing. It is utterly meaningless. Some people call themselves atheists, but they don't even know what the word atheist means. People use words that they don't understand to try to sound impressive. Tell me what I believe. You are an atheist, and an atheist believes in God. They just believe in what God is, rather than what men say about him. Nonsense. What you know does not make sense to you. |
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Andrealphus wrote:
Atheists have a symbol? That's a new one on me. How do you symbolize that which is not? Vapid answer? A circle with a slash through it. Non-vapid, "don't know." The article didn't include a depiction of the symbol. -- And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is: I once complained to my father that I didn't seem to be able to do things the same way other people did. Dad's advice? “Margo, don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.” --Margo Kaufman (Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl) |
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