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I'm about to set up the other 55g tank in the sunroom. Because it'll be
heavily planted I was wondering about adding rough builders sand to the gravel. The question is.... how do you vac the gravel without sucking up the sand? Or is that not a problem? -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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On Oct 8, 3:27 pm, "Jeffrey St. Clair, Ph.D." info@REMOVE*THIScichlid-
world.com wrote: Are you referring to play type sand? I'd avoid it as it has clay and really hard to rinse out. You could do just sand and then you just shake your python an inch from it and it will suck up the mulm. I wouldn't mix the two substrates as they will mix into a sand/gravel mess. Sand is great though, because of it's density, nothing sinks in like with gravel, etc. "Reel McKoi" wrote in message ... I'm about to set up the other 55g tank in the sunroom. Because it'll be heavily planted I was wondering about adding rough builders sand to the gravel. The question is.... how do you vac the gravel without sucking up the sand? Or is that not a problem? -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Builders sand is commonly used for masonary work and should not have any kind of clay in it. Of course what is called builders sand here may not be what they call builders sand in other areas. You can buy the play sand from Lowes or Home Depot inthe bags and it is cleaned and free of such junk, and very cheap. I use the sugar white play sand which is very fine and does great for plants.....I have seen the same exact (suitable) sand sold as lawn leveling sand, builders sand,. play sand, traction sand, masonary sand,paver leveling sand...........all of which were identical......Just watch yu do not get a calcium based sand such as old castle or southdown as it will alter your ph. But if your gonna keep African cichlids then the calcium based sand would be ideal. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:00:51 -0500, Reel McKoi wrote:
I'm about to set up the other 55g tank in the sunroom. Because it'll be heavily planted I was wondering about adding rough builders sand to the gravel. The question is.... how do you vac the gravel without sucking up the sand? Or is that not a problem? If the tank will be heavily planted you won't be doing much vacuuming anyway :-). And I know I've said it before, but the best homemade substrate I've found is the coarse "tube sand" or "traction sand" with the really fine particles sifted out. More like fine gravel than sand. My plants seem to love it. And it's cheap :-). |
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"Jeffrey St. Clair, Ph.D." wrote in message ... Are you referring to play type sand? No, not the play sand. It's too fine. I'm thinking about builders sand which is a little more coarse, cheaper, darker in color and used to mix to make concrete. I'd avoid it as it has clay and really hard to rinse out. You could do just sand and then you just shake your python an inch from it and it will suck up the mulm. I wouldn't mix the two substrates as they will mix into a sand/gravel mess. Sand is great though, because of it's density, nothing sinks in like with gravel, etc. I was afraid it would go anaerobic from fine mulm if I used just sand or a sand mix and didn't or couldn't vac it. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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"Natsirt" wrote in message ups.com... Builders sand is commonly used for masonary work and should not have any kind of clay in it. Of course what is called builders sand here may not be what they call builders sand in other areas. Where I live the builders sand from Lowe's is courser and a darker color. I buy it to mix with potting soil for my cacti and succulents. The white play sand it too powdery although I've used that one in potting mixes as well. You can buy the play sand from Lowes or Home Depot inthe bags and it is cleaned and free of such junk, and very cheap. Yep! :-) Not expensive at all and I like the darker color of the builder's sand. I use the sugar white play sand which is very fine and does great for plants.....I have seen the same exact (suitable) sand sold as lawn leveling sand, builders sand,. play sand, traction sand, masonary sand,paver leveling sand...........all of which were identical......Just watch yu do not get a calcium based sand such as old castle or southdown as it will alter your ph. But if your gonna keep African cichlids then the calcium based sand would be ideal. Thanks for the warning. I'm not sure what kind of fish are going in the 2nd tank yet. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:00:51 -0500, Reel McKoi wrote: I'm about to set up the other 55g tank in the sunroom. Because it'll be heavily planted I was wondering about adding rough builders sand to the gravel. The question is.... how do you vac the gravel without sucking up the sand? Or is that not a problem? If the tank will be heavily planted you won't be doing much vacuuming anyway :-). And I know I've said it before, but the best homemade substrate I've found is the coarse "tube sand" or "traction sand" with the really fine particles sifted out. More like fine gravel than sand. My plants seem to love it. And it's cheap :-). ========================== Are you talking about the stuff in bags called "builders sand" used to mix concrete? I haven't heard of it called traction or tube sand. They may be the same product. Where did you buy it? True, plants do make vacuuming the bottom difficult but fear the bottom will become a nitrate factory if not vacc'ed at all. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(รถ |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:47:04 -0500, Reel McKoi wrote:
And I know I've said it before, but the best homemade substrate I've found is the coarse "tube sand" or "traction sand" with the really fine particles sifted out. More like fine gravel than sand. My plants seem to love it. And it's cheap :-). ========================== Are you talking about the stuff in bags called "builders sand" used to mix concrete? I haven't heard of it called traction or tube sand. They may be the same product. Where did you buy it? True, plants do make vacuuming the bottom difficult but fear the bottom will become a nitrate factory if not vacc'ed at all. No, traction sand is what you carry in the winter to put under your wheels if you get stuck in the snow and ice. About 2/3 to 3/4 of it is fine gravel in the 1/16" to 1/8" range. I sift out the finer stuff and throw it away. It may be different in your area - I live in eastern Washington state. I haven't had any problems yet with gunk on the bottom, but I have a herd of Maylasian trumpet snails in each tank :-). |
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"Tynk" wrote in message oups.com... The *tube sand* that I know about (and use for traction during the winter) is a larger grit than play sand, that's for sure. = / Found that out when one of the tubes got a hole poked in it (sharp metal), which isn't easy to do with tube sand. The bags are really tuff. The sand for concrete is a bit smaller than tube sand. Is "builder's" and the sand for mixing concrete the same stuff? Yes. It's much coarser than play sand which is a step above powder at the Lowe's and HD where I live. Roy mentioned it, as well as you RM. I just know about the concrete type and the tube (or traction) sand. Right now I've got 4 tubes of it on the garage floor waiting until winter. = ) Tubes? What do you mean "tubes" of it? Here it's sold in 50lb bags like the play sand. I didn't know that sand like these would be safe for aquariums. I knew some folks get their gravel from building supply places, but had no idea about the types of sand that can be used too. Is it prepared the same way, just rinse and use? That's also what I'm trying to find out. I would think even this coarse builder's sand would be hard to rinse. I don't mind cloudy water in the tank for a few days but wouldn't want it all the time. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(รถ |
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"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:47:04 -0500, Reel McKoi wrote: Are you talking about the stuff in bags called "builders sand" used to mix concrete? I haven't heard of it called traction or tube sand. They may be the same product. Where did you buy it? True, plants do make vacuuming the bottom difficult but fear the bottom will become a nitrate factory if not vacc'ed at all. ~~~~~ No, traction sand is what you carry in the winter to put under your wheels if you get stuck in the snow and ice. About 2/3 to 3/4 of it is fine gravel in the 1/16" to 1/8" range. I sift out the finer stuff and throw it away. It may be different in your area - I live in eastern Washington state. I haven't had any problems yet with gunk on the bottom, but I have a herd of Maylasian trumpet snails in each tank :-). OK, I'm not familiar with traction sand. We don't get a lot of snow and ice here but will ask for it the next time I hit Lowe's, ACE or HD. Only mystery snails are available here and they die in less than a month. I have no idea why. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(รถ |
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On Oct 9, 1:45 pm, "Reel McKoi" wrote:
"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:47:04 -0500, Reel McKoi wrote: Are you talking about the stuff in bags called "builders sand" used to mix concrete? I haven't heard of it called traction or tube sand. They may be the same product. Where did you buy it? True, plants do make vacuuming the bottom difficult but fear the bottom will become a nitrate factory if not vacc'ed at all. ~~~~~ No, traction sand is what you carry in the winter to put under your wheels if you get stuck in the snow and ice. About 2/3 to 3/4 of it is fine gravel in the 1/16" to 1/8" range. I sift out the finer stuff and throw it away. It may be different in your area - I live in eastern Washington state. I haven't had any problems yet with gunk on the bottom, but I have a herd of Maylasian trumpet snails in each tank :-). OK, I'm not familiar with traction sand. We don't get a lot of snow and ice here but will ask for it the next time I hit Lowe's, ACE or HD. Only mystery snails are available here and they die in less than a month. I have no idea why. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Too bad most FW enthusiasts do not pasy as much attention to "cleanup" crews as SW folks do. There is all kinds of suitable clean up critters out there but they are pretty drab looking as compared to sal****er critters, so therefore they tend to be ignored. Thats one reason they are hard to find in most LFS as no one is gonna buy that drabold critter when they can get a flashy pictus cat or a golden nugget pleco.......... RM.any of the sand with the exception of calcium based (old castle or southdown) is fine. So just look for grain size that suits you. If in doubt if its calcium (limestone based) take a smallbottle of vinegar with you and apply a couple of drops to the sand or gravel and if it fizzes its limestone or calcium based...........which would not b e good unless its used in a african cichlid environment. You'll find the calcium / limestone based sands moreinthe paver section as they tend to quarry rocks and grind it and its limestone they usually use for that.........and it can be usually a grey or white in color. Silica or quartz based looks like sugar and is uniformin grain size (about like sugar|) and plain silica based masonary is a tan to yellow color and is commonly used in m,asonary work / concrete etc. I wold not pay any attention to tube, traction or what have you as it matters not. Its just a packaging and nameing game so do not let the package name sway you one way or the other. Look for color and grain size and what type of sand it is.not its intended use. If its stated for masonary or concrete or playsand you can pretty well guaraantee its free of mud and mica particles, and only needs a good washing. They also sell a sand called river run which is commonly sucked form river bottoms and is a brown in color. It is usually washed by the dredge company prior to it being marketed and it too is used in masonary and is perfectly suitable, but I have never seen it in bagged packs, only huge outdoor piles. |
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"eekamouse" wrote in message ups.com... Too bad most FW enthusiasts do not pasy as much attention to "cleanup" crews as SW folks do. There is all kinds of suitable clean up critters out there but they are pretty drab looking as compared to sal****er critters, so therefore they tend to be ignored. Thats one reason they are hard to find in most LFS as no one is gonna buy that drabold critter when they can get a flashy pictus cat or a golden nugget pleco.......... This may be true. I have 3 albino corys, a rubberlip pleco and 2 clown plecos which I almost never see. The clown loaches also seem to like checking out the gravel. RM.any of the sand with the exception of calcium based (old castle or southdown) is fine. So just look for grain size that suits you. If in doubt if its calcium (limestone based) take a smallbottle of vinegar with you and apply a couple of drops to the sand or gravel and if it fizzes its limestone or calcium based...........which would not b e good unless its used in a african cichlid environment. You'll find the calcium / limestone based sands moreinthe paver section as they tend to quarry rocks and grind it and its limestone they usually use for that.........and it can be usually a grey or white in color. Silica or quartz based looks like sugar and is uniformin grain size (about like sugar|) That's one of the sands I use to mix with potting soil for for my cacti and succulents. and plain silica based masonary is a tan to yellow color and is commonly used in m,asonary work / concrete etc. This is the other sand I have, the one I was thinking on putting in the 55g, nixed with a fine brown gravel from Lowe's. I wold not pay any attention to tube, traction or what have you as it matters not. Its just a packaging and nameing game so do not let the package name sway you one way or the other. Look for color and grain size and what type of sand it is.not its intended use. If its stated for masonary or concrete or playsand you can pretty well guaraantee its free of mud and mica particles, and only needs a good washing. They also sell a sand called river run which is commonly sucked form river bottoms and is a brown in color. It is usually washed by the dredge company prior to it being marketed and it too is used in masonary and is perfectly suitable, but I have never seen it in bagged packs, only huge outdoor piles. Thanks for this information. I have plenty of time to check around the different stores. I'm kind of busy this time of year repotting and working with all my houseplants so this tank wont be filled until maybe the end of the month. :-) -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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On Oct 10, 9:59 am, Tynk wrote:
On Oct 9, 1:42?pm, "Reel McKoi" wrote: I just know about the concrete type and the tube (or traction) sand. Right now I've got 4 tubes of it on the garage floor waiting until winter. = ) Tubes? ?What do you mean "tubes" of it? ?Here it's sold in 50lb bags like the play sand. I know exactly what you mean. The paper bagged ones...same as the concrete mix bags. Tube sand is basically how the bag it comes in is shaped. It's a long tube form. The bag is some type of really tuff plastic, and they're about maybe 2 1/2 feet long or so. Mine are 60 pounds each. They're great for a little added weight over the rear axle of vehicles that tend to slide around in the winter (vans, trucks, little hotrods like mine, hehe). The only thing that slides around on TY|NK is her new dick in her panties and her tiny brain in that big ****ing head of hers! |
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"Tynk" wrote in message ups.com... I know exactly what you mean. The paper bagged ones...same as the concrete mix bags. Tube sand is basically how the bag it comes in is shaped. It's a long tube form. The bag is some type of really tuff plastic, and they're about maybe 2 1/2 feet long or so. Mine are 60 pounds each. They're great for a little added weight over the rear axle of vehicles that tend to slide around in the winter (vans, trucks, little hotrods like mine, hehe). ========================= Gotcha! ;-) -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(รถ |
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I've used fine beach sand for over a decade. And builders sand which
needs to be rinsed well. You always end up siphoning some out when you chnage water. Maybe a tablespoon or so per 5 gal bucket. Every few years I add maybe a handful of new sand. It's not a big deal. The nice thing is nothing can get stuck in gaps like what happens with courser grained gravels. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
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Reel McKoi wrote: "Jeffrey St. Clair, Ph.D." wrote in message ... Are you referring to play type sand? No, not the play sand. It's too fine. Works ok for me: http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2000/Mar26/ I was afraid it would go anaerobic from fine mulm if I used just sand or a sand mix and didn't or couldn't vac it. I count on it being anaerobic at the bottom of 4-5" of sand. I put a half inch layer of manure under there plus some washers and steel wool. Under anaerobic conditions the iron is reduced to a state usable by plants. I've found roots just utterly tangled around washes like they were sucking the iron right of if like a life-saver (UK: polo mint). I also notife on crypt roots that the top 2-3" of root will be white while the bottom half will look like it has rust on it. Which is pretty much whats happening. I dunno if you folks have ever pulled plants in nature but aquatic substrates are frequently anaerobic. I've kept shrimp in these tanks long term, which meand no ammonia and no metal ions getting into the water column. Either even in the smallest amounts would kill shrimp in short order. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Reel McKoi wrote: "Jeffrey St. Clair, Ph.D." wrote in message ... Are you referring to play type sand? No, not the play sand. It's too fine. Works ok for me: http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2000/Mar26/ I was afraid it would go anaerobic from fine mulm if I used just sand or a sand mix and didn't or couldn't vac it. I count on it being anaerobic at the bottom of 4-5" of sand. I put a half inch layer of manure under there plus some washers and steel wool. Under anaerobic conditions the iron is reduced to a state usable by plants. I've found roots just utterly tangled around washes like they were sucking the iron right of if like a life-saver (UK: polo mint). I also notife on crypt roots that the top 2-3" of root will be white while the bottom half will look like it has rust on it. Which is pretty much whats happening. I dunno if you folks have ever pulled plants in nature but aquatic substrates are frequently anaerobic. I've kept shrimp in these tanks long term, which meand no ammonia and no metal ions getting into the water column. Either even in the smallest amounts would kill shrimp in short order. ========================================= I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... The nice thing is nothing can get stuck in gaps like what happens with courser grained gravels. ============================ At this time I'm using the finest gravel I could find and vac it on a regular basis. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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Reel McKoi wrote: I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image39x.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image19s.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2004/Oct/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/1999/Dec28/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image25.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...0/Image29a.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image31.jpg Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras" and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank. I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Reel McKoi wrote: I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image39x.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image19s.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2004/Oct/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/1999/Dec28/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image25.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...0/Image29a.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image31.jpg Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras" and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank. I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails. ============================= Beautiful plants. Is Aquanet your website? -- RM.... Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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Reel McKoi wrote: "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Reel McKoi wrote: I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image39x.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image19s.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2004/Oct/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/1999/Dec28/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image25.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...0/Image29a.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image31.jpg Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras" and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank. I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails. ============================= Beautiful plants. Is Aquanet your website? I'm not sure what "aquanet" is but aquaria.net is mine and has been since about 93 or so. It says that on the front page of http://aquaria.net -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
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On Oct 26, 3:39 pm, (Richard Sexton) wrote:
In article , Reel McKoi wrote: "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Reel McKoi wrote: I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image39x.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image19s.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2004/Oct/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/1999/Dec28/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image25.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...0/Image29a.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image31.jpg Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras" and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank. I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails. ============================= Beautiful plants. Is Aquanet your website? I'm not sure what "aquanet" is but aquaria.net is mine and has been since about 93 or so. It says that on the front page ofhttp://aquaria.net -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff:http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages:http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD |http://aquaria.nethttp://killi.net- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I've had mixed results with sand. If it's too fine in an unplanted tank, it can compact. Forgetting the name (what is "play" sand will vary store to store), avoid really fine sands and look for coarse. Malaysian Trumpet snails can be useful to churn sand. I've got a 120g with Profile brand sand. The plants love it but I find it's a little too light for my liking. I can live with the losses during vacuuming, but I'll need to reduce the water's turbulence, so it should work very well in many applications. I'm not keen on white sand as it shows debris too quickly and seems to foster more algae (more reflected light at the sand's surface?). I personally don't think that fish are very comfortable with too much light coming UP at them. Highlights their presence to airborn predators (try explaining to them there are no birds in your house ;~) NetMax |
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NetMax wrote: @ Richard: I'm not sure what "aquanet" is but aquaria.net is mine and has been since about 93 or so. It says that on the front page ofhttp://aquaria.net ;-) @ NM: I've had mixed results with sand. If it's too fine in an unplanted tank, it can compact. Well but compact sand won't be a prob for the most useful aquarium plants.. Forgetting the name (what is "play" sand will vary store to store) ACK.. , avoid really fine sands and look for coarse. ACK.. Tried out filter sand - pool supply..? Malaysian Trumpet snails can be useful to churn sand. Hm.., have had several cold water tanks with fine sand but no MTS (never had any probs).. The plants love it but I find it's a little too light for my liking. River sands weren't too bride.. I'm not keen on white sand as it shows debris too quickly Hm.., no prob for fine to coarse sand.. and seems to foster more algae (more reflected light at the sand's surface?). In the beginning - and until some floating plants might reduce this effect to an acceptable limit.. I personally don't think that fish are very comfortable with too much light coming UP at them. Highlights their presence to airborn predators Jein.. (try explaining to them there are no birds in your house ;~) NM, you're a real pet fish whisperer..! :-) -- cu Marco |
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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Reel McKoi wrote: "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Reel McKoi wrote: I don't think that would work too well in an aquariumn containing fish. What fish are in your aquariums? http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image39x.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...9/Image19s.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/2004/Oct/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/tk-1/1999/Dec28/ http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image25.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...0/Image29a.jpg http://images.aquaria.net/tanks/rjs/...10/Image31.jpg Over the years there have been "a few killifish", "a few dozen tetras" and at one point over 300 endlers. It's a 25 gallon tank. I had puffers in there once too to get rid of the snails. ============================= Beautiful plants. Is Aquanet your website? I'm not sure what "aquanet" is but aquaria.net is mine and has been since about 93 or so. It says that on the front page of http://aquaria.net ============= Sorry, that's the site I meant. I'm planning to spend some time there right now. :-) -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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"NetMax" wrote in message ups.com... I'm not keen on white sand as it shows debris too quickly and seems to foster more algae (more reflected light at the sand's surface?). I personally don't think that fish are very comfortable with too much light coming UP at them. Highlights their presence to airborn predators (try explaining to them there are no birds in your house ;~) ==================== Lowe's carries what's called a coarse builders sand which is a brown color. It's also called "all purpose" sand. The play sand here is so fine it's almost powdery. I would be afraid a child would inhale the power and damage it's lungs. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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"Tynk" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 28, 3:52?pm, "Reel McKoi" wrote: Lowe's carries what's called a coarse builders sand which is a brown color. It's also called "all purpose" sand. The play sand here is so fine it's almost powdery. I would be afraid a child would inhale the power and damage it's lungs. -- RM.... ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{( Me too. Having asthma, it would be something that affect me right away. It made me sneeze. I have to use it in my cactus potting mix when it's very calm outside. I then mix up a large batch of sandy soil for them and keep it damp to keep down the sand dust. I can't believe they sell this for children to play in. I remember as a kid playing in sand that was very dusty. Not a good combo. It always had to be wetted down with water, but some places had sand that was obviously better and had hardly any dust. The playgrounds where I grew up only had sand at the bottom of slides and under swings. We didn't play in it. Never thought to play in it. Niether of my kids liked to play in sand, so I wasn't about to push it. lol If they decide they want to... get the coarse builders sand. Less fines and dust. I think I'm going to use it when I set up the other 55g tank. I'll give it a try. I'll mix it with the fine brown gravel from Lowe's. I did buy some more fish and spent 9 hours acclimating them. I'll be diluting my tap water (liquid limestone rocks) with rain water from now on. I skipped the neon's though until I can get enough rain water to get the PH below 7.8 and the hardness lower. The Sherpae tetras and redtail rasboras adapted great. The clowns have learned to come to the top to eat so are doing fine. :-) -- RM.... .. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(๖ |
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I think the idea solution for a light coloured sand is availible from pool
supply shops as filter sand. good size and its clean. Bran |
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